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Old May 30th, 2012 #121
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Again this belongs on the "Living Saints of White Nationalism" thread but I don't have time to start it. Hadding should have seen what I did to the Whigger Cheerleaders on the Steele thread. He would have us believe that this doesn't exist either.
I can't make sense out of what you are saying. I've looked at your Steele thread occasionally. I've often had the impression that you were making the matter more complicated than it is, to the point that you were practically arguing with yourself.

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Of course, Pierce did a lot of good work, but I think he was blackmailed and controlled by the Famous But Incompetent.
It's an opinion that you pulled out of your ass and can't support. Don't you understand that NOBODY was prosecuted for receiving money from the Order? I think it may be because, except in the case of Glenn Miller, there was no living firsthand witness.

In Dr. Pierce's case, the only person other than Dr. Pierce that knew how much if any money Mathews gave him was Mathews himself, and he was dead.

"Through the window, Zillah says, she saw Bob give Pierce the paper bag." That's what Zillah Craig said. According to Dr. Pierce there was a bush blocking her view, so that she really couldn't have seen that. She also doesn't know how much money Mathews had put in the bag.

With the National Alliance's "fund-raising drive" Dr. Pierce had a good explanation for whatever unusual windfall he may have received.

You and Harold Covington are the only ones making this "Federal informant" accusation, and Covington has zero credibility. Yours is going down fast.

What kind of information was Dr. Pierce supposed to be collecting in a completely legal organization? Nobody asked or suggested that I should do anything as a member of the National Alliance that was prosecutable. The people that try to encourage those around them to do illegal acts, or at least behave in a way that makes the cause disreputable -- those are the operatives.

Why did the FBI have to look for the membership-list in a landfill if the head of the organization was their informant?

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Assuming that those American Front defendants in Florida hope to be exonerated of any terrorist conspiracy, Bill White's blather about political terror against the jurors and public officials doesn't help. It just contributes to a false impression that there is some danger from militant racists that has to be addressed.

It reminds me of how Harold Covington ran his mouth when some of his NSPA members were on trial for an alleged bomb-plot in the early 80s, or how he tried to make himself part of the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan.

Bill White is trying to make himself a vicarious participant in "political terror" that doesn't exist and would be ineffectual if attempted. If I were one of those American Front defendants hoping not to spend years in prison I would want Bill White to stfu about political terror.

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Looks like Facebook removed White's account.
 
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It's still there. http://www.facebook.com/bill.white.7370

He's in Death Valley, CA now. Bill gets around!
 
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I can't make sense out of what you are saying. I've looked at your Steele thread occasionally. I've often had the impression that you were making the matter more complicated than it is, to the point that you were practically arguing with yourself.

It's an opinion that you pulled out of your ass and can't support. Don't you understand that NOBODY was prosecuted for receiving money from the Order? I think it may be because, except in the case of Glenn Miller, there was no living firsthand witness.

In Dr. Pierce's case, the only person other than Dr. Pierce that knew how much if any money Mathews gave him was Mathews himself, and he was dead.

"Through the window, Zillah says, she saw Bob give Pierce the paper bag." That's what Zillah Craig said. According to Dr. Pierce there was a bush blocking her view, so that she really couldn't have seen that. She also doesn't know how much money Mathews had put in the bag.

With the National Alliance's "fund-raising drive" Dr. Pierce had a good explanation for whatever unusual windfall he may have received.

You and Harold Covington are the only ones making this "Federal informant" accusation, and Covington has zero credibility. Yours is going down fast.

What kind of information was Dr. Pierce supposed to be collecting in a completely legal organization? Nobody asked or suggested that I should do anything as a member of the National Alliance that was prosecutable. The people that try to encourage those around them to do illegal acts, or at least behave in a way that makes the cause disreputable -- those are the operatives.

Why did the FBI have to look for the membership-list in a landfill if the head of the organization was their informant?
First it is not my Steele thread. I merely try to enlighten readers since it is likely that I am the world's expert on the case. I have spent far more time on it than anyone else. The Steele case is merely an unfortunate medical accident and he was not entrapped. It interested me for the same reason that Pravda Bill's case interested me.

The question to be answered is:"If White Nationalists avoid OBVIOUS illegal activity, do they risk entrapment by the FBI?".

