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Old October 28th, 2013 #61
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Jew Communist Butcher Béla Biszku arrested in Hungary

Sept. 11, 2012


Kike monster Béla Biszku and his tribe raped and murdered Hungarians.

Since the nationalist element has strengthened itself in Hungary and manifested in the politics thanks to parties like Jobbik, we have seen considerable improvements on their soil. Jew-controlled BBC reports with sorrow and defeat: ”Hungary 1956 counter-revolutionary Bela Biszku arrested”. The same Jews and Jew-lovers in Britain will high-five and joyously explode whenever they illegally capture and kidnap a National Socialist freedom-fighter in order to sentence him falsely in the Talmudic Sanhedrin court in “Israel”.

For all enemy Jews and traitors, whether spreading false propaganda in the mass-media or engaging in countless other subversive activities all across the planet, JewishProblem.com will hereby provide imagery of your soon-to-be fate:

Hungarians rose up against the occupying communist Jews in 1956 and punished them severely.

Source: BBC: “Hungary 1956 counter-revolutionary Bela Biszku arrested” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19546237

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The Ten Worst Purveyors of Antisemitism Worldwide, #6: The Jobbik Party
Fascist “spirits” alive and well in today’s Hungary.

by P. David Hornik
October 27, 2013 - 8:00 am



I think now is the time to tally up how many people of Jewish ancestry there are here, and especially in the Hungarian parliament and the Hungarian government, who, indeed, pose a national security risk for Hungary.

Those words were spoken in the Hungarian parliament on November 27, 2012, by Márton Gyöngyösi, an MP of the neo-Nazi Jobbik Party.

As The Economist noted at the time:

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Lists have a terrible resonance for Hungary’s Jews. When the Nazis invaded in March 1944 they used the lists of members of the Jewish community to organise one of the swiftest and most efficient episodes of the Holocaust. With the ready assistance of Hungarian officials and the Gendarmerie 430,000 Jews were deported to Auschwitz in a few weeks, most to their deaths. On some days the gas chambers and crematoria processed more than 1,000 people an hour.
Yet the government of the ruling conservative Fidesz Party only gave what The Economist called a “lacklustre response.” True, Gyöngyösi’s words sparked a protest demonstration in front of parliament on December 2 with speeches from politicians across the spectrum. Yet it took Fidesz prime minister Viktor Orbán until December 3 to finally say in parliament that Gyöngyösi’s statement was “unworthy of Hungary”—hardly a stinging condemnation.

And the reason for such gingerness is that Jobbik—now Hungary’s third largest party, having won 17 percent of the vote in the 2010 elections—is too popular. Politicians, particularly on the conservative side of the spectrum, compete for its votes and don’t want to denounce it too sharply.

As for Gyöngyösi, he gave a partial retraction, saying that “only” those Jews with dual Hungarian-Israeli citizenship should be put on his list of security threats and that he “apologise[d] to my Jewish compatriots for my equivocal statement.”

Yet last May Gyöngyösi was back in form, saying Hungary had become “subjugated to Zionism…a target of colonisation while we, the indigenous people, can play only the role of extras.”

The 35-year-old Gyöngyösi is “a far cry from the stereotype of the ultra-right skinhead or boot-boy. He is well-dressed, articulate, speaks fluent English and is the son of a diplomat….”

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Old October 28th, 2013 #63
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Vona calls for “clean” general election at Jobbik congress
By MTI

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The radical nationalist Jobbik party wants a “clean” general election next year with parties’ programmes competing against each other instead of votes being bought, party leader Gabor Vona told a Jobbik congress on Saturday.

Vona told the tenth party congress for the election of officials in Budapest that his party wants to improve public safety, job creation, boost the economy, establish accountability and cancel lawmakers’ immunity.

Commenting on a recent interim local election in Baja, he said it revealed that each side was involved in cheating.

He said the issue of public safety in Hungary is closely linked to “Roma-Hungarian coexistence.”

“We say that crime has no colour but if we visit a prison, we will see that 90 percent of the criminals are coloured,” Vona said. Jobbik has no problem with anyone just because they have different colour of skin or a different culture, but it is a problem if they feel they are not obliged to keep social norms just because they are Roma, he added.

