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I agree, Abzurg....The guy is nutty.... |
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”Apart from reading your distorted translations of the scriptures try reading a few books.You could start by studying the words of Der Fuehrer who said:
”The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity‘s illegitimate child.Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.” [Table Talk 11-12/7/41]” .....If “Der Fuehrer” claimed Christianity is a “jewish” invention, then he was simply wrong, just the same as you believing Our Christ a “jew”; it is not Christianity that has destroyed our race, but “judeo”-Christianity, which is what the Scriptures have even warned against, (“jewish” fables)... |
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Let`s be clear about where you stand Patrick! You claim that we are all `Isaelites` which I think most people would not thank you for but would probably deck you if you said it to their face. But you now also claim that Adolf Hitler,the greatest Aryan to have ever lived is "simply wrong"! Fuck off Patrick, this forum is not for you! Try Barmitzvas R Us! |
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Sorry, Bozo...
.....If Hitler held that Christianity had "jewish" roots, he was as wrong as you are; further, he had a "jewish" grandmother, and I've never been a member of the Hitler cult... .....And who the hell are you to say who a forum is for and who it isn't? Arrogant little $hit, aren't you? |
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aramaic=semitic=jewish. perhaps you see them in those days as having followed 'the covenant' or not working in the agitation mode. egyptians which certainly in those days were somewhat more 'euro' than today, similarly, were a branch of the semitic peoples. all archaelogical, linguistic, and other evidence points to it.
now, there are other angles here; such as an ideological split, or a caste {class} in which some genetic or other traits might have become more concentrated. |
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Patrick you are a self-confessed Jew by your own words,a hater of the Aryan race[as you deny our identity as Aryans] and a hater of the greatest Aryan that has ever lived,ie Adolf Hitler. You belong in Opposing Views Patrick along will all our other racial enemies. Let`s see what the good folk of VNN think and take it to the polls! |
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http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm http://www.studytoanswer.net/islam/hitlerislam.html http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler I can't believe you'd disrespect the “Der Fuehrer” and his chosen Christian religion like that. The jews have pushed the same lie for over fifty years: Hitler: "It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our Volk and state, under its firm protection....May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our Volk." Read many more quotes about Hitler's love of Christ in his own words @ http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm Beware of several jews on VN who like to twist history! False prophets look like us. Under the perfect Blood of Christ, |
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to Pastor Visser, et al. Question?
i have orthodox catholic roots and yet i have trouble believing that the populations in the mid-east were non-semitic in those days. there is a lot of evidence that the egyptians were a different and non-arab race (tut's mask looks fairly western), and that the people around palestine were not 'palestinians'.
someone i met came up with this theory that while the early populations in the region were semitic in the sense that they had some phoenician-syrian-aramaic 'desert features' that their skin was white. he stated that inbreeding, and 'a breaking of the covenant' were the reason that the formerly adamic jews are now positioned against the west. is this a logical synthesis? |
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http://www.666blacksun.com/Jewish%5FNazarene.html
Jesus: The Jewish Archetype There are a small number of deluded Gentile fools who try to claim the Nazarene was a Gentile. The following biblical scriptures prove beyond any doubt the Jewishness of the Nazarene, and his relation to the Gentiles. As for the Jewishness of his teachings, see "Christianity and Communism: Jewish Twins." * Matthew 1: 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Who was Abraham? * Genesis 14:13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram. * Genesis 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. Circumcision was not a popular practice among the Gentiles: Male Circumcision in the Renaissance: Europeans, with the exception of the Jews, did not practice male circumcision.¹ In 1753 in London, there was a proposal for Jewish emancipation. It was furiously opposed by the pamphleteers of the time, who spread the fear that Jewish emancipation meant universal circumcision. Men were urged to protect: "The best of your property" and guard their threatened foreskins. ...a striking indication of how central to their sexual identity men considered their foreskins at that time. ²J Until well into the Nineteenth Century, the same sentiments prevailed. Richard Burton observed that "Christendom practically holds circumcision in horror". This attitude is reflected in the ninth edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (1876) which discusses the practice as a religious rite among Jews, Moslems, the ancient Egyptians and tribal peoples in various parts of the world. The author of the entry rejected sanitary explanations of the procedure in favour of a religious one: "like other body mutilations ... [it is] of the nature of a representative sacrifice". ³ * Matthew 1: 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; * Hebrews 7: 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. * Matthew 2: 1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, * 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. According to rabbinical law and in the tradition of male Jews, the Nazarene was circumcised and named on the eighth day in the temple (Jewish term for synagogue) by a rabbi: * Luke 2: 21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. Jesus' mother Mary was also very observant of orthodox Jewish law where a woman is unclean following her menstrual period, or childbirth: * Leviticus 12: 1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, * 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. * 3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. * 4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. Modern orthodox Jews still follow these laws. The following scriptures are rather blatant regarding the Jewish identity of the Nazarene and his relation to non-Jews (Gentiles): * Luke 2: 25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. * 26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. * 27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, * 28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, * 29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: * 30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, * 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; * 32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. Note in the above verse 32, the distinction between Gentiles and "Israel." * Luke 2:39 And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth. Both of these towns were populated by mostly Jews at that time. Four of the tombs were sealed with rolling stones, a type of closure typical of the late Jewish period up to A.D. 70. From the tombs, therefore, it can be concluded that Nazareth was a strongly Jewish settlement in the Roman period. (The Archaeology of the New Testament, Princeton University Press: Princeton, 1992: pages 44-46)4 Both of the Nazarene's parents were observant Jews who made the yearly pilgrimage for the Feast of the Passover: * Luke 2: 41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. The Nazarene was very clear in his attitudes towards the Gentiles and the distinction between Jew and Gentile: * Matthew 20: 25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. * But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; He was called "Rabbi" and by his own people (Jews): * John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. * John 3: 1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: * 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. * John 6: 24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus. * 25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither? * John 1: 37 And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus. * 38 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou? And a "Jew" by the Gentiles: * John 4: 9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans. He upheld Jewish Law: * Matthew 5: 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. * 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. He regularly attended and taught in the Jewish synagogue and observed the Jewish Sabbath. The Jews loved and glorified him: * Luke 4: 14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. * 15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. * 16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. * Luke 21: 37 And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives. * 38 And all the people came early in the morning to him in the temple, for to hear him. Only Jews were allowed in the temple. Gentiles were and are to this day considered "unclean" by both conservative and orthodox Jews: * Acts 21: 25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. * 26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them. * 27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, * 28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place Note the above scriptures do not pertain to the Nazarene, but to “Paul.” The Nazarene was long gone at this time according to scripture. Though Paul was a Jew, his mission was to the Gentiles. Like his parents, he observed the Passover: * John 2: 13 And the Jews’ passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. * John 7: 2 Now the Jew’s feast of tabernacles was at hand. * 10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret. * 11 Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he? * John 7: 14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. * Luke 22: 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. * 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: He also observed Hanukkah: * John 10: 22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. * 23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon’s porch. He quoted the Hebrew scriptures: * Matthew 4: 1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. * 2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. * 3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. * 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. * 5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, * 6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. * 7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. * 8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; * 9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. * 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. * 11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him. * Deuteronomy 8: 3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. * Deuteronomy 6: 16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah. * Deuteronomy 6: 13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name. Note in the above scenario, though fictitious, Satan approached the Nazarene not as an equal, but as superior. An equal does not worship an equal. He readily admitted to his Jewish identity: * Mark 15: 2 And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it. Many deluded Gentiles claim the Nazarene was murdered by the Jews, thus he must be a Gentile. This is utter nonsense as the scriptures prove otherwise. The Jews only punish their own for breaking Jewish law, as only one born of a Jewish mother can be a Jew and held accountable to Jewish law: * Matthew 26: 64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. * 65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. * 66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death. * John 19: 7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. * John 18: 31 Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death: * John 18: 35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done? He was buried as a Jew: * John 19: 40 Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. References: ¹ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: article on the "History of male circumcision" ²Ibid ³Ibid 4Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: article on Nazareth Jesus is a Jew The Bible; King James Version. |
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"There are a small number of deluded Gentile fools who try to claim the Nazarene was a Gentile."
.....And you're probably stupid enough to believe "gentile" means "non-jew"; I'm no longer wasting time on morons of your non-caliber... |
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.....Mr. Crypto; you are less than pathetic...
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"Oh? Here I thought it was in the jew bible all these many centuries."
.....It was not in the original KJV, A.V. of 1611, nor the Geneva Bible; Neither is Our Christ "jewish", nor is there a single "jewish" root to Christianity... those that contend otherwise are either profoundly ignorant, or lying... |
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EDIT: I think I found the CI answer in an earlier post of yours: http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=366868&postcount=40 Quote:
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How old are you, Patrick? I wonder if you might be young enough to recover or if it's all she wrote curtains. Quote:
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"How old are you, Patrick? I wonder if you might be young enough to recover or if it's all she wrote curtains."
.....An half a century; you? |
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