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Old August 27th, 2017 #61
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Conservatives and Libertarians should be careful what they ask for, when they ask for some institutions with government oversight to be handed over to the private sector. ICANN being an example of this. Corporations have political agendas as red as any in government, and they're not obligated to grant you 1st amendment rights, unlike the government. Champions of the "Private Sector" might want to rethink their positions now.
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Old August 27th, 2017 #62
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Are there any legal measures that Don Black can take? This Closure of SF is to my mind PURE PIRACY!
Legal measures are expensive.

Don Black can drop cloudflare and let people connect directly to his server's IP address, but that will make it vulnerable to DDOS attacks.

vnnforum will likely be next, so we need to figure out a decentralized alternative quickly.

According to Daily Stormer the TOR network itself is trying to boot them now, so that's no long term alternative either.
 
Old August 27th, 2017 #63
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Doesn't look good for SF if this is true
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The Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law claimed responsibility for the incident, stating in its document to Network Solutions, that 100 murders motivated by hatred can be traced back to Stormfront users.
The '100 murders' was of course a figure speciously derived by the infamous SPLC. Given that Stormfront had over 300,000 registered users (!), it's actually quite possible - even likely - that there were 100 murders committed by those users over the course of the 20+ years that the site was in operation; a typical US city of that size would have about 20-50 murders PER YEAR.

But this ignores the fact that Stormfront's official policy was one of nonviolence (except in self-defense, of course) and that openly advocating such activities was grounds for immediate suspension of a user's account. It also ignores the fact that virtually none of the perpetrators of those murders were prominent or prolific members of the site; most of them just registered and posted a mere handful of articles before either leaving of their own accord or being banned. The identities of some (most?) of them were merely surmised by the SPLC, not positively identified with the murderers; it would be difficult to positively identify someone who had registered under a pseudonym. But of course, if they continued posting after the arrest of the perpetrator(s), we can be pretty sure that they weren't the culprit.

Contrast this with sites like Facebook, which has had literally THOUSANDS of users who have committed murders, not uncommonly because they were motivated by hate (I don't know of very many murders committed because the murderer loved the victim), and some of whom were doubtless among the perpetrators of the SPLC's Stormfront '100 murders' list. And Facebook, of course, gets a free pass - doubtless in no small part because Zuckerberg is a member of The Tribe.

This is a perfect example of the use of the 'Big Lie' technique.

Sean.

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Old August 27th, 2017 #64
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Stormfront radio is still up on Rense. So there should be a show this Monday. I'm sure Don will give details about whats going on and what he is planning to do next.

http://renseradioarchives.com/stormfront/
Thanks for the info!
 
Old August 27th, 2017 #65
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Conservatives and Libertarians should be careful what they ask for, when they ask for some institutions with government oversight to be handed over to the private sector. ICANN being an example of this. Corporations have political agendas as red as any in government, and they're not obligated to grant you 1st amendment rights, unlike the government. Champions of the "Private Sector" might want to rethink their positions now.
This is exactly the kind of scenario that I was afraid might happen when ICANN was freed from its government oversight (though of course I couldn't know whether it would be manifested first with political speech or commercial speech - for example, saying bad things about multinational corporations like Monsanto, just to use an example that a lot of people like to hate). I just didn't think it would happen so soon. But of course my opinion isn't worth chopped liver to the PTB.

But before we rush to blame ICANN for this mess, we really need to be certain whether they're actually only bystanders of something that (so far) has been the actions of only a few US-based registrars, or if they're in it up to their eyeballs. ICANN has never put very strict rules on what domain name registrars can and can't do with their Terms of Service, not the least because some registrars are beholden to the highly restrictive laws of their respective governments. And typically, up until now registrars in the US have been very reluctant to censor sites based on the political viewpoints expressed there; this is what has changed.

This is why net neutrality is so important, and we are losing it. Today it might only be Daily Stormer and Stormfront; tomorrow it will be Free Republic, Alex Jones, and Rush Limbaugh. The day after that it will be any site that isn't openly Marxist. The Left won't be satisfied until everyone to the right of Lenin and Stalin has been silenced.

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Old August 27th, 2017 #66
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Yes, "THAT" Tarzan....


Hey folks. Can't say I am surprised at all about the recent events concerning S.F... "THEY" are going to censor and restrict the entire net at some point , I mean , we can't have the actual TRUTH getting out , now can we? At this point i would like to suggest a default short-wave frequency for our continuing struggles.

The "other" hates us all , whether you post on vnn or s.f. , if you are nordic or med or slav, they still hate you. Unity is our only hope.
Like Ben Franklin said, " we must hang together, otherwise we will assuredly hang separately."
Agreed 100%! This episode concerning SF must be studied to see if anything can be done to stop it happening to other pro-White sites such as this one!
 
