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Old March 24th, 2019 #1
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Default The Irish Potato Famine

The rulers of Britain had always lusted for Ireland . .

. . everybody is familiar with the famous 'plantation' . .

From it today's conflict stems . .

. . when the Irish wouldn't let themselves be incorporated into the U.K. the English rulers got tricky . .

First they 'planted' the north with settlers from the U.K. . .

The north is all they ever conquered....

One of the worst things though ever done to them is when the rulers of the U.K. more or less 'artificially' caused the Irish Potato Famine . .

You see , despite , like the U.K. , being part of the British Isles and english-speaking , the Irish didn't want anything to do with 'Great Britain' . . . .

Two neighbouring isles . .

Somehow the rulers of England always sought to control Scotland and Wales as well ( their neighbouring countries ) which they tried with Ireland as well.

Ireland , like the rest of the British Isles , is a very Celtic influenced area ( the original inhabitants of the British Isles were Celts , the Anglos and the Saxons ( plus some other tribes ) brought a deal of Germanic blood there . .) . .

One of the effects also from the problems in Ireland was that the Irish in masses emigrated to America . . Even to the effect that the 'Irish English' ( i. e. the pronounciation of Ireland ) more or less became standard for North American English . .

The times of the 'American West' were very influenced by Irish customs ( drinking whiskey , dancing 'reel' , the banjo etc . .) . .

Today , second place after Germans , most Euro-Americans are of Irish heritage ( with names like 'Murphy' for example ) . .


The Irish began moving there in large masses from about 1800 on . .

Yet , concerning the Irish Potato Famine . . That was unjust by the lusty English rulers . . One could understand why they might have wanted united British Isles yet some of the things they did to the Irish went too far. .

This is not the way people of our race should deal with each other . .

. . denying them their sustain.

. . in this case potatos . . . . .



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Old March 24th, 2019 #2
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FYI, supposedly the 'bad' spuds that started the Irish famine came on a ship from the US ...Baltimore, in fact. The potato isnt indigenous to Europe or Asia (S America) and had to be imported from the new world to the old originally like tobacco.

Some people think the potato originated in Ireland LOL.
 
Old March 24th, 2019 #3
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@ T.G.

Yes , it should be public knowledge that the potato stems from South America , not European . .

Since it is widely acknowledged that the USA , probably from 1800 on , has had a strong Irish influence ( American English as it is spoken today , the American 'hillbilly'-cliche of the 1800s , lol , etc . .) it isn't surprising that the Irish were in favour of 'fruits from the New World' . . .

They were so used to it . .
 
Old March 24th, 2019 #4
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@ T.G.

Yes , it should be public knowledge that the potato stems from South America , not European . .

Since it is widely acknowledged that the USA , probably from 1800 on , has had a strong Irish influence ( American English as it is spoken today , the American 'hillbilly'-cliche of the 1800s , lol , etc . .) it isn't surprising that the Irish were in favour of 'fruits from the New World' . . .

They were so used to it . .
Some botanists are saying that the sweet potato might be from Asia, but who knows. The white potato that we are all familiar with is native to S America, and from the extreme south like Patagonia.

Potato is a huge cash crop in my area btw. Must be getting hungry, posted on the Aldi/Lidl thread too hahaha.

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Old March 24th, 2019 #5
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Some botanists are saying that the sweet potato might be from Asia, but who knows.
. . there is the theory around that the 'Injuns' came to the Americas from Asia , even though that theory is disputed . . North American tribes and South American Indios ( on a side note , we all know Columbus first had thought to have discovered India , so he called the people he met 'los Indios' , lol , that still lives on in Middle- / South-America ) . . Even though I do not take either of these groups ( North- , South-American ones ) for civilzed enough that they would take whole cultures of crops with them on their journey , lol . .

North American Injuns were more or less nomads "hunting that buffalo" , South American Indios were savages ( one shouldn't be blinded by the fact that their supposed 'pyramid-culture' is always so held up high , they were a wild bunch . .) . .

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The white potato that we are all familiar with is native to S America, and from the extreme south like Patagonia.

Potato is a huge cash crop in my area btw. Must be getting hungry, posted on the Aldi/Lidl thread too hahaha.

Cheers
Cheers . .

. . hmmmm . . don't know why yet every thread about Ireland here ( the last one I set up was the 'St. Patrick's Day'-thread ) makes me thirsty for whiskey , lol . .

Maybe time to just sit down , relax and get on my neverending-stockpile of good Irish Tullamore Dew I still hold in the 'party-room' . . .

lol . . taking it easy though , gotta get up early tomorrow morning . . ( it's about 6 PM where I live )
 
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. . hmmmm . . don't know why yet every thread about Ireland here ( the last one I set up was the 'St. Patrick's Day'-thread ) makes me thirsty for whiskey , lol . .

Maybe time to just sit down , relax and get on my neverending-stockpile of good Irish Tullamore Dew I still hold in the 'party-room' . . .
Perhaps tomorrow I will have some Jameson's and watch Becky Lynch on WWE Smackdown Live.
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Perhaps tomorrow I will have some Jameson's . .
. .heehee . . that's one of my favorites too . .


. . good stuff . .

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. . and watch Becky Lynch on WWE Smackdown Live.
Oh . . I happen to know that you live in Nevada . . WWE-events around there ? . .


Anyway , enjoy friend ! !
 
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Oh . . I happen to know that you live in Nevada . . WWE-events around there? . .
None that I'm aware of. Ring of Honor and Impact Wrestling have come to Vegas many times. I watch them on TV more than WWE.
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Don't be so fucking stupid

 
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There also once was a problem with a potato-beetle plague in the former "German Democratic Republic" ( = neighbour of West Germany)

The German Democratic Republic had to suffer severely under that potato-beetle plague . .


Of course , its leadership immediately went as far as to blame "the imperialist West" for alledgedly "artificially installing that potato-beetle to destroy the GDR from within".

You know . . . alledgedly 'the potato-beetle had been bred in CIA-labs, installed in the GDR to 'destroy socialism'' . .

You know , if there was one thing the Communists truly were good at , it was lying.




That already started with the name 'German Democratic Republic' . . Neither German nor democratic nor republic . . . It was the Bolshevik-occupied one-party-dictatorship on German ground . . .

And after all . . the so called Cold War was nothing but a game . .


 
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^ ^ . . so, you see . Potatoes, since today being one of the basics of man , are often a way to destabilise nations.

 
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I've always wondered why the Irish starved for lack of potatoes when all they had to do was go down to the corner and pick up some of these...

 
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I've always wondered why the Irish starved for lack of potatoes when all they had to do was go down to the corner and pick up some of these...


. . on a side note. souldn't 'Ronald McDonald' be scottish-stemming in this context . . ?

Last names with 'Mac' are mostly associated with Scotland . .


. . while last names with 'O'' are mostly associated with Ireland . . like 'O' Neil' . .

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Old January 14th, 2020 #14
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'Mac' is Scottish, but 'Mc' is usually associated with the Irish. Both stemming from Gaelic, meaning 'son of'. It's where 'Mick', a derogatory term for an Irish person, came from.
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