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Old July 12th, 2014 #21
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Haven't gone over the thread with a fine-toothed comb, but I spotted that "Adolf hitler is our savior" song right off the bat. It's from anti-german propaganda film
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Vance, is that image from a Chick Publications comic? Sure looks like it.

Come on, guys. We can get anti-white stuff anywhere.

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“Thou shalt love God in all living things, animals and plants.”
And plants? I think Rosenberg wasn't a bad sort, but he was a bit of a hippy.

Can't see the old Nazi party being particularly pro or anti Christianity or "god", either way. "Deist" is probably accurate enough, as suggest by the first couple of posts. Seems they did their best when avoiding religion, not suppressing or promoting.
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Vance, is that image from a Chick Publications comic? Sure looks like it.

Come on, guys. We can get anti-white stuff anywhere.
But it's funny!

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And plants? I think Rosenberg wasn't a bad sort, but he was a bit of a hippy.
I don't understand why some people are pro-animal and not pro-plant. Plants work tirelessly to produce food for us, they're true heroes. We should build a statue dedicated to plants.
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Old July 12th, 2014 #23
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But it's funny!
Yeah they are that, and I used to enjoy finding them when I was a little kid, just for the sheer weirdness. Some of them were like little nightmares, really not bad. Better than X-men and all that shit.

I like plants ok, don't have anything against them, but you better be a very old and large tree or I'm not going to feel anything like reverence for you, much less love. The Rosenberg quote kinda reminded me of this thread http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=168476
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Old July 12th, 2014 #24
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Haven't gone over the thread with a fine-toothed comb, but I spotted that "Adolf hitler is our savior" song right off the bat. It's from anti-german propaganda film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelude_to_War


Vance, is that image from a Chick Publications comic? Sure looks like it.

Come on, guys. We can get anti-white stuff anywhere.


And plants? I think Rosenberg wasn't a bad sort, but he was a bit of a hippy.

Can't see the old Nazi party being particularly pro or anti Christianity or "god", either way. "Deist" is probably accurate enough, as suggest by the first couple of posts. Seems they did their best when avoiding religion, not suppressing or promoting.


The film involves American actors? The sneaky sods. Thanks for that. I'll give it the chop pronto. I knew the film was used as propaganda against National Socialism. But didn't realise it was an Hollywood production. I found it yesterday while googling for videos. It had me fooled.
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Old July 13th, 2014 #25
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Atheist and Darwinist Christopher Hitchens gets all butt hurt after being branded a fascist. I don't recall Hitler stating in Mein Kampf that he was doing God's work, and following God's will, in destroying the Jewish people? This is what Hitler said:

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The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.

If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.

Eternal Nature inexorably avenges the infringement of her commands.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Mein Kampf page 60
Hitchens states correctly that the NS regime was not atheistic. It wasn't. But it wasn't Christian either.



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GOD AND FOLK – SOLDIERLY AFFIRMATION is translated from the Third Reich original Gott und Volk - Soldatisches Bekenntnis, which was published by the Theodor Fritsch Verlag in Berlin. The author describes himself as a youth of the Weimar Republic generation, soldier and National Socialist activist. But his name is not provided. Christianity is rejected. Service to the God-given folk is proclaimed true meaning of life and ultimate religious act. Fulfillment of duty replaces salvation and heaven. And honor outweighs love. The chapter titles are: Our Path, Decision, Revolution of the Soul, God, Germany, Life, Death, Duty, Honor, Love, Hate, Guilt, Our Task. Softcover. 72pp.
http://www.third-reich-books.com/horst-wessel.htm



This is the belt buckle Hitchens talked about in the clip.
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Old July 14th, 2014 #26
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The realization that National-Socialism includes a spiritual, religious dimension, in which Adolf Hitler plays a central role, goes back to the very earliest days of the NS movement.

Some have referred to this belief as the "Hitler Faith."

Here, on my SF blog "Do Right and Fear No One!", is an account of that faith that traces its history from its origin through the early 2000's:
THE HITLER FAITH: Its First 100 Years http://www.stormfront.org/forum/blogs/u224711-e3246
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Old July 14th, 2014 #27
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Background: This is a pamphlet outlining Nazi racial theories. It seems to have been intended primarily for members of the SS, though the copy I am working from carries the stamp of a school library. The book also suggests a plan for covering the content of the booklet in eleven class periods, indicating it was intended for use in the schools.

