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I didn't even go into the Strom case, for example. I could. I cited examples of similar false smears against people. I'd me more than happy to do so, but first I'll address this Oprah long-winded post. Firstly, you name something or don't make the accusation. Quote:
I requested materials in 2002, and got them sent to me in North Richland Hills, Texas. I even got the bumper stickers about putting our troops on the Mexican border-too chicken to put them on my car at the time. But agreed with the reading material. You don't know a damn thing about records on me in June or July 2016 unless you work for Will Williams right now, and obviously you don't. And if you're referring to the way back machine-I never claimed to have joined in 02. Read more carefully dear. I said requested materials, not 'joined.' It was WCOTC that I joined in 2002. I've spoken to Will and another contact whom I will help with activism for NA, and I'm doing things with TCM. But not your business at any rate. But back then I didn't do racial activism, and never claimed I did. I've been 'rayciss' online since 2012. Used a nickname close to my real name and put a regular pic up on AWS in 2014, as most on there were doing (or many anyway as compared with other sites). Now it's 2016, and what I'm doing now I should have done all along. Quote:
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There are records of Will spending his own money on the Alliance. Quote:
You have no idea why my conclusions are what they are, as I haven't dissected all of that here. Perhaps I should, but that is time consuming. I will do it, though. But back to all these small slights I'm addressing here. Quote:
As for WFII: what branch of Klan and how does he know Will? No proof, just the claim. WFII didn't come onto stormfront and correct me, but you're coming here to do so and claiming they are/were buds? Proof, please. You're the same woman who got my info all wrong, so grain of salt for sure. Too bad what happened with Mr. Miller-and it looks like a lot of people here, there, and all over WN knew him and were friends with him. Last time I checked you can't put a dog collar on a grown man and tell him when to 'heel.' What you're doing there is called 'guilt by association' and it has no value. Quote:
OMG-you think that old decrepid woman in Florida molested children and committed Satanic Sacrifices at her daycare center?? Worth investigating-It was investigated, and those people went through hell for years!! That tells me all I need to know about your ability to apply logic to a court case. There were other 'child terror' cases in Florida that were bogus involving Reno. The children have come forth and also the vids exposing what the therapist was doing not in keeping with the law. You are a very ignorant, stupid woman if you fell for that crap. And those cases are remarkably different than the Larry King (Politican not talk show host) scandal which was PROVEN to be TRUE. You do not know how to look at evidence and apply logic if you compare the two. Also I guess the McMartins had tunnels under their house and brought the dead back to life, also what they were accused of. Calling me 'stupid' for using my name, real nice of you. Is that what you think of all open WN? Because my 'personal info' is no more personal than any other open activist for any other cause-the only people doing the pseudoname stuff are WN and the opposite, Antifa and criminal orgs. So I think it's wrong to be put in the same behavior pattern as people who really do have to hide because they're up to no good. I shouldn't have to. I don't see why a WN should be acting like the BAMN trash who cover their faces and have fake thug names and beat on people at Trump rallies and similar-I'm not doing a damn thing wrong. It's not illegal in the US yet to be a thought criminal-keep being 'skeered' and tip toeing around and it will be. Dumb is not seeing this new opportunity in light of the violence in the US and Trump to finally have an opening to tell the truth while people are seeing why it matters. There was a long period of time where the sentiment was not strong enough in white people even when they know what you're saying is right-now they're truly afraid and even angry and it's happened very rapidly, more so than I thought it would. People like yourself aren't seizing the moment. We don't live forever. I will put something on here re the criminal accusations you keep re-hashing, but for now that's my response to all matters of slander regarding me and my motivations/identity, etc. I'll also put a thread on here soon about Hale. A civil case against the BOP and his criminal appeal. Not that that would interest any of you-there's no land to steal. |
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As for Williams spending his own money, , what money, officialy he is on a pension, so where is the money really coming from. |
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It's just the same old useless bickering and sniping as always.
Alex seems the only adult in the room. I see wisdom and patience in his posts. I can't stick around because this just isn't me anymore. May you all return to Christ in your own way and in your own time. BTW---- I like Hadding. I always have. |
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One thing that runs through this whole cluster fuck on BOTH sides is mental illness.
