This "Movement" Is A Pathetic Joke

Looking at the "pro-White movement" overall, it is rather "weak" (to put it as nice as I can).

Out of the dozens upon dozens of pro-White "groups" there are only two that currently stand out. One is the National Alliance and the other is the coalition group White Revolution. All other groups pale in comparison to the memberships and finances of these two groups.

When one looks at our two "biggest and best" groups it can be quickly noticed that neither can claim a membership of even one thousand at this time. Out of a nation of about 150 million Whites, neither of our two biggest organizations have a mere thousand members! That is very telling in itself.

We, as individuals and organizations, need to ask ourselves why, after several decades of Whites being stepped on while coloreds are promoted, can not any pro-White organization muster a respectable sized membership. Why after three decades can't the NA claim at least a thousand members for each decade of its existence? Why after only a little over a year is the new White Revolution nearly as large as the NA after three decades?

I think the ACLU has a membership of 400,000, plus many thousand more supporters. We can't even pull together one tenth of that number with all our organizations combined!

Obviously, something is being done wrong. Any organization that is serious about the survival of our race should be intent upon figuring out what is wrong and coming up with methods to attract the numbers and finances we will need to secure our future. As it is, it seems the organizations are mostly content to claim anywhere from three individuals to a few hundred members as their own and believe they can overcome the government, its military and police forces and its about 300 million people.

Not very realistic!

It is sort of a mere chase for dollars. It must be easy to sit back in some office somewhere and have the mail picked up every day to count the checks and money orders and figure that that's all that's needed. That so long as money is rolling in nothing else matters. That is why the NA has switched its main focus to CD sales, it just wants the money, period, and to hell with the PR effects of the selling of skinhead and satanist 'music' garbage.

Even the NA's handling of Hendrik Mobus was a huge lie. DrP and the org pretended that it was helping him because he was a persecuted political prisoner. In fact, the only reason they harbored that satanist murderer at all was because he had links to satanist music bands and their 'scene' in Europe and DrP saw him as a gateway to makings contacts and money there. Nobody seemed to give a sh*t as to the PR effects of the NA harboring a guy who was both a satanist and the strangler of a white person. That is REALLY the kind of people, and org, that decent whites and white families would want to join and support, RIGHT?

The whole point and purpose to racialism is to identify race problems and then resolve them somehow, which of necessity entails transforming society because society in its entirety is infected. To transform, one has to start from the bottom - the grassroots - and work upwards. That means getting out there and contacting people and persuading the best of them to our ideals and beliefs and courses of action. But most racialists want eaasy solutions and refuse to be activist in any way and engage in pipedreams and fantasies instead of real work.

I respect the conservative Christian groups and the white families that are active in them in their high-profile anti-abortion activities. These are people who turn out as whole families to be activist at the grassroots level, who form human chains at abortion clinics, who are willing to be arrested and do jail time, who do everything they can to stop white women from murdering their own babies. Some of them terminate the mass-murderer abortion 'doctors' who kill thousands of white babies, and thereby save countless white lives. SHOULD white women have a 'right' to murder their own babies? To these people, the answer is a clear NO and they are taking action about it. But ask the feminist women involved in race orgs about the abortion issue, about 'reproductive rights' and similar claptrap, and see what kind of answer one gets.

I invited Kevin Strom's wife (and various other feminst women who pretend to be racialists) to join Instauration to debate issues like this, and she completely chickened out. That is because she knows damned well that I will ask her hard, direct questions about abortion, about easy divorce, about single parenthood where the men are jettisoned, about women pursuing careers instead of having babies, about men's diminshed authority in marriage and family, about 'family planning', about all these things's effects on our birthrate, about the NA's dropping the anti-feminist books it used to carry, about the NV's artwork of women with babies but with men blipped out of the picture, and other issues. Feminists like forums like Stupidfront where feminism is protected by heavy censorship and they can't stand free and open forums like Instauration where there is no cencorship to hide behind.

These are the kind of people who have pressured or persuaded the 'men' in the NA to go soft on Jewish feminism, to stop being activist in opposition to it. They have thereby neutralized a major, important position that race orgs should take.

I've been an activist for over 30 years. I know what works and what doesn't. In the distant past I've participated in activities that proved to be total failures and thus it amazes me that the same stupidities are re-done over and over and often even by the same orgs. I've seen so many good people leave this cause, and so many bad people replace them, thus dragging everything straight down into the mud.