Vona said if Jobbik enters power, they will publish the list of lawmakers who have dual citizenship and will make public any support received by civilians and parties from abroad in order to reveal “who really controls Hungary.”

The congress elected Vona the party’s prime minister candidate.

He told the press that Jobbik was representing people who had become disillusioned in the Socialists, as well as in Fidesz. He added that he wanted to participate in a debate with the other prime minister candidates to allow everyone present an image for the future they offer to the country. Vona said a significant part of Hungarian society had become “hostages” taken by the Socialists and Fidesz because these parties’ supporters fear of the other side’s victory. As a result, the debate is not about who can offer a better future but the campaign has become “an agony taken hostage by fear,” he added.

In response to a question, Vona said Jobbik would not enter a coalition agreement with any other party. He said his first trip abroad in the capacity of prime minister candidate would take him to Szekler land on Saturday evening.

The congress re-elected party director Gabor Szabo to board chairman. Szabo said he would not run either on a list or in an individual constituency at the 2014 election.
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Old October 28th, 2013 #64
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Angus is raising a young family and is a dedicated nationalist but because he's related through marriage to NG he's "useless" the obsession you have with NG is bordering on the ridiculous Mr less bollocks that a woman in brum .
Please keep your trolling to the UK section we've got used to it , don't try to infect the whole forum with what is clearly some sort of sexual deviant hang up you have with NG .
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Old October 28th, 2013 #65
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Khazars were instrumental in the creation of the Magyar homeland of Hungary.
Hungarian rulers were always referred to as "Princes of the Turks".



The Kabars or Khavars were Khalyzians, Turkic Khazar people who joined the Magyar confederation in the 9th century.

The Kabars consisted of three Khazar tribes who rebelled against the Khazar Khaganate some time in the ninth century; the rebellion was notable enough to be described in Constantine Porphyrogenitus's work De Administrando Imperio. Subsequently the Kabars were expelled from the Khazar Khaganate and sought refuge by joining the Magyar tribal confederacy called Hét-Magyar (meaning "seven Hungarians.") The three Kabar tribes accompanied the Magyar invasion of Pannonia and the subsequent formation of the Principality of Hungary in the late 9th century.

It is thought to have been the Alano-As and Oğuric Turkic tribes, who were numerically superior within Khazaria.

Around 833 the Hungarian tribal confederacy was living in Levedia, between the Don and the Dnieper rivers, within the orbit of the Khazar empire. Russian chronicles, commenting on the role of the Khazars in the magyarization of Hungary, refer to them as "White Oghurs" and Magyars as "Black Ogurs.

Many Turkic nations had a similar division between a "white" ruling warrior caste and a "black" class of commoners.

The proto-Hungarian Pontic tribe, while perhaps threatening Khazaria as early as 839, developed its institutional models, such as the dual rule of a ceremonial kende-kündü and a gyula administering practical and military administration, under Khazar tutelage. A dissident group of Khazars, the Qabars, joined the Hungarians in their flight from the Pechenegs as they moved into Pannonia. Elements within the Hungarian population can be viewed as perpetuating Khazar traditions as a successor state. Byzantine sources refer to Hungary as Western Tourkia in contrast to Khazaria, Eastern Tourkia. The gyula line produced the kings of medieval Hungary through descent from Árpád, while the Qabars retained their traditions longer, and were known as “black Hungarians” (fekete magyarság). Some archeological evidence from Čelarevo suggests the Qabars practiced Judaism.

Christian of Stavelot in his Expositio in Matthaeum Evangelistam (ca.860-870s) refers to Khazars as descendants of Gog and Magog, who were circumcised and observed all the laws of Judaism.

Persian historian Ibn al-Faqîh wrote that 'all the Khazars are Jews, but they have been Judaized recently'. Ibn Fadlân, based on his Caliphal mission (921-922) to the Volga Bulğars, also reported that 'the core element of the state, the Khazars, were Judaized'.

A tradition of the Iranian Judeo-Tats claims that their ancestors were responsible for the Khazar conversion.

Solomon (Hungarian: Salamon; 1053 – 1087) was King of Hungary.

A popular, if in academic terms minoritarian, thesis holds that the Khazar Jewish population went into a northern diaspora and had a significant impact on the rise of Ashkenazi Jews. Connected to this thesis is the theory, expounded by linguist Paul Wexler, that the grammar of Yiddish contains a Khazar substrate (
Knaanic_language Knaanic_language
).