The source: Der Reichsführer SS/SS-Hauptamt, Rassenpolitik (Berlin, 1943 [?]).

Chapter 1: Racial Thinking

“I speak prophetically. Just as the discovery that the earth moved around the sun led to a complete transformation of the way people looked at the world, so too the blood and racial teachings of National Socialism will change our understanding of mankind’s past and its future.”

(The Führer before the Reichstag on 30 January 1937)





The 15th and 16th centuries during the Middle Ages were a period when the Nordic spirit found characteristic expression in the Copernicus’s teaching that the earth revolved around the sun. The earth, which formerly was thought to be the center of the universe, became a small planet that was just as subject to the harmony of eternal laws as the course of the stars. The former world of appearances collapsed, and the Nordic spirit opened the door to a new scientific worldview. As a result of his revolutionary discovery, the worldview the Medieval Church had so successfully built to control people’s minds gradually fell apart over the following centuries. Today’s scientifically-based worldview freed us from the spiritual domination of the priesthood. We owe to it our great advances in technology, the sciences, and economics.



Today we are in the middle of another revolutionary epoch. Revolutionary scientific understandings of genetics and race have found political expression in the National Socialist worldview. Once again a world of appearances collapsed, which had concealed from our eyes the true nature of humanity and the connections between body, soul, and spirit.

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The foundation of the Christian worldview is the doctrine of the separation of body and soul; the soul and spirit belong to a world independent of the physical, free of natural laws, and they are even to a certain degree able to free the human body from its natural setting. It is a major shift when racial theory recognizes the unity of body, soul and spirit and sees them as a whole that follows the eternal laws of nature.
A new epoch is coming, one perhaps even more revolutionary than that resulting from Copernicus’s work. Ideas about humanity and peoples that have endured for millennia are collapsing. The Nordic spirit is struggling to free itself from the chains that the Church and the Jews have imposed on Germandom. And it is not only a spiritual battle, for it finds expression in National Socialism’s struggle for power, as well as in the today’s battlefields to the east and west. The coming victory will bring a fundamental change in our view of the world, and opens the way for Nordic mankind to a new and greater future.

“The human soul does not exist independent of the body, as the Church teaches. Body and soul are an inseparable unity. The living body is the manifestation of the soul.”









"There were once prophets who preached a separation between body, soul and spirit.

One cannot separate these three things. If you remove the body, nothing is left of the soul and spirit. If you remove the soul, you have a lifeless, cold being, and if you remove the spirit, you are left with a tragic idiot. These three things belong together."


Fate — I believe!

by Robert Ley




I believe 'spirit' relates to divinity that exists in all living things which everything is a part of, and 'soul' to individual consciousness. Body and soul are an inseparable unity according to the NS doctrine.
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Old July 16th, 2014 #28
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I understand why some people--even some National-Socialists--respond with skepticism, eye-rolling and face-palming when they first encounter the idea of NS as a religion.

It just seems too over-the-top.

I know, because that was my initial response when I first learned of it. It was shocking, jarring--but also a little intriguing.

Once I was able to get over my initial surprise, however, and subject the idea to rational scrutiny, I was able to ask myself:

Which is a better alternative for the White Man:
  1. A Semitic (or neo-Semitic) faith based on the religious fantasies of ancient Jewish theologians, in which invisible and imaginary forces determine the meaning of human existence; or
  2. An Aryan faith based on racial realism and respect for the Natural Order?
When you cast the question in this manner, then suddenly the notion of National-Socialism as a religion appears does very appealing, after all!
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Old July 16th, 2014 #29
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Top far right the word ‘Gottlglaubig’ is clearly printed alongside the groom's name. 'Catholic' alongside the bride's

"Also the document pictured is the only reference I can recall I have in the file which contains the reference to the man's ‘Gottlglaubig’ beliefs. As you can see the Groom is Gottglaubig and the Bride is Catholic, so we have a non-Christian marrying a Christian. Not unusual but the only document I have which shows his religion.