But it must be understood right up front that if an org is full of repellent human garbage, then the less that white normality seems of them, the better. That is why the effective demise of the execrable kook-studded 'Aryan Nations' was a sort of godsend to our side (Dees must be on our payroll!). It gave racialist so MUCH bad PR and for so long, that it was an ongoing nightmare. And NOW we have the NA doing pretty much the same thing with a new bunch of kooks.

The whole thing makes one want to just retire from it all in total disgust. That, in fact, is precisely why so many of the good people have left.

Originally Posted by Joe Bishop

It is sort of a mere chase for dollars. It must be easy to sit back in some office somewhere and have the mail picked up every day to count the checks and money orders and figure that that's all that's needed.

I would say that is pretty accurate. Pro-White organizations have tended to set up "national" offices and then opened their doors to membership, for a price, and then sat back and put out a bulletin and maybe some pamphlets and other stuff and tried to take over the world from there. As you say, what is needed is grassroots building. Building grassroots support, community activism and then tieing those together with State and regional "units" with general guidance nationally would change the dynamics signifcantly.

However, most "pro-Whites" are not interested in doing what might actually work. They would prefer to toss fliers at three in the morning, hold a "demonstration" with a dozen others waving nazi flags, or get drunk and yell at negroes. It's much more difficult to actually address local issues, talk with local Whites, clean up a local park for White children to play in, help poor elderly Whites get their groceries, tutor White students, set up White businesses and support networks, etc.

Legion Europa orginally started out trying to get community activism started by those already in the "movement". We managed to get about seven people to agree to do this, all of which were scattered around the country, and over the course of years no others would join with any of them to actually "do" something on a community level. Now Legion Europa has become little more than an information hub with its good community activism ideas collecting dust because no one wants to get involved in such "unglamorous" activism.

That was a very, very good post Joe. Thought provoking, that's for sure.

I've heard over the years that most political orgs have 1000 dues paying members, give or take a few hundred. I believe it was N.O.W. (National Organization of Women) that had a little over 800 members in the early-1990s, though I'm not sure of the number these days.

[Whirlwind]

What percentage of Colonists supported the independence movement? Theres a lot of Girl Scouts. That doesn't give them power.

There is no need for white nationalism. There is no need to tell everyone what the differences of the races are. There is no need to have white nationalist leaders. There is no need for pro-white oraganizations.

There only needs to be ANTI-JEWISH organizations and leaders, we can use everyone in our countries (no matter what their race) to support kicking out the money grubbing jews, who are EVERYONES enemy.

Kick the jews out of the white country's and all social ills will solve themselves, white nationalism will become a reality without even having to utter the words, when the jews are gone.

Back when the NA mailing list was stolen from Pierce's office by a National Alliance "leader" who thinks we've all forgotten about this incident, sold to Art Jones and John McLaughlin, and then copies passed around like a box of popcorn in 1995 or thereabouts, it contained a little over 2,000 names. Probably more; the copy I obtained had been "cherry picked" and the names of top financial donors removed. Most of those on the list were simply people who had ordered something from NV Books; there were approximately 400 signed-on, dues paying members of the National Alliance at that time. There was a rush of resignations after Oklahoma City as the racist couch potatoes stampeded for cover, but to be fair the NA did reach a kind of membership peak under Billy Roper, who was able to get MAYBE 1,000 signed on members. I have heard differing stories. Actual signed-on membership of the Gliebe NA now appears to be between 500 and 600 but many have stopped paying their dues and are kept on the books to conceal the disastrous effects of Gliebe's intriguing and incompetence.

Originally Posted by John E. Reb

Back when the NA mailing list was stolen from Pierce's office by a National Alliance "leader" who thinks we've all forgotten about this incident, sold to Art Jones and John McLaughlin, and then copies passed around like a box of popcorn in 1995 or thereabouts, it contained a little over 2,000 names. Probably more; the copy I obtained had been "cherry picked" and the names of top financial donors removed. Most of those on the list were simply people who had ordered something from NV Books; there were approximately 400 signed-on, dues paying members of the National Alliance at that time. There was a rush of resignations after Oklahoma City as the racist couch potatoes stampeded for cover, but to be fair the NA did reach a kind of membership peak under Billy Roper, who was able to get MAYBE 1,000 signed on members. I have heard differing stories. Actual signed-on membership of the Gliebe NA now appears to be between 500 and 600 but many have stopped paying their dues and are kept on the books to conceal the disastrous effects of Gliebe's intriguing and incompetence.

