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The Wild West
Many people have a fascination for the 'Wild West' or American West as it's also called of the 19th century. . I can understand that. . It was a point in Caucasian history where people were 'free to make their fortune' , had 'adventure' and so on . . Apart from that it was a time of lawlessness in the sense that people could be autonomous ( I admit , to the point of dueling each other ) . . The state wasn't so strict back then . . The fascination for the American West is present everywhere . . Well , not all details may be correct , in retrospect ,as it is often painted today . . For example , cowboys , in the word's truest meaning , weren't the "heroes" they are portrayed as ( cowboy was a profession of people having to look after the cattle ) . . The fact that "cowboys" per se are associated with the American West is because they were the "truest" "Wild Westerners" . . And it is a hardly known fact that the cowboy in the American West was often even black or Mexican . . ( that profession brought it with itself . .) . . Anyway . . I hear some towns / villages in the U.S. still hold up an "American West"-mentality . . Also , concerning race , it was quite a "racist" time against non-Europeans . . . It was also a change in culture in the U.S. . . while in the beginning ( the time of the Founding Fathers ) the language of the U.S.A. must still have been a British English , from 1800 on , due to many Irish settling there the language pronouncuation must have changed from a 'British English' to pronounciation similar as in Ireland . . Example of British english . . . . example of Irish pronounciation . . . . . The American Western culture drew hard on Irish customs . . 'Hillbillies' , drinking Whiskey , dancing reel for example . . Well . . times changed . . . . today the American West is history . . But it shall forever stand as a fascinating epoch of Caucasian history . . From the life-circumstances it may have been pretty 'back to basics' but it sure was a great epoch . . Today it is viewed with fascination everywhere . . . The 'pushing westward of the frontier' was ended in about 1900 . . 'Urbanization' began . . But the spirit of the American West still lives on . . Yee-hawww . .! ! from Germany |
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Even Hitler had a fascination for the Wild West as shown by his liking of Karl May's novels.
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Had to include this.
Of course, The Wild, Wild West was more fantasy than anything historically accurate. But I still thought it was a fun show, Jim West was sort of like James Bond in the 19th century.
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Sugarcoating at its finest. So you ignore the whorehouses, gangs, theft, rapes, murder, starvation, rampant drug use, and further destruction of Native American peoples. |
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. . projecting at its finest Sartt . . you truly are one . For those who don't know , Sartt is a blackie . . Oh , and don't accuse me of 'sugarcoating' : |
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Oh trust me, i know a great deal about the " wild west " You know Cocaine was in just about everything, right Meth, Cocaine, Heroin, i mean it was in in Coca Cola. I have some of this stuff in a back yard in another state with the ingredients. Of course the stuff is in glass jars i will never touch let alone open.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-todays-i...ines-510258499 Oh and look at the skin color of the wild wests outlaws. White. |
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I have never been a fan of "westerns" movies, except the movie they called the anti-western. Redford was cute. There you have it.
As for rawhide.
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The number one liquor-beverage in old England was Gin , not whiskey . . https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=551528 . . oh , and one thing I forgot in my listing above . . Playing banjo |
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Have to admit, that Irish Folk track you gave sounds pretty similar to Country & Western |
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One question though...
You say the Irish had one of the biggest influences on the USA. Why is it then that Potestantism is/was the major religion among Americans? The Irish are arch-catholic |
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First of all , there might have been Protestants in Ireland who sought to leave. Second ,already the largely British ( in this case I make a distinction between British and Irish ) settlers imported a form of Protestantism . . Third , THE largest group of Euro-settlers into USA though were Germans . . probably also largely Protestant.. Of course ,the Irish are arch catholic but in this case the original idea behind the USA I suppose still had a bearing. The U.S.-settlers wanted to break away from 'the old Europe' and of course that also included holding allegiance to the Pope in Rome ( i. e. the 'forces of the old Europe') . . Ireland , gotta say , at that time was one of the poorest states in Europe . . Of course they sought to seek their fortune in 'the new world' . . . Apart from that they were often 'bullied' , in a way , by their neighbour Great Britain. Like I said , American English today is based on Irish pronounciation. And the whole American Western style 'drinking whiskey , playing banjo etc' was based on Irish customs . . . The original settlers to the U.S.A. in the beginning might have been British in contrast to Irish ,later the Irish had their influence . . But like I said , today , over the course of time , most Euro-Americans are of German heritage. - - - - . . what today remains of Euro-heritage in the multicultural USA though , that is . . |
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whiskey and banjos?
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It depends on who's doing the spelling, as this excerpt explains:
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Even if most of it is fictional hyperbole (as portrayed in TV and movie Westerns) the true "hero" of the American West that's embedded in the American psyche isn't the "cowboy" per se, but the gunfighter. And of that category, there is the "bad gunfighter" and the "good gunfighter". They were the true Kings of the West, the "knight errant" who roamed the hinterland seeking his fortune.
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