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I liked the book I shared here on the thread, The Aryan Ancestry of Jesus, because several points of it interest me a lot, and it is an honest work.


https://opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/ocj/vol1909/iss4/1/

https://www.ancient.eu/books/1656907283/



And I was also interested in the excellent text of the link shared by Comrade Crowe, and I also want to highlight this excerpt:


https://www.travelujah.com/stories/w...ans-days-jesus

"Whether it had been Jewish migrants from Judea or a Galilean peasantry forcibly converted to Judaism that ultimately became the “Galileans” of Jesus’ day, one thing seems reasonably clear: they were considered different in many respects from Jews living farther to the south, closer to Jerusalem. L. Michael White, Professor of Classics abd Director of the Religious Studies Program University of Texas at Austin ir t travelujah 20 l as2 o 1 a 0060816104,

The term Galilean seems to have been used in a variety of ways in this period. To some, it just mean an outsider, or someone who’s not really an old Jew of the traditional sort. Precisely because the Galilee had traditionally been Jewish at the time of the Maccabean Revolt a hundred or 150 years before Jesus."

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The differences were mostly social and class differences, such as the Galileans were viewed by the elite in Jerusalem as being unsophisticated peasants. No evidence to really suggest they were hugely racially distinct.

Until someone takes a bunch of skulls from Galilee during that time period and analyzes them and does facial recognition on a large quantity, we won't get a consensus on what they looked like "broadly". But what has been found isn't looking good for the Aryan hypothesis.

Since this is mostly speculation, anyway, I'm gonna speculate on another point. Jews have control over the whole region, and you figure someone has been looking into this but data on stuff like this seems surprisingly guarded. If the samples taken were anything close to what the jews in Israel look like currently, we would have heard about it a million times already, and they'd be using it to support their agenda. I suspect the ancient Israelites are closer to Arabs, or possibly the very Palestinians they're busy murdering, and they're trying to hide it.

Lutador Branco questions the picture I posted as being from a leftist source. They asked someone from Israel for skulls, they got one, did a reconstruction on it, and the face looks like a border jumper who just made their way into Texas. 1 skull, no big deal, people can say that's just one, plausible deniability that it's a fluke, but I say they should facially reconstruct all of them they have and share the data publicly. But they won't. Do they all look like Jose from mey-hi-co? And Ahmed from Saudi Arabia? Because if they all do, then that would be a disaster for their claims of "retaking" their biblical territory if they objectively look nothing like the original inhabitants.

What do you christians here say, should all the skulls they found in Galilee be tested by and analyzed independently and the data made public? Because I'm curious about what the jews are hiding here, and if they turn out to all be Aryan, then I'll eat crow.
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Why would be important is he Aryan or not? Teachenings from the New Testament are suicidal and Romans this lunatic nailed on the cross because he was shame for White civilization on that time as other criminals who had same destiny. Chek this out:



It is totally irrelevant who invented this insane religion,fact is that she is too weak for salvation of the White race (civilization) and it is much visible on colonized areas where you have non-white christian priests where they become leaders of Whites who must sell all what they have and give to then poor non-whites.
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VNN, it's a pretty niche forums.
It was said long ago in a different era that even a small knitting group will harbour an imposter who reports on you.

For an example the EU spent most of last year advertising this contract on google. Now it just comes up as the PDF:


STUDY ON RIGHT-WING VIOLENT EXTREMISM AND HATE SPEECH ONLINE
1. Contracting authority
European Commission
Directorate-General Justice and Consumers
Directorate C
Unit C2
Rue Montoyer 59
Brussels 1049

blah, blah, blah...