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The other is a member of NA who is not on this forum, and people of 'good character' let others decide when to speak for themselves. |
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Read 'On the Historicity of Jesus'-make sure you don't forget the footnotes-it's full of 'wisdom' which comes from 'facts.' |
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She contacted Will in April of 2015 through National Vanguard's website, supposedly from a womens' shelter, desperate, suicidal, being evicted, begging for help? This is 20 years after he'd laid eyes on her. Then she moved in with Bob DeMarais the day after arriving in WV. These kinds of things matter when you want to cast aspersions on someone. As does the fact that the wife of the guy you believe the sexual stuff about left her young daughter home alone with him while supposedly having found him doing this or that disturbing thing that you love to rehash: Does that cast aspersions on her character at all? To be believed because why? Nobody in their right mind would leave their kid in the house under those circumstances. And then we know about her stalking of men and insanity that followed-she put it online herself. So that's where the most egregious mental illnesses lie, imho. War veterans have things they have to deal with-so nice the level of understanding folks have for those that served. I answer insults OCD style, so make of that what you will. But I'm not a pedo, liar, man/woman beater, and so on. I don't think Will or Kevin are, either. This is my opinion in having access to all the same info as those that can read have access to. And all of those evidences matter a lot more than your 'dislike' of someone's 'handshake' or similar. |
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Williams created his own enemies by meanness toward Garland and others. Repetition of Williams’ lies will only make me work harder.
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Is it a good thing to have a convicted paedophile in such a crucial public position? Would you recommend other organisations to recruit convicted paedophiles on probation? How many more convicted paedophiles do the National Alliiance intend to recruit? Will the National Alliance be opening a branch in Miracle Village near Pahokee, Florida that serves as a home for registered sex offenders?
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I'm putting a message out, too. We know how hard people work to usurp the leadership of organizations when there's something to gain. History tells us this real clearly. I noticed you simply said he was 'mean', not that what I posted that she allegedly did was untrue. That speaks volumes. Your war injury insults were very nice, also. Thanks for letting the world see that, too. Discerning people will be able to take note. So sad that is the work you want to be 'effective' at. |
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http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/2009...-to-the-court/ Then the case(s)-the docket nos: https://www.docketindex.com/kevin-alfred-strom.html Court to cross reference with said docket no in original: http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/ The 'gist' of it is there was no evidence save a woman who is herself an unstable criminal declaring she saw him do something. A Judge said he thought perhaps Kevin was obsessed with a child, but had done nothing, so could be convicted of nothing. Read Kevin's refutation of this as well. As for child porn or anything on a computer: this is done to people ALL THE TIME. People are in jail for decades at a time on false kiddie porn charges, whether you can handle that 'truth' or not. A couple in Texas sat in jail for over 25 years because a psycho mom said that they were Satanic sexual perverts. 25 years. They did nothing and recently got out. It's one of the easiest forms of hysteria to whip up-the 'he merlestered me' ala 'Southpark'. BTW: there are real human trafficking and pedo rings all over this country-and those people walk. They are quite protected and rarely harassed. That's where the energy should be directed if you want to help molested children. Quote:
And the 'conviction' if I understand was on Kevin acquiescing (to get out of prison) to having something on the computer that he expressly said he did not put there. You like to overlook this. Quote:
I didn't happen to know the 'home' for registered sex offenders was in Flori-duh, as I'm not obsessed with the topic. Now at that point anyone can read case transcripts for themselves. Make determinations for themselves. And when people don't see it your way, inferring that they are pedos or liars makes anyone's decision about whom to believe real easy. |
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I'm actually having trouble finding them as I read them years ago. I found the docket nos and court for you, though. Being a genius I'm sure you can takes it from there I don't personally know Don Black. No 'babycakes', your new lawsuit will go the way of the other one and KMART. S'more attempted logic to 'skool' you with: http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/wp-c...lor_report.jpg From the LPC who evaluated and met with Strom six times, Harvey Yoder, M. Ed., MALC: (partial quote): "..I am prepared to say, that in my professional judgment I do not see Mr. Strom meeting any of the criteria in the DSM IV for being a pedophile.." He's only an LPC. The Judge was only a Judge. I'm sure the great 'andy' and 'lucent' know better. And have no motivations but honorable ones. Last edited by Emily Henderson; August 3rd, 2016 at 10:51 PM. |
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You can cite third party opinions until your blue in the face. Even in the US it is possible to get probation terms and conditions lifted. One has to presume that Strom has submitted all of this extraneous third party "expert" opinion to the authorities not forgetting lodging an appeal against his convictions so how is this progressing? Face facts your flogging a dead horse the mainstream propagandists would make mincemeat out of an org with a nonce as it's media correspondent.While this situation (Stroms involvement) persists no genuine movement people will support the National Alliance and definitely no ordinary decent people among the general population.
