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Old February 28th, 2020 #1
ColdFire
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Smile @ Donncha Dennis

. . since you recently sent me a PM.
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Growing up in east germany
Hey I think I remember you mentioned growing up in east germany, I recently got into some debates with Russians and of course they have their own as I see biased views, what we must say is communism was at least a attempt at something new even if it was warped by marx, socialism wasn't started by marx but he gets the credit for it. I was wondering how was life in east germany how did the communism affect your life and what were some situations between people and society that you could give strong examples of that showed communism for good or bad?

If you wanted maybe you or I could start a thread on it?


First of all, thank you for your interest

. . but . . sorry , you misread . .

I didn't grow up in Eastern Germany but in Western . .

I found your PM worthy going in deeper though

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. . what we must say is communism was at least a attempt at something new even if it was warped by marx, socialism wasn't started by marx but he gets the credit for it.
. . how I view Communism / Marxism as such . .

It is like some sugar-bread to lure in the workers . .

I made some threads here about Communism / Marxism.

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=551736

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=550637

. . trying to explain what it is , what it aims at etc . .

. . you are right , the original idea of a classless society goes back to the old philosophers of Greece . .
https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=553361

As usual, the NWO uses something which was already contrived , gives it its own flavor , for their own reasons .


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I was wondering how was life in east germany how did the communism affect your life and what were some situations between people and society that you could give strong examples of that showed communism for good or bad?

If you wanted maybe you or I could start a thread on it?
But . . as it happens your concern wasn't for nothing . .As it happens one of my best friends grew up in Eastern Germany . .

What he had to say about that regime . .

It must have been one of the worst regimes on German ground ever.

As Western Germany fell to the Western-Allied after World War 2, Eastern Germany fell to the Bolsheviks . . they got under the yoke of Stalin . .


Stalinism was one of the most extreme directions of Communism.

It was a clever move by the NWO one must say to divide Germany , the nation which tried to resist the NWO so during World War 2 after the war.

After all, officially Germany 'laid between the fronts' of the alledged 'Cold War' . .

Think about it . . Germany tried to resist the NWO , after the war . . divide it , make it located between the fronts , divide its people . .

Clever move by the NWO . .

What can be said about the praxis there , everyday life in the alledged 'German Democratic Republic' ( already , the name 'German Demoncratic Republic' speaks volumes about the lying nature of Communists , it was neither (((German))) nor 'democratic' nor a 'republic' , it was the Russian stalinist occupied one party dictatorship ; that's what communists truly always were good at . . lying )

It must have been a very strict state , all in favor of Moscow ( in this case , by Moscow I mean : The Communist world-movement . .)

One again I have to say : One has to make a distinction between Russia , the Russian people per se and the Communist leadership . .




. . Communism is an NWO-invention. . Russia fell prey to it . .


Well , everyday life in Eastern Germany must have been harsh . . one knows about all the uprisings there , which were smashed by terror . .

It was a one-party-dictatorship . .

The Eastern Germans at that time had lost their fate and were in service of the NWO's attempted 'world revolution' . .

It still bugs me to this day that there once was Communism on German soil.


. . there are whole websites talking about people giving their stories of living under Communist regimes , also from Eastern Germany.

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Hope you found this post useful .

Last edited by ColdFire; February 29th, 2020 at 05:35 PM.
 
Old February 29th, 2020 #2
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From what little knowledge I know there was a radio/tv blackout because the soviets couldn't figure out how to bring radio/television signals to certain parts of germany haha. I have read just one or two books on east germany. I have seen though many of the photos they didn't want to let out, eastern germany looked like a dump with entire streets cracked and sidewalks cracked pot marked old ladies having to careful walk in fear of falling down and breaking their hips. Basic food amenities, grey blob apartment complexes. Stasi watching everyone bugging everyones phone. No anti Russian sentiments allowed. German students sent to Siberia and other parts of Russia as part of cultural exchange programs. Soviets of course taking over the surviving industries of germany like car manufacture and farm equipment. In the end over soviet supervision making 2nd rate products. Of course endless warsaw pact drills german soldiers used as cannon fodder. There were numerous prison camps and anti psychological societal norms imposed on people. All this going on into the 80s.

I wonder how people were able to keep themselves occupied I always wondered if germans smuggled in Das Boot considering it was a 80s movie and probably showed in western germany at the time? Most complaints I here is young germans couldn't find a flat or car to themselves and all products were bland basic and grey no color to them.
 
Old March 10th, 2020 #3
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From what little knowledge I know there was a radio/tv blackout because the soviets couldn't figure out how to bring radio/television signals to certain parts of germany haha. I have read just one or two books on east germany. I have seen though many of the photos they didn't want to let out, eastern germany looked like a dump with entire streets cracked and sidewalks cracked pot marked old ladies having to careful walk in fear of falling down and breaking their hips. Basic food amenities, grey blob apartment complexes. Stasi watching everyone bugging everyones phone. No anti Russian sentiments allowed. German students sent to Siberia and other parts of Russia as part of cultural exchange programs. Soviets of course taking over the surviving industries of germany like car manufacture and farm equipment. In the end over soviet supervision making 2nd rate products. Of course endless warsaw pact drills german soldiers used as cannon fodder. There were numerous prison camps and anti psychological societal norms imposed on people. All this going on into the 80s.

I wonder how people were able to keep themselves occupied I always wondered if germans smuggled in Das Boot considering it was a 80s movie and probably showed in western germany at the time? Most complaints I here is young germans couldn't find a flat or car to themselves and all products were bland basic and grey no color to them.
Oh , believe me, Soviet occupied Eastern Germany must have been one of the worst times Germany ever had , politically ( even though in this case only a part of the Germans are meant ) . . I know it from personal testimonies .


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