7. Full description of the fields covered by the call for expressions of interest
The Commission, in the context of its work on the implementation of the Code of conduct on
countering illegal hate speech online and the EU Internet Forum1
, have identified the need for
further research to better understand the landscape, nature and scale of the activities of violent
right wing extremists online and the manifestations in terms of hateful material.
The contract is aimed to map how violent right wing extremists messages are expressed in
digital environments, unveiling ecosystems where organised groups use various internet
platform to spread extremist ideologies, hatred and intolerance.
It is important to note that while there is not a common definition of violent right-wing
extremism, research2
suggests that right-wing extremist ideology can be categorised into
racial nationalism (white supremacy or racism), cultural nationalism (e.g. arguing that
Western culture must be protected), ethnic nationalism (e.g. arguing that people with different
ethnic origins should not mix).
The study shall cover digital environments with diverse ideological profiles, including
mainstream platforms that attract individuals who sympathise with violent right-wing
extremist views. The contractor shall monitor several different platforms/environments: large
discussion forums such as Stormfront and VNN forum, news outlets such as Daily Stormer
and The Right Stuff, video-sharing platforms such as YouTube and Dailymotion and social
media platforms such as Twitter, Gab, Dissenter and BitChute.
In order to attain a comprehensive view of the environments, the study shall be performed
using an interdisciplinary mixed methods-approach – i.e. technologies from computer science
to analyse and collect relevant data, linguistic analysis to grasp important concepts and jargon,
and a framework of psychological theories to understand the intra- and interpersonal
processes that serve to evolve and maintain extremist beliefs in digital environments. The
contractor shall record and compile all the data and provide an outcome to the Commission in
the form of a report, which shall include, maps, graphs and visualisation of patterns.
The following tasks are to be carried out:
 Active screening in different EU Member States of violent right-wing extremist
content in different digital environments – discussion forums, news outlets, videosharing platforms and social media, including open social media, “free-speech” and
ideological platforms, that have a high number of visitors from EU Member States.
The study will focus on content spread in English, Italian, German, and Swedish. The
contractor will add one additional language which is deemed relevant for the topic and
which ensures a balanced geographical scope of the EU.

Analysis of up to 10 online platforms, including the number of active users, the
number of visitors, location of visitors, and common discussion topics. The analysis
will include selection of violent right-wing extremist content (messages) and
usernames (if they are active on different environments) promoting violence based on
the use of different ideologies, language and symbols (describing the linguistic
features and jargon used), perception about the enemies (demonization and
dehumanisation), conspiracy theories (and to what extent they are a part of the
discussions on the different platforms), and hate (the level of hate on the different
platforms and what groups or individuals hatred is directed to)
 Delivering to the Commission the results of the study in the form of a report that will
look into how different online platforms are being used by violent right-wing
extremists and individuals to propagandise and promote terrorism and violence, trends
and patterns of behaviour adopted by violent right-wing extremists and how they opt
to use different platforms.
 Candidates will be requested to prove sound scientific expertise in detecting violent
right-wing extremist content on digital environments as well as sound knowledge and
familiarity with the landscape of violent right-wing extremism online. In particular,
the candidates should also prove sound knowledge regarding extremist ideologies,
psychological and conspiracy theories as well hate speech (in particular as referred to
in the 2008 Framework Decision on combating racism and xenophobia).
 Candidates will also be requested to follow ethical considerations concerning integrity
versus security while conducting the study, ensuring that the presentation of the
identified violent right-wing extremist content is on an aggregated level, protecting the
integrity of the individual platform users, and ensuring that methods used comply with
the general ethical guidelines and the General Data Protection Regulation.
Detailed requirements regarding selection criteria will be specified in the tender
specifications.
The indicative amount for these activities is set at €120 000.

Place of delivery
European Commission premises.
9. Deadline for expressions of interest
The interested economic operators should express their interest at the latest on 1 April 2020.
10. Ex-post transparency
Details on the contractors who have concluded a contract of more than €15 000 awarded
following the procedure set out at point 4 shall be published on the website of the contracting
authority no later than 30 June of the year following contract award. These details include
name, locality (address for legal persons and region of origin for natural persons), amount,
and subject of the contract. For natural persons, the information shall be removed two years
after the year of contract award.

JUST/2019/RRAC/FW/RIGH/0178 - European Commission

https://www.google.com/search?q=vnn+...w=1707&bih=838


These globalists want to exterminate the decent Whites, all of the higher caste Shi'ites and Thais, the Armenians, the Joseons, all fauna and flora, and yet writing a bad word on a forum is a crime?

On these forums the people used to say, "All we need to do is write the truth", and indeed that truth leaked out and is everywhere now. If that's Linder's legacy he did a good job.
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It was said long ago in a different era that even a small knitting group will harbour an imposter who reports on you.