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As for genuine movement people, whom you declare won't support the Alliance: the person I spoke with, as I said, knew Dr. Pierce and knows Will and is far more credible than I, he was openly involved for many years. Not a Dilloway type, either. I'm not sure how Strom's appeals are progressing, I haven't checked-but I cited reasons I believe he's not guilty, including using third party examples to illustrate that his is not the only case like it in the universe, by any means. Summation of what's wrong with the case imo, and why he's free: Witness motivated by mental illness potentially and also known to be a physical abuser and stalker: check. Making anyone question the value of their testimony. Inconsistent behavior of said witness in exposing a child to a person if they knew this about the person: check. Same witness who had access to the computer-to which Strom didn't have access for five months or so, meaning anyone could put anything on it: check. A therapist's evaluation stating the person in question does not meet the criteria for the definition of pedophile: check. Birthday gift and Christmas gifts to a schoolmate of his daughter: Judge wasn't sure if there were nefarious intentions or not, stated that even if there were he could convict of nothing as nothing had happened toward this child: I don't believe that falls within 'beyond a reasonable doubt' at all. It would be a scary "justice" system if you do. And those are the main reasons. Second time I cited them more or less. You obviously think otherwise. So recapping repeatedly is like a hamster on a wheel pointless. And then there's the going off half cocked threats. About ending up-what was that, squatting in a shack like poor 'ol Nick'? Like if you had a falling out with someone you just couldn't find the exit or a job? Sure. I'm not even in WV. Those silly threats and intimidation tactics do nothing for one's credibility. I'm to believe you reasonably decided something about these cases-when you didn't reasonably decide something about me? And then the other behavior of the accusers, including but not limited to: making fun of war injuries, miscarriages, telling half stories about what was said even on an open forum that anyone can go and read, anyone who supports NA is a perv or liar-or other similar terms of endearment. And one absolutely takes notice of the fact that there is something to gain by removing current NA leadership. Cited many, many reasons there, regarding the case and potential motivations I see from the opposition to the NA. |
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Clarity vs Assumptions &/or Misdirection
1) Which current NA?
The Williams and Strom 2013 founded "NEW NA" out of TN HQ; with it's associated "Cosmotheist Alliance Church" incorporated in TN 8/13/2014 by Williams? or The William L. Pierce 1974 founded National Alliance (NA) a Virginia corporation out of WV HQ; and it's subsidiary Entities? That would first be important to establish which you are speaking of. 2) Could you list the "Leadership" for each from #1? Including all Roles and Titles. Quote:
3) Define it? As this seems a key matter. 4) From where? And whom? Is this "opposition to the NA" [Answers to the first question would assist here. Or do so for both if you wish.] 5) Are you opposed to the NA? If so why? If not why? 6) What exactly is to gain? For whom? Answers to #2 or #4, or both? Seems unclear in your assumptions and understanding. 7) What are these motivations you see? 8) What are your motives? 9) What do you have to gain? 10) Who all exactly has been helping you with your understanding of all of this, and these matters? How? 11) a) Do you believe it is acceptable for Williams to have such a long mutually beneficial relationship with the SPLC? b) Do you believe it is acceptable for him on his own to tell the SPLC that they have HIS permission to use NA and it's subsidiaries work product or proprietary property? c) Do you believe it is acceptable for him to give the SPLC story ideas, layout suggestions, and to out many people, and send SPLC info on people to benefit himself personally. Such as links, pictures, work place, when they were in the NA or other groups they have been associated, or are with now, home address or general location, etc.. To include sometimes also giving info to their employers, and neighbors JUST because they have asked questions about some inconsistencies with him, caught him in a or several lies and pointed this out, or expressed perhaps they don't like HIM personally? Last edited by Lucent Noble; August 4th, 2016 at 07:24 AM. |
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SPLC was so happy that the money Robert McCorkill was giving to the NA upon passing was not passed to the organizaion. Thrilled actually. Why thrilled? Because it's the real NA. You can see who hates whom and it tells you a lot. SPLC doesn't have so much to say about NAARG, they don't care what you're working on. Quote:
Kevin Strom, Media Director David Pringle, Chief of Staff To what do I owe you this homework? Shall I upload an audio recording of me reading trial transcripts as well? I mean, reading it yourself is asking a bit much, my apologies. Quote:
Klan folks who want to Jesus up the ideology-and all Klan aren't doing this but select folks are. Look on SF. NAARG and countless lawsuits brought on to of course usurp the leadership (I already named them, dear) and control of the property-both land and audio/video/reading materials-in WV. BTW-it's common for someone to have a location other than the one location in WV from whence they do business. Ridiculous to see that over and over on these forums. Quote:
To gain? Same thing I gained when I shut down a local puppy mill. I'll do what I want if I care about it, that's my motivation. What position are you in to question my morality? Who even are you, and what is your position, with what org, and what are your motives? If you get to ask, so do I. Quote:
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Please upload proof he talked to someone's employers or neighbors, otherwise baseless claim. But I could care less if he talks to mine. |
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I found out Kevin Strom is in it. That was enough for me to say "No thanks."
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The New NA leaders support
convicted criminals as leaders paedophiles interracial relationships financial..irregularities The opposition is several fold: Whites who don't accept convicted criminals as representatives Whites who don't support paedophiles Whites who don't support interracial relationships Whites who don't support financial shenanigans In effect, the opposition is the average, normal White person. The NA has descended from being led by a literal rocket scientist to being led by bankrupts, strippers, drug addicts. paedophiles and criminals. This will not end well.
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