Meanwhile, the official story is: "We don't discuss numbers of members" and "We're growing". pffff

Originally Posted by cabinger

Meanwhile, the official story is: "We don't discuss numbers of members" and "We're growing". pffff

As bitterly as I hate to admit it, the ADL and to a lesser extent the SPLC membership figures are more or less in the ballpark, because they get those figures by monitoring outgoing mailings on the NA's bulk mailing permit and through other governmental and law enforcement "co-operation". The first sign of a patriot for profit or a blight wing scam is the use of a bulk mailing permit; it means that whoever's running the scene does not give a damn about his people's privacy and doesn't care if the Feds know who and where and how many people he's mailing to.

Originally Posted by Old White Goat

There is no need to tell everyone what the differences of the races are...There only needs to be ANTI-JEWISH organizations and leaders, we can use everyone in our countries (no matter what their race) to support kicking out the money grubbing jews, who are EVERYONES enemy.

I tend to agree with the parts I've captioned. Racial differnces are obvious, but showing the lemmings the fact that they are biological not cultural requires an IQ and/or attention span the lemmings simply lack. What we can demonstrate quite convincingly to the lemmings, through propaganda as simplistic, even misleading, as necessary, is what the kike has done and continues to do. VNN, jewWatch, Terror Timeline, even non-Racial JTR are the key to converting the lemmings, not abstruse works on evolutionary psychology or Russian history or even HOLOHOAX revisionism. Besides The Fuhrer, it was Goebbels and Streicher who reached the German masses, not the learned Rosenberg, Chamberlain and Fritsch.

Originally Posted by The Final Solution

I tend to agree with the parts I've captioned. Racial differnces are obvious, but showing the lemmings the fact that they are biological not cultural requires an IQ and/or attention span the lemmings simply lack. What we can demonstrate quite convincingly to the lemmings, through propaganda as simplistic, even misleading, as necessary, is what the kike has done and continues to do. VNN, jewWatch, Terror Timeline, even non-Racial JTR are the key to converting the lemmings, not abstruse works on evolutionary psychology or Russian history or even HOLOHOAX revisionism. Besides The Fuhrer, it was Goebbels and Streicher who reached the German masses, not the learned Rosenberg, Chamberlain and Fritsch.

I agree 100% with what White Goat said. IMO, It has nothing to do with "IQ" or attention spans. You don't need to point out the obvious. Plain and simple. People have a natural instinct that tells the we are all different, I don't give a shit how many people claim otherwise. EVERY single White person I talk to knows there is something funny about the big picture. Sitting around reminding "lemmings" about how we used to pour gasoline on race traitors and set them on fire, makes us sound fanatical and brash. There is nothing wrong with being sincere and dedicated, but not to the extent where you scare people away. Our :"job", is to wake people up, give them confidence in who they are, teach them that our ancestors are a people worth preserving, our children deserve a place in the future, our heritage is something to be proud of. We are innovaters (spic), thinkers and doers. Let the kike keep doing what they do, along with the Blacks and other minorities in this country, dissention will come as second nature to the lemmings. It did me, and I find that people respond well to these types of discussions and issues.

I am sick and tired of all the anger and "day of the rope" mentality that shines right through the most intelligent in our ranks. It's petty and just plain stupid. Not to point fingers, but a good example is Alex Linder. This guy is one of the most intelligent people I have had the honor of getting to know. Not personally, but from countless essays, comments and overall examinations of the world at large. It makes me cringe everytime I see the statement= ITZ COMING. That sounds gay and reckless. We know "itz coming", but there needs to be a little restraint in the name of joe six-pack.

The "Legion of Europa" idea is GRAND! I could get people to do something along these lines. White people are "individuals" by social standards, but yearn for a collective sense. Nobody in their right mind wants to join an "organization" that releases monthly statements about hanging some celebrity or pinning a medal on Timothy McVeigh. Talk like that is fine amongst ourselves, but not publicy stated on an open forum or website "promoting" our cause.