To my understanding Gottglaubig is completely non-Christian. A source for an explanation as to the belief from the period comes from Martin Bormann." Quote(2):

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“When we National Socialists speak of a belief in God, by God we do not understand, as do naive Christians and their clerical beneficiaries, a manlike being who is sitting around in some corner of the spheres. Rather, we must open the eyes of mankind to the fact that in addition to our unimportant Earth there exist countless other bodies in the universe, many of them surrounded, like the sun, by planets and these again by smaller bodies, the moons. The force which moves all these bodies in the universe, in accordance with natural law, is what we call the Almighty or God. The assertion that this world-force can worry about the fate of every individual, every bacillus on earth, and that it can be influenced by so-called prayer or other astonishing things, is based either on a suitable dose of naivete or on outright commercial effrontery.



In contrast, we National Socialists call upon ourselves to live as naturally as possible — that is, in keeping with the laws of life. The more thoroughly we know and attend to the laws of nature and life, the more we adhere to them, the more do we correspond to the will of the Almighty. The deeper our insight into the will of the Almighty, the greater will be our success”.
Martin Bormann was not an atheist. He was Gottglaubig.


http://www.ns-kunst.com/ss-hochzeitsteller-603-2



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Armin Bauer was born 13-10-1919 in Neundorf.
In 1937, when he was around 18 years old his mother died.
He was in the Hitler Jugend where he got the HJ Ehrenzeichen.

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Armin´s religion was written down as Gottglaubig, you don´t see that often.
I quote from Der erste zug: "Gottglaubig was the term Nazis used for people
who believed in God but rejected the regular organized churches. It was the
"politically correct" religion, especially if one had aspirations"
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http://www.admiraalbelastingadvies.n...min-bauer.html



UNDER THE SS SHADOW is a true story of a Hitler Youth, an SS major's son,who runs for his life in war-torn Europe. He sees his father shot down by guerrillas, rebuilds his life from the ruins, leaves Hitler's SS emblem for another symbol.

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"In an official declaration, my father stated that he and his family had left the state church. We were Gottglaubig. The SS symbol became the point of reference for our family."
Apparently, Traugott Vogel converted to Gottglaubig, and then back to Christianity after the war.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...-the-ss-shadow

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According to Evans, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, with 3.5% 'Deist' (gottgläubig) and 1.5% atheist - most in these latter categories being "convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[24] Gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", had a non-denominational, nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[25] Despite all the promotion for positive Christianity and the gottgläubig movement, the majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Mainline Protestant Christians.[26]
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Old July 17th, 2014 #30
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I understand why some people--even some National-Socialists--respond with skepticism, eye-rolling and face-palming when they first encounter the idea of NS as a religion.

It just seems too over-the-top.

I know, because that was my initial response when I first learned of it. It was shocking, jarring--but also a little intriguing.
I was a deist long before I knew what deism was. My first reading of Mein Kampf engaged my intuition but it wasn't until I stumbled upon David Myatt's works, and Alfred Rosenberg's 'Myth of the Twentieth Century', that I finally realised the full spiritual dimension of National Socialism. So for me, the conversion was relatively quick and painless. I was half way there already.

I have always believed in evolution because the evidence for it is overwhelming. It is a scientific fact. But I have always believed that every living thing must contain some kind of 'soul' or spirit because everything in existence is energy, and nothing in nature can be annihilated out of existence. Studying David Myatt's material filled in the gaps for me regarding the nature of 'god'.

We have a spiritual nuclear bomb on our side. The NS blood religion has the potential to be an Aryan version of Islam. Religion and politics is such a potent combination. If only....

Just 3.5% of Germans registered as deists during Hitler's revolution. This I find surprising considering the totalitarian nature of the regime. The National Socialists clearly had problems in converting Christian Germans en masse to the religion of blood and race. No wonder Hitler never publicly renounced his 'Catholic faith' other than in private to his inner circle.

Mark Weber concludes his lecture with the admission that Hitler was a deist.

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While he was critical of Christianity, Hitler was no atheist. "The religion of Hitlerism was thus essentially a kind of deism," concludes Birken. Like Thomas Jefferson and other prominent early American leaders, Hitler equated God with "the dominion of natural laws throughout the whole universe." Thus, "for Hitler, national socialism was natural socialism."

Institute for Historical Review - Mark Weber
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Old July 18th, 2014 #31
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"It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave,
and the world will know that I was right."



