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Old July 1st, 2014 #1
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Is Star Trek anti-Semitic?


Gene Roddenberry's most famous creation; Star Trek, is one of the best known science fiction franchises that has ever existed and its rivalry with George Lucas' Star Wars is equally well-known with fans passionately debating the respective merits and demerits of each for hours on end.

What is perhaps less well-known is that Roddenberry's 'Star Trek' has faced a significant amount of criticism; particularly from the academic and political left, over the alleged 'racism' of the franchise (especially the original 'Star Trek' and 'Star Trek: The Next Generation'). (1) This lead to the freakily multi-racial spin-off series 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine', which predictably didn't satisfy Roddenberry's leftist critics in the slightest. (2)

They merely adopted a new line: one of the creations of 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine'; the Ferengi, was an anti-Semitic caricature of jews.(3)

To investigate this lets take one partisan of the 'anti-Semitic Ferengi' claim.

He says:

'So what, then, of the Ferengi? Why is this alien race different from all other alien races? Because the Trek creators have drawn them in such a way that they constantly evoke anti-Semitic images and archetypes. The Ferengi seem to be inviting us to engage in arrant racism about international Jewish banking conspiracies.

The Ferengi are the Trek universe's super-capitalists, traders who would sell their own family members for a few bars of gold-pressed latinum. The utter glee with which they pursue commerce would get them through a casting call forThe Merchant of Venice; they take it a step further with the "Rules of Acquisition." Two hundred and eighty-five in number, they include proverbs such as "Once you have your money... you never give it back" (#1), "Greed is eternal" (#10), and "Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money" (#189). As instructions for living, the Rules of Acquisition are supposed to be the Talmud of Ferengi society; unfortunately, they take on the taint of the famed forged document of Jewish goals, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

Perhaps some of these overtones are unavoidable when one is creating a mercantile race in a science-fiction show. But consider these parallels: The Ferengi have an oversized body part (the ears rather than the nose). The Ferengi are often schlemiels, haplessly disrupting treaty negotiations and knocking over containers in Enterprise cargo bays. They're short. Male Ferengi lust after human women, prisoners of their desire for shiksas. And the very Jewish character actor Wallace Shawn plays the recurring role of the Grand Nagus, leader of Ferengi society. However, nobody has yet uttered the line, "Is it good for the Ferengi or bad for the Ferengi?"' (4)

Really? Well if the Ferengi have been drawn them in 'a way that they constantly evoke anti-Semitic images and archetypes' then it should probably be a bit more obvious than just a bunch of greedy aliens who love money and wealth.

After all how can it be cogent to argue that a literary creation; albeit destined for television, is meant to be a negative caricature of some group or another without explicit (and only subjective circumstantial) evidence for it?

The problem is simple: there are a finite number of roles, images and archetypes that appeal to humans because they are within the range of human experience and therefore are comprehensible to the human audience who are to consume that media product. The most effective way to elucidate the appropriate disgust reaction for your audience is to give them a negative role, image and/or archetype that is in their cultural knowledge and moreover that they know well.

That effectively means you are always going to produce a role, image and/or archetype that resembles one or more groups: who hypersensitive; or simply overwrought, individuals and/or groups will claim is an deliberate 'attack' against them and/or is in some way 'offensive'.

The nub of the issue is that there is no actual evidence that Roddenberry was deliberately portraying jews in his stereotype of the Ferengi.

In fact you could equally argue that the Ferengi are actually the stereotypical capitalist/factory owner of European socialist propaganda in the mid-nineteenth century. Since they were asserted to be solely motivated for profit and to care nothing for anything else, to actively manipulate others to get more money and utilize working class women and/or their employees as sexual slaves. (5)

The author for example claims that the 'Rules of Acquisition' are meant as a kind of Talmud as understood by anti-Semites and then claims they are a 'Protocols of Zion' (which he ignorantly claims is a 'forged document') type scenario.

Both of these are untrue as the image of Talmud in anti-Semitic propaganda was; and is, not focused on the 'earning of money', but rather on the statements and rulings regarding non-jews that are in; and derive from, it (reading Pranitis' 'The Talmud Unmasked' would have given the author concerned a bit more of a clue), while the 'Protocols of Zion' is itself arguable. It is still focusing on one aspect of the 'Protocols' text (and only the Nilus version of it I might add) to the active exclusion of most of the rest (which focuses on the subversion of gentile society and treats the economic war as only part; not the whole, of the equation).

As to the desire to subjugate 'foreign women': that is as old of the hills and hardly is an exclusive jewish phenomenon relating to the (highly offensive) concept of the shiksa (which I note the author strangely doesn't condemn).

No: Star Trek isn't 'anti-Semitic'.

