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Old September 26th, 2007 #21
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The myth of The Northwest migration for WNs, is little more than a hobby and attention-getter for the failed, old, mentally disturbed Harold Covington. And an absolute absurdity to mentally stable, jew-wise WNs.
Whether its a Northwest Migration or somewhere else, the fact is if any rational resistance can ever be carried out, there must be some significantly large area where activists, revolutionists, etc. can be relatively free from the constant threat of ZOG when not actively engaged in operations.

BTW, for anyone who wasn't around back ten years ago, Harold Covington thoroughly discredited himself by his years of slandering William Pierce with bogus accusations of financial scams. It was the height of hypocrisy, as I seem to recall, that Covington absconded with something like $10K that he collected from his gullible supporters under the guise of establishing a HQ for his organization.
 
Old September 26th, 2007 #22
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ZOG has the Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force, nuclear warhead missles, and atomic bombs. If we are all gathered in one place, our little rifles and pistols will be no match for Apache helicopters, or 20,000 pound bombs.

If we withdraw to the northwest, we would be giving up our industry, farms, mines, steel mills, auto makers, seaports, etc. Where will be buy our cars? Where will our food come from? Where do we get electricity? Steel? Cement?

Perhaps the dream of an all-white state is unrealistic, a fantasy. While whites turn a deaf ear to nationalism, the coloreds don't. People of color understand and value nationalism. They don't really buy into the equalitarian crap. Only gullible whites do that. Blacks will play the race card, but only because they are looking out for themselves. Yes, there are plenty of black criminals but there are many whites just like them. Simply making America white isn't going to turn this country into a paradise.

The enemy of all nations is the Jew. Blacks and Mexicans know about the Jews. Like it or not, we may have to settle for practicing our nationalism while living in a mixed society. This is done by restoring free choice and the right to socialize separately. Racial separatism. We may have to work with blacks, eat in a Chinese restaurant with Mexicans, etc., but we can form private clubs for whites only and socially separate. Other races can do the same; sort of a voluntary separation based on mutual respect. What we all have in common is a desire to end Jewish capitalism with all its attendent evils.

On the other hand, if one is a purest and insists on an exclusively white homeland, then partitioning the U.S. may be the only way to do it but you will have to get the other races to go along with it. If we partition the southwest for the Mexicans, part of the deep south and part of the deep north for blacks, and we get the rest, maybe it would work. After all, we and the Indians having been living partitioned for 140 years. But you will have to offer the other races something or they will oppose it.

If not this, then one can go underground and become a revolutionary. Or launch a political crusade and work within the system. Or one can become a lone wolf survivalist and wait for God to open a window.

I don't claim to know the answer.
 
Old September 27th, 2007 #23
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Whether its a Northwest Migration or somewhere else, the fact is if any rational resistance can ever be carried out, there must be some significantly large area where activists, revolutionists, etc. can be relatively free from the constant threat of ZOG when not actively engaged in operations.

BTW, for anyone who wasn't around back ten years ago, Harold Covington thoroughly discredited himself by his years of slandering William Pierce with bogus accusations of financial scams. It was the height of hypocrisy, as I seem to recall, that Covington absconded with something like $10K that he collected from his gullible supporters under the guise of establishing a HQ for his organization.
I'm not sure I understand your concept here, but don't doubt it. Also in MK Hitler wrote that all succesfull ideological movements had a geographical/spiritual home base. A believe he was referring to Rome, Mecca and in the NSDAP Neuremberg (sp?).
I don't recall martyrs being mentioned in MK in relation to the geo/spiritual bases, but we know Rome had many Chrisitan martys, the Muslims took a lot of real heat in Mecca in the early years and Hitler was among a group that produced 16 instant martyrs in Neuremberg in 1923.
Covington empahsis the fact that the Northwest has Matthews, Lane and Sam and Vicky Weaver as martyrs, and I'm not sure that list is all inclusive.
Additionally, although not part of the WN movement, Rachel Corey was DEFINATELY a martyr to the anti-semitic liberals in the PNW. Anti-semitism (and according to one poster here anti-black racism) is something we have in common with the greens, peta (don't forget Kosher slaughter) who live out there. Kum by ya with some of these lib's fellas.
 
