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Jews are bad at long range shooting
http://www.geocities.com/mazanga9/ID...rpshooting.htm
Interesting article about Israeli Sniper School. |
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Kikes rechambered an AK-47 to fire the .223 and called it a Galil. The world praised them as master gun creators. OF course the AK came from a German idea.
Any way if kikes could shoot they wouldn't need guns that shoot around corners from close range. They could just shoot the rocks out of the kids hands from across the street.
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The AKM and the German STG-44 do not have a lot in common except for looks. The AKM has a 1 piece receiver, the STG has a 2 piece. The AKM has a rotating bolt , the STG has a tilting bolt. Mechanically they are not alike and the true children of the STG would more likely be the FN-FAL and the G3. It's worth noting that the AKM was 2(!) kilograms lighter. As for German idea, it is not a German idea. The idea of an intermediate round and a tactical idea of a gun that is between a submachine gun and a battle rifle is much older than the STG-44. The first tactical assault rifle was the Fedorov Avtomat http://world.guns.ru/assault/as86-e.htm Which was produced in small numbers but was still used exactly as one would use an assault rifle today. The gun was in use during WW1 and the Civil War. The idea of an intermediate round was not alien in WW2 either as it was realized that most encounters were in the 100-300 m range and thus Russia held a competition in 1943. It wasn't until after the war that Kalashnikov won with his rifle though. Assault rifle design wasn't all that uncommon and many of Russia's gun designers were already working on assault rifles in the late 30's and early 40's. It's not difficult to recall a few - Tokarev, Shpagin, , Sudaev, etc ... All produced many prototypes with the creation of the intermediate 7.62x39 round. Sudaev's design by the way was produced before the STG-44 ever saw the battlefield and its obvious no one in Russia would be aware of the design. Had he not died in 1946 its likely that his design might have been today's ak-47 but instead it would be called AS-44 or whatever year he would finalize his design. You'll notice that 7,62mmx39 is named M43 for the year it was introduced. In conclusion there is no need to call it a "German idea" because the AKM is only inspired by other designs (Just as all technology is) but it is a purely Russian idea wrought from experience and I would recommend that you stop marginalizing the achievement because you look like a fool doing so. Last edited by psychologicalshock; May 30th, 2008 at 04:15 PM. |
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First you are a botanist and now you are a weapons expert. Wow you really get around, google that is. M.K ripped off the Germans, even if the internal workings were different. I am not cutting down the AK but I want to give credit where it is due. And while we are on the subject the kikes did rip off the A.K idea and called it their own. I really don’t trust any article that throws around the term “assault rifle” because what is a rifle for? Anyway you contend that medium caliber and range guns were around before the S.G. If I built a gun based on the Vulcan gun design I am ripping that guy off even though the Gatling gun has been around much longer. which I will acknowledge. However I am saying that M.K got his idea after seeing the German weapon, which you haven’t debunked.
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My only comment is simple - if he actually had the gun in his hands why reinvent the wheel? Why create a completely different mechanism that does not simulate the operation of what he had right before him? What would he gain from seeing it ? The M43 rounds already existed so the intermediate bullet wasn't needed, it seems the design wasn't needed either . To me, it makes so little sense that it would take direct evidence for me to give the idea any merit. Last edited by psychologicalshock; May 31st, 2008 at 03:14 AM. |
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In my opinion the AK while not as flat shooting as German and even Stoner’s designs is still a superior weapon. Russia fought in several climates ranging from the extreme cold of Siberia to the deserts of Afghanistan. The AK was and is suited for any climate and condition. German guns with tight tolerances are accurate but not reliable during extreme climate changes and hardcore combat. At 100 yards unless you are shooting competition the calibers are close enough in trajectory while the AK (7.62) round has much more knock down. Why reinvent the caliber, because Russia wanted it’s own caliber and I think the AK caliber is better. The Russians came up with their version of the .223 and chambered AK’s for it as well. I have seen the weapon and caliber in action and I thought it was horrible even though the Russians adopted it for a lot of weapons. The more logical question would be to ask why they did that. A reason I would think they changed the caliber is that Russia was more equipped to produce the 7.62 round.
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Here's a test on how far either round pierced AK-74 goes significantly further (And veers off) The reason they did it is because the latest guns built on the technology are both good at piercing armor and firing at long range This gun has an effective range of 1000 http://world.guns.ru/assault/as07-e.htm Quote:
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Since you apparently don’t know anything about bullets here is something that may save your life. The more powerful the round the less damage it does up close. If you ever went deer hunting you would know that a strong say 7MM magnum won’t instantly kill a deer in most shots at 100 yards because it is traveling so fast it hasn’t had time to expand and goes through the deer leaving a small pencil sized hole. They die eventually but it takes a couple days. You can take the much smaller .243 caliber and it will knock a deer flat dead on impact. Up close you need a round designed for up close, one that will expand in the distance you are shooting, or at least tumble. Quote:
Now stop trusting google and get out and actually shoot the freaking guns. BTW can you strip an AR or AK down to the last screw? How about a Cetme or FAL? If not then you don’t need to be in this discussion. BTW you have taken the focus away from the kikes. Good job, your jewish masters must be proud.
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The article speaks for itself - the Israeli forces are worthless and do not even have a whiff of discipline. If you hadn't made the incorrect comment I wouldn't even have bothered replying. I would have simply bookmarked the site and left. |
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