Several scholars have suggested that the Khazars did not disappear after the dissolution of their Empire, but migrated West to eventually form part of the core of the later Ashkenazi Jewish population of Europe.

In 1909 Hugo von Kutschera developed the notion into a book-length study, arguing Khazars formed the foundational core of the modern Ashkenazi.


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Usual tactic ! avoid any explanation as to why you felt the need attacked an active young nationalist take your fetish back to the UK section mr less balls than a woman in Brum .
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Poll: support for Fidesz, Jobbik slightly down, for E14-PM, DK slightly up

By MTI

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Support for ruling Fidesz and opposition radical nationalist Jobbik dropped slightly this month, whereas increased a bit for the E14-PM electoral alliance and the leftist Democratic Coalition (DK), pollster Tarki said on Wednesday.

Preference for Fidesz and its allied Christian Democrats among decided voters dropped slightly, from September’s 52 percent to 49 percent, whereas stayed unchanged for the main opposition Socialists at 20 percent, Tarki’s mid-Ocotber poll of 1,000 voting age adults showed.

Support in this group for radical nationalist Jobbik declined from previous month’s 16 percent to 13 percent, but went up for ex-premier Gordon Bajnai’s E14-PM electoral alliance from 6 percent to 9 percent and for DK from 4 percent to 5 percent, according to the poll. Small opposition LMP in this group stayed at 3 percent.

Among all voters Fidesz-KDNP’s backing stayed unchanged at 27 percent and the Socialists’ inched up only one point to 11 percent.

In this camp, support for E14-PM went up two points to 5 percent, for DK one point to 3 percent and for LMP also one point to 2 percent. Jobbik here lost one point and stood at 7 percent.

Tarki noted that the proportion of unaligned voters dropped from September’s 49 percent to 45 percent.

The poll was conducted on Oct.16-23.

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Gábor Vona held a presentation at Marmara University in Istanbul - Turks support the Székelys' struggle for autonomy

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In his Facebook entry Gábor Vona writes: “I held a presentation at Marmara University in Istanbul. The atmosphere was indescribable. Hundreds of students and teachers attended the lecture. Organizers told me that hundreds of people stuck outside. The love I've received from my hosts was quite amazing, I was celebrated like a star. In my lecture, I have asked my audience to support the Székely cause because the Székelys are also Atilla's grandchildren. At the end of the forum the Dean of the University gave me a plaque."
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Gábor Vona held a presentation at Marmara University in Istanbul - Turks support the Székelys' struggle for autonomy


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We can clearly state that Jobbik is an open enemy of Golden Dawn, and it isn't just because of their stance on occupied northern Cyprus





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Gábor Vona: The future of Eurasia will be based on traditions

Jobbik's president Gábor Vona held his first lecture in Turkey, at Sakarya University near Istambul.


Gábor Vona is presenting four lectures and conducting discussion forums at well-known Turkish universities: he was at Sakarya yesterday, today he's going to Istambul's Marmara University, tomorrow is for Bilecik near Bursa, then Istambul University on Saturday.

Last night around three hundred people attended his lecture on the common Turkish-Hungarian future at Sakarya, 200 kilometres from Istambul. Sakarya University has been conducting significant research activities in Turanic studies. In his lecture, Gábor Vona pointed out that he had come to Turkey in order to discuss the future of Turkish-Hungarian friendship and the opportunities lying therein.

Vona also mentioned that "some European countries and especially the nations of Asia still preserve a lot of the universal human traditions. This universal value base must be adjusted to and harmonized with the challenges of our age so that the power of the past and the challenges of the future create synergies instead of tensions.
In order to build up such a value system and strategy we need to be able to integrate the essence of the European as well as the Asian mentality. The practical European and the profound Eastern approach need to shape us together. I can see three nations, countries that may be able to do so. The two great powers of Eurasia, Russia and Turkey, and my own homeland, Hungary. These three nations are European and Asian at the same time, due to their history, fate and disposition. These nations are destined to present the Eurasian alternative."

