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Old November 21st, 2012 #2
Steven L. Akins
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I agree, and so far we have pretty much stayed out of it, apart from Hillary going over there to look diplomatic.
 
Old November 21st, 2012 #3
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I agree, and so far we have pretty much stayed out of it, apart from Hillary going over there to look diplomatic.
Stop Pretending Washington is an Uninvolved Party in the Israeli Assault on Gaza
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......The reality is precisely the opposite: Israeli aggression is possible only because of direct, affirmative, unstinting U.S. diplomatic, financial and military support for Israel and everything it does.

This self-flattering depiction of the U.S. as uninvolved, neutral party is the worst media fiction since TV news personalities covered the Arab Spring by pretending that the U.S. is and long has been on the side of the heroic democratic protesters, rather than the key force that spent decades propping up the tyrannies they were fighting.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...gaza-us-policy
 
Old November 24th, 2012 #4
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Israel's moral blackmail and political manipulation of America has turned America into another Germany: America has been a dupe, a patsy, a despotate and ceaselessly milked cow for the benefit of Israel for almost 70 years now.
We've been swindled into buying their goods at mark up prices, giving them "loans" with no interest or timescale for repayment, aid up front so they can "invest" it and suck even more blood through usury and right now America is at a point where the military "aid" budget given to Israel per year is 3+ billion dollars and accounts for more than half of reported Israel military spending.

Ask any right thinking person the cost of Israel to America and they will calculate hundreds of billions and if the cost of having a gargantuan military that spends more than the rest of the world put together on behalf of Israel is concerned the costs are into the tens of trillions. Just Iraq and Afghanistan occupation and Judaization (in the name of democracy as elections are rigged to benefit Big Money interests) probably has a 5 to 6 trillion dollar price tag with kikes making out like bandits.

Through it all, American politicians say they are "neutral." To my mind, America has forked over at least a trillion of what amounts to colony money to a country the size of New Jersey and has fought a collective 20 year's worth of occupational, colonial war on Israel's behalf.

NEUTRAL. Hah!

When the United Nations voted overwhelmingly in favor of recognition of statehood for Palestine and membership in the United Nations, which country was the chief opponent to it ultimately the veto vote? The "neutral" United States, right?
 
Old November 24th, 2012 #5
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Israel is claiming you are sending your troops over to Sinai next week - hardly uninvolved/neutral if true.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=148376 posts 1, 4 and 21 are relevant - the rest turned into a megaphoning crapfest.

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Israel and Palestine are momentarily at a ceasefire, but the potential reasoning behind the recess could have some real international implications. Israel’s Debka reports that the pause in fighting comes after the US promised to send troops to Sinai.

According to Debka, US troops will soon be en route to the Sinai peninsula, Egyptian territory in North Africa that’s framed by the Suez Canal on the West and Israel on the East. In its northeast most point, Sinai is but a stone’s throw from Palestinian-controlled Gaza, and according to Debka, Hamas fighters there have been relying on Iranian arms smugglers to supply them with weaponry by way of Egypt.

Debka reports this week that Sinai will soon be occupied by US troops, who were promised by President Barack Obama to Israel’s leaders as a condition that a ceasefire be called. Once deployed, the Americans will intervene with the rumored arms trade orchestrated by Iranians, ideally cutting off supplies for Hamas while at the same time serving as a thorn in the side of Iran.
http://rt.com/usa/news/ceasefire-us-sinai-israel-435/
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Old November 24th, 2012 #6
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Wasn't the reason to vote for Obama as a WN was that he wasn't owned by Israel? Oh as if somebody could be president for 4 years without getting assassinated if that were the case.
 
Old November 24th, 2012 #7
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Wasn't the reason to vote for Obama as a WN was that he wasn't owned by Israel? Oh as if somebody could be president for 4 years without getting assassinated if that were the case.
No, I've seen you construe it like that before, and I don't think it's entirely accurate. What was said, or rather observed, was that Romney was even worse than Obama in his Israel subserviance, or more accurately: that he clearly and demonstrably was the choice of the sitting radical war-mongering Likud-Netanyahu faction; and that had he won, a war against Iran would've not only been possible but very probable.
 
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