For an example the EU spent most of last year advertising this contract on google. Now it just comes up as the PDF:
I'm delighted to hear that (((they're))) quaking the yarmulkes off their heads over what's being posted on VNN. I think that's a testament to the quality of the content that's being posted here, even though this forums doesn't get a huge amount of activity compared to Stormfront or Daily Stormer.
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The differences were mostly social and class differences, such as the Galileans were viewed by the elite in Jerusalem as being unsophisticated peasants. No evidence to really suggest they were hugely racially distinct.

Until someone takes a bunch of skulls from Galilee during that time period and analyzes them and does facial recognition on a large quantity, we won't get a consensus on what they looked like "broadly". But what has been found isn't looking good for the Aryan hypothesis.

Since this is mostly speculation, anyway, I'm gonna speculate on another point. Jews have control over the whole region, and you figure someone has been looking into this but data on stuff like this seems surprisingly guarded. If the samples taken were anything close to what the jews in Israel look like currently, we would have heard about it a million times already, and they'd be using it to support their agenda. I suspect the ancient Israelites are closer to Arabs, or possibly the very Palestinians they're busy murdering, and they're trying to hide it.

Lutador Branco questions the picture I posted as being from a leftist source. They asked someone from Israel for skulls, they got one, did a reconstruction on it, and the face looks like a border jumper who just made their way into Texas. 1 skull, no big deal, people can say that's just one, plausible deniability that it's a fluke, but I say they should facially reconstruct all of them they have and share the data publicly. But they won't. Do they all look like Jose from mey-hi-co? And Ahmed from Saudi Arabia? Because if they all do, then that would be a disaster for their claims of "retaking" their biblical territory if they objectively look nothing like the original inhabitants.

What do you christians here say, should all the skulls they found in Galilee be tested by and analyzed independently and the data made public? Because I'm curious about what the jews are hiding here, and if they turn out to all be Aryan, then I'll eat crow.


Yes, Comrade Crowe, all the skulls they found in Galilee should be tested and analyzed independently, and the data made public; this would also help us to have a better understanding of the controversial subject.


In the meantime, we are exchanging ideas.

See the following excerpts from The Aryan Ancestry of Jesus:


https://opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/ocj/vol1909/iss4/1/


Opening page, and pages 195 and 196.

''THE ARYAN ANCESTRY OF JESUS.
BY PAUL HAUPT.

THE founders of Christianity were Galileans. Our Saviour's first
disciples, Peter and his brother Andrew, as well as the two
sons of Zebedee, James and John, were Galilean fishermen. Pilate
was told that Jesus was a Galilean (Luke, xxiii. 7). The Roman
procurator treated Jesus as a political ofifender. Pilate was no
doubt responsible for the execution of the Messiah, not the Jews
(compare Luke, xiii. i). It has been observed that the representation
of the Jewish attitude, as well as that of the Roman procedure,
at the trial of Jesus looks very much like a late attempt to take the
blame as far as possible off the shoulders of the Romans and lay it
on the Jews.^
Jesus Himself was called The Galilean. The Roman emperor
Julian the Apostate, who announced his conversion to paganism on
his accession to the throne, a. d. 361, is said to have exclaimed, when
he was mortally wounded by an arrow in his campaign against
Persia, "Galilean, Thou hast conquered !"
Canon Cheyne remarks in his Encyclopcedia Biblica (col. 1631) :
"Professor Percy Gardner (the distinguished archeologist of the
University of Oxford and Chairman of the Local Committee of the
Third International Congress for the History of Religions, which
was recently held in Oxford, September 15-18, 1908) has well said,
'According to all historic probability, Jesus of Nazareth was born
at Nazareth.' " He is called The Nazarene in the Talmud.''