Regarding Turkish-Hungarian relations, Jobbik's president pointed out that we were brotherly nations and neither religious nor earlier historical oppositions can dissuade any of us from this idea. In the future, Turkey must be the country with which we need to have more than just closer diplomatic or business relations:

‘I did not come here to improve temporal diplomatic and business relations, other people will do so; I came here to meet my brothers and sisters, to offer a brotherly alliance and to bring you the message: Hungarians are awakening! This is our common mission and the universal task of Turanism: to build a bridge between East and West, Muslim and Christian and struggle together for a better world. We must show that Christians and Muslims are not enemies but brothers. Perhaps none else than us Hungarians and Turks are able to do that; but we are, because we are connected by our common blood.’
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Is Vona going to lobby for more Turkish rights in Germany if Jobbik gain power? It is only logical.
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BUDAPEST, Hungary — Hungary's far-right Jobbik party unveiled a statue of wartime leader Miklos Horthy, who presided over the country's alliance with Nazi Germany, in Budapest on Sunday, sparking protests and highlighting concerns about anti-Semitism in the country.

About a thousand Hungarians took to the streets of the capital to denounce the statue while the mayor of central Budapest and parliamentary leader of the ruling Fidesz party, Antal Rogan, warned the bust would provide an excuse to paint an unfair picture of extremism in Hungary.
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Strange Bedfellows: Hungarian Far-Right Jobbik Party Embraces Muslim Nations, Seeks 'Eurasian' Ideal Of Statehood

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The seemingly strange link between the European far right and Islam emerged again recently over reports that Gábor Vona, the chairman of Hungary's ultra-nationalist Jobbik party, praised Muslims during a visit to Turkey and called for his country to reposition its foreign policy eastward.

The Morocco World News reported in early November that Vona even told a Turkish university audience that “Islam is the last hope for humanity in the darkness of globalism and liberalism.” On a speaking tour of Turkish colleges, Vona also highlighted Hungary's ethnic and blood links with the Turks, recalling the once-enormous Ottoman Empire which conquered Hungary and stretched as far west as Vienna. “We’re not coming to Turkey to build diplomatic and economic relations, but to meet our Turkish brothers and sisters,” Vona declared, according to Islametinfo.fr. Vona praised the personal friendships he has enjoyed from various Muslims throughout his life, including a Palestinian who attended his wedding as a guest.

He also threw down the gauntlet by making a sharp distinction between his views on foreign policy and those of other Western nations. “The West does not tolerate seeing my party support Turkey and other Turanian peoples, such as Azerbaijanis, in international conflicts.”

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[Turanians refer to an allegedly mythical people who originated somewhere in Central Asia and migrated westward thousands of years ago. Many Turkish nationalists believe they are descended from these peoples and dream of forming a new Pan-Turanian empire stretching from Asia to Europe.]
In addition, Vona separated himself from other far-right European leaders who generally disdain Muslims, particularly Turks, who now form significant ethnic minority communities in several Western European states. “Africa has no power... South-America [suffers] from perplexed identity due to their much congested societies,” Vona said on his party's website. “Considering all this, there’s only one culture left which seeks to preserve its traditions: It is the Islamic world.”

In a broader context, Vona suggested that a nationalistic, conservative society founded on both European and Asian (Eurasian) principles would comprise ideal statehood, in stark contrast to the neoliberal, multicultural, consumerist Western countries, which he perceives as trapped in a hopeless and perhaps irreversible decline. “We have been urging... the improvement of ... relations with Russia, China, India, Central Asia and the Muslim world,” he said on his website.

Vona claimed that the conservative, traditional societies of Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Asia treasure family, faith, patriotism and their ancient cultures, in contrast to the West, particularly the U.S., which he accuses of sinking into moral and spiritual decay. "Some European countries and especially the nations of Asia still preserve a lot of the universal human traditions,” he told a Turkish college audience. “We need to be able to integrate the essence of the European as well as the Asian mentality. The practical European and the profound Eastern approach need to shape us together.”

Vona proposed that three modern states already embody this confluence of cultures – Russia, Turkey and his own Hungary. “These three nations are European and Asian at the same time, due to their history, fate and disposition,” he said. “These nations are destined to present the Eurasian alternative." Vona said Turanism can help create a powerful alternative to the decadent and weakening West. "'This is our common mission and the universal task of Turanism: to build a bridge between East and West, Muslim and Christian and struggle together for a better world,” he declared. “We must show that Christians and Muslims are not enemies but brothers. Perhaps none else than us Hungarians and Turks are able to do that; but we are, because we are connected by our common blood.”

