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Old November 30th, 2004 #1
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Default black football coach at ND FIRED

Call the moving van, another nigra's gots ta jet!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...v=ap&type=lgns

Notre Dame fires Willingham after three seasons

By TOM COYNE, AP Sports Writer
November 30, 2004
SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- Coach Tyrone Willingham was fired by Notre Dame on Tuesday after three seasons in which he failed to return one of the nation's most storied football programs to prominence.

Willingham went 21-15, including 6-5 this season. The Fighting Irish lost 41-10 to No. 1 Southern California on Saturday.
 
Old December 1st, 2004 #2
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I happen to be Irish,and I didn't see one god damn Irish thing there.

Tuition happens to be 40k/yr,but nig gets it for free.

Stop going to your games,fuck these nigs.

In fact stop watching monday night football,and all other nigger events.

STOP WATCHING PARTICIPATING IN ALL NIGGER EVENTS!!!!
 
Old December 1st, 2004 #3
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pretty close PWG! right now its 34.5 k.

http://education.yahoo.com/college/facts/9324.html
 
Old December 2nd, 2004 #4
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Tyrone Willingham got there too late, he missed his chance to meet Kim Dunbar.
She might have been able to "help him out."
The Kim Dunbar case
The first set of events considered in the case [ "NCAA
to investigate relationship between booster and players
" ] involved
gifts given to football players by a Notre Dame booster, Kim Dunbar,
between 1993 and 1998.
 
Old December 2nd, 2004 #5
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Kimberly Dunbar
Dunbar was convicted of embezzling $1.4 million from her former employer,
much of which she used to purchase lavish gifts and trips for various
[Notre Dame] football players.
A complaint filed in superior court in South Bend by Dunbar's former employer,
Jerry Dominiack, seeks repayment for the money and/or gifts received by the
players from Dunbar, according to ESPN news services. The complaint lists
eight players, including Jarvis Edison, whose gifts were
permissible because he [Edison] has a personal relationship and
child
with Dunbar
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Old December 2nd, 2004 #6
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Jarvis Edison
....Ray
Zellars
, Derrick Mayes, Edison, Lee Becton and
Kinnon Tatum
were among those named in the suit, which seeks to recover $1.4 million. On May 27, Dominiack's attorney, William Jonas, told the Tribune a minimum of 15 additional people, most of them former Notre Dame players and their friends or relatives, could be added to the suit if they do not agree to repay Dominiack for the value of their gifts from Dunbar.
....an assistant coach learned in 1996 that Dunbar had paid for a trip to Las
Vegas for herself, Edison, another player [Derrick Mayes] and his girlfriend.
The coach said he did not notify the NCAA because he believed the gifts were acceptable because of the romantic involvement between Dunbar and Edison, according to the NCAA report.
....Dunbar was
romantically involved with a few of the players
such as Jarvis Edison with whom she had a child and Derrick Mayes who now plays in the NFL. Dunbar took Derrick Mayes to Las Vegas with her in 1994. The coaching staff discovered this, but once they found out she was romantically involved with Mayes, they dropped it.
........According
to receipts included in court documents
, Dunbar paid for Mayes to fly
first class to Las Vegas at a cost of $1,836 and paid for the two nights they
spent at a luxury hotel. Their trip, from June 30 through July 2, 1995-before
his senior season-apparently took place after Dunbar paid $25 to join the
Quarterback Club.
Dunbar kept a journal, writing her entries at the end of each day, she told the
prosecutor. Some were recorded in neat shorthand. Others were scribbled
observations, with exclamation points and smiley faces adding emphasis. Dunbar recorded the times players called or visited, where they dined with her, what movies they watched, how late she arrived home and when they spent the night.
The trip to Kalamazoo with Mayes, according to her notes, was made in a navy blue stretch limousine on Valentine's Day 1995. She was not yet a member of the Quarterback Club.
For Feb. 14, Dunbar wrote: "1-1/2 hours to the Black Swan Rest. ate. Great,
very fancy."
A note 11 days later said Dunbar, Mayes and another couple traveled to the Mall of America in Minnesota.
"Rode rides-soaked!" she proclaimed. "Had to buy new clothes! Dinner thru Rm service."
The entry ends with a smiley face.
In an affidavit, Mayes maintained he had not had contact with Dunbar since July 1994. In an amended version, Mayes said the last time he had physical contact with Dunbar was July 1995.
Her diary entry for July 4, 1995, includes an oval she drew around the words
"Independence Day."
"D & I broke up. Jarvis called 9 pm got him, Foresst Gump. sp night."
Her relationship with Mayes was over. Jarvis Edison, a defensive back, had not yet begun his sophomore season. Dunbar was 25 years old. As Dunbar serves her sentence, her 3-year-old daughter, Jasmine Edison, is being cared for by Dunbar's mother. The anonymous, inspirational quotation for the first week of July 1995 in Kim Dunbar's diary reads: "It is wise to keep in mind that no success or failure is necessarily final."
 