''Our Saviour is generally supposed to have been a Jew by race.
In 1523 Luther published a treatise in which he tried to show that
Jesus was a Jew. But in the Maccabean gloss prefixed to the poetic
glorification of the Return from the Exile in 538 n. c. and of the
birth of the Davidic jirince Zerubbabel, in the ninth chapter of the
Book of the Prophet Isaiah, Galilee is called "the district of the
nations," that is, gentiles.^ Also in Joshua, xii. 23 we must read,
"the king of the nations in Galilee" (instead of Gilgal).'^
In the First Book of the Maccabees (v. 14-23) wc read that

"messengers from Galilee, with their clothes rent, came to Judas
Maccabseus and his brethren, who reported in this wise. They of
Ptolemais, and of Tyrus and Sidon, and all Galilee of the Gentiles
are assembled together against us to consume us.... Then said
Judas unto Simon, his brother, Choose thee out men, and go and
deliver thy brethren that are in Galilee .... Now unto Simon were
given 3000 men to go into Galilee. . . .where he fought many battles
with the heathen And those that were in Galilee, that is, in Arbatta,''
with their wives and their children, and all that they had,
took he away, and brought them into Judea with great joy."

So the Jews who lived in Galilee at the time of Judas Maccabseus
were all rescued and transferred to Jerusalem in 164 b. c. At
the same time Judas Maccabseus delivered his brethren who lived
among the heathen in the northern region of the country east of the
Jordan, and brought them all to Jerusalem. His triumphant return
from this victorious expedition is glorified in Psalm Ixviii.*

Consequently there were no Jews in Galilee after the year 164
B. c. But in 103 B. c. Simon's grandson (the eldest son and successor
of the great Maccabean conqueror John Hyrcanus) Aristobulus,
the first King of the Jews, whose coronation is glorified in
Psalm ii,^ judaized Galilee, forcing the inhabitants to adopt circumcision
and the Mosaic Law.
Since that time the Galileans were Jews by religion, but not
Jews by race.''

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I just have this rhetoric because Christianity was really reason of my perivous poor life. I can recommend to you Klassen letters Vol1 where he explained why he rejected Christianity as Might is Right by Ragnar Redbread. Also read Hitler's Table talk and Bormann "The Relationship Between NS and Christianity". Gerry Fable made whole topic who explain that is national-socialism not Christian. Fact is that NSDAP have officially anti-Christian swastika. I know that some NS as Alfred Rosenberg wanted to represent Jesus as Aryan in his book "The Myth of the Twentieth Century",read comment on this in chapture "The Nazi-Germanic Religion": http://creativityalliance.com/wp-con...ghReligion.pdf I learn lot of perivous WN members and one claim that he red over 200 WP books and in top 10 he did not mention Christian authors. According to him,only few of them recognize whole picture with rejecting Christianity. I can respect pro-white Christians but Christianity will be always anti-white,for know this,you must read some advanced anti-christian authors who I put.
Might is right is very traditional Christian theology, and explained to the smallest details by the Church Fathers and Saints.

Until Vatican II, (Novus Ordo), the original Church teaching was that the Yiddish cannot be saved. It is not Christianity that brang in non-Whites, it was heretics. The theology is no no-Whites are allowed into the Church except in exceptional cases, and it is exclusivist. The Puritan tainted Evangelists are not representative of Christianity, the West in general.

The fact is without Christianity we would have fallen into modern Mamonism long ago. Even with Rome it only defended itself and never the White race and it enslaved and murdered as many Whites as Islam except Islam was quicker about it. Now we debate over what unifying principles or theology to unite over while the kike marches on...
 
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I find this topic fascinating however I don't have a dog in this fight as I'm not a Christian nor a devout atheist, either. I was brought up a catholic which I do not practice and do not even consider to be Christian (another topic of another time for another forum).

But I also do not completely reject all NSers who are Christian just because they are Christian nor do I try to tell them they are wrong (however I do believe most white Christians are a detriment to the white race).

Anyway, what I find fascinating and entertaining in these arguments are...

1) That the non-religious folks seem to be just as, if not more, religious in their non-religiosity than the professed religious ones.

2) That the non-believers try to use science to prove Jesus' race or ethnicity, yet, assuming he did exist as part human, part divine, all science as we know it can be thrown out the window because he was born of a virgin and his paternal DNA was from a deity. That means he could have been born of a green snake mother but came out as a pink elephant-fish-cadillac with 5 elephant heads, 10 fish tails and a gas engine for a heart!!! The guy was conceived without human sperm FFS!
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Anyway, what I find fascinating and entertaining in these arguments are...

1) That the non-religious folks seem to be just as, if not more, religious in their non-religiosity than the professed religious ones.
Lack of belief in something doesn't control my day to day life. Whereas with Christians, their belief in a deity is integral to their lives. That's the difference, and it's a huge one.