Founded only 10 years ago, Jobbik – which means "Movement for a Better Hungary" -- espouses strong opposition to immigration and carries a particularly virulent strain of anti-Semitism and homophobia, but cannot be dismissed as a lunatic fringe organization of misfits. Indeed, in the recent Hungarian parliamentary elections, the party snagged one-sixth of the popular vote, granting them 47 out of the 386 seats in the National Assembly, making Jobbik the third-largest party in Hungary (only France's far-right National Front of Marine Le Pen performed better at the polls, among right-wing extremist parties on the continent).

Dr. Dieter Dettke, an adjunct professor at Georgetown University in Washington and a former Woodrow Wilson Center Scholar, who has conducted extensive research on Jobbik, told International Business Times that the party’s core supporters comprise both the younger generation and the better educated, and that they are primarily motivated by nationalism as well as by a desire to lash out against the status quo.

On his website, Vona admits that some members of his party adhere to anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic and anti-immigration views, but no more so than members and supporters of both Hungary's ruling Fidesz party of Prime Minister Viktor Orban or the country's mainstream Socialists, MSZP. He also declared Islam is the most able force that can resist the “unipolar” world order advocated by the United States. Vona conceded that most other far-right parties in Europe do not share his passion for Islam. "Obviously, in countries such as Austria or France that are suffering from the problem of immigration, [it is] very difficult [for them] to consider the Islamic world as an ally in the struggle against globalism,” he said. “I can understand their anger. But they also need to understand that based on the behavior of [some]… the entire Islamic community of half a billion can't be judged.”

Vona also cautioned that he is not calling for the mass conversion of Christians to Islam, nor does he necessarily support further immigration of Muslims into Europe. In a December 2010 interview, Vona expressed neither endorsement nor opposition to Turkey’s long-denied application into the European Union, but assured that he didn't fear its ramifications, citing that the Turks now enjoy a buoyant economy and powerful military. “Immigration needs to be regulated to make sure that we don’t end up where Germany is, but besides this, the Turkish membership [in the EU] wouldn’t pose any danger for us, but the exact opposite,” he said. “In my view, we could gain a key ally in Turkey against certain European groups under the influence of the American-Israeli lobby. One thing seems certain, Turkey could be Hungary’s key ally.” (Interestingly, Vona himself wants Hungary to leave the EU, describing financial dependence upon Brussels as a kind of colonialism and even “enslavement.”)

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported that Vona has also reached out to the Muslim nation of Iran. Not surprisingly, Jobbik has praised Iran's strident anti-Zionism while condemning Western sanctions against Tehran over its nuclear program and allegations of sponsoring state terrorism. “The Persian people and their leaders are considered pariahs in the eyes of the West, which serves Israeli interests,” said Marton Gyongyosi, Jobbik’s foreign policy chief. “This is why we have solidarity with the peaceful nation of Iran and turn to her with an open heart.” (Gyongyosi is notorious for having called for the registration of Hungarian Jews, describing them as a potential national “security risk.” He also lambasted Zionism as a “threat” to global peace).

Jews in Hungary and elsewhere are concerned by Jobbik’s flirtation with the Iranian regime. Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League in the U.S., wrote in 2011 that anti-Semitism “binds” the Hungarian ultranationalists with the ayatollahs of Tehran in a “nexus of hate.” “That is all they have in common,” he added.

Jobbik is determined to increase Hungarian bilateral trade with Iran, which has plunged from $400 million to $40 million – a 90 percent drop -- since 2000.

Coincidentally, next year will mark Holocaust Remembrance Year in Hungary, the 70th anniversary of the deportation of at least 450,000 Hungarian Jews to Nazi death camps. “We know that we were responsible for the Holocaust in Hungary,” Deputy Prime Minister Tibor Navracsics told a Jewish conference in Budapest. “We know that Hungarian state interests were responsible.”