I am convinced that people agree with us. They not only know it, they feel it everytime they watch the news, or a football game. When they see a young blonde with a negro, when they go to work, school or fucking Wal-Mart. Itz everywhere they look. My day-to-day encounters with people and this fact, is the ONLY reason I still have faith that someday, people will be convicted enough to act.


The choice they have right now= Keep sliding into the material, self-centered hole they muttle in currently,or join a "hate" group. People are intimidated by us. We are smart and talk about things that make them uncomfortable. Not uncomfortable because the dissagree, but because they are never confronted with the truth. We need to use this intimidation factor to do GOOD things, not preach about burning nigger lovers and hanging people.

Originally Posted by John E. Reb

Looking at the "pro-White movement" overall, it is rather "weak" (to put it as nice as I can).

Great! Now that you realize your standards, go do something constructive!

[White Will]

Originally Posted by John E. Reb

Back when the NA mailing list was stolen from Pierce's office by a National Alliance "leader" who thinks we've all forgotten about this incident, sold to Art Jones and John McLaughlin, and then copies passed around like a box of popcorn....

This is Covington. The objective of this sort of smear is to spread doubt and undermine the confidence of members and potential members of the targeted organization, sort of like when he claims I'm an FBI Special Agent -- racial treason of the highest order in Covington's case, in my book, at least, if in no one else's. I'm the plaintiff in the personal libel suit, 'Williams v. Covington,' and I took it "personally," as Alex Linder complains I do, because I was the target of this smear campaign.

It should be well known in our circles that the penalty for such ongoing treason is death, especially when faces with the overwhelming documented history of deliberately undermining our efforts for over 30 years. Woe be unto fat ass should we ever find out where he is hiding. Where is the vaunted, elusive "lone wolf" when we need one.

BTW,for Jim Giles and all you other folks who are scared spitless of communicating conditional promises against convicted criminals. I checked with local and state law enforcementofficials, court officers, as well as the FBI, and they confirmed to me, wide-eyed and with obvious lumps in their throats, that, yes, if all legal avenues of relief from a criminal are totally exhausted, and, if by demonstrating that by killing the perpetrator his crimes cease, a homicide is justifiable. Look it up. I have already established to law enforcement and the courts that there is no avenue of relief from Harold Covington's attacks on my name.

I suppose I could dig up and scan and post the sworn affidavits by Dr. Pierce, proprietor of the NA member list back when Tubbo started making this claim, and John McLaughlin, the man to whom Tubbo claims I sold this "stolen list." They both testified that Covington's claim was a total fabrication. Fact! That's how you debunk a lie, folks, not by being defensive on a internet forum, whining, "It's not true. I didn't do it!!" When a judge in a libel case sees such a calculated smear, and a pattern of such smears from a defendant, not in an electronic fart, but in Covington's hard copy mailing, sent through the USPS, then he sees sworn denials of the claim from those mentioned by name, the defendant loses. Especially when he won't even come to court to defend his claim.

Nope, I'll not play this game.

Harold Covington needs a special bullet. Fact!

[plunk]

And if I have to waste much more time trying to avoidthe insane Harold Covington and his many personas, I'll leave this "free speech" forum to you kiddies who enjoy this sort of stuff.

Originally Posted by Magnus

I agree 100% with what White Goat said. IMO, It has nothing to do with "IQ" or attention spans. You don't need to point out the obvious. Plain and simple. People have a natural instinct that tells the we are all different, I don't give a shit how many people claim otherwise. EVERY single White person I talk to knows there is something funny about the big picture. Sitting around reminding "lemmings" about how we used to pour gasoline on race traitors and set them on fire, makes us sound fanatical and brash. There is nothing wrong with being sincere and dedicated, but not to the extent where you scare people away. Our :"job", is to wake people up, give them confidence in who they are, teach them that our ancestors are a people worth preserving, our children deserve a place in the future, our heritage is something to be proud of. We are innovaters (spic), thinkers and doers. Let the kike keep doing what they do, along with the Blacks and other minorities in this country, dissention will come as second nature to the lemmings. It did me, and I find that people respond well to these types of discussions and issues.

I am sick and tired of all the anger and "day of the rope" mentality that shines right through the most intelligent in our ranks. It's petty and just plain stupid. Not to point fingers, but a good example is Alex Linder. This guy is one of the most intelligent people I have had the honor of getting to know. Not personally, but from countless essays, comments and overall examinations of the world at large. It makes me cringe everytime I see the statement= ITZ COMING. That sounds gay and reckless. We know "itz coming", but there needs to be a little restraint in the name of joe six-pack.