Pierce asked for FBI blackmail by taking the Mathews bank robbery money. He asked for it again by letting his mailing list fall into their hands. Take up the matter with the Famous But Incompetent and Pierce's biographer. Both are sources that you denied that existed which I have published. I didn't even dig up the usual sometimes useful smears from the ADL and the Poverty Pimp. If the FBI DIDN'T blackmail Pierce under these conditions, I have lost all confidence in them.

David Duke has likely been blackmailed and controlled after his riverboat gambling spree just like Pierce was. The IRS is like a diamond, they are forever.

Pravda Bill asked for it by going over the line. I begged him for years to tame it a bit. His published threats would have been immune from prosecution if he had backed off 10%. His hate magazine was world class and has been out of print for years. He pissed away all of his good work. Since he is a fugitive, it is unlikely that he is being controlled by the FBI. They also apparently failed to break him in prison.

The Randy Weaver case was entrapment although he prevailed eventually. It cost him his wife, his baby, getting shot and time in jail to get his $3 million from the FBI. Weaver was a fool to saw off the barrel on that informant's shotgun. The informant kept after him a year to do it. He unfortunately cut it off 0.25" too short to be legal. I have met him several times at local gunshows and overheard some of his conversations. To quote his lawyer Gerry Spence:"Randy Weaver is a simple man.". Simple men do not belong in the public eye for White Nationalism. This is major league ball.

I do not know the facts well in the Matt Hale case. If arrogance were a crime, he should have been hung for it. From what I know, he was framed by an informant and that framing was quite dubious. It seems to me that he should have spotted that informant. I never associate with anyone locally on projects unless I have known them for years. Hale's failure was in not handling his own case and trusting scum sucking lawyers to do the job. He should have testified in his own defense. He had passed the Illinois bar exam and was qualified to practice law in Federal Courts. He now admits that and is handling his own appeal.

Terrible Tommie has been hating for over 40 years and has never been convicted of anything more than disturbing the peace. The ATF is still trying to connect him to the Mahon Brother's pipe bombing. I find it hard to believe that Tommie would have been dumb enough to give the government incriminating phone taps. Surely he learned something in 20 years of making payments to the family of that worthless Ethiopian killed by his skinheads. However I was repeatedly surprised on the Steele case and Tommie bears further study.

Kevin Strom has pleaded guilty to all charges involving child pornography so his case is not relevant.

It seems that Travis Massey and Shaun Walker got rather severe sentences in Utah for a bar brawl. However I saw both of them get into fights here. They came down to help us sell hate books at a gunshow. The night before they smarted off to a bunch of Negroes at a 7-11 store. They showed up with four black eyes the next day and were quite an embarrassment at our hate booth. I wasn't in charge or I would have made them leave.

My best guess is that it is neither necessary nor sufficient to be a living saint if you are in the public eye in White Nationalism. It is necessary to avoid obvious violations of the law. Mr Linder has been a good boy for the last several years and has not been in any more fights with the cops. It seems to me that he is a high profile target and has not been touched.

My conclusion is that those of us in the public eye have certain risks which cannot be avoided. This is combat and certain losses have to be expected. On the other hand, almost all of our losses have been from easily avoidable stupidity.

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Pravda Bill checks in with us from Death Valley, California. He is a traveling man. He also has a job tip for Hadding. I take no position on this post so don't shoot the messenger. BTW I chatted with him extensively on his previous Facebook account from last December, not long after he was released from prison. That account has been deleted.

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If Hadding Scott is not working for the FBI, he should go down to his local office and put in an application.

For the past ten years that I have encountered Hadding, he has shown himself to be one of the foulest and consistently pro-Jewish and pro-fed members of the white nationalist movement. Not only does he share Kevin Strom's proclivities for little girls, but he attacks anything of value any white person is doing, while doing nothing of value himself. That last trait -- constantly critiquing, never producing -- is one of the trademarks of the kind of person that the federal government pays to "manage" politically dissident movements for them.

They can't find me and arrest me to shut me up, so they go and pay someone like Hadding Scott to go on internet forums where I cannot respond and spew nonsense.

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He also has a job tip for Hadding. I take no position on this post so don't shoot the messenger.
Stupid bullshit. He seems to be used to talking to people that will believe anything.