The ruling Fidesz party, which, through coalitions, controls two-thirds of the parliament, dwarfing Jobbik’s 47 seats, has condemned anti-Semitism in the country repeatedly. (As a bizarre aside, last year it was revealed that Csanad Szegedi, a senior Jobbik leader and member of the European Parliament, was himself Jewish and that his grandmother, Magoldna Klein, was a Jewish Holocaust survivor. Dettke commented that Szegedi is now leading a normal life as a Jewish Hungarian). There are no more than 100,000 Jews residing in Hungary – down from about 800,000 in 1941. Roma (Gypsies) are far more numerous, representing as much as 10 percent of Hungary’s total population today.

Dettke said the party is seeking to establish a role with mainstream right-wing parties. “But because of its anti-Semitism, its pro-Islam attitude and its quaint ideology of Turanism, Jobbik is not acceptable for many other right-wing political parties, in the UK, Netherlands for example." But Dettke noted that Jobbik has some significant leverage in the Hungarian parliament – already it has imposed its will on a number of issues on the Fidesz majority, including provisions for a passport for every Hungarian abroad and a surtax on multinational companies, as well as Orban’s increased geopolitical focus on the Middle East and Asia.

Dettke adds also that, given Jobbik’s not-insignificant popular support, Orban has to pander to them – to a degree. “Orban pays a dangerous game of copying and at the same time trying to outflank Jobbik,” he said. “This could lead to [the] legitimization of Jobbik,” adding that Jobbik could draw even more votes both in Hungarian national elections as well in the European elections next May.

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EU rights agency decries ‘mainstreaming’ of extremism in Hungary, Greece

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12/23/2013 21:51

Greece's Golden Dawn and Hungary’s Jobbik have both been termed neo-Nazi parties by the World Jewish Congress.

The European Union’s Fundamental Rights Agency issued a series of recommendations last week aimed at stemming the “mainstreaming of elements of extremist ideology in political and public discourse” throughout the continent, particularly in Greece and Hungary. Gaslighting. Nationalism is mainstream. Anti-nationalism is extremism.

The group specifically voiced concern over the “substantial parliamentary representation of parties that use paramilitary tactics or are closely associated with paramilitary groups and use extremist rhetoric to target irregular migrants (that's a new one) in Greece, and the Roma and Jews in Hungary.”

The human rights watchdog cited several “barriers” to countering the rise in xenophobia, including, in the case of Greece, problematic record-keeping in the case of hate crimes and “no evidence” of a systematic effort to deal with racism. In Hungary, a strict interpretation of what constitutes incitement to hatred has set a high legal bar for prosecution, which has hindered efforts to curb extremism.

Record-keeping in Hungary is also problematic, the agency alleged. However, the FRA continued, both countries have made significant efforts to rectify these shortcomings.

“All public officials, representatives of human rights bodies and civil society organizations with whom FRA met expressed a strong interest and willingness to engage in multi–agency partnerships and outlined some concrete obstacles and barriers that should be resolved,” the group said in regard to Greece. Moreover, recent legal and police efforts aimed at shutting down the ultra-nationalist Golden Dawn party elicited praise for Athens from the continental group, including Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras’s promise to “deracinate” the party.

Such partnerships, the FRA believes, are key in combating racism and xenophobia.

The rights group expressed concern, however, that the assumption by the government that lowering the numbers of illegal migrants in Greece would lead to a decrease in violence could have negative repercussions.

“Such assumptions, which ignore how deeply held beliefs and attitudes can shape behavior, can negatively impact on the effectiveness of responses to racism, xenophobia and related intolerance,” the group asserted.

Golden Dawn and Hungary’s Jobbik have both been termed neo-Nazi parties by the World Jewish Congress, which earlier this year called for a ban on all such parties in the European Union. The Jobbik party’s paramilitary arm, the New Hungarian Guard, has reminded some local Jews of the Nazi SA “brownshirts.” Peter Feldmajer, a former head of the local community, told The Jerusalem Post earlier this year that many Holocaust survivors now “hear the same voices that they did in the past.” However, he said, the younger generation stands ready to “fight back.”

Both parties emerged as important political forces in their respective countries despite their previous statuses as longtime fringe movements.

The FRA came under fire from Israel recently after removing a draft definition of anti-Semitism from its website.

“We don’t have a mandate to develop [and] impose, in any way, definitions,” an FRA official told the Post following complaints from Israeli Foreign Ministry officials. “We cannot provide a measure based on which people will assess how one Jewish organization records incidents in one country versus a Jewish organization in another country versus a police authority in a third country versus a civil society organization in a fourth country.”