Adolf Hitler



Religion

Life comes from God and returns to God. All life and all races follow God’s ordinances. No people and no race can ignore them. We want the German youth to again recognize the religious nature of life. They must realize that God wants the individual as well as the whole people, and that they lose contact with life when they lose contact with God! God and nation are the two foundations of the life of the individual and the community. We want no shallow and superficial piety, but rather a deep faith that God guides the world, that he controls it, and a consciousness of the relationship between God and each individual, and between God and the live of the people and the fatherland. The National Socialist state will promote such a deeply religious educational system. We want parents to support and strengthen this by honesty and by good example.

Race, military training, leadership, religion! These are the four unshakable foundations of the new German National Socialist education!

Unmistakably Gottglaubig.

The source: “Die Erziehungsgrundsätze des neuen Deutschlands,” Frauen-Warte, #22 (1936/37), pp. 692-693.

The Educational Principles of the New Germany:

What Schools and Parents Need to Know About the Goals of National Socialist Education
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What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8



The Oath of Loyalty to Adolf Hitler

"I swear by God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath."



The Religion of National Socialism



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Furthermore, National-Socialism is natural, pantheistic and pagan religion which expresses fundamental spiritual truths in a beautiful, profound and unaffected way. In contrast to the majority of other major religions which exist today, and which are all of Occidental or Eastern origin, the religion of National-Socialism is not a religion of priests, ritual, and obedience to the words of some revealed book, as it does not have, nor need, Churches and Temples. Neither does National-Socialism teach the renunciation of the physical world. Instead, National-Socialism seeks to change the physical world and make it a more spiritual, a more noble, place, believing as it does that this is the better way to develop better individuals. Thus National-Socialism is a positive, life-enhancing religion which expresses the conscious understanding, or wisdom, that we as a species have achieved through thousands of years of civilization. It makes us aware of what is numinous, or sacred, in a practical way consistent with our capacity to think - to behave and live in a civilized, higher, way.
The author now claims he is no longer a National Socialist. However, his writings on National Socialism are without equal in modern times, and is considered, quite rightly,
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The Final Political Testament of Adolf Hitler. Intriguing comment made about his spirit after 8 mins.
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Did Ernst Haeckel's 'materialistic pantheism' influence the ideology of National Socialism?

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Hitler understood his God as that will which is evident and implicit in the laws of Nature. This essential pantheism was concentrated in Hitler's numerous reiterations upon the Darwinistic theories of natural selection and the survival of the fittest in the eternal struggle of life. The divinity he claimed to obey was not the Biblical but the natural. In one of many of his specific speeches he states that "Our humility is the unconditional submission before Divine laws of existence as they are known to us ... Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural, therefore God -willed. Our commandment is the courageous fulfillment of the duties arising from those laws.
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The movement steadfastly refuses to take up any stand in regard to those problems which are either outside of its sphere of political work or seem to have no fundamental importance for us. It does not aim at bringing about a religious reformation, but rather a political reorganization of our people. It looks upon the two religious denominations as equally valuable mainstays for the existence of our people, and therefore it makes war on all those parties which would degrade this foundation, on which the religious and moral stability of our people is based, to an instrument in the service of party interests.
From Mein Kampf,number 10,chapter 12,tittle: The First Stage In The Development Of The German National Socialist Labour Party

English translate: http://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf

When I had read Mein Kampf first time I watched means without players from background,so later I have seen interpretation NS from Martin Bormann in short text named "relationship between NS and Christianity" I have concluded that it has deistic prism.

Can somebody tell me something about relationship on route Crowley-Eckart-Hitler? Did someone read book "Medusas head" by John Symonos? A long time I am looking for this book,have someone link for this book? I have read that is on this book talks between Crowley and Hitler and also read that Eckart was Crowley student and that Crowley have called on Hitler 50. bithday. Was on NS finally philosophy impacted such occult players and impacted on Hitlers thinking? In Mein Kampf I can't find any kind of indication NS religion,just political party but after Mein Kampf I can see indication NS as religion ,because someone changed Hitlers opinion?

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The two universes in which we live:
Spirit (unorganised) and Matter (organised).



"In his work entitled, Earth in the Beginning, Eric Skousen teaches us some very important things about our universe. He speaks of not one, but two universes. The organized universe, and the unorganized universe. The organized universe is located inside the unorganized universe. The picture below, taken from his book, will help illustrate this point."