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Ray Zellars (left), Derrick Mayes
....The NCAA has already established that Dunbar became a representative of the university in June 1995 when she joined the Quarterback Club. Court records show she purchased gifts and trips for several players after that date, including presents for players with whom she had personal relationships.
 
Old December 2nd, 2004 #8
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Among them were Jarvis Edison, with whom she has a child. She took him, fellow player Allen Rossum and Rossum's girlfriend
on a $10,000 trip to Las Vegas in 1997 to see the Evander Holyfield-Mike Tyson fight
. She also took then-boyfriend Derrick Mayes to Las Vegas in 1995, paying for his $1,836 ticket and a $756 stay at the Luxor, according to court documents.


Allen Rossum
 
Old December 2nd, 2004 #9
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No problem.As Paul Hornung ad one or two others said:"If they want to win again,they're going to have to LOWER THEIR (HIGH,AS ONLY SUCH WHITE SCOOLS CAN BE)ACADEMIC STANDARDS."

AND THEY WILL,AND THERE'S NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO ABOUT IT,AND THE DEVIL JEWS WILL HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT.THE TRULY SHIT-HEADED,CRYBABY,IMMATURE,SAVAGE GHETTO THUG FILTH WILL COME IN,AND HIGH GRADE,ACADEMIC ,CIVILIZED STANDARDS WILL GO DOWN THE TOILET!!!! JUST SO THEY CAN WIN A BUNCH OF GODDAMN FOOTBALL GAMES!!!!
 
Old December 3rd, 2004 #10
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listen to this pathetic whiner saying its racist:
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Willingham came to ND with a black mark on him
ND FIRES WILLINGHAM: COMMENTARIES

By MICHAEL WILBON
The Washington Post

The powers-that-be at Notre Dame, way too many of them anyway, never wanted Tyrone Willingham in the first place. The alums and the club boosters who donate tens of thousands of dollars and who influence opinion in South Bend never coveted Ty Willingham in the first place. They tolerated him. They made their peace with him being there. They hoped he would win. But they didn't want him. The whole three years Willingham was there, the power brokers stood with arms folded and feet tapping, staring at the clock trying to determine when his time would be up.

They hired George O'Leary, not knowing he had lied on his resume. They wanted Jon Gruden, but he wouldn't leave the NFL. They wanted Mike Shanahan, but he wouldn't leave pro football, either.

So when they had grown exhausted from chasing, but not catching their favorites, they turned desperately to Willingham and hoped he would deliver them not only from the O'Leary debacle but deliver magic. For the most part, they were never emotionally committed to him. They never loved him or treated him like "The Coach."

The thinking was that if he went 10-1 every year, he could stay, and at that point they might even grow to like him. A good many of them were betting against him when he arrived.

So Willingham was fired Tuesday three years into a five-year contract by a school that loves to claim the moral high ground. Notre Dame, the school that never before fired a coach before his initial contract expired, fired the first black head coach the school had ever hired in any sport. I'm sure everybody ever associated with Notre Dame will tell you color had nothing to do with letting Willingham go, that it's totally a coincidence, which is like spitting in somebody's face and telling him it's a rain drop.

This is a story about arrogance, about the Neanderthal nature of big-time college football, about a man who has more dignity than the bums who started calling for his head last season or those who plotted his firing for the last couple of weeks.

