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September 19th, 2014 | #1 |
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#1 Pets Mentality Thread
For years this poem was in my mind, but couldn't recall where/who. Then I came across it again reading some very old National Reviews. This to me is the mentality of too many pet owners. Not all, but too many.
Pets by John Nixon, Jr. The love they could not give to one another They ultimately forced on quadrupeds -- Poor captive creatures, longing for the wild But getting love and table scraps. In time, The dog became a charming thespian. If tail-wagging and licking hands did not Denote affection, then what could? Just listen To that adoring bark. Pure joy. But no Amount of condescending milk poured out In fractured saucers could persuade the cat To view the thing as more than what it was: Suave slavery. You cannot love your own, The velvet gait declares. I'll not love you. |
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Personally I've always had at least one pet, and I don't think we need to get into undermining animal lovers. I mean Hitler had his dog Blondie, Then there was Dr. Pierce and that magnificent Siamese cat. General Patton had his dog 'Willie'. Even Eva Braun had that cute little black dog. Yes there are the crazy cat ladies, which is unfortunate and obviously sad & bizarre, but pets can be a great joy and asset to many an altruistic human's life. This probably goes back to Cro Magnon or further.
When one visits Germany past or present one of the things that is quite evident is Germans tend to adore their pets, and display great respect for animals and nature. It's all part of being luftmenschen.
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My "porch cat" (as of yesterday my second house cat: I can't have the poor old one-fanged feller freezing again this winter) damn nearly "enslaved" ME....
Cats are incapable of the adoration of dogs, but that doesn't mean they're not affectionate in their own dignified way. Plus, there's no need to worry about a house cat eating the neighbor kid's face.
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Usually pets are substitute companions for people who lack the emotional fulfillment that comes from close relationships with other humans. In my life experiences it's been the biggest misfits and social outcasts who were the most obsessed with animals. The "animal lovers" I've known were the ones who had problems getting along with other humans. Our obsession with pets is a sign of modern decadence and people are wasting a huge amount of resources on creatures that exist just to entertain them and make them feel like something loves them. Their loneliness is an excuse to enslave some poor creature. Dogs and cats both usually run away if you leave the door open.
I saw this funny little video: I believe cats are smarter than dogs. They just do what they want whenever they want and they don't care what you think. I always found dogs kinda annoying because they are way too friendly, begging and whining, too eager to please like mindless slaves. And if they are not that way they are usually scary and dangerous. I've seen a lot of people with "tough" dogs who think that having a certain breed of "tough" dog makes them bad and tough. I used to want a guard dog to protect me but my husband just got an alarm system instead. Way better than a dog, which takes up time and money, and there is no guarantee that the dog will defend you in the case of a home invasion. Dogs are pretty much obsolete now except for a few minor exceptions. In many cases they are a public hazard - biting children, pooping all over public space (hygiene issue), barking loudly (disturbing the peace). Cats are useful because they kill pests but dogs are mostly useless.
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I don't even understand why some WNs think pet owners are the reason whites have a declining birth rate. It's not. Whites have a declining birthrate in most of Europe and America. It's not like there was a sudden surge in pet ownership that was responsible for that.
Sure a lot of people without children get pets to fill the void, but do you really think they put off having their own children because they say to themselves "I already have a cat/dog and don't need a family of my own" ? No, they probably get a pet to fill the void after already deciding not to have children. I'm guessing it's usually for lack of opportunity, financial reasons, immaturity, women choosing careers over families, and/or materialism. Also I saw a recent poll that said over 50% of Americans are single up from 37% in the '70s. So I'm sure that plays a bigger role in the declining birth rate than something trivial like pet ownership. |
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I have two dogs and one cat, Our dogs live outside unless the weather is extreme so no they will not run away. The pets do not replace my kids and do not mean as much to me. I would put any of them down if terminaly ill or run over but I would not do the same to my kids.
My wife and I both have to work so 3 kids are enough and demand a lot of time, if I did not have to work I would love more kids. I like dogs more because they are friendlier, they meet me as I pull up every day and seem to be happy to see me. The cat on the other hand could care less unless it wants something. Oh I almost forgot, we also have fish. Talk about useless! |
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I like to feed the beautiful koi down at the local chink joint: they have a gumball machine with capsules of fish food (canny slopes): as soon as the fish hear the handle crank, they come a-"running" like cowboys for the dinner bell.... "Three second memory" my ass.
