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In Dr. Pierce's case, the only person other than Dr. Pierce that knew how much if any money Mathews gave him was Mathews himself, and he was dead. "Through the window, Zillah says, she saw Bob give Pierce the paper bag." That's what Zillah Craig said. According to Dr. Pierce there was a bush blocking her view, so that she really couldn't have seen that. She also doesn't know how much money Mathews had put in the bag. With the National Alliance's "fund-raising drive" Dr. Pierce had a good explanation for whatever unusual windfall he may have received. You and Harold Covington are the only ones making this "Federal informant" accusation, and Covington has zero credibility. Yours is going down fast. What kind of information was Dr. Pierce supposed to be collecting in a completely legal organization? Nobody asked or suggested that I should do anything as a member of the National Alliance that was prosecutable. The people that try to encourage those around them to do illegal acts, or at least behave in a way that makes the cause disreputable -- those are the operatives. Why did the FBI have to look for the membership-list in a landfill if the head of the organization was their informant?
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Assuming that those American Front defendants in Florida hope to be exonerated of any terrorist conspiracy, Bill White's blather about political terror against the jurors and public officials doesn't help. It just contributes to a false impression that there is some danger from militant racists that has to be addressed.
It reminds me of how Harold Covington ran his mouth when some of his NSPA members were on trial for an alleged bomb-plot in the early 80s, or how he tried to make himself part of the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. Bill White is trying to make himself a vicarious participant in "political terror" that doesn't exist and would be ineffectual if attempted. If I were one of those American Front defendants hoping not to spend years in prison I would want Bill White to stfu about political terror.
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Looks like Facebook removed White's account.
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Don't Get Hadding Excited
It's still there. http://www.facebook.com/bill.white.7370
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The question to be answered is:"If White Nationalists avoid OBVIOUS illegal activity, do they risk entrapment by the FBI?". Pierce asked for FBI blackmail by taking the Mathews bank robbery money. He asked for it again by letting his mailing list fall into their hands. Take up the matter with the Famous But Incompetent and Pierce's biographer. Both are sources that you denied that existed which I have published. I didn't even dig up the usual sometimes useful smears from the ADL and the Poverty Pimp. If the FBI DIDN'T blackmail Pierce under these conditions, I have lost all confidence in them. David Duke has likely been blackmailed and controlled after his riverboat gambling spree just like Pierce was. The IRS is like a diamond, they are forever. Pravda Bill asked for it by going over the line. I begged him for years to tame it a bit. His published threats would have been immune from prosecution if he had backed off 10%. His hate magazine was world class and has been out of print for years. He pissed away all of his good work. Since he is a fugitive, it is unlikely that he is being controlled by the FBI. They also apparently failed to break him in prison. The Randy Weaver case was entrapment although he prevailed eventually. It cost him his wife, his baby, getting shot and time in jail to get his $3 million from the FBI. Weaver was a fool to saw off the barrel on that informant's shotgun. The informant kept after him a year to do it. He unfortunately cut it off 0.25" too short to be legal. I have met him several times at local gunshows and overheard some of his conversations. To quote his lawyer Gerry Spence:"Randy Weaver is a simple man.". Simple men do not belong in the public eye for White Nationalism. This is major league ball. I do not know the facts well in the Matt Hale case. If arrogance were a crime, he should have been hung for it. From what I know, he was framed by an informant and that framing was quite dubious. It seems to me that he should have spotted that informant. I never associate with anyone locally on projects unless I have known them for years. Hale's failure was in not handling his own case and trusting scum sucking lawyers to do the job. He should have testified in his own defense. He had passed the Illinois bar exam and was qualified to practice law in Federal Courts. He now admits that and is handling his own appeal. Terrible Tommie has been hating for over 40 years and has never been convicted of anything more than disturbing the peace. The ATF is still trying to connect him to the Mahon Brother's pipe bombing. I find it hard to believe that Tommie would have been dumb enough to give the government incriminating phone taps. Surely he learned something in 20 years of making payments to the family of that worthless Ethiopian killed by his skinheads. However I was repeatedly surprised on the Steele case and Tommie bears further study. Kevin Strom has pleaded guilty to all charges involving child pornography so his case is not relevant. It seems that Travis Massey and Shaun Walker got rather severe sentences in Utah for a bar brawl. However I saw both of them get into fights here. They came down to help us sell hate books at a gunshow. The night before they smarted off to a bunch of Negroes at a 7-11 store. They showed up with four black eyes the next day and were quite an embarrassment at our hate booth. I wasn't in charge or I would have made them leave. My best guess is that it is neither necessary nor sufficient to be a living saint if you are in the public eye in White Nationalism. It is necessary to avoid obvious violations of the law. Mr Linder has been a good boy for the last several years and has not been in any more fights with the cops. It seems to me that he is a high profile target and has not been touched. My conclusion is that those of us in the public eye have certain risks which cannot be avoided. This is combat and certain losses have to be expected. On the other hand, almost all of our losses have been from easily avoidable stupidity. Last edited by Donald E. Pauly; May 30th, 2012 at 10:55 AM. Reason: typos |
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Pravda Bill Posts from Death Valley
Pravda Bill checks in with us from Death Valley, California. He is a traveling man. He also has a job tip for Hadding. I take no position on this post so don't shoot the messenger. BTW I chatted with him extensively on his previous Facebook account from last December, not long after he was released from prison. That account has been deleted.