Old September 27th, 2007 #24
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None of us knows what is going to happen even five minutes from now. However, your objections and concerns (which are very reasonable and logical) are discussed in the archives here:

www.nwhomeland.blogspot.com .

For a general overview and explanation of the NW migration, you might look at this website:

www.northwesthomeland.org .
 
Old September 27th, 2007 #25
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Hear !!! Hear !!! Extremely well said, brutus. I couldn't agree more.

The myth of The Northwest migration for WNs, is little more than a hobby and attention-getter for the failed, old, mentally disturbed Harold Covington. And an absolute absurdity to mentally stable, jew-wise WNs.
I am less critical of Covington than Rounder is. If Northwest migration seems to someone to be the best way to save our race, let him do it. We're all volunteers. Each man will resist in the way that most appeals to him personally. Good luck.

But basically, Rounder is right that Northwest migration is not the best strategy, at least not for most people. The Balkans resemble the Northwest geographically but are across the Atlantic instead of in ZOG's backyard. Nonetheless ZOG recently conquered the biggest and most formidable tribe in the Balkans, the Serbs, with hardly breaking a sweat. Though ZOG merely replaced the Serbs' government, ZOG could have killed them all. The Serbs knew that, which is why they surrendered.

Germany, including Bavaria, Thuringia, "Saxon Switzerland", and combined with Austria and the German-populated districts of central and eastern Europe, was as extensive and inaccessible as the Pacific Northwest. Yet ZOG and the Bolshevik slave-empire, working together, totally conquered Germany et al, and have occupied them ruthlessly for 62 years.

To paraphrase Robert E. Lee, instead of worrying about what ZOG's going to do to us, we need to start thinking about what we're going to do to ZOG. For most people, the best strategy is to oppose ZOG (legally, of course!) right where you are, right now, head on. Save the moving bill. Your own front yard is your Pacific Northwest.

Last night on PBS, Ken Burns' WWII documentary revealed that Hitler had advocated continuing the hedgerow warfare in Normandy which was bleeding the US Army to death. It was Hitler's generals (most of them) who wimped out and practically overruled Hitler. The generals' retreat turned into a strafing "Highway of Death" with 10,000 German troops killed. One experienced US fighter-bomber pilot stated that the slaughter was so much worse than anything he'd ever done before that he developed an hysterical paralysis of his right hand that bothered him for the rest of his life.

Retreat isn't a winner.

(Hitler was also right about attacking the USSR. According to history published by Gerhard Lauck, in 1941 Hitler told the generals to ignore the cesspool in Moscow - Russia's Washington D.C. - and focus on liberating Ukraine. Some basically mutinied, turned north to Moscow, failed & froze. The summer of 1942, the generals followed Hitler's plan more closely, but it was too late.)
 
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I am less critical of Covington than Rounder is. If Northwest migration seems to someone to be the best way to save our race, let him do it. We're all volunteers. Each man will resist in the way that most appeals to him personally. Good luck.

But basically, Rounder is right that Northwest migration is not the best strategy, at least not for most people. The Balkans resemble the Northwest geographically but are across the Atlantic instead of in ZOG's backyard. Nonetheless ZOG recently conquered the biggest and most formidable tribe in the Balkans, the Serbs, with hardly breaking a sweat. Though ZOG merely replaced the Serbs' government, ZOG could have killed them all. The Serbs knew that, which is why they surrendered.

Germany, including Bavaria, Thuringia, "Saxon Switzerland", and combined with Austria and the German-populated districts of central and eastern Europe, was as extensive and inaccessible as the Pacific Northwest. Yet ZOG and the Bolshevik slave-empire, working together, totally conquered Germany et al, and have occupied them ruthlessly for 62 years.