Article by a Mormon no less!

From a spiritual perspective
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Nevertheless, an NDE can make a convert of a skeptic. Dr. Eben Alexander is a well-known case of an agnostic scientist who became convinced of the existence of the spiritual.

Alexander, a neurosurgeon, according to his autobiography, has described his experience in the same terms as the Belgian researchers: "hyper-reality," "too real to be real."

He has come to the conclusion that people are reincarnated.

'Afterlife' feels 'even more real than real,' researcher says
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Physicists have long been embarrassed by the fact that most of the universe is made up of so-called dark matter - matter that we cannot see but has a gravitationally-evident presence. Many candidates for the nature of this matter have been proposed, and one serious contender could involve the universe having a mirror image of itself.

Mirror Matter - the Invisible Universe
Picture: An air bubble inside a raindrop

Our universe is inside a larger multidimensional universe.

God is the life-force which is present in Nature

Imagine the air bubble inside the raindrop (above) is our physical universe with all its space and time dimensions. Outside the air bubble (the raindrop itself) is the 'unorganised' universe (acausal), where spirit is said to originate from, and return to, during the life and death cycle of every living creature. In reality, the unorganised universe itself is merged with the physical universe (causal) as its mirror image, and is multidimensional beyond time and space, and therefore impossible for scientists to directly observe and study. Let alone speculate that it even exists to begin with! 'God' resides in the unorganised universe as pure spirit, and all life existing in Nature is connected to the unorganised universe via their spirit.

God's very existence depends on the complexity, or order, of organic life in Nature and throughout the Cosmos itself. That all organic life is subject to the competing, destructive and evolutionary, forces of order and chaos, and that the universe itself exists as two distinct, and connected, parts, as a whole. One visible and tangible, the other invisible and beyond our physical senses. One matter, the other spirit. One organised, the other unorganised. One causal, the other acausal. Both co-existing in a symbiotic relationship to each other.



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In this materialistic age, dualists are often accused of smuggling outmoded religious beliefs back into science, of introducing superfluous spiritual forces into biology, and of venerating an invisible "ghost in the machine." However, our utter ignorance concerning the real origins of human consciousness marks such criticism more a matter of taste than of logical thinking. At this stage of mind science, dualism is not irrational, merely somewhat unfashionable. –Physicist Nick Herbert, Elemental Mind.

He almost works it out at 20 seconds!! Example two of 'String Theory' could very well be the 'unorganised universe' itself.

It took four-Billion years for the eternal creator to evolve from primordial chaos.


Order, Evolution and Eternity

All higher lifeforms in Nature are evolving and competing against each other to become 'God' and achieve 'immortality' with the eternal creator. Souls that exist as lower lifeforms also have an opportunity to climb the evolutionary ladder until they themselves achieve immortality with the eternal creator. Because we ourselves once started out life as primitive lifeforms in the primordial soup, and we can return there again. This is not some form of abstract morality, or fear mongering, designed for a political purpose. It is a simple wisdom. Hell does not exist. But what does exist is primordial chaos - a cosmic living Hell, where life is starting to evolve from primitive lifeforms, or where life on a planet is slowly baked to a crisp by its dying star.

If all higher lifeforms ceased to exist in the universe, God would lose all consciousness until all life evolved back to where it was before chaos took hold. All life, from the micro to the macro, is in a state of eternal flux. There is no escaping from it. All life starts from primordial chaos, and eventually comes to an end when a star dies. In between these two extremes, we have a limited time to escape from our solar system in order to colonise space; to create order from chaos by 'seeding' new life among the stars and planets of the universe. If we fail to conquer space, then primordial chaos is all we have got to look forward to for another four-Billion years of evolution - unless there is advanced life elsewhere in the universe, then our souls might continue their evolutionary journey there.



The Soul and Immortality

There is no death, only change. The universe is eternal despite what materialistic science would like you to believe. Science does not recognise the existence of spirit, or the unorganised universe where it is derived from. But spirit exists, and I hope this article (and links) has convinced you that there is more to life than just birth and death, and that our ultimate God-given destiny of 'immortality' is within our grasp. Because, like it or not, the white race is the pinnacle of human evolution. We are the eternal creator's chosen people. We have earned that right by virtue of evolution. However, we cannot rest on our laurels.