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What April Gaede said about Harold Covington is completely applicable to Bill White: Harold likes to lie, he lies about everything and everybody eventually. He is very jealous of anyone who seems to be making any headway in the movement and [he bears] unreasonable anger against anyone who disagrees with him on anything that he says or does.[April Gaede, Stormfront, 30 September 2011] Substitute "Bill" for "Harold" and it fits. They both also enjoy extreme posturing and like to hint at violence that they want somebody else to do. At this point both of them are also in hiding, evading legal consequences that they incurred through asinine behavior (in Covington's case, service of papers to attach his income and a 30-day prison term in NC for violating an injunction) while continuing to issue communications. They're the same type. Bill White is Covington Junior.
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Pravda Bill Puts on a Good Show
Pravda Bill is always entertaining. There are several comments after the post on his Facebook account that are interesting. He must have flown off an Iranian ship off the California coast on a helicopter and penetrated our laughing stock Air Defense zones. He will be gone from Death Valley before the FBI gets there. There will be nothing left but a big dust cloud from the rotor wash.
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I think it unwise to participate with Bill White in posting the addresses of people he doesn't like. Could be construed as conspiracy.
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We luvs ya, Haddley
I'm known Hadding for a pretty long time. The only thing Hadding is guilty of is keeping us in the same ole rut with his calls for continuing to work within an utterly corrupt system. Hadding is what he purports to be, a white nationalist stuck in the 1930s
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That is pure surmise on your part, and very shaky for reasons that I already stated.
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Pravda Billl's Woman Troubles
The most amazing thing on the Steele case is that his wife claims to believe that he was framed in spite of the incontrovertible evidence that he went crazy after aorta surgery. Cyndi continues to have her hand out and may be using the case to avoid having to get a job. She has put out the unbelievable claim that Steele's legal bills have exceeded $400,000. She also has changed her story from many months ago that his supporters have given $120,000 and now claims that they have only given $71,000.
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That's an overstatement. There is obvious anti-racist bias, so that if the outcome of a legal process depends on some ambiguous point, or a point that seems ambiguous to a jury, it tends to go against the racist, if race was presented as a factor in the case. But where the facts and the law are unambiguously on the racist's side, even a racist will be found not guilty. We don't need to assume that an accusation against a racist means automatic conviction. It's very bad for us to think that way.
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Somebody that is well informed pointed this out to me, in regard to Donald Pauly's tenacious attachment to the notion that Dr. Pierce was vulnerable to prosecution by the IRS for presumably not reporting whatever sum he may have received from Bob Mathews:
So, no, Dr. Pierce did not have to report to the IRS whatever Mathews gave him.
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The FBI had Pierce blackmailed for bank robbery money and the recovered mailing list both. He would forever dance to their tune. In a small town like Hillsboro, payment of $400,000 in cash in current dollars for some land stuck out like a sore thumb. ($95,000 in 1984 dollars) The whole town knew about it. The Sheriff knew about it as the biography stated and he no doubt told the FBI. Even then there were numerous informants in the National Alliance membership. Much of the FOIA file was blacked out. The FBI frequently does not prosecute when the blackmail opportunity is more useful. |
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For some reason you want to say this. I guess it makes you feel that your life has meaning.
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