To paraphrase Robert E. Lee, instead of worrying about what ZOG's going to do to us, we need to start thinking about what we're going to do to ZOG. For most people, the best strategy is to oppose ZOG (legally, of course!) right where you are, right now, head on. Save the moving bill. Your own front yard is your Pacific Northwest.

Last night on PBS, Ken Burns' WWII documentary revealed that Hitler had advocated continuing the hedgerow warfare in Normandy which was bleeding the US Army to death. It was Hitler's generals (most of them) who wimped out and practically overruled Hitler. The generals' retreat turned into a strafing "Highway of Death" with 10,000 German troops killed. One experienced US fighter-bomber pilot stated that the slaughter was so much worse than anything he'd ever done before that he developed an hysterical paralysis of his right hand that bothered him for the rest of his life.

Retreat isn't a winner.

(Hitler was also right about attacking the USSR. According to history published by Gerhard Lauck, in 1941 Hitler told the generals to ignore the cesspool in Moscow - Russia's Washington D.C. - and focus on liberating Ukraine. Some basically mutinied, turned north to Moscow, failed & froze. The summer of 1942, the generals followed Hitler's plan more closely, but it was too late.)

Running out of library time, but as to Serbia/Kosov situation in '99, Serbia gave up Kosov (sort of) becasue otherwise Clinton would have bombed belgarae till the rubble bounced.
That is not relevant to a Nwest homeland gurreilla struggle. A more appropriate commparison would be the bombing of the rest of US by the UN until the US let the pacific north west go.
 
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Running out of library time, but as to Serbia/Kosov situation in '99, Serbia gave up Kosov (sort of) becasue otherwise Clinton would have bombed belgarae till the rubble bounced.
That is not relevant to a Nwest homeland gurreilla struggle. A more appropriate commparison would be the bombing of the rest of US by the UN until the US let the pacific north west go.
Thanks for your input!
 
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Running out of library time, but as to Serbia/Kosov situation in '99, Serbia gave up Kosov (sort of) becasue otherwise Clinton would have bombed belgarae till the rubble bounced.
That is not relevant to a Nwest homeland gurreilla struggle. A more appropriate commparison would be the bombing of the rest of US by the UN until the US let the pacific north west go.
This would never happen. The UN is anti White and pro jew. Their plan is to force all nations to be multiculti so that people will lose their ethnic identity and let thier culture be replaced by MTV cRap music. The jew created UN want to make the entire world be one country with one jew controlled government.
It will be like a slave plantation with jews living off the fat of the land while their goyim slaves suffer and toil hard.
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This would never happen. The UN is anti White and pro jew. Their plan is to force all nations to be multiculti so that people will lose their ethnic identity and let thier culture be replaced by MTV cRap music. The jew created UN want to make the entire world be one country with one jew controlled government.
It will be like a slave plantation with jews living off the fat of the land while their goyim slaves suffer and toil hard.
I agree the UN wouldn't. I was just saying if the DID.
Maybe a better why to have made my point would have been thus;

The US bombed Serbia proper till it relinquished control of Kosovo.
A similar situation in North America would be if the NAR (Northwest American Republic) was trying to hang onto western Wyoming, even after Mexican immigrant invaders had displaced more than half of the White NAR population of Wyoming. Subsequently Washington D.C. bombs Seattle, Portland, Boise etc until a fifth of each city is destroied. A this point the NAR relinquishes title to Western Wyoming.
This is not the same as the scenario Covington is writing about. Covingtons idea is that Washingto tries to crush ALL of the Northwest to force them to open their borders with the US and allow continued unlimited Mexican immigration into Oregon, Washington and Idaho. The second is a vastly worse evil.
Covington I suppose would agree D.C. could force the NAR to give up Western Wyoming, but that they wouldn't give up the whole enchelada.
Then begins the long "colonial war" as HAC defines it.
This is more like our adventure in Iraq rather than the tea party of 1999.
 