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Always the excuse of people whose barking dogs bark continuously all day and all night: it's a "guard dog." These cretins get to where they don't even hear the continuous barking in their ear, they are so used to it. But it drives their intelligent neighbors insane. Such an indiscriminate barker is useless for warning its owner of danger, of course.
The other excuse is that the continuously barking dog warns criminals to stay away. If this is so, why not get an alarm system and blare the alarm continuously 24/7? (Oops, I don't want to give these morons any ideas.) Mencken, for one, was seriously disrupted by a continuously barking dog owned by his mentally retarded next door neighbor. It took all kinds of legal actions and personal appeals to get the retard to get rid of the beast. I would have done what I have done on a number of occasions in the past: resorted to shooting or poisoning the public nuisance. To be fair, sometimes the owner isn't aware that his dog barks literally all the time. Typically such a clueless owner works odd hours, and simply doesn't know that within 3 minutes of his leaving his home the dog begins frantically barking, howling, and beating its body on the door...and keeps this up for 8+ hours straight with breaks lasting only 20 seconds or so, until the moment when it hears its owner returning. The owner isn't aware that Bobo lives in hell all day, as do Bobo's unfortunate neighbors. Shooting would be kinder than putting the dog (and neighbors) through that. Long experience tells me that many dogs are extremely fucked up by their "loving" but stupid owners. But the owners don't really care about the dog for its own sake. I make no claim that my dispreference for enslaved animals is a philosophical principle. It's only my preference. Where I draw the line is when your Bobo makes it impossible for me to think or sleep by barking its guts out 24/7. When it's either Bobo or me, it's going to be me. What happens to Bobo is your call.
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You should get a kitten, Alex. I bet a kitten would melt even your cold heart. Have you ever had a pet?
I have a dog and a cat. A great, loyal family dog. A few years ago my husband left early one morning. About 5 minutes later I heard the door rattling like someone was coming in. I thought it was my husband coming back in because maybe he forgot something. All of a sudden, my dog started barking and doing that low growl that is a signal to me that something is definitely not right. I ran downstairs and went around to where the door was and my dog was waiting right there still low growling. I peeked out the peep hole, but nobody was there. I'm assuming it was someone trying to break in the house. I believe they didn't come in because of the dog. I feel a lot more safer with my dog than any so called safety a cop could provide. My cat, on the other hand, owns the dog. My dog is pretty big, but the cat loves to think he's bigger and badder. He'll go right up to the dog and whack at him while the dog is looking down at the car with a WTF look. Pets are so funny. |
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Most dogs don't bark all day, so your 'enslaved' thing would only apply to the few who are unhappy or neglected. Barking all day is a sign that something is wrong and the owner isn't taking care of it. It's the owners fault not the dogs fault. If the owner can't be around to take care of the dog, and doesn't have someone who can when he's gone, then he shouldn't have got it in the first place.
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I agree that there's a small % of people who think their pets are their actual babies, and they're deranged, but I think they're usually compensation for not having children (after the fact). I'm sure most of those people would actually rather have had children. Even so, it doesn't really cause anyone else problems and those types are so small in numbers it's barely even worth mentioning. Quote:
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Try living in a suburban area and you will take back that statement lol!
