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Guillaume Faye and Greg Johnson are both opposed to narrowing down what the word Holocaust (or Shoah as they say in Europe) is supposed to mean so that it can be asked rationally whether this essence of the Holocaust Myth is true or false:
Faye: What discredits revisionism is the way it has attempted to make a technical dispute over the execution gas chambers an indefensible dispute over the Shoah itself. [Faye, The New Jewish Question, p. 195]Johnson: Claiming that the Holocaust did not happen on the basis of a strict definition of the term (the plan to kill all Jews) strikes ordinary people as morally obtuse quibbling about definitions.... Even if the genocidal intent, the gas chambers, etc. go the way of human soap and lampshades, that fact [that countless innocent Jews lost their lives] is never going to disappear.... Faye and Johnson agree that all that fancy logical thinking isn't worth a hoot. Faye: […] what are [revisionists] disputing? Only that the means employed were gas chambers, or the process of attempted extermination itself? The deportations of Jews to concentration camps? What is it that didn’t exist? On what semantic level was the lie they’re claiming, and where, exactly, is the dividing line between reality and deception? Can one believe there were no anti-Jewish persecutions? (Faye, The New Jewish Question, p. 264) Johnson: Holocaust death totals are never going to be revised to zero. In a war in which countless innocent people of all nations died, countless innocent Jews surely died as well, and ultimately that’s all the Holocaust needs to survive. The gas chambers, the genocidal intent, and the rest of it could be dropped, but poor little Anne Frank and many others like her would still be dead. You may recognize the part of Johnson's argument that some wish to blame on Jared Taylor in Faye's essay Ethnomasochism: (It is) the masochistic tendency to regard with a sense of guilt and a sense of worthlessness one’s own ethnic group, one’s own people. Greggy published Michael O'Meara's review of Faye's anti-revisionist book in August of last year. From O'Meara's review, we see the clear origin of Greggy's genius idea of calling Hitler "Old Right" and himself "New Right," and pretending that the past can be simply disowned: ”Faye thus joins those nationalists who seek “freedom from history" in order to pursue anti-immigrant politics without being associated with the demobilizing tags of anti-Semitism, Nazism, and extremism, dismissing, in effect, the contention that it is the anathematization of these earlier expressions of European being that empowers and legitimatizes the system’s anti-European policies. It is beyond doubt that Johnson derived inspiration from this scumbag. (Faye has performed in pornographic films.)
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It is also a crucial factor in the Eastern European economy. Greek mining and harbours/shipping/warehousing and transporting are critical for food and fuel distribution throughout Eastern Europe and for Turkey, which depends on Eastern European raw materials. If Greece collapses, so does the Balkan economy, and the Balkans will explode. That will affect Turkey, trade between Asia and Europe via the Black sea and Mediterranean, and north Africa, Europe and Asia, and would cause economic collapse in many smaller countries. If the Serbs then moved to recover Kosovo, as they would need to if they were to survive, Albania would go to war with Serbia, and NATO, Russia, Germany, Turkey and the US would all become involved. If Turkey was badly affected, they could not assist the US in Iraq anymore, nor keep down the Kurds in Turkey, which would need to withdraw troops from Iraq, as would the US. Iraq would then split into three and Turkey would face civil war as the nations spread across the Turk/Iraq border began to unite and form new countries. Quote:
They have the critical mass of support, which is what is needed, though they won't have it for much longer unless they reign in their members behaviour and rhetoric. The support for GD has declined rapidly after the TV incident, their holocaust statements and general behaviour and the media campaign against them. In the May election, they won 21 seats. In the June election they lost 3 seats, to get 18. That's a rounded off 15 percent drop in votes for GD within one month. Goodwill means nothing if it doesn't translate into votes. Parties need the support of trade unions, the church and the civil service to get into government. The food drive will not gain them these peoples support or financial contributions. Having spent their parliamentary funds, unless they have other money coming in, they will soon begin to run short for salaries, office rental and expenses, promotional material etc The US backed pro EU Greek government will wait a while till GD start to experience financial problems, which they will do as the several court cases against them start in the next couple months. Then just before the next elections, they'll hit them with a series of major lawsuits about racism, antisemitism etc, in order to get them to spend their election funds on lawyers and cases, be demonised in the press, and so lose more support. People rarely vote for parties they like, they vote for parties they think are likely to win. GD should stick to what works, being pro-Greek and anti-Eu. Quote:
