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Old March 28th, 2021 #1
Jerry Abbott
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Default Jordan Peterson vs me on Race, on the Heritability of Human Quality, and on Racial Pride

I'm responding to some of Jordan Peterson's comments in this video:


Jordan Peterson is sometimes right, but he is often wrong.

For example, some groups (races) are indeed worth more than others. The test of worth is simple. If you allocate resources to enable Race B, and all you get is violence, dependency, no significant culture, and no technical progress, then you have wasted those resources. On the other hand, if you allocate resources to enable Race A, and you get a peaceful society of productive people, much culture, and much technical progress, then you have wisely invested those resources. While it is true that any race you examine will turn out to excel other races in some ability or other, it is also true that not all abilities are equally important, and that some races are, overall, better than other races.

Worth, is, after all, relative to the welfare of people. If some people can create better than others, and can produce more of those better creations than others can, have a higher ratio of benefits to liabilities to mankind in general, then they are a sort of natural elite, having a worth greater that of those others.

Peterson is also wrong about the reasonableness of having pride in one's race. He set up a straw man argument in which he replaced what that pride really is with something that it is not. Peterson averred that being proud of your race involves laying a personal claim of credit for what other members of your race, e.g. your ancestors, did. And that isn't the basis of race pride at all. Rather, one is proud of his race in the same sense that one might be proud of his father, who did great and wonderful things when he was alive. You aren't claiming his achievements as your achievements. You are just proud to have him as your father. Likewise, you may be proud of your race, which has done great and wonderful things. You aren't claiming its achievements as your own achievements.

But human ability is, to a large extent, hereditary. To be sure, abilities often require training before they reach their zenith, but no amount of training will enable anyone to surpass their innate limitations. If your ancestors have proved, by their deeds, that they are very able persons, persons of high quality overall and especially in certain particular respects, if your ancestors proved, in other words, that they had a lot of Good Stuff in them, then the chances are high that you have some of that Good Stuff in you, too.
 
Old March 28th, 2021 #2
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some races are, overall, better than other races.
The proof of this lies in the incessant caterwauling for recognition of "equality." If there actually ever was "equality" then the subject would never come up, since there would be no distinctions to be noticed.
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