What April Gaede said about Harold Covington is completely applicable to Bill White:

Harold likes to lie, he lies about everything and everybody eventually. He is very jealous of anyone who seems to be making any headway in the movement and [he bears] unreasonable anger against anyone who disagrees with him on anything that he says or does.[April Gaede, Stormfront, 30 September 2011]


Substitute "Bill" for "Harold" and it fits. They both also enjoy extreme posturing and like to hint at violence that they want somebody else to do. At this point both of them are also in hiding, evading legal consequences that they incurred through asinine behavior (in Covington's case, service of papers to attach his income and a 30-day prison term in NC for violating an injunction) while continuing to issue communications. They're the same type. Bill White is Covington Junior.

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Old May 30th, 2012 #128
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Stupid bullshit.

He seems to be used to talking to people that will believe anything.
Pravda Bill is always entertaining. There are several comments after the post on his Facebook account that are interesting. He must have flown off an Iranian ship off the California coast on a helicopter and penetrated our laughing stock Air Defense zones. He will be gone from Death Valley before the FBI gets there. There will be nothing left but a big dust cloud from the rotor wash.
 
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Does anyone know for sure that the Facebook page claiming to be Bill White's is actually his? Has anyone talked with any of his family to see if they know anything of his whereabouts?

What if that Facebook page is just a honey pot and those articles in the Roanoke newspapers aren't true?
I have chatted with him extensively on that Facebook page and there is no doubt that is him. He knows many things about me that only he would know. There are no signs that he is crazy or mentally unbalanced. However, the jury is still out as to whether it is wise for him to be twisting the FBI's tail. I am enjoying the show.
 
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I think it unwise to participate with Bill White in posting the addresses of people he doesn't like. Could be construed as conspiracy.

That whole Facebook page wreaks of a honey pot to me.
 
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I'm known Hadding for a pretty long time. The only thing Hadding is guilty of is keeping us in the same ole rut with his calls for continuing to work within an utterly corrupt system. Hadding is what he purports to be, a white nationalist stuck in the 1930s
 
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Pierce asked for FBI blackmail by taking the Mathews bank robbery money. He asked for it again by letting his mailing list fall into their hands.
That is pure surmise on your part, and very shaky for reasons that I already stated.

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I'm known Hadding for a pretty long time. The only thing Hadding is guilty of is keeping us in the same ole rut with his calls for continuing to work within an utterly corrupt system. Hadding is what he purports to be, a white nationalist stuck in the 1930s
Admittedly the system is terminally corrupt and cannot be changed peacefully. However, it is possible for us to survive until the collapse of the economy and government and the blood flows ankle deep in the street. At this point the gloves come off and legality is a moot point. In the meantime, we don't need our best people locked up in Federal prison.
 
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The most amazing thing on the Steele case is that his wife claims to believe that he was framed in spite of the incontrovertible evidence that he went crazy after aorta surgery. Cyndi continues to have her hand out and may be using the case to avoid having to get a job. She has put out the unbelievable claim that Steele's legal bills have exceeded $400,000. She also has changed her story from many months ago that his supporters have given $120,000 and now claims that they have only given $71,000.

Pravda Bill relates troubles with his woman which are to be expected from a Material Girl. This is another reason to avoid Federal prison if you have family members. Most of them cannot take the stress or will step on you when you are down.

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What happened to my ex-wife and my money?

I have been trying to divorce my ex-wife for about a year and a half now. We had progressed in the Roanoke Courts to the point where she had admitted most of what follows in open court, had abandoned her demands for child support and a for cause divorce from me, and we had an agreement for joint custody where she had agreed to repay me $78,000 of the approximately $2.3 million she had stolen from me, and she was making payments before I was forced to leave the United States. However, believing that she can take advantage of me because I am not in the US, she has now said she isn't going to pay anything and is not going to allow me to communicate with my daughter -- and I am in the process of teaching her a lesson about that.

When I was arrested my ex-wife pretended to be very supporting of me and to just care so much about me in order to con everyone she could out of everything she could. In truth, she did everything she could to keep me in prison, take my money, and guarantee I would not receive a legal defense. Because what she did meshed so well with the goals of the federal government, they chose not to prosecute her for embezzling from a bankruptcy court and other crimes; such is the nature of justice in the United States.