and you think that atheist organisations give out more food on a large scale than religious ones. Care to name some of these atheist organisations and charities? Christian churches have been running food drives for around 2000 years. For how many centuries has the atheist food drive been running, and in how many towns and cities across the world do atheists provide food daily? Quote:
Jews ran the USSR, ran the socialist and communist movements worldwide, and helped finance and implement socialist and communist policies to a greater or lesser degree in 70 countries over the last century, including China. Quote:
Athens, Thebes, Crete, Mycenae, Byzantium - these are great Greek states and empires which made enduring contributions. Robbing, stealing and murdering, which was all Spartans did, are not contributions. Quote:
There's no such notion, certainly not in any government, and it's never been a matter of principle. All modern economies are regulated, and getting ever more regulated. Quote:
One cannot gain political success by taking on Jews, no-on cares about the Holocaust, and no-one wants NS. Should you ever actually try to implement your ideas in reality, you will learn this too. People don't dislike NS because of the Jews, they dislike NS because they don't like highly centralised governments, don't like dictatorships, don't like people who want to enslave them, and don't like people who massacre them. Europeans don't dislike Germans because of the Jews. They dislike them because nation after nation out of Germany and Scandinavia such as Goths, Vandals, Franks, Saxons, Vikings have invaded the rest of Europe since Rome fell, plundering, looting and massacring, and keeping most of Europe backward, undeveloped and on the verge of starvation. Germans from Germany and the German Franks in France have fought each other for 1200 years, over control of the central third of Charlemagne's empire, where the major mines are. Germany and France recover quickly within a generation or two, as they are large countries, with large reserves, and then invade again. Since the 1300's the Teutonic knights have massacred the Slavs and invaded the Baltic states. The Austrians invaded and took over a huge portion of central and Eastern Europe. Austrians, Prussians and Russians invaded Poland and divided it between them in the late 1700's, massacring the Poles and forcing them to convert to whatever religion the state that conquered them held to. Then each of the three brought in masses of their own nations to settle in Poland, driving Poles off the best land. The Poles fought for over a century, only getting their country back at the end of WW 1. Then the Poles stated taking revenge for a century of horror, and drove the Austrians, Russians and Prussians out of Poland, which was used by the three as an excuse to invade Poland again. During the 1800's, Europe once again experienced famine and war as Prussia and Austria and Germany battled it out over control of Germany, eventually Prussia took the Protestant two thirds, Austria the catholic southern third. Then Europe has WW1, and then WW 2. Germany handed Eastern Europe over to the Jews. Tens of millions have died across Europe as a result, and most of Central Europe has been unable to develop, as every generation or two, either France or Germany will invade, rob them and kill them. In WW 1, 12 million Europeans died, 20 million died from Spanish flu shortly thereafter, then 50 million died in WW 2. Do you seriously think Europeans care if Germans feel sad? What do you think other Europeans feel about 1200 years of neverending warfare, and what does Eastern Europe feel about being given by Germany to the USSR to live in horror for 45 years? Most Eastern Europeans hate Germany with a passion, and want to see Germany and all Germans burnt to ashes. Most European nations are small, with few reserves. They are still battling to recover. Germans have the highest standard of living in Europe. Neither they or France are suffering at all. The countries caught up between them still lie in ruins, with generations of men dead, and nations that have seen nothing but war, famine and epidemics since 1914. That's why NS is such a stupid system to try to promote, especially since so many in the US recently arrived from Europe. Other Europeans look at them and remember their cities being bombed, families killed, they see orphans, widows, famine and epidemics. Neo nazis are lucky they have the police to protect them. Most Europeans, given the chance, would kill neo nazis on the spot. You have no concept of European history, nor of what struggle is, nor of what it is about. Lazing around languidly in your middle class suburb, you know nothing of what nationalism is. You have a home, water, food, energy, there are no armies marching on you. Your town is not in flames, you aren't refuges fleeing across fields as planes gun you down, you aren't sleeping in ditches, or being beaten to death, or put in gulags. Nationalism is a matter of life or death, not a hobby. Put aside your foolishness and grow up. You NS people are a millstone around the neck of WN.