Old August 27th, 2017 #67
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I'm also from Stormfront (was lifetime and core paying member) and some of my threads/blog posts would appear in the top 10 of google and bing/yahoo searches for simple terms like: "Hitler peace proposal", "German faith", "British faith", "British church", "European American faith", etc.

You'd think we'd be allowed to have a couple places on the planet to have frank conversations about issues pertinent to European people, but liberals are bent on our total erasure.

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Old August 27th, 2017 #68
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So I guess this is the place to be now. I recon if this is the only place around the place, I recon this must be the place I recon.
 
Old August 27th, 2017 #69
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Doesn't look good for SF if this is true

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100 murders motivated by hatred can be traced back to Stormfront users.
The ADL has been making this misleading claim about 100 murders traced back to Stormfront users for years.

How many murders have been committed by Democrats or New York Times readers?? Thousands? Tens of Thousands?

Most people at SF are signed up anonymously. How would they know that "AryanWarrior88" is actually "John Q. Smith" for example?

Only a tiny percent of the people on SF use their own names and out of all of them only a very tiny percentage have gotten in trouble with the law. I can only think of two or three off hand, which is not statistically a lot out of hundreds of thousands of members over the last 22 years, not to mention all the lurkers.

I would not be surprised if they just claim that murderers are SF members to try to build up a false statistic.

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Old August 27th, 2017 #70
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The '100 murders' was of course a figure speciously derived by the infamous SPLC. Given that Stormfront had over 300,000 registered users (!), it's actually quite possible - even likely - that there were 100 murders committed by those users over the course of the 20+ years that the site was in operation; a typical US city of that size would have about 20-50 murders PER YEAR.
The people going on Stormfront were looking for legal, political ways to fight for the interests of the White race. They were probably less likely than average to commit murders since they had an important political struggle to fight.


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But this ignores the fact that Stormfront's official policy was one of nonviolence (except in self-defense, of course) and that openly advocating such activities was grounds for immediate suspension of a user's account.
The ADL has suffered some setbacks in the courts. They don't control all U.S. courts completely. Justice is extremely random in this country, but we have to fight back against these dishonest would-be tyrants in the courts.

Not only was advocating violence not allowed on Stormfront, racial epithets were not allowed. Why isn't that seen as an effort at not being hateful?

As we all know, telling the truth about Black or Latino crime or Jewish political tyranny is equated to "hate" .......by the Jews. Must be nice getting to define what is "hate" and what isn't.
 
Old August 27th, 2017 #71
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The ADL has been making this misleading claim about 100 murders traced back to Stormfront users.

How many murders have been committed by Democrats or New York Times readers?? Thousands? Tens of Thousands?

Most people at SF are signed up anonymously. How would they know that "AryanWarrior88" is actually "John Q. Smith" for example.

Only a tiny percent of the people on SF use their own names and out of all of them only a very tiny percentage have gotten in trouble with the law. I can only think of two or three off hand, which is not statistically a lot out of hundreds of thousands of members over the last 22 years, not to mention all the lurkers.

I would not be surprised if they just claim that murderers are SF members to try to build up a false statistic.
Smokescreens and selective enforcement of the "law" is par for the course with this bunch. How many murders were instigated by Facebook ? what about the kids sending naked flicks to each other (child porn) on snap-chat? Not a word was said about shutting sites down. Even blm sites were left to operate after calling for , and receiving , violence against cops.
We, and hopefully that term is growing , know what the REAL charges are here ; Sticking up for Whites in the first degree.
 
Old August 27th, 2017 #72
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Major Ku Klux Klan and Nazi Website Stormfront Has Been Kicked Offline

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One of the most prominent white supremacist and Nazi destinations online, Stormfront.org, went dark Friday, likely at the behest of its domain host, Network Solutions. This is just the latest in a wave of online hate-group account deletions and website closures in the wake of the Charlottesville rally that turned violent earlier this month.
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But now, with Stormfront offline, all the logistics and planning have been forced offline too. Same goes for the email addresses associated with Stormfront.org. I tried emailing Don Black at the Stormfront address listed under his name on various other white supremacist forums, and it bounced back. The archives for email addresses under that domain may be inaccessible, too.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_te...d_offline.html
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Old August 28th, 2017 #73
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They are tying to cut us off and control.
Absolutely right!
The jew is a creature of SUPPRESSION - as one can clearly see in their creation & domination of the diamond industry!
 
Old August 28th, 2017 #74
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The attack on Stormfront by the Left took place on Aug. 25th (which is the anniversary of the murder of George Lincoln Rockwell by the way, which tells me the Jews were likely behind it).

The details of why the website was taken down haven't appeared anywhere that I know of aside from some activist left-wing law firm pressuring Stormfront's domain host, which should have carried zero legal weight.