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2) That the non-believers try to use science to prove Jesus' race or ethnicity, yet, assuming he did exist as part human, part divine, all science as we know it can be thrown out the window because he was born of a virgin and his paternal DNA was from a deity. That means he could have been born of a green snake mother but came out as a pink elephant-fish-cadillac with 5 elephant heads, 10 fish tails and a gas engine for a heart!!! The guy was conceived without human sperm FFS!
What you just said brings the claims of the Christians into question. Children cannot be born without intercourse happening, certainly not in those times. The mere idea goes against natural law, and such a thing occurring has roots in other, older Pagan religions. That just makes it really easy to deny that happened at all. The more likely occurrence is that the woman wasn't faithful to her husband. But the most likely out of all possibilities was that the whole thing was nothing more than a story, and it never happened at all.
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Also, I admit that I've been in somewhat of a sour mood this past week, I have an abscess tooth, so I'm in a bit of pain (I absolutely refuse to take narcotics, doctor was going to write a prescription, and I refused it), and the earliest I could get a dentist appointment was the middle of November. Feeling a little better today, because the infection went down, and I can no longer feel my heart beating inside of my tooth.
Crowe, your dentist should have given you an antibiotic for that infection. A few years ago, I had an infection under a tooth (not sure if that's the same as an abscess but the pain was intense and I could not chew on that side). I told the dentist I would not take an opioid, which he agreed with. I got that prescription strength Ibuprofen, which did the trick. I had used it before after foot surgery on a dislocated toe.
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Until Vatican II, (Novus Ordo), the original Church teaching was that the Yiddish cannot be saved. It is not Christianity that brang in non-Whites, it was heretics. The theology is no no-Whites are allowed into the Church except in exceptional cases, and it is exclusivist. The Puritan tainted Evangelists are not representative of Christianity, the West in general.
Weren't the Catholics hellbent on converting the Amerindians of what is now South America and Mexico? I think they were more so than any of the Protestants in North America. I'm referring to centuries ago.
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The fact is without Christianity we would have fallen into modern Mamonism long ago.
Christianity tell us that we do not need collect money on the earth,not just that,we must also sell all we have and give to the all scum of the world while jews have clear program that with interest on money they must enslave whole world. With this teachenings,whole money can only have Jews over poor Christians. Money=work,what is wrong with having lot of money if you are capable for have it? Ask jewish rich upper class if it is. If you are upper class goy,you can not go in jewish heaven what do you think why? Because it is impossible jewish power in that case. Someone can say that are people like Trump rich,but with giving to the state who have loans to the banks more than half of your earnings (70%),only who is rich are banksters. I do not want waste my time for explain why is Christianity bad,if WN people do not see non-whites among them in Christian Churches in USA and also have not problem for kneel under black priest on confession,it is end of discussion for me. Whole jewish religion is mamonism so Jehovah is same as Mammon who allow only that Jews can be rich,for goys he put his son known as Christ who had mission for explain to us how is being poor great. Final mission of Christianity is that we look like first Christian underclass rats in catacombs.
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Spoiler alert: Christ-insanity is a Jewish fairy tale created by (((Saul of Tarsus))) as a method of control.
Is there any evidence that Saul existed? His writings are very similar to the Stoic philosopher Seneca who was born and died the same years as Saul, who was born outside of Rome, bit a Roman citizen, and both put to death by Nero, although there is evidence for Seneca to have existed. Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakkai escaped out of Jerusalem in a basket because he wanted a peaceful resolution just like Paul in the book of acts. The Paul shipwreck resembles a Josephus shipwreck, a link, not the best, I'm doing this post off the cuff, no access right now for better comparisons, https://vridar.org/2007/04/25/the-sh...d-paul-part-3/. Saul or Paul seems to be a composite charactor.

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Crowe, your dentist should have given you an antibiotic for that infection. A few years ago, I had an infection under a tooth (not sure if that's the same as an abscess but the pain was intense and I could not chew on that side). I told the dentist I would not take an opioid, which he agreed with. I got that prescription strength Ibuprofen, which did the trick. I had used it before after foot surgery on a dislocated toe.
They gave me amoxicillin, still took about a week for the swelling to go down. I feel better now though.
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