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Some 'technical' dispute. If one party says the main basis of a charge didn't actually exist, that is a little more than a technical dispute. One is astonished how ready these men are to accede in outrageous charges made by the main enemy. Especially when that charge is used as the basis for moral attack on whites they claim we're extraordinarily susceptible to. They really seem to believe whites have an urge-to-guilt that has nothing to do with evidence. Their position is wrong factually, politically and in every other way. Quote:
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It is astonishing that ostensibly pro-White men accede to these lies. There is no political or factual reason to do so, and every political and factual reason to fight them, especially when you consider the nature of the accuser and his own behavior. It is clear that, insofar as 'the' 'holocaust' is concerned, Faye and Johnson are driven by personal interests rather than what's good for Whites. Quote:
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If jews lead communism, and communists are throwing putsches across Germany en route, they hope, to complete takeover followed by atrocities as they have just visited on Russia, then is there really no better term for effective resistance's handling of the jewish problem than "persecution." Sweet Jesus, with friends like these we don't need enemies. Why so willing to throw good White men -- engaged in the same task we are -- under the bus? How would you read this if you were the enemy? I'd read it as complete gutless cowardice. Quote:
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What kind of a man, an intellectual, runs from a fight when the facts are on his side? The answer must sadly be: Guillaume Faye does. Greg Johnson, too. Quote:
http://www.amren.com/features/2012/0...ical-altruism/ so if your implication is that Faye rather than Johnson is the source, I doubt it. Taylor has been promoting whites-as-biologically-flawed for as long as he's been around. The sickest sight in White nationalism is listening to that oily WASP ivy-southern fuck grease on about how we just don't know why whites are acting this way. Taylor is a liar, plain and simple. The Southern 90s can't figure him out, but I can place him in a nanosecond. Who cares anyway? Johnson's position is taken by Faye as well as Taylor, as you've demonstrated. What matters is the position is wrong. The monstrous imposture that these putzes are on our side when they're taking the same position as our worst enemy, and shaming the memory of our most valiant defenders, is enough to make a grown man puke. Quote:
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You're talking completely out your ass. Nothing new about libertards inventing false history as needed.
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What's your real motive, Hugh? It's not objective analysis. Quote:
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Germans hated? You English would like to think so. The problem is that even bigots like you in the English press inevitably end up, upon visiting Germany, by admitting it is superior to England in virtually every way. To say that Germans are hated is ridiculous. Even with 24/7/365 propaganda against them, Germany is universally respected as a country, and Germans are universally seen as good people to have as neighbors. By contrast, English are seen as illiterate, drunken hooligans and buffoons. And the ceremonies at the Olympics have furthered that perception. Quote:
You're simply another English bigot lying about your betters, Hugh. Haven't your people caused enough misery in the 20th century? Isn't it about time you focused on cleaning up your barbaric sandbar rather than maligning your betters? Quote:
You're just an English bigot, Hugh. Your kind is the reason Europe is in the pitiful shape it is today, and you keep on with the same garbage. Quote:
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"What are the Germans like?" "Efficient" comes up over and over.
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Most Eastern Europeans hate Germany with a passion, and want to see Germany and all Germans burnt to ashes. That's a big lie. Why are you lying, Hugh? Unquote As for me Hugh you are done, well done now. Next !