The day I was arrested my ex-wife began emptying my bank accounts and embezzling money from my companies. She called various people and claimed I had left her "without money" and "starving" and "in need of food" and borrowed, over the course of the next six months, about $30,000 - $40,000 from individuals I know based upon those excuses. During those same six months, she bought a $6000 set of living room furniture and a $3000 bedroom set, as well as a new car for $18,000. She also applied for and received disability from her job -- so, while she was telling people she was "starving" and "couldn't afford" rent or food, she was receiving $2200 a month in disability in addition to as much as $22,000 a month from my investments, which she pillaged.

Sometime in late 2009, my wife allowed a prostitute from Chapman Ave named Jody MacFarlane to move in with her. This followed a relationship my wife had with another woman off of Chapman Ave, to which my ex-wife gave one of the fully paid for cars we owned before my arrest. My ex-wife attempted to give Jody our other car, but could not acquire the title to do so. She did give Jody substantial amounts of money, and spent other money on drugs -- Jody being part of a set that was selling heroin and running a prostitution agency out of 1212 Chapman Ave. My wife gave this group three other buildings to use to house junkies and sell drugs during the period 2009 -2010.

In early 2010, my ex-wife, who, by her own bank records, was spending at least $4000 a month taking herself and her friends out to eat, stopped paying her rent and her utility bills and skipped out on a house she had rented in Old Southwest Roanoke. She told a lot of people she "couldn't afford it", but the rent was $900 a month and her disability alone was $2200 after taxes and insurance.

While she was squandering the money I left her, my ex-wife was working hard to make sure I could not be released from prison to discover what she was doing. As early as three months after my release, the Office of the Bankruptcy Trustee noticed that $25,000 was missing from the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy estate - my wife just falsified the paperwork and claimed the money "never existed". Claiming that money she stole "never existed" was a favorite tactic of my wife during my incarceration. People liked to believe it because they wanted to believe that I was and had always been a mentally ill, delusional, dishonest failure -- and my ex-wife exploited that to steal all she could.

My ex-wife contacted everyone political she could after my arrest and told them not to show any support for me. She encouraged people to send her money -- I know a number of people who sent her a combined few thousand in donations -- and she told me that she never received a dollar.

My ex-wife contacted potential witnesses in my case and told them they should not testify in my defense because she had found pictures of my "Uncle Shcmuely" and had hard evidence that I was Jewish. (Both sides of my family have genealogies going back to the 17th century; I am not Jewish). She also told my lawyers that I was Jewish and told them to bring this up in Court as proof I was "mentally ill". She was so strenuous on this point that my lawyers actually sat me down and had a conference where they accused me of being Jewish and lying about, predicting the dire consequences that would emerge if the government brought this up in court after I had "lied."

My lawyers in Roanoke despised me and deliberately flubbed my case. I actually wrote my own briefs for the post-trial motions; David Damico said he didn't want to file post-trial motions because they were "pointless" and because "Judge Turk didn't care" and the "case had no chance on appeal." In fact, David made it very clear that he felt I was guilty on all counts throughout the trial, and that any acquittal I received would be a result of his skill at lying to a jury. I found Damico disgusting almost from day one -- but part of this was the attitude my ex-wife had instilled in him.

Before I had even gotten to Roanoke to stand trial, my ex-wife had told my attorneys that I was mentally ill and delusional and probably suffering from bi-polar disorder. She said she was "afraid" for me to be released because I was "violent" and had encouraged them not to seek bond. She was so persuasive that Damico refused to allow me to take a full battery of psychological tests because of the potential results.

It should be noted that I have taken the MMPI in the past and scored within the sub-pathological range on all criteria, with two "elevated" but not "disorderly" personality traits. It should also be noted that I eventually took numerous psychological examinations during my bond hearing and was found to be sane and not suffering from any sort of serious mental disorder.

My attorneys refused to work with me during the course of my Roanoke trial and actively insulted several of the people that I had encouraged them to call as witnesses. Several people who had important evidence to give were explicitly told not to testify, and I was urged to allow my attorneys to conduct a defense without evidence and without witnesses. My version of events was completely disregarded by Damico and Ferris; it wasn't until days before my sentencing, when I finally obtained a transcript of Hal Turner's trial indicating that I had been arrested when I was because of an email he sent accusing me of plotting to kill Obama that Damico finally believed that Turner had been involved in my case. In fact, when I showed him the transcript, he looked down and somewhat ashamed, because he had explicitly told me on several occasions that Turner's involvement in my case was a "fantasy" and had told others that my allegation Turner had informed on me was a "delusion" and proof of my "mental instability".