The "Legion of Europa" idea is GRAND! I could get people to do something along these lines. White people are "individuals" by social standards, but yearn for a collective sense. Nobody in their right mind wants to join an "organization" that releases monthly statements about hanging some celebrity or pinning a medal on Timothy McVeigh. Talk like that is fine amongst ourselves, but not publicy stated on an open forum or website "promoting" our cause.

I am convinced that people agree with us. They not only know it, they feel it everytime they watch the news, or a football game. When they see a young blonde with a negro, when they go to work, school or fucking Wal-Mart. Itz everywhere they look. My day-to-day encounters with people and this fact, is the ONLY reason I still have faith that someday, people will be convicted enough to act.


The choice they have right now= Keep sliding into the material, self-centered hole they muttle in currently,or join a "hate" group. People are intimidated by us. We are smart and talk about things that make them uncomfortable. Not uncomfortable because the dissagree, but because they are never confronted with the truth. We need to use this intimidation factor to do GOOD things, not preach about burning nigger lovers and hanging people.

Most people kind of know (in the case of blonde on black) but don't really care. Your average white is far too comfortable to give a damn. Let him miss a few meals and his worldly possessions, and then you'll have a angry white man.

[Hadding]

Originally Posted by White Will

And if I have to waste much more time trying to avoidthe insane Harold Covington and his many personas, I'll leave this "free speech" forum to you kiddies who enjoy this sort of stuff.

Honest disagreement is certainly to be allowed, but what Covington is doing is utterly crooked and ought not to be tolerated. He is telling deliberate lies using multiple personae to create the appearance that these lies are part of some consensus on this forum. That is the impression that newcomers will get.

I understand that there is a desire not to be as censorious as Stormfront. I appreciate that, but I think it is wrong to go to such extremes to be unlike Stormfront that one does not use good sense.

[Jim Giles]

Originally Posted by White Will

BTW,for Jim Giles and all you other folks who are scared spitless of communicating conditional promises against convicted criminals.

I challenge you to a fist fight. Man to man. Toe to toe. No weapons. No gloves. Bare fists.

I just called Mississippi's Law Enforcement Training academy and inquired if we could fight on their property and they told me no but that we could fight at Gober's family fitness center in Brandon.

This will be helpful in recruiting more people to your cause. When you get to town give me a call. My telephone number is 601-936-3825.

No more talk.

Originally Posted by Magnus

1.I agree 100% with what White Goat said. IMO, It has nothing to do with "IQ" or attention spans. You don't need to point out the obvious.2. Plain and simple. People have a natural instinct that tells the we are all different, I don't give a shit how many people claim otherwise. EVERY single White person I talk to knows there is something funny about the big picture. Sitting around reminding "lemmings" about how we used to pour gasoline on race traitors and set them on fire, makes us sound fanatical and brash. There is nothing wrong with being sincere and dedicated, but not to the extent where you scare people away. Our :"job", is to wake people up, give them confidence in who they are, teach them that our ancestors are a people worth preserving, our children deserve a place in the future, our heritage is something to be proud of. We are innovaters (spic), thinkers and doers. Let the kike keep doing what they do, along with the Blacks and other minorities in this country, dissention will come as second nature to the lemmings. It did me, and I find that people respond well to these types of discussions and issues.

3.I am sick and tired of all the anger and "day of the rope" mentality that shines right through the most intelligent in our ranks. It's petty and just plain stupid. Not to point fingers, but a good example is Alex Linder. This guy is one of the most intelligent people I have had the honor of getting to know. Not personally, but from countless essays, comments and overall examinations of the world at large.4. It makes me cringe everytime I see the statement= ITZ COMING. That sounds gay and reckless. We know "itz coming", but there needs to be a little restraint in the name of joe six-pack.

The "Legion of Europa" idea is GRAND! I could get people to do something along these lines. White people are "individuals" by social standards, but yearn for a collective sense. Nobody in their right mind wants to join an "organization" that releases monthly statements about hanging some celebrity or pinning a medal on Timothy McVeigh. Talk like that is fine amongst ourselves, but not publicy stated on an open forum or website "promoting" our cause.