Old October 9th, 2007 #30
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This Northwest migration is the greatest plan ever ! Our "Little Europe" here on the Oklahoma-Texas state line are planning to head that way in August, so there will be 237 more white people living in the Northwest by the end of the summer.
 
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This Northwest migration is the greatest plan ever ! Our "Little Europe" here on the Oklahoma-Texas state line are planning to head that way in August, so there will be 237 more white people living in the Northwest by the end of the summer.
Excellent!
 
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10 October, 2007 at 9:00 pm

As I read Dr. Oliver's letters, I remain amazed that the White Nationalist Ideal has made so little traction in America, and, in part, I would like to quote (well, closely paraphrase) Alex Linder: "Absolutely no one in this `Movement' is to be trusted absolutely." The best ideal, the best ideas, and the damnedest group of incompetents, fools, idiots, half-wits and perverts are out there as the public face of what we all espouse, and support.

I'm sorry Dr. Oliver felt the way he did towards Harold Covington. He is certainly entitled to his beliefs. He is certainly wrong.

For all we can criticize Covington for on a personal level, usually only hearing his opponent's side of the story, we can not argue with the belief that the Northwest Republic encompasses every good Idea concerning White Nationalism, frame it in whatever terms we may choose, and comprises the perfect Analytical Framework for ANY analysis of our current state of affairs, and, virtually uniquely, what can be actually DONE about them.

Taken together, essentially, all of Covington's detractors have accomplished pretty much nothing of substance.

Oliver? Suicide, after having been neutralized by the damn Jews while with the Birchers.

Klassen? Suicide.

Pierce? Died virtually alone, virtually unmourned, and did not leave a functioning organization behind, despite all of the godwill he had built up over the years.

Anyone who wants to criticize Covington usually criticizes him for some personal shortcoming, real or imagined. Let any - or all - of them do half as well as
A Distant Thunder, and then they can talk all damn day. Incidentally, speaking of Dr. Oliver, did Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom ever call in with her declaration of what happened to Dr. Oliver's library?

Now, to brass tacks. I have spent more time than I should have trying to answer one quetion: Why have we, essentially, made virtually no headway at all on any substantial front?

Rallies? No one shows up.

Flyer drops? No one responds positively to us.

Demonstrations? Ignored, with the exception of those led by the talented Bill White, whose voice belongs on VNN Radio.

What do all of our ineffective activities have in common? I see two factors at work.

One, our focus should be on the Vanguard, and a focus of quality, over quantity. People will only pay attention to anything we have to say when they are literally faced with desperation. Bill White notes that people respond favorably when they do flyers in blue collar White neighborhoods, even when they are wearing the brownshirt/red swastika armband.

Two, we must start where we are, and be what we want the world to become. None of our leaders are coming back to save us. Rockwell, Pierce, Oliver, you name who you will (David Lane?), all gone, and none coming back. So, it's up to us. I have a lot more to say about this in the context of an alternative history biography I have been working on centered around the late Dr. Sam Francis, but let me close with this comment.

Covington is succeeding, where his detractors have failed, because the Northwest Republic Trilogy - especially
A Distant Thunder - define a positive definition of what is possible, where we don't worry about our Opponents.

No. THEY worry about US. It is OUR power, OUR energy, OUR drive to the stars, OUR creativity, that they have captured and harnessed against us, and with which we have been unwitting co-conspirators against our family, and our RACE. Metzger had it right; the parasite is only performing its natural function, feeding off of dead tissues - the places we chose to abandon, for whatever reason.

Until we become focused on WHO we are, WHAT we are doing, WHY we are doing, and can answer ALL of those question in the Analytical Framework of our Family, as the microcosm of our RACE, our RACE, as the macrocosm of our family, and RACE as the living bridge between family and culture, we are allowing our racial enemies to define not just the terms of engagement, but even who we are, and what we are.

I suspect if Oliver was alive today, I could sit down with him for a day or so, and convince him that the analytical framework of Covington's Northwest Republic had all of the answers, if we only have the courage to ask the proper questions. We keep looking to the past, that never was, the safe, comfortable past of our childhood. We MUST look to the future, and build the future we wish, for our family, our posterity, and our race.