After all it has had episodes promoting the 'holocaust' (6), has been interpreted as honoured Judaism and jewish culture by at least two jews I can find (7) as well as a jewish/satanic plot by opponents of jews. (8)

Clearly it is very much a case of 'in the eye of the beholder'.

So how on earth can be Star Trek be anti-Semitic when it is merely a subjective opinion; with no concrete evidence, on the part of each individual?

It can't.


References


(1) http://thedogtagchronicles.com/2012/...-of-star-trek/
(2) http://donaldearlcollins.com/2011/01...s-are-latino/; http://www.kinema.uwaterloo.ca/artic...id=126&feature
(3) Ibid.
(4) http://www.stim.com/Stim-x/0996Septe...s/ferengi.html
(5) Tristram Hunt, 2009, 'Marx's General: The Revolutionary Life of Friedrich Engels', 1st Edition, Henry Holt: New York, pp. 94-96
(6) http://books.google.com/books?id=O9l...20trek&f=false
(7) http://www.myjewishlearning.com/hot_...ar_Trek.shtml;
Jewish Themes in Star Trek: Rabbi Yonassan Gershom: 9780557048007: Amazon.com: Books Jewish Themes in Star Trek: Rabbi Yonassan Gershom: 9780557048007: Amazon.com: Books
(8) http://ehpg.wordpress.com/2009/05/29...-of-star-trek/

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This was originally published at the following address: http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot...i-semitic.html
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Old July 2nd, 2014 #2
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They merely adopted a new line: one of the creations of 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine'; the Ferengi, was an anti-Semitic caricature of jews.
The Ferengi were created for Star Trek the Next Generation. Deep Space Nine gave them a much larger role. Because Roddenberry became more and more socialist as he got older they were originally anti-capitalist stereotypes and intended to be evil antagonists to the liberal Federation, replacing the Klingons as big bads. In Deep Space Nine, produced after Roddenberry passed away, they made them more humorous and gave them some redeeming qualities.
 
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Loved that show when I was a little kid. Don't remember anything remotely "racist", but it might have got past me at that age.
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I can see some of the writing being not-left-enough for them. I bet they didn't like the episode where the space-hippy cult with the garfunkely guitarist commandeers the enterprise to get to their utopian Eden planet, then die from eating the fruit there.

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The Ferengi controversy aside, Star Trek was anything but anti-Semitic. Gene Roddenberry was a socialist/globalist and possibly part-jewish on his mother's side, as Karl discussed in a different thread. William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and Walter Koenig are jews as well as producer Herb Solow and many of the writers. The United Federation of Planets was nothing but a futuristic version of the jew-inspired UN. Hitler was mentioned in the original series a number of times (all negatively of course), such as 'City on the Edge of Forever' where Kirk and Spock back on 1930s Earth view the alternate future of the Third Reich "capturing the world". The character of Khan Noonien Singh from 'Space Seed' and Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan with his genetically-engineered 'supermen' were obviously an analogy to Hitler and Aryan supermen. And there was 'Patterns of Force', where an Earth historian introduced a "Nazi" culture to an alien planet called Ekos and became its Fuehrer. Naturally, the Ekosian Nazis persecuted and planned to genocide the neighboring planet Zeon (Zion) in a thinly-veiled reference to the Holocaust (TM) (K).
 
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Funny you should mention that 'Way to Eden' episode, Nate. Skip Homeier, who played the space hippies' leader, Dr. Sevrin, also played Deputy Fuehrer Melakon in 'Patterns of Force'. He also played a Hitler Youth member in a 1944 film called 'This Time The World'.
 
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The Ferengi controversy aside, Star Trek was anything but anti-Semitic. Gene Roddenberry was a socialist/globalist and possibly part-jewish on his mother's side, as Karl discussed in a different thread. William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and Walter Koenig are jews as well as producer Herb Solow and many of the writers. The United Federation of Planets was nothing but a futuristic version of the jew-inspired UN. Hitler was mentioned in the original series a number of times (all negatively of course), such as 'City on the Edge of Forever' where Kirk and Spock back on 1930s Earth view the alternate future of the Third Reich "capturing the world". The character of Khan Noonien Singh from 'Space Seed' and Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan with his genetically-engineered 'supermen' were obviously an analogy to Hitler and Aryan supermen. And there was 'Patterns of Force', where an Earth historian introduced a "Nazi" culture to an alien planet called Ekos and became its Fuehrer. Naturally, the Ekosian Nazis persecuted and planned to genocide the neighboring planet Zeon (Zion) in a thinly-veiled reference to the Holocaust (TM) (K).
Watched Star Trek religiously as a kid.

Shatner's over-acting, which now seems hilarious, was riveting back then. James T. Kirk was a badass, man. Dude dropped more galactic panties than a Down's Syndrome worker at Victoria's Secret.