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Far-right youth group leader Toroczkai sweeps election for village mayor
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László Toroczkai, the leader of the far-right 64 Counties Youth Movement (Hatvannégy Vármegye Ifjúsági Mozgalom), was elected mayor of the Csongrád County village of Ásotthalom (pop: 4,052) on Sunday after the previous municipal council was disbanded.

Toroczkai, who ran as a candidate of Jobbik, swept the election with 71.5% of the 1,264 votes cast. The only other candidate was Ferenc Petró of the governing Fidesz party.

Unusual support

Toroczkai’s lopsided victory was considered all the more odd given that he received support from the local branch of the Democratic Coalition (DK), the party of former Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány – whom Toroczkai in 2011 was caught on tape saying he would shoot if given the chance.

One local DK party member, József Márki, went as far as saying he would vote for Toroczkai even if Gyurcsány himself called him to tell him not to. Márki was later expelled from the party and the leaders of the DK distanced themselves from this support, though Toroczkai said he received ballot nomination papers from several other local DK members.

Toroczkai gained widespread notoriety following the 2006 siege of the Hungarian Television building and has since remained a key figure on the fringes of the country’s political life.

A former journalist once affiliated with the now-moribund MIÉP party, he later founded the 64 Counties Youth Movement, which is mostly known for its opposition to the Trianon Treaty that saw the dismemberment of historic Hungary following World War I.

Over the years, he has been barred from entering Romania, Serbia and Slovakia.

http://www.politics.hu/20131217/far-...village-mayor/

Jacob movement exposed Leto مؤدّب • 7 days ago −
But Leto Fidesz are also under the blanket of the Jewish elite, all sides, slowly the left will disappear and the centre, right and radical right will evolve, but the truth is that they are all controlled by deception, filthy Human made politics ever since the Jacob movement through to the French revolution, finally communism and capitalism are all controlled by Jacob movement.
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Jacob movement exposed Leto مؤدّب • 7 days ago
This is all I said: "It would not surprise me one bit that all the parties in politics are useless as tits on a bull, all working for the Elite big noses.." I was referring to Orban/Fidesz and Vona/Jobbik.

Leto مؤدّب honlea’ny • 5 days ago
He is probably an 8.3%-er. We don't want those. We want 100%-ers at Jobbik.
Vona, my hero said the following: "If it's not spicy, if it's not confident, if it's not at least 12 inches, and if it easily turns flaccid then it's not a true Hungarian salami." (I suspect he wasn't referring to the famous food item.)
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honlea’ny Leto مؤدّب • 5 days ago
Leyo - you little hairy faun - you made me blush...
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Leto مؤدّب honlea’ny • 5 days ago
True Hungarians never blush. You must be a visitor from another land. An 8.3 %-er.

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Jobbik to surprise at 2014 election, leader vows
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Radical nationalist Jobbik will surprise at next year’s general election, leader Gabor Vona said on Wednesday. Jobbik plans to focus on positive messages and presenting its programme during the campaign instead of the “mudslinging” of ruling Fidesz and the main opposition Socialists. Jobbik wants to present a viable alternative that is able to govern for all citizens who have become disillusioned in the ruling parties of the past 23 years, he said, adding that such citizens now represent the majority. Jobbik is the only party that dares stating what the real problems are and can also resolve them, Vona said. Jobbik has selected its 106 individual candidates and party director Gabor Szabo has been elected as campaign chief, just like in 2010, he said.

http://www.politics.hu/20131218/jobb...n-leader-vows/



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This is not a valid poll. It's by Ipsos.
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'Turkey is the last castle, it must not fall'

Hungary opposition Jobbik Party leader Gabor Vona called Turkey the 'last castle' in a party gathering in Budapest.



The leader of Hungarian opposition party Jobbik, Gabor Vona, who is known for his pro-Turkey stance and has worked arduously to promote relations with Turkey based on mutual interests and a shared past by pushing forward the two people’s common Altaic roots, referred to Turkey as the ‘last castle’.