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How many ethnic Germans attempting to get compensation from the czech government are you related to ? Even in modern corrupted Germany the slavs do not invade there the Germans will not entertain it and have various barriers to stop them being recruited and deployed as employees.The slavs get on buses an travel right across the most successful economy in europe to get to the UK with its lax controls on welfare and employment.It is to be noted that when German companies recruited for mercedes's Stuttgart rebuild in the UK no foreign born UK citizens were eligible.It may suit "melting pot" Americans to believe that the Germans love slavs the reality is very different.In fact for decades the only eastern europeans one encountered in Germany were Latvians,Estonians an Lithuanians distinguished by the fact that they are German and not slav.
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Let's say that some guy runs over your dog. You take him to civil court. In your filing, you claim that he ran over your dog in a late model gray sedan. The guy's lawyer argues he is not guilty, because you accused him or running over your dog in a late model gray sedan, when in fact he ran over your dog in a late model gray two-door coupe. Besides, he was driving his pregnant wife to the hospital, and your dog should not have been off leash, and plenty of people's dogs die, so what makes yours so special? You object that your dog is still dead, but the lawyer argues that since no-dog-was-killed-with-a-late-model-gray-sedan, your case should be dismissed as a hoax. The judge slams his gavel and dismisses your case. "B-b-but my dog is still dead . . ." you stammer as the courtroom empties out.
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The historical Jew still has a negative image that has only been brought back to the fore of many minds by the recent and current financial crises. Generations of people in the West still know what one means when accusing, "You jewed me out of that," for example. With this in mind, Jews are rightly concerned that the breakdown of the premise for their extortion racket can spread very quickly among the masses; hence the constant mind-screwing of the consumer by The Hitler Channel and various other attempts in the print and broadcast media. The exposure of the Holocaust hoax is no small wonder for most people. The responses I have received are typically ones of amazement. Lastly, if one wishes to propagate this revelation, the criticism of traditional Western culture is counter-productive; which is exactly what one does when attacking Christianity. Israel-loving evangelicals deserve it. Real practitioners of the faith do not. In fact, exposure of the Holocaust racket and consequent revelations should prompt, once more, a theological reconsideration of jewry. Last edited by M. Issig; August 6th, 2012 at 05:27 AM. Reason: sp. |
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The history of Britain, or at least the epoch of empire, is in sore need of revision. The Brits have been under the Jewish thumb for roundly two centuries. They have waged war, battled and died in great numbers over policy-making designed by a Parliament under heavy influence of Jewish financial and political interests. Montefiore, Montagu, Cassel, Goldsmid, Sassoon, Eliason, ... the list goes on. The die for the future was cast, once the "special relationship" between Britain and the US was achieved in the immediate wake of WW I, maintained among others by the establishment of the Council On Foreign Relations. That WW II and Churchill destroyed the British Empire was really of no consequnce to these people; their Anglo-American syndicate had long been established. It might be considered historically odd that any nation should ally itself so resolutely with another against whose dominion it had revolted violently and won, was attacked by it once more and won (in 1815), and was assailed again by a variety of covert means less than 50 years later. One might also wonder, if just a little, how greatly Britain and its Jewish aristocracy were angered by the Russian Czar anchoring battle fleets for extended periods in New York and San Francisco during the American Civil War. (Note: That same Czar, Alexander II, was later murdered by a small group of assassins that included Vladimir Lenin's older brother.) Last edited by M. Issig; August 6th, 2012 at 06:22 AM. Reason: sp. |
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2) The analogy fails if there is no dead dog, and that's exactly what revisionists argue. The vast bulk of jews emigrated. You really seem to believe that if one member of the tribe that created and spread communism died during WWII, the jews are fully entitled to run around screeching "Holocaust!" for the next 1,000 years. |
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Here we have this great weapon, and we're afraid to use it. Why? The only explanation lies outside politics. Johnson and the people he associates with, or listens to at least, have calculated they can dip into middle-class pockets by going along with the Big Lie, and distancing themselves from any thought of any form of resistance but essay-writing. Last edited by Alex Linder; August 6th, 2012 at 11:12 AM. |
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