Open question for the class: What would Rockwell, Pierce, and Oliver do TODAY?

Bonus question: HOW would they accomplish these goal(s), and why would they chose those goal(s) over other goals?

Extra points: What differences would these be between the Goals and Solutions of Pierce, Rockwell, and Oliver, and why?

Final Question: What could you do about it, and why aren't you doing that TONIGHT?


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Old October 16th, 2007 #33
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Harold Covington is actually the target of most of the criticism directed against the idea of the Northwest Migration. It is my observation that personalities in the racially conscious community spend (waste) a huge amount of time sniping at each other.

It amazes me that people think that an idea is somehow tainted or flawed simply because it is associated with, or has been developed by, a particular individual. Covington, whatever his real or imagined flaws, has spent years synthesizing and conceptualizing the common themes of successful guerilla/colonial wars and independence movements.

He has developed these ideas on one of his blogs,

www.nwhomeland.blogspot.com .

Additionally, since he knows most Americans have low tolerance for essays, serious analysis, and political tracts, he has presented his ideas in three novels, which are interesting and fun to read. They can be downloaded FREE at this site:

www.nwtrilogy.blogspot.com .

In Covington's view, a successful revolutionary independence movement can succeed without a Maximum Leader. In his books, the 'father' of the movement, The Old Man, is arrested soon after the start of the rebellion. Thereafter, he has minimal contact with the revolutionary forces. The struggle is collectively led by the Army Council, none of the leading members of which are mentioned in the books. Most of the decisions are made by the intermediate and lower level fighting units. A theme of these novels is that the struggle is not dependent upon the efforts of any one man.
 
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Harold Covington is actually the target of most of the criticism directed against the idea of the Northwest Migration. It is my observation that personalities in the racially conscious community spend (waste) a huge amount of time sniping at each other.

It amazes me that people think that an idea is somehow tainted or flawed simply because it is associated with, or has been developed by, a particular individual. Covington, whatever his real or imagined flaws...he has presented his ideas in three novels, which are interesting and fun to read...
You're right, he's a novelist, a fiction writer -- a failed one, at that. His flaws are not imagined. He is a well-documented pathological liar and a fraud. He is a confirmed paranoid schizophrenic with both delusions of grandeur and a persecution complex. He has been in hiding for over ten years, running from an adverse libel judgment I obtained. He owes me $200,000+/- as a result. That's why he, as Maximal Leader, must lead his great NW Migration from under his rock. His "song" sucks, Uncle John.

I offer a $200 reward to the person that provides an address for him where he can be successfully served court documents. Get him to settle his debt and then your Leader can come out from under his rock and lead you like a man.
 
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He's not my leader, that's the point. i wish you guys would actually read the posts before popping off.
 
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I read your post, Bub. Covington can't be anybody's leader because he's in hiding. Did you read my post?

The fact is you, sir, are promoting a world class fraud to unsuspecting newbies unfamiliar with his sorry record of political sabotage. I'd put you on Ignore with other subversives but I'd do better to watch you and counter your promotion of "Big Lie" Covington. Expect me to "pop off" every time you promote your lying sack o' shit.
 
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Logic isn't your strong point, is it?
 
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That's being charitable.
 
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His logic is perfectly sound, and you know it. Otherwise, you'd refute what he said.

You come on here and post Covington's bullshit, then deny you support him. What kinda freakin logic is that ??
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It is discouraging. I'm trying to interest people in the IDEA of the Northwest Migration and why it might actually have a chance of working. Harold Covington has done a very nice job developing and discussing the concept, so naturally I use his essays and fiction (which I enjoy). However, the Northwest Migration isn't about Harold Covington, just as the American Revolution wasn't about Tom Paine.

Another idea which has potential is the PIONEER LITTLE EUROPE concept, which has an entire forum (The Advance Scout forum) devoted to it at
www.stormfront.org .
 
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