Remember the episode with the aliens that were half white and half black? How blatant can you get?
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The Ferengi controversy aside, Star Trek was anything but anti-Semitic. Gene Roddenberry was a socialist/globalist and possibly part-jewish on his mother's side, as Karl discussed in a different thread. William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and Walter Koenig are jews as well as producer Herb Solow and many of the writers. The United Federation of Planets was nothing but a futuristic version of the jew-inspired UN.
The original show also had the first interacial kiss on American television between Kirk and Uhura, a multiracial crew including Japanese navigator Sulu, at least one magical negro scientist and every other liberal trope you could get away with at the time.

The politically correct attacks on a naive liberal like Roddenberry just go to show that the basic principle is hate for all Whites, even the most docile, brainwashed nigger lovers.

Behind the scenes most of the creative talent came from gentiles, and from Roddenberry himself who held the technical staff to very high standards. To see what a comparable Jew produced show made around the same time looked like watch Lost in Space. You can't miss the difference in quality.
 
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The original show also had the first interacial kiss on American television between Kirk and Uhura, a multiracial crew including Japanese navigator Sulu, at least one magical negro scientist and every other liberal trope you could get away with at the time.

The politically correct attacks on a naive liberal like Roddenberry just go to show that the basic principle is hate for all Whites, even the most docile, brainwashed nigger lovers.

Behind the scenes most of the creative talent came from gentiles, and from Roddenberry himself who held the technical staff to very high standards. To see what a comparable Jew produced show made around the same time looked like watch Lost in Space. You can't miss the difference in quality.
I watched both of these shows as a child, both in syndication as reruns. I liked them both then, but the difference in the quality of the two was obvious to me even as a ten year old.

Today I consider these franchises nothing more than mid-grade level entertainment for when I have nothing else to do. I would never pay to see them or go out of my way to do so.
 
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The jews are taunting us with movies like the Matrix and They Live.
They are obvious hints about how they are controlling us.
It's the evil twisted Tay Sachs jew mind at work.
Like serial killers sending cryptic messages to the cops bragging about their latest exploits.
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I watched both of these shows as a child, both in syndication as reruns. I liked them both then, but the difference in the quality of the two was obvious to me even as a ten year old.

Today I consider these franchises nothing more than mid-grade level entertainment for when I have nothing else to do. I would never pay to see them or go out of my way to do so.
Same for me, I watched both shows as a kid (and still do today ) and even then I understood Star Trek was the "serious" show and Lost In Space was the "funny" show. But I liked Spock's "Most illogical" and McCoy's "I'm a doctor, not a (whatever)" as much as the Robot's "Danger, danger, Will Robinson!" and Dr. Smith's "Silence, you bubble-headed booby!"
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The Ferengi were created for Star Trek the Next Generation. Deep Space Nine gave them a much larger role. Because Roddenberry became more and more socialist as he got older they were originally anti-capitalist stereotypes and intended to be evil antagonists to the liberal Federation, replacing the Klingons as big bads. In Deep Space Nine, produced after Roddenberry passed away, they made them more humorous and gave them some redeeming qualities.
I stand corrected. I only remembered them from DS9.
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I never watched any of the newer Star Trek shows, but my brother did.
One day he was laughing about the "space jews" in one of the new shows.
I said what do you mean? He said I swear, they modeled these characters (ferengis) after jews, you'd have to watch the show to see what I mean.
Eventually I did watch one of the shows with them in it.

Lying, conniving, underhanded, manipulating, hideous looking little fucks.
Space jews indeed.
One of them was even trying to make a play on a space shiksa.

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I watched some "Next Generation" episodes when I was a kid but never got into the later spinoffs.

People keep mentioning "Ferengi", and I vaguely remember them from Next Generation, but I went to read a little more. I guess they play a bigger role in the shows that came after Next Generation. Scanning back over the thread I see that Sam Emerson mentions that.

Anyway, the Ferengi evidently have a sort of Talmud. Mostly business-related, but it's a funny read.

Ferengi "Rules of Acquisition": http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition


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Once you have their money, you never give it back.
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Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.
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A contract is a contract is a contract ... but only between Ferengi.
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The author for example claims that the 'Rules of Acquisition' are meant as a kind of Talmud as understood by anti-Semites
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'So what, then, of the Ferengi? Why is this alien race different from all other alien races? Because the Trek creators have drawn them in such a way that they constantly evoke anti-Semitic images and archetypes. The Ferengi seem to be inviting us to engage in arrant racism about international Jewish banking conspiracies.




 
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When you are a paranoid Jew, everything is anti-semitic !
 
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If anything, it's pro-semitic.
 
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When you are a paranoid Jew, everything is anti-semitic !
Everything is Antisemitism to them. There are instances they even commit fake hate crimes against themselves. They have a victim mentality.
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Leonard Nimoy doing the Vulcan "Live Long and Prosper" salute...



...which he got from the blessing gesture performed by rabbis in synagogues.

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