By taking the website down on Friday, they made it difficult for Don Black to react to this. The obvious first step is to get a lawyer to apply some legal pressure on the domain host to honor their business contract.

One big problem is that this could be new legal territory. Most domain hosts collect fees from their clients and there isn't outside pressure for them to kick people out.

It will be interesting to see what happens today. A good lawyer could really put pressure on the domain host, and Stormfront might be back up today. At the very least, their "theft" of Stormfront's web address should be resolved. This is completely illegal. The domain host is acting more like a left-wing activist than a businessman. I wonder if the host was bought up by Soros.
 
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Stormfront Radio begins at 9 AM Eastern Time on the Rense Radio Network
 
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The attack on Stormfront by the Left took place on Aug. 25th (which is the anniversary of the murder of George Lincoln Rockwell by the way, which tells me the Jews were likely behind it).

The details of why the website was taken down haven't appeared anywhere that I know of aside from some activist left-wing law firm pressuring Stormfront's domain host, which should have carried zero legal weight.

By taking the website down on Friday, they made it difficult for Don Black to react to this. The obvious first step is to get a lawyer to apply some legal pressure on the domain host to honor their business contract.

One big problem is that this could be new legal territory. Most domain hosts collect fees from their clients and there isn't outside pressure for them to kick people out.

It will be interesting to see what happens today. A good lawyer could really put pressure on the domain host, and Stormfront might be back up today. At the very least, their "theft" of Stormfront's web address should be resolved. This is completely illegal. The domain host is acting more like a left-wing activist than a businessman. I wonder if the host was bought up by Soros.
Interesting! Good post!
 
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Absolutely right!
The jew is a creature of SUPPRESSION - as one can clearly see in their creation & domination of the diamond industry!
Jews are a distinct group separate from all others. They are an extremely organized, monolithic, multigenerational, multinational tribal criminal syndicate, all of them, networking, conspiring both openly, and secretly, in their many, many organizations and synogogues, to exploit, rule and ultimately ruin the world. Jews are racial supremacists actively seeking and working toward the absolute subjugation of all races, but most importantly, the total destruction and elimination of the White Race.

Their success is the result of a multifaceted jew takeover of all the various realms of White society, from media to finance, entertainment to medicine, from the law to religion. This entity runs the government and the banks which enables them to commit any crime they like because they appoint all the judges. Their inter-tribal collusion is more thoroughly and specifically exposed by the following list, jews working together, openly or secretly, all of them knowing and doing what's good for jews no matter the destruction they cause to everyone else.

Jews work together as a biased and extremely ethnocentric group. They have a very strong sense of shared identity and paranoia towards outsiders, the goyim. Working together as a united fifth column, jews are always active in information control, financial control, political control, entertainment control, vice promotion, traditional moral destruction and the like. For those who don't realize or can't fathom the extreme power jews hold in the US, please extrapolate the overwhelming power and influence jews hold over us by their networking with their fellow tribesman from each of the following terms:

Government jews, CIA jews, FBI jews, NSA jews, EPA jews, SCOTUS jews, advisor jews, congressional staff jews, policy jews, banking jews, Wall St. jews, Israel first jews, Globalist jews, AIPAC jews, ADL jews, SPLC jews, B'nai Brith jews, holoHOAX jews, zionist jews, war incitement jews, immigration jews, civil rights jews, gun grabber jews, feminism jews, judge jews, lawyer jews, news jews, jounalist jews, publisher jews, author jews, newspaper jews, computer jews, education jews, university jews, professor jews, wikipedia jews, corporate jews, labor union jews, the energy jews, the green jews, the agri-business jews, chemical jews, US patent office jews, entertainment jews, hollywood jews, music industry jews, porno jews, diamond jews, homo jews, paedo jews, pro-sports team owner jews, TV jews, radio jews, internet jews, doctor jews, pharmaceutical jews, abortion jews, insurance jews, white slavery jews, mob jews, religion jews, dual-citizen jews, and finally, the all inclusive LYING JEWS.. You know, those jews, doing what's good for jews to the detriment and for the extermination of the White Race, the driving forces behind open immigration of the turd world, special rights and privileges for minorities that Whites can't access, hate crimes for Whites only, multiracialism, race mixing, abortion of majority (White) babies, Feminism, pornography, perversion, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, Common Core, the destructive counterculture in general, everything fucking up America.
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Old August 28th, 2017 #78
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The ADL has been making this misleading claim about 100 murders traced back to Stormfront users for years.

How many murders have been committed by Democrats or New York Times readers?? Thousands? Tens of Thousands?

Most people at SF are signed up anonymously. How would they know that "AryanWarrior88" is actually "John Q. Smith" for example?