Not that Notre Dame is the only school operating a football program on complete arrogance, but it's the latest. Nebraska, Florida and Alabama are also among that small group of schools still believing it's their inalienable right to finish in the top 10 every season. They can't accept the fact that they don't own college football anymore, and that they'll never own it again. Not only do they have to share with the Southern Californias and Oklahomas, but with the Louisvilles and Marshalls and Utahs. In fact, the man Notre Dame is coveting right now, Urban Meyer, is the head coach of 11-0 Utah.

USC and Oklahoma are sitting pretty right now, but they'll cycle off just as they cycled on recently after down periods. Nebraska, only a year ago, fired a coach who went 8-3 because they felt he wasn't getting them close enough to a national title. So the good Cornhuskers people went out and hired a Super Bowl coach from the NFL, Bill Callahan, who just led them to 5-6.

The Notre Dames and Nebraskas can't stand the sight of upstarts such as Boise State taking a seat at the table they used to control. They want college football to look just like it did in the 1950s and '60s. They want it controlled by a handful of big-conference teams. They want to tie up all the good bowl games. And they certainly do not want anything as modern, as democratic and as merit-based as a playoff.

They want to live in Pleasantville as long as possible, and Pleasantville, in case you didn't notice, doesn't include black coaches telling white boys how to block or tackle, which is why there are only two black head coaches in Division I-A.

People at institutions such as Notre Dame don't sit around any more, even off the record, talking about getting rid of a person because he's a certain color. Such a conversation, if proven, would be illegal in this country, and most folks aren't that dumb. Intolerance has increasing subtlety. But the passionate distaste for Willingham in some quarters, including on campus after a loss, had an unmistakable stink to it.

Had Willingham been everything Notre Dame could have wanted? No, not yet. After going 10-3 his first year, he had a lousy second season. He was blown out by USC three times. But did he deserve to continue? Of course, he did. We're talking about a program that yielded one first-round draft pick in the past five years, meaning recruiting had fallen off long before Willingham arrived. They asked him to overhaul the offense, which takes more than a couple of seasons even at the professional level. They asked him to get rid of the knuckleheads who had embarrassed the school under the previous coach, and Willingham did that, too. Now, they say it came down to wins and losses.

When Willingham left Stanford, I winced. The people at Stanford loved Willingham; perhaps they still do. They wanted him there. They thought and demonstrated he was one of them, which did not happen in the main at Notre Dame. He knew he was taking a chance when he left Palo Alto, Calif., for South Bend. But he felt he owed it to himself to try to win on the biggest stage in college football.

I hope Stanford brings him back. I hope the recruits who grew close to Willingham follow him wherever he goes. It'll be interesting to see how black parents, high school coaches and recruits respond to how Willingham was treated. I received an e-mail last night from the father of a Big Ten lineman, a white player, who had been recruited by Willingham.

It reads in part, "Coach Willingham should not have been fired before his contract expired. Coach Willingham did a great job recruiting my son and really pushed the history of, and the opportunities available at, Notre Dame. In the end it was the lack of participation in a major conference and the off-campus activities available that made the difference. We wish him the best."

Maybe Meyer will come from Utah and, as they like to say in South Bend, wake up the echoes. But given the hype over this guy, he had better be the goods. Maybe they'll turn to Gruden, who'll come to campus flashing his Super Bowl ring and galvanize the program.

Either way, Willingham is better off coaching where he'll be appreciated to the level of his expertise and class. And Notre Dame will hire a coach with the promise of returning the Irish to a preeminent place in college football. That's a place Notre Dame hasn't been in quite a while, and it's a place, given the school's shortsightedness, it won't be seeing anytime soon.
 
Old December 4th, 2004 #11
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Wilbon's black. I don't think his analysis is that far off, except for the claim of racism, which is ridiculous. ND can't adjust mentally to not being #1, which it was once and isn't now because of changed conditions. Other than ND's being the #1 Catholic school, it's just another big school, no more attractive than a couple dozen others. Theoretically it ought to have a somewhat better draw among Catholics, which is 99% whites, but in practice even if that happens, it's not enough to keep it where it was. Then there's the reality of the way nigger players are actually treated at ND, which further makes the claims of racism ridiculous.