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Because people's decisions affect people other than themselves. We live in a society. The greater good for the society is more important than individual's feelings. Quote:
"He also talks about the importance of animal sacrifice and fertility to the druids. They “bring thither two white bulls, the horns of which are bound then for the first time. Clad in a white robe the priest ascends the tree, and cuts the mistletoe with a golden sickle, which is received by others in a white cloak. They then immolate the victims" while offering prayers, wrote Pliny the Elder." "As in Iron Age religion in general, an important part of Germanic paganism was animal sacrifice. Adam of Bremen stated that at the temple of Uppsala in Sweden:The sacrifice is like this: Of all the living beings that are male, nine head are offered; by whose blood it is the custom to appease the gods. Their bodies, however, are hung in a grove which is beside the temple. The grove is so sacred to the heathen that the individual trees in it are believed to be holy because of the death or putrefaction of the sacrifical victims. There, even dogs and horses dangle beside people, their bodies hanging jumbled together.[21] Among the Alemanni of the 6th century, animal sacrifice by means of decapitation seems to have played an important role; according to the testimony of Agathias of Myrina, writing in the context of the Gothic War (535–554), « They worship certain trees, the waters of rivers, hills and mountain valleys, in whose honour they sacrifice horses, cattle and countless other animals by beheading them, and imagine that they are performing an act of piety thereby. »" "The Roman Equus October ceremony involved:[3] the horse was dedicated to Mars, the Roman god of war the sacrifice took place on the Ides of October, but through ritual reuse was used in a spring festival (the Parilia) two-horse chariot races determined the victim, which was the right-hand horse of the winning team the horse is dismembered: the tail (cauda, possibly a euphemism for the penis) is taken to the Regia, the king's residence, while two factions battle for possession of the head as a talisman for the coming year" "The Norse ceremony according to the description in Hervarar saga of the Swedish inauguration of Blot-Sweyn, the last or next to last pagan Germanic king, c. 1080: the horse is dismembered for eating the blood is sprinkled on the sacred tree at Uppsala." http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/grlg/hd_grlg.htm http://www.livescience.com/45727-druids.html http://books.google.ca/books?id=Q_yO...age&q=&f=false http://books.google.ca/books?id=Lq70...page&q&f=false http://books.google.ca/books?id=GCcw...page&q&f=false http://books.google.ca/books?id=pRDq...page&q&f=false http://books.google.ca/books?id=yfZZ...age&q=&f=false I never said that it being ancient makes it a good thing. I said that it being an ancient practice of our Aryan ancestors is proof that loving animals isn't intrinsic to the Aryan soul like some WN try to say. Quote:
It isn't neuroticism, it actually does happen and it is a tragedy. No child deserves to get bitten by a dog. Did you know that dog bites are the second most common cause of emergency room visits for children? A child is far more likely to be bitten by a dog than to hurt themselves on the playground or get attacked by a nonwhite. Baby walkers are banned where I live, but they are far less dangerous than dogs. I personally know a woman whose little blond child was killed by a neighbour's dog. The life of that one child was worth more than the life of every dog on earth. We have to filter all things through the view of "what is best for children?" They are the future of our people, and we have to protect them when they are young and vulnerable. There are so few of them. When we are all dead and gone, they will be all that's left. "Nearly 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs each year, half of these are children.1 One in five dog bites results in injuries serious enough to require medical attention.1 Why be concerned about dog bites? About 4.5 million people are bitten by dogs each year.1 Almost one in five of those who are bitten, about 885,000, require medical attention for dog bite-related injuries; half of these are children.1 In 2012, more than 27,000 people underwent reconstructive surgery as a result of being bitten by dogs.2 Who is at risk? Children: Among children, the rate of dog bite–related injuries is highest for those ages 5 to 9 years, and children are more likely than adults to receive medical attention for dog bites.3 Adult Males: Male adults are more likely than female adults to be bitten.1 People with dogs in their homes: Among children and adults, having a dog in the household is associated with a higher incidence of dog bites. As the number of dogs in the home increases, so does the incidence of dog bites. Adults with two or more dogs in the household are five times more likely to be bitten than those living without dogs at home.1" http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/dog-bites/
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Boy, if you want to get rich these days, get into dog services. I live near such a place, it is chock full of activity. Even poor people pay ridiculous amounts of money (I guess) to board, groom, train, service their dogs. I get having a pet, that's ok. But these people treat these animals like they're kings. It's insane. I'm not talking rich people, I'm talking average and poor people.
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I don't get people's infatuation with dogs, generally. The one thing that has made me sure of never getting one is the fact that you have to pick up their shit. Both disgusting and humiliating. No way I am going to do that. I always cringe when I see people doing that out in the public.
I guess they're useful as guardians or whatever, though. Beyond that, I'd much rather have a cat. They're a whole lot more interesting to observe IMO. Plus they kill rats and other vermin. |
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