Only a tiny percent of the people on SF use their own names and out of all of them only a very tiny percentage have gotten in trouble with the law. I can only think of two or three off hand, which is not statistically a lot out of hundreds of thousands of members over the last 22 years, not to mention all the lurkers.

I would not be surprised if they just claim that murderers are SF members to try to build up a false statistic.

Those 100 murders the SPLC has droned on about, and is one of the top articles in searches regarding Stormfront.
Seventy seven of those 100 murders is taken from Norwegian Anders Breivik.
Who the SPLC claims he had made a few posts on Stormfront.
However they do not mention the dozens of other sites he posted on. I read a article where he made thousands of posts online, but the SPLC only calls out and makes a direct connection in blaming a White Nationalist website in connection to those murders.
He even met his "girlfriend" on a online dating site.
But do they name them?

Pathetic.

This is only the beginning, the jew was named in public at Charlottesville.
The homicidal, genocidal jews will not and cannot allow the truth to get out to the masses.
 
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The attack on Stormfront by the Left took place on Aug. 25th (which is the anniversary of the murder of George Lincoln Rockwell by the way, which tells me the Jews were likely behind it).

The details of why the website was taken down haven't appeared anywhere that I know of aside from some activist left-wing law firm pressuring Stormfront's domain host, which should have carried zero legal weight.

By taking the website down on Friday, they made it difficult for Don Black to react to this. The obvious first step is to get a lawyer to apply some legal pressure on the domain host to honor their business contract.

One big problem is that this could be new legal territory. Most domain hosts collect fees from their clients and there isn't outside pressure for them to kick people out.

It will be interesting to see what happens today. A good lawyer could really put pressure on the domain host, and Stormfront might be back up today. At the very least, their "theft" of Stormfront's web address should be resolved. This is completely illegal. The domain host is acting more like a left-wing activist than a businessman. I wonder if the host was bought up by Soros.
Network Solutions is owned by Web.com - here is their Board of Directors

http://ir.web.com/directors.cfm

And their largest stockholders. Soros Fund Management firm is not listed.

http://investors.morningstar.com/own...jor.html?t=WEB
 
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Jews are a distinct group separate from all others. They are an extremely organized, monolithic, multigenerational, multinational tribal criminal syndicate, all of them, networking, conspiring both openly, and secretly, in their many, many organizations and synogogues, to exploit, rule and ultimately ruin the world. Jews are racial supremacists actively seeking and working toward the absolute subjugation of all races, but most importantly, the total destruction and elimination of the White Race.

Their success is the result of a multifaceted jew takeover of all the various realms of White society, from media to finance, entertainment to medicine, from the law to religion. This entity runs the government and the banks which enables them to commit any crime they like because they appoint all the judges. Their inter-tribal collusion is more thoroughly and specifically exposed by the following list, jews working together, openly or secretly, all of them knowing and doing what's good for jews no matter the destruction they cause to everyone else.

Jews work together as a biased and extremely ethnocentric group. They have a very strong sense of shared identity and paranoia towards outsiders, the goyim. Working together as a united fifth column, jews are always active in information control, financial control, political control, entertainment control, vice promotion, traditional moral destruction and the like. For those who don't realize or can't fathom the extreme power jews hold in the US, please extrapolate the overwhelming power and influence jews hold over us by their networking with their fellow tribesman from each of the following terms:

Government jews, CIA jews, FBI jews, NSA jews, EPA jews, SCOTUS jews, advisor jews, congressional staff jews, policy jews, banking jews, Wall St. jews, Israel first jews, Globalist jews, AIPAC jews, ADL jews, SPLC jews, B'nai Brith jews, holoHOAX jews, zionist jews, war incitement jews, immigration jews, civil rights jews, gun grabber jews, feminism jews, judge jews, lawyer jews, news jews, jounalist jews, publisher jews, author jews, newspaper jews, computer jews, education jews, university jews, professor jews, wikipedia jews, corporate jews, labor union jews, the energy jews, the green jews, the agri-business jews, chemical jews, US patent office jews, entertainment jews, hollywood jews, music industry jews, porno jews, diamond jews, homo jews, paedo jews, pro-sports team owner jews, TV jews, radio jews, internet jews, doctor jews, pharmaceutical jews, abortion jews, insurance jews, white slavery jews, mob jews, religion jews, dual-citizen jews, and finally, the all inclusive LYING JEWS.. You know, those jews, doing what's good for jews to the detriment and for the extermination of the White Race, the driving forces behind open immigration of the turd world, special rights and privileges for minorities that Whites can't access, hate crimes for Whites only, multiracialism, race mixing, abortion of majority (White) babies, Feminism, pornography, perversion, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, Common Core, the destructive counterculture in general, everything fucking up America.
Agreed!
Spot on!
 
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