5.I am convinced that people agree with us. They not only know it, they feel it everytime they watch the news, or a football game. When they see a young blonde with a negro, when they go to work, school or fucking Wal-Mart. Itz everywhere they look. My day-to-day encounters with people and this fact, is the ONLY reason I still have faith that someday, people will be convicted enough to act.


The choice they have right now= Keep sliding into the material, self-centered hole they muttle in currently,or join a "hate" group. People are intimidated by us. We are smart and talk about things that make them uncomfortable. Not uncomfortable because the dissagree, but because they are never confronted with the truth. We need to use this intimidation factor to do GOOD things, not preach about burning nigger lovers and hanging people.

1. I think IQ is one of the key factors in determining who will be willing to join us, and who will not be willing to join. Naturally most of the kike-controlled media infests TV programs and crams them with niggers and other degenerate filth. The niggers and degenerate filth tend to do what they do best. They conduct themselves in a doltish manner. Many of the comedies currently being aired are crammed full of degenerate shit, and almost every joke on these shows is crass in nature. Then there's reality TV, don't even get me started on the subject. All I'll say is, reality TV targets audiences with generally low IQs though there are exceptions. (like my mother ) To make things worse, White People that have low IQs generally have high EQ. This means that they spread kike and wigger ideology like nigger hookers spread HIV.

2. Yes, I would agree with you, because this has been proven beyond a doubt. proof

3.I admit I sometimes have a problem concealing that 'day of rope' mentality which you speak of. I will do my best in the future to try maintain an acceptable level of conduct. I have already started striving to improve upon this problem in this thread. You'll notice I didn't mention what I think should be done to those who produce reality TV shows. Notice: If I slip and publicly express the 'day of rope' mentality, I implore you to PM me and tell me to get my act together.

4.I agree, people need to refrain from making statements like itz coming. I also think people need to refrain from suggesting violent action of any kind be taken in order to achieve our goals. (in public anyway) Another thing, White Nationalists should not be using Z in place of S! I don't think I need to explain why one should refrain from doing that sort of thing.

5.I'm not convinced that everyone agrees with us though, I'm sure many Whites do (4/5ths.) As I have said before, some people are truly beyond the point of recovery. They are just too cought up in wiggerdom, because they have spent too much time in front of the wiggernizer(TV).

Originally Posted by White Will

And if I have to waste much more time trying to avoidthe insane Harold Covington and his many personas, I'll leave this "free speech" forum to you kiddies who enjoy this sort of stuff.

Will, I don't want to see you leave here, I think everyone has really enjoyed reading your posts. I know I have. I'll talk to Alex.

-Tom

[White Will]

Originally Posted by Jim Giles

I challenge you to a fist fight. Man to man. Toe to toe. No weapons. No gloves. Bare fists.

I just called Mississippi's Law Enforcement Training academy and inquired if we could fight on their property and they told me no but that we could fight at Gober's family fitness center in Brandon.

This will be helpful in recruiting more people to your cause. When you get to town give me a call. My telephone number is 601-936-3825.

No more talk.

I don't have a cause in Mississippi, Bub, you do. That sort of irrational bluster might garner gobs of goober votes from the Gober Klan down in your neck o' the woods, but here in NC we require at least the appearance of insult before mixing it up with someone. You'll have to remind me what it is that I said to you that got your panties all wadded up in the crack of your ass, Jim -- it escapes me. Maybe I didn't make myself clear. My only beef is with one Harold A. Covington.

I know one thing: your skin is so thin that you must be a bleeder. You might want to rethink that bare-knuckle challenge stuff, Jim, wear some head gear and go with 16-ounce pillows on your opponent's hands so you won't get so much blood in your eyes. When you finally get someone to accept your goofy challenge, that is.

I know what you can do. Challenge your primary opponent! And then when you beat him you can meet the candidate from the opposing party at Gober's for all the marbles -- promote it as the "Brannigan in Brandon!" You wouldn't want to fight me, anyway. I don't fight fair. I fight dirty. I don't abide by the Marquess d' Queensberry's rules that you guys down at Gober's family grill and gym do. I bite and gouge, use head butts and kick a man with my steel-toed boots when I have him down. That wouldn't help YOUR cause at all, especially down there at Gober's in front of all those goobers whose votes you cherish.