It is our spiritual duty as individuals to fight against chaos and live in an evolutionary way by avoiding what is harmful to ourselves, both physically and spiritually. We should seek to improve ourselves by striving for excellence at all times, and by selflessly putting the well-being of the common good before any self-interest. By marrying among our own kind only, and by nurturing as many genetically healthy children as possible. Only then can we further evolve as a species. Only then can we avoid the fate of primordial chaos. Only then can we finally break free from the endless cycle of life and death and become 'immortal' with the eternal creator for however long that may be. All life is in a state of flux, and 'immortality' itself is subject to the forces of order and chaos.

No Higher Lifeforms = No God!

The eternal creator is constantly evolving consciousness and self-awareness. Its soul is our soul. God's consciousness is multidimensional and transcends both time and space. But only lifeforms that have evolved to the highest biological and spiritual state can achieve 'immortality' and become one with the eternal creator. God is within our blood and race. Our blood is holy.
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National Socialism doesn't have to be a religion. It can suffice as a political movement that sets the example for the moral fabric of society, and illustrates how the government as well as the economy should function. As well as how they'll be beneficial to the Nation's founding racial/ethnic group. It isn't even required to use the name "National Socialist" to define the said political party. It can have different names depending on the nation, but regardless of the name it will represent National Socialist values.

Religions that are contrary to the core values of National Socialism SHOULD be stamped out. Obvious candidates are the 3 Semite religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam, as well as other religions that are of non-White origin. I don't have a problem with Norse Paganism, Heathenism, Creators, Asatru, and a few others.
 
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I see a religious conversion analogy in the need for acceptance and repentance on the parts of us whose immediate ancestors wrongfully fought against our best genetic interests by destroying Germany and the better elements of Europe on behalf of our biological enemy, the jew.

It's a conundrum for us that in order to embrace our race as a whole we have to accept the culpability of our immediate ancestors and their baby boomer toadies. In my case I try to deal with it by focusing on correcting their errors more than by condemning them. I treat it as a matter of acceptance of my racial responsibility to them. This is, however, made more difficult by the fact that many of them are still alive, and arrogantly refuse to acknowledge the mistakes.
 
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National Socialism is a political solution to the deadly threat of extinction posed to the Aryan Race . Religion is a theology, granted many so called "religions" have ceased to be a religion and become political entities.

The life long Nazi and greatest jurist of the 20th century Carl Schmitt defined it as " When a religion defines enemies or "not friends but others" then it ceases to be a religion and becomes "political".

While on the subject those pretentious posters here who think that complicating something makes it "authentic" would do well to study the works of Carl Schmitt.

Schmitt is certainly the most studied Nazi in current ruling circles. From the war on terror to the political soldier Schmitt had a handle on all of these issues sixty years ago. Schmitt of course he has never been mentioned here or at stormfront or anywhere else where we proclaim to have the answer and then proceed to make ourselves look like tobies and "the movement" look facetious and of no interest to serious politicians and scholars.

National Socialists need to concentrate on the political and could do worse than start by studying Schmitt who has the almost unique honour of refusing to be " de- Nazified".

Anyone posting on this thread who then has to go and google Schmitt really needs to ask themselves "What do I know". Followed by how comes "the movement" doesn't promote the one Nazi still cited almost daily by the system and why is "the movement" not claiming credit for him
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Well, I, for one, know enough to know that the proper term is "National-Socialist," not "Nazi."

And that is something you should learn, too, before presuming to lecture the rest of us on what is and what is not properly NS doctrine.
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Well, I, for one, know enough to know that the proper term is "National-Socialist," not "Nazi."

And that is something you should learn, too, before presuming to lecture the rest of us on what is and what is not properly NS doctrine.
Really ? Well of course you would be a greater authority on such matters than Goebbels.

I mean you are the same bloke who is satisfied with the credentials of Cotterill so you must know what your talking about. Further you have uncritically endorsed the system stooges of National Action and held up their pro apartheid system devised demonstration as a manifestation of support for National Socialism . These two actions ensure that you will never be taken seriously by serious politicians

As to National Socialist doctrine, I would have thought an understanding of it's application in the here and now is absolutely essential. Yet I know that you have never heard of Schmitt and are probably downloading "Partisan" right now.
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