Speaking on last year’s Gezi Park protests which aimed to topple the Turkish government and the current ongoing graft scandal which started on December 17, which many believe is another attempt to discredit Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government, Vona reportedly said ‘The same way this strong leader – Prime Minister Erdogan – overcame previous problems, he will also overcome these ones,’ at the Jobbik 2013 debrief meeting attended by approximately 2,000 supporters in Budapest.

The anti-EU party leader’s stand has been growing in popularity in Hungary recently, particularly among the youth and those seeking an alternative to integrating with the European Union. At the meeting, he told the audience that the Hungarian people will soon be freed from imprisonment, and that they will soon be turning their faces towards the east in order to secure their future.

Vona also said, ‘Turkey is the last castle, it must not fall,’ adding ‘we must do whatever it takes to prevent this.’

Despite being the target of animosity from pro-EU voices both inside and outside of Hungary, Vona’s Jobbik Party surprised many by winning 17% of the votes in the last general elections. Statistics have shown that Jobbik, which looks kindly upon Islam and Muslims, is the most popular party among the Hungarian youth.

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Jobbik to overthrow past 24 years, says Vona

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The radical nationalist Jobbik party wants to overthrow the entire 24 year-period since the change of regime not only the current government at the spring general election, party leader Gabor Vona said on Saturday.

Vona told around 2,000 invited participants at the party’s “state of the nation” event in Budapest that Jobbik was ready to govern Hungary.

The party has prepared its election programme dubbed “We’ll say it, we’ll solve it,” which focuses on guaranteeing people a livelihood, safety and order. Additionally, Jobbik wants to “finally call people to account for their deeds, which has been neglected for the past 24 years,” he added.

According to Vona, those that vote for the ruling Fidesz and the main opposition Socialists are masochists. He said the message to uncertain voters is that “it is not Jobbik that’s radical but the situation.”

Vona said his party would next week initiate a referendum on protecting Hungarian land and on amending Hungary’s European Union accession treaty.

Vona proposed a debate of three prime ministerial candidates involving Prime Minister Viktor Orban, Socialist leader Attila Mesterhazy amd himself, to be held during the election campaign.

In connection with the Paks nuclear power plant, he said that Jobbik has consistently supported the expansion and they believe the one offered by Russia is the safest of all the possible options. He said it was regrettable though that this energy policy issue has become a campaign topic. He said it was a tactical error on behalf of Orban that he failed to consult parliament on the matter and timed the announcement to the beginning of the campaign.

http://www.politics.hu/20140118/jobb...ars-says-vona/


Standard Hungarian • 2 days ago −

Of course Jobbik must be called "radical nationalist" every time.
Why don't they call MSZP and FIDESZ "corrupt thieving" or something similar. They have proven to qualify for some derogatory adjectives.
Jewish influence is quite obvious in media bias.
I would much prefer Jobbik over any of the big parties.
Voters are manipulated into going with the familiar evil, and don't take chances with trying something better.
It's another "shared value" with the US, where Ralph Nader wasn't even allowed to participate in the debates. He's an honest, stand up guy, with a lifetime record of fighting for the rights of people vs. big corporations. No wonder big money won over fairness, as usual.
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Jobbik campaign to focus on livelihoods, order and accountability, says leader

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Radical nationalist party Jobbik is preparing a campaign focusing on its programme for governance, Gabor Vona, the party’s leader, told a news conference on Monday.

Vona also said he would challenge Prime Minister Vikor Orban and Socialist leader Attila Mesterhazy to a television debate.

He noted that polling surveys indicated that there is a large number of uncertain potential voters. It would help such people to make a decision were there to be a three-way debate. A rejection of the initiative by Orban and Mesterhazy would send a message to voters. He added, however, that he trusted such a debate would go ahead.

Vona said that Jobbik would unveil its election programme at an event in the countryside on Feb. 15. He said the three main goals of the programme would focus of people’s livelihoods, order and accountability.

Asked by a journalist about Hungary’s deal with Russia on the country’s sole nuclear power station, Vona said that he had met Hungarian representatives of Rosatom, the Russian energy giant involved in the agreement, and he was convinced that the Russian offer, given the proportion of Hungarian suppliers, would be the best one.

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jews cant figure out how to feel about the Jobbik leader who 'discovered' his jewish roots

Always view these discoveries (Madeleine Albright, Christy Hitchens) with a curled lip. Jews aren't the kind of people who wake up one day and find out they're jews.


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