In my later Chicago trial, the FBI released in discovery a six page report indicating the importance of arresting me immediately based upon evidence given them by Harold Turner.

Based upon my wife's statements, my attorney, David Damico, also held a private meeting with James Turk, in which he informed Judge Turk that I was unrepentant and that I needed a substantial sentence in order to "teach me a lesson", changing Turk's mind away from sentencing me to the middle of my guidelines and / or releasing me at sentencing.

While sabotaging my legal defense in Roanoke, my ex-wife was also defrauding me. On a daily basis, she provided me with financial information about herself and my companies that was incorrect. Essentially, she was literally too lazy to drive out and collect rent even when it was offered to her, so she would just report money collected that she was too busy to go and get for herself. She would also take money and spend it on food, drugs and her "friends" and report it spent on items such as utility bills and repairs.

Shortly after my transfer to FCI Beckley, my ex-wife told people that I was "never" going to be released from prison, and thus she felt justified in destroying everything I had and taking my little girl from me. My ex-wife wrote two letters to FCI Beckley telling them was "still involved in white supremacist gang activity" and that she did not want me released to a half way house because she was physically afraid of me and believed that, if released, I would start retaliating violently against federal officials. As a result of her letters, and my continuing refusal to cooperate with the federal government, I was denied my scheduled release to a halfway house in July 2009 and transferred back to a super-maximum security unit. When the Chicago indictment was reinstated against me, I was then subjected, again, to torture, based upon the Bureau of Prison's belief, substantiated by my wife and the Chicago US Attorney, that I would "never" be released.

When I discovered my ex-wife's treachery, and the fact that my ex-wife had emptied my bank accounts and absconded with my daughter -- whom my ex-wife was refusing to take to visit me -- I revoked my ex-wife's power of attorney. In response, my ex-wife literally unlocked every one of the buildings I owned in Roanoke, told people she would no longer manage them, and encouraged them to go into the buildings, strip out the wire and plumbing, and then set them on fire -- which is precisely what happened to about 25 pieces of real estate I once owned. She then pawned everything I owned that she could move, and abandoned the rest of my personal property in the house where she was refusing to pay rent, and moved in with her mother -- a nutty bitch who lost her nursing license after she killed one patient by giving them the wrong medication, and then, at a separate job, walked out on a unit of critically ill patients, leaving them unattended for an entire shift, because she felt she did not have enough medical assistants supporting her that night.

And, this was not enough for my ex-wife. She contacted my elderly parents and persuaded them not to allow me to use my parent's address as a release address. As a result of this, had I not been ordered detained by Judge Adelman, the Bureau of Prisons had planned to revoke my three months of good time for the cause of "not having a release address."

When I was about to be released, she persuaded my parents to give her the bank card of an account where they had set aside money for a plane ticket so I could fly home from Chicago, and emptied the account.

My ex-wife also killed my cat, Chester, so as to guarantee that I would not dispute with her who owned him -- she gave him to a shelter to be "put to sleep", saying she "couldn't have cats" where she was living -- though she lives with five cats and two dogs. During our custody dispute, when it appeared she would lose full custody, she similarly threatened to harm my daughter if I wouldn't agree to joint custody.

What was my ex-wife's motivation? She wanted control of me. During our entire marriage enjoyed a lot of my time and money. We would travel two Vegas at least twice a year, to Mexico or the Caribbean at least once, and we would travel together somewhere at least once a month within Virginia and the surrounding states. We ate out maybe three to four times a week, went to the movies regularly, and spent most of our time when we were not working together. However, this was not enough for my ex-wife. She would constantly complain that going out for nights a week was not enough -- we should go out every night. If I came home and tried to balance my books in the evening, that was "too much time working". She hated my business because it meant I spent time during the day doing something other than hanging around her. She often tried to sabotage me financially and personally during our marriage, and the fact was that I just was making too much money to really notice that she was destroying as much as she could get her hands on.

So my ex-wife destroyed everything I had because she thought it would make me dependent on her and thus she could "possess" me. If she could run off all of my friends, alienate my family and business partners, destroy my source of income, destroy my possessions and destroy my home, then I would be left with "nothing", and I would have to live off of her. That's not rational -- but that is how she thought.

