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Old May 30th, 2015 #1
keifer
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Default Seeking a solution to long-gun carry in the rain.

I am looking for ideas on how to carry a long gun in the rain while navigating the landscape. A preferred solution would ideally be a way that the firearm is at full ready in defense or hunting. Hunting has some leeway for solutions, but for defense I would rather the firearm be outside of a poncho. Carry in a pack is out of the question, although practical it is unrealistic for charging Grizzly Bears and Mountain Lions. Perhaps I am over thinking this, or just asking too much, but the ideas I come up with would inhibit aiming/site obstruction, or prohibit the ejection of a spent cartridge and basic functions on the action(firearm dependent/lever,pump).
 
Old May 30th, 2015 #2
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Well, there is really no ultimate trick for steel rifles in long duration wet climates, except oil the hell out of them constantly.

They do make stainless rifles. another trick is to wrap a condom over your barrel end to prevent rain from entering the chamber from the muzzle.

I usually spray my rifles with break free when heating them up to a hot operating temperature. This causes the oil to be drawn into the pores of the steel.

Any long term exposure to moisture will rust any firearm. I have seen some people spray their rifles with oil and then wrap them in shrink wrap...but I would not do that if you get your rifle really hot.
 
Old May 31st, 2015 #3
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An AK doesn't care about the weather
Otherwise maybe something like these?
There will be problems whatever you do in the bush, but that's why we do it.

http://www.baystatemilitaria.com/WWII/WWIIEquipment.htm

EE-1128 WWII waterproof invasion bag dated 1944. $25


http://doughboymilitary.com/pictures.php?id=7321

Pistol
http://doughboymilitary.com/pictures.php?id=6863


http://www.kpemig.de/US-Army-WWII-co...rproof-rifle_1


http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/carbine...-product,11315




Better to prepare for 2 situations - no time thus handgun, short time and then rifle.
A handgun may not be a bad option, rounds that hit the target are better than rounds that miss or arrive at the target too late, a man can cover more than a metre per second, animals much faster.
Shouting and the noise is more likely to move them away/slow them.
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Old May 31st, 2015 #4
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The best I came up with so far is a full length rain coat, .50 cent Goodwill military version. The stock tucks up under the armpit inside the coat but depends on it not being buttoned up for fast deployment. I am in very thick brush (Grizzly habitat) where response time for deployment is about zero. I am reminded of this every time I kick up a bird. Also, cats attack from behind. For this reason people say carry a shoulder holster so the pistol is pointed behind you. I have doubts about this and to me it simply represents more bullshit-basspro shop cult jibber. It is also an example of a solution that is overly specific and detailed to meet the any number of variables. What ever defense mechanism you choose it should be accessible by either hand in which case is at the core of my inquiry. I have considered the idea of a tarp cut to size and held in place by hand pressure at the for grip so that it can be shedded at the drop of a hat. This might work for general use, but for hunting it would be a liability because even the camo versions are shiney, and noisy. The surface is more reflective than anything else in the woods plus the surface magnifies movement. My choice of woods-carry has the advantage of being 73 caliber, but the disadvantage of being a two handed operation.
 
Old June 14th, 2015 #5
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I believe this is the best solution.
I picked up an Australian oilskin duster (cowboy coat) at a yard sale for $30 that included the sheep wool vest liner. Full length coat, waterproof, resistant to wind, thorns and for the most part suitable for all seasons and environments. This is a tool respectably so with its many uses beyond a coat. In this video is another similar option known as the watch coat that has the advantage of adjusting to the layering of conditional clothing whereas the Duster is tailored for one fit. From the video you will see that rifle scabbards are available as well. Wool being not as good for wind resistance as other material, would still go perfect as a sweater or liner under an outer covering of oilskin. This is the way to go.
 
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