To me, the bottom line is Notre Dame thinks it's different from other places. I don't see a single piece of evidence that it is, except in the minds of certain Catholics. "Under the Tarnished Dome" has a lot of evidence that ND is just another big-time football program, with all the steroid and money problems of the rest of them.
 
Old December 5th, 2004 #12
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somebody suggested to me that the reason willingham got the boot after 3 years whereas faust got 5 years to fuck up, is that faust followed a winning coach (dan devine) but willingham followed bob davie a loser. so patience is short.

I dont think they're racists in the slightest. I have seen some college football programs up close and I think they dont give a fuck if somebody is from africa or mars or anything, winning is everything. they will allow footballers to cheat and take roids and get paid under the table and fuck white girls, and hell, rape white girls, get arrested time and again, and it all keeps rolling so long as the team wins.

under a tarnished dome-- Alex you are right that is a good book.

that isnt the half of it, anyways.

bottom line, is nigger got fired because he did not perform to standards expected of him. bunch of niggers running around now complaining like they usually do.
 
Old December 6th, 2004 #13
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I happen to be Irish,and I didn't see one god damn Irish thing there.
Your eyes don't decieve you:

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NOTRE DAME, Ind. -- Time magazine has hailed the Rev. Virgilio Elizondo as one of the leading spiritual innovators in the United States. Yet when the University of Notre Dame professor shares his beliefs about the connections between religion and people, everything begins with his memories of the grocery store his immigrant parents owned in San Antonio, Texas.

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He has spent most of his life trying to turn that belief into reality -- first in Texas and now also at Notre Dame, where he is a theology professor and associate director of the Institute for Latino Studies.
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Time magazine considered him a spiritual innovator for developing a theology that speaks to the faith of mestizos -- people who come from blended backgrounds, such as Mexican-Americans, and who often face rejection.

Elizondo believes that Jesus Christ came from a similar marginalized and blended background in Israel. He also believes that Jesus showed how hope could arise from rejection.

"Virgilio is the most well-known Hispanic theologian in the United States," says Alejandro Aguilera-Titus, associate director of the Secretariat for Hispanic Affairs of the U. S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, D.C. "He has been very involved in promoting a pastoral approach to ministry that is respectful of people's cultures."
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"He has a tremendous international reputation," says Gilberto Cardenas, director of Notre Dame's Institute for Latino Studies. "He inspires people when he talks about faith. He talks about blending the Latino people into the larger culture and creating better relations in the public world as well."
Much more:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.p...fighting+irish
 
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worth noting that ND is not part of the Catholic Church. it is an Indiana non profit corporation governed by a board of directors with only a minority of clerics on the board. formerly, it was a property of the CSC, the brothers of the Holy Cross, an order whose leadership answered to Rome. The current board, does not.

This secularization is a change that Heshburgh instituted, I think in the late seventies if memory serves, mostly to "grow" the university ie grab big bucks from the government and Ford Foundations and the like, that would not have been reachable if it remained directly under the control of Rome. This is an interesting story in itself.

Still they use the name "Catholic" but that is mostly to keep the donor money flowing.
 
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Monk Malloy "embarrassed" by ND for firing black dude

http://www.southbendtribune.com/stor...-A1-Malloy.sto

black aide to Monk Malloy shaves her head in protest (LOL) Ya gotta see this!

http://www.southbendtribune.com/stor...esponse_to.sto
 
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black aide to Monk Malloy shaves her head in protest (LOL) Ya gotta see this!

http://www.southbendtribune.com/stor...esponse_to.sto
Looks like Issac Hayes without the beard and sunglasses!


 
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Really, its more of a luxury to her. A nice excuse. No more having to put caustic lye every two weeks on her head to appear like she has human hair instead of afro wool.
 
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Looks like Issac Hayes without the beard and sunglasses!


With hair,without....niggorillas are UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
 
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rumour is shanahan of the broncos is being offered 3.45 million a year to coach ND.
 
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