So that is what happened to my ex-wife and my money. Today, my ex-wife is still doing everything she can to, first, effect my arrest; second, steal my money -- in fact, she recently deliberately wrote me a bad check just because she knew it would cost me a lot of fees when it bounced; and third, keep my daughter from communicating with me. She is, in my mind, worse than the federal government, and did more to hurt me than anyone in the US government ever could have.

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At this point the gloves come off and legality is a moot point.
That's an overstatement. There is obvious anti-racist bias, so that if the outcome of a legal process depends on some ambiguous point, or a point that seems ambiguous to a jury, it tends to go against the racist, if race was presented as a factor in the case. But where the facts and the law are unambiguously on the racist's side, even a racist will be found not guilty. We don't need to assume that an accusation against a racist means automatic conviction. It's very bad for us to think that way.

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I'm known Hadding for a pretty long time. The only thing Hadding is guilty of is keeping us in the same ole rut with his calls for continuing to work within an utterly corrupt system. Hadding is what he purports to be, a white nationalist stuck in the 1930s
"I'm known"? You're ebonics is pretty good rastus. But shouldn't it be "Ib'z m'nowin"?
 
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Somebody that is well informed pointed this out to me, in regard to Donald Pauly's tenacious attachment to the notion that Dr. Pierce was vulnerable to prosecution by the IRS for presumably not reporting whatever sum he may have received from Bob Mathews:

Gifts are non-income under the income tax code. Book-sales are income. Memberships are income. Gifts are not. See 26 USC Sec. 102(a):

"General rule Gross income does not include the value of property acquired by gift, bequest, devise, or inheritance."

So, no, Dr. Pierce did not have to report to the IRS whatever Mathews gave him.

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That's an overstatement. There is obvious anti-racist bias, so that if the outcome of a legal process depends on some ambiguous point, or a point that seems ambiguous to a jury, it tends to go against the racist, if race was presented as a factor in the case. But where the facts and the law are clearly on the racist's side, even a racist will be found not guilty. We don't need to assume that an accusation against a racist means automatic conviction. It's very bad for us to think that way.
You misunderstood me. When the government and economy have collapsed AND the blood is running ankle deep in the street, legality is a moot point. It will be law of the jungle. Lawyers and cops will be running for their lives.
 
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Somebody that is well informed pointed this out to me, in regard to Donald Pauly's tenacious attachment to the notion that Dr. Pierce was vulnerable to prosecution by the IRS for presumably not reporting whatever sum he may have received from Bob Mathews:

Gifts are non-income under the income tax code. Book-sales are income. Memberships are income. Gifts are not. See 26 USC Sec. 102(a):

"General rule Gross income does not include the value of property acquired by gift, bequest, devise, or inheritance."

So, no, Dr. Pierce did not have to report to the IRS whatever Mathews gave him.
You usually know what you are talking about but you have repeatedly failed on this issue. Gifts are currently exempt up to $13,000 PER YEAR. Steele required all of his contributions to be gifts to him personally for that very reason on his website. In 1984 the limit was $10,000 see http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/..._2003Apr09.pdf .

The FBI had Pierce blackmailed for bank robbery money and the recovered mailing list both. He would forever dance to their tune. In a small town like Hillsboro, payment of $400,000 in cash in current dollars for some land stuck out like a sore thumb. ($95,000 in 1984 dollars) The whole town knew about it. The Sheriff knew about it as the biography stated and he no doubt told the FBI. Even then there were numerous informants in the National Alliance membership. Much of the FOIA file was blacked out. The FBI frequently does not prosecute when the blackmail opportunity is more useful.
 
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You usually know what you are talking about but you have repeatedly failed on this issue. Gifts are currently exempt up to $13,000 PER YEAR.
That's somebody else's knowledge. I don't pretend to know anything about the tax-code, except that there was a big change in 1986, in the direction of reducing tax-avoidance.

Your accusation already had no leg on which to stand, before I posted that.

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The FBI had Pierce blackmailed for bank robbery money and the recovered mailing list both.
Now you've progressed from a poorly founded innuendo to an unsupportable accusation.

For some reason you want to say this. I guess it makes you feel that your life has meaning.

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