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Old December 18th, 2003 #1
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Nature Science Update

Oldest sculptures unearthed
Carvings show early Europeans' prodigious skill.
18 December 2003
MICHAEL HOPKIN

A set of ivory figurines found in southwestern Germany add to a growing
cache
of the oldest art known.

The 30,000-year-old carvings underline the remarkable creativity of our
earliest European ancestors. Nicholas Conard of the University of Tübingen,
Germany, discovered the 2-centimetre-high figures in the Hohle Fels Cave in
the
country's Swabia region1.

The figurines, and similar relics previously unearthed in Swabia, are the
earliest known representations of living forms. "Without question, they are
the
oldest corpus of figurative art in the world," says archaeologist Anthony
Sinclair of the University of Liverpool, UK.

The carvings were almost certainly made by Europe's earliest modern
settlers.
Their location supports the idea that modern humans migrated into Europe
along
the River Danube more than 30,000 years ago.

But the complexity of the findings undermines the traditional view that art
began crudely and gradually acquired sophistication. "The new evidence
refuses
to fit," says Sinclair. "It seems that the first modern humans in Europe
were
astonishingly precocious in their skills."

We may need to abandon simple ideas about where and when cultural modernity
arose, says Conard. Different populations in Europe and elsewhere may have
developed their styles independently.

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RAF
 
Old December 18th, 2003 #2
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Welcome, RA Fonda, to the VNN Forums! Your essays and articles have preceded you here, in the "White Origins" section, but we are glad to have you here in person. Thank you for contributing this article.

"Without question, they are the oldest corpus of figurative art in the world," ...

Indeed!

-Billy

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Nature Science Update

Oldest sculptures unearthed
Carvings show early Europeans' prodigious skill.
18 December 2003
MICHAEL HOPKIN

A set of ivory figurines found in southwestern Germany add to a growing
cache
of the oldest art known.

The 30,000-year-old carvings underline the remarkable creativity of our
earliest European ancestors. Nicholas Conard of the University of Tübingen,
Germany, discovered the 2-centimetre-high figures in the Hohle Fels Cave in
the
country's Swabia region1.

The figurines, and similar relics previously unearthed in Swabia, are the
earliest known representations of living forms. "Without question, they are
the
oldest corpus of figurative art in the world," says archaeologist Anthony
Sinclair of the University of Liverpool, UK.

The carvings were almost certainly made by Europe's earliest modern
settlers.
Their location supports the idea that modern humans migrated into Europe
along
the River Danube more than 30,000 years ago.

But the complexity of the findings undermines the traditional view that art
began crudely and gradually acquired sophistication. "The new evidence
refuses
to fit," says Sinclair. "It seems that the first modern humans in Europe
were
astonishingly precocious in their skills."

We may need to abandon simple ideas about where and when cultural modernity
arose, says Conard. Different populations in Europe and elsewhere may have
developed their styles independently.

Full text
http://www.nature.com/nsu/031215/031215-8.html

RAF
 
Old December 19th, 2003 #3
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Two of the three artifacts are shown. The one not shown matches one found nearby. They both depict a lion-headed human figure. I would like to see those.
 
Old December 20th, 2003 #4
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Welcome, RA Fonda, to the VNN Forums! Your essays and articles have preceded you here, in the "White Origins" section, but we are glad to have you here in person. Thank you for contributing this article.

"Without question, they are the oldest corpus of figurative art in the world," ...

Indeed!

-Billy

www.whiterevolution.com

Thank you for the kind words and warm welcome, Kinsman.

I tried to post a bare-bones version of my critique of Feldman's PC propaganda in the January Discovery on a science list. The zog suck-up who monitors it wouldn't let it post. You know that an expose of a major researcher's misrepresentation of data would be front-page, major-media news, let alone hot stuff on an academic list. I also turned it in to Altermedia, but they haven't replied. This just shows you how tight and comprehensive the censorship is on the subject of fundamental genetic differences between Eurasians and africans. This just shows how afraid they are. They know that if the common person ever understands that africans and other tropical people are descended from Homo erectus hybrids -- that they are not even the same SPECIES as Eurasians -- that our Kindred would reject zogs genocide-by-miscegnation.

I say that if it is so "dangerous" (their own characterization) then we ought to be telling everyone about it. You don't have to make (or even understand) the scientific argument, as it is all posted for your reference at rafonda.com On the other hand, any of you CAN easily understand it; the AllFather gave our Kindred 3-digit IQs, so don't scorn their vast potential as general purpose weapons!
The concept is simple:
The archaic sapiens (Homo-single-sapiens) who lived in eurasia were highly advanced because of the severe selection of living at a pre-human culture level in that climate.
72 thousand years ago Mt Toba erupted and caused a nuclear winter over eurasia.
A few highly selected survivors were forced to enhance their culture to survive.
Leaving out some details (which are provided on site) this resulted in selection for Homo sapiens sapiens.
Two women who lived about that time are ALL eurasians' last COMMON maternal ancestor: the Eurasian Eves; their mtDNA lineages are named M and N. There WAS also a last maternal ancestor (Eve) for africans too, BUT she was NOT the ancestor of eurasians ... M and N are their Eves.
The afrocentrist researchers lie about the implication of the data, but it is published, and you can see for yourself what it is and means. They know they are misrepresenting the data, and that is why they call it "dangerous" ... for us to learn!
Do you remember the "Dr." who stood up in front of TV cameras, along with Hillary, and said that the human genome project had proved that "we are all the same". They know they are lying, because the truth is too awful for them to dare to admit ... africans are not just another 'race' or 'type', they aren't even human! The word hu-man means 'good' or 'true' man in proto-Indo-European; our ancestors KNEW the tropical people (who are hybrids between Homo sapiens/sapiens and Homo erectus) were not 'the same as' their true-human type. Once people today need to re-learn that as authentic, scientific truth then we can expect some significant percentage of (the best of) them to become Folk-loyal.

That would, indeed, be 'dangerous' for those who attempt our genocide.

Best wishes at Yule!
RAF
 
Old December 21st, 2003 #5
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...Do you remember the "Dr." who stood up in front of TV cameras, along with Hillary, and said that the human genome project had proved that "we are all the same". They know they are lying, because the truth is too awful for them to dare to admit ...
If only there was just one of them lyin' "Dr.'s"!!! On TV, we will never see any other kind, alas.

And my thanks to you for a fine post on this fascinating subject, rafonda. May real history someday drive out the lies.
 
Old December 22nd, 2003 #6
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This thread is proof that a forum doesn't have to be a sandbox for mud-slinging, flame-wars, or innuendo and insult. If you have comrades who are interested in not only shoring up their own belief systems and their ability to debate and win arguments, but to actually LEARN something, invite them here, and to visit rafonda.com.

I hope that the author will write another article and e-mail it to me for inclusion in the December White Revolution newsletter!

-Billy Roper
Chairman, White Revolution



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If only there was just one of them lyin' "Dr.'s"!!! On TV, we will never see any other kind, alas.

And my thanks to you for a fine post on this fascinating subject, rafonda. May real history someday drive out the lies.
 
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