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#1 Infighting (sic - fighting) Thread
[probably will make this a new forum, and pull some good threads in. infighting, conducted correctly (within limits i describe in my essay posted in various sticky threads) is useful, is good, is necessary. here i respond to something brad griffin said]
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Our enemy is the international jew and, to use modern parlance, international jew is international. For instance, the ADL whistles, and Greek minister Samaras comes running to a dinner in NYC, where he reassures Big Kike he's doing all he can to jail and suppress Golden Dawn. "Yessuh, Mr. Jew Boss man, I will indeed turn Greece into Pakistan per your noble jewly orders, jes' takes a little more time, suh." In Greece. Thousands of miles away. A small Mediterranean nation with some beaches and maybe 5,000 jews. Over the next year, Golden Dawn's 18 MPs are jailed, most of them. A new anti-free speech bill is passed. It is announced that ADL will be formally brainwashing cops and supplying 'educational' propaganda materials for Greek schools. Now you want to tell me you can just ignore all this and focus on your country? No. It doesn't work like that. The battle is global. Regardless of what you like or prefer. Whites simply must network with racially aware whites wherever they find them, and all over the globe. That's the only approach that makes sense. Whites, for instance, can use this forum to speak freely about what's going on in the 90% of the white world in which free speech is literally illegal. That's just one way whites can and must help brother whites around the globe. Circumstances change. It is not 1940, it is 2014. Some things are the same, that is true, but some things have changed. The height of white sanity is turning the new technologies and social media to white advantage, and this a global thing. Last edited by Alex Linder; October 11th, 2014 at 09:23 AM. |
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Beefs: This Is The WN Movement
Posted on October 9, 2014 by Hunter Wallace Get your popcorn. Check out this partial list of ongoing current beefs: Greg Johnson vs. Daily Stormer Greg Johnson vs. Richard Spencer Alternative Right vs. Daily Stormer Alex Linder vs. Jared Taylor Alex Linder vs. Greg Johnson Ramzpaul vs. Robert Ransdell Daily Stormer vs. Ramzpaul Greg Johnson vs. Matt Parrott Bob Whitaker vs. Stormfront Alex Linder vs. Bob Whitaker Sebastian Ronin vs. Countless People (who the fuck is Ronin?) My Picks For Most Intense Beef Hadding vs. Harold Covington Will Williams vs. Harold Covington Axis Sally vs. Harold Covington http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...e-wn-movement/ |
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Greg Johnson critiquing Anglin and Daily Stormer, response from Mr. Anglin also included:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=212629 Greg Johnson, short comment on Anglin's article: Quote:
No, you didn't. You got gangbanged (sweet dreams eh...) in this thread on that particular subject: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=144074 Last edited by Robbie Key; October 11th, 2014 at 10:20 AM. |
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http://www.dailystormer.com/prothink...hite-movement/ Really shitty move from Ramzpaul, whom, instead of taking contact and asking Delaney to take down the video, decided to immediately file a lawsuit. Quote:
http://www.totalfascism.com/final-sc...erts-response/ I believe it had something to do with people like John Friend and some others, who engages in theories like that 911 was a hologram and shit. Can't remember the details. Last edited by Robbie Key; October 11th, 2014 at 11:09 AM. |
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There's no fidelity - to people or to principles. "Lew" got it right - once again, the solid VNN principle of rejecting those who exculpate jews proves its validity as a white-protecting principle Either you're openly pro-white and anti-jew, or you're not one of us. Last edited by Alex Linder; October 11th, 2014 at 02:26 PM. |
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Spencer is simply a nebbish. I think of him as a Strom lite. Less brains, less character, even. Again I ask, please ignore the man saying this and consider the point: where has mixing with conservatism gotten white nationalism? Why not attack it as another enemy, and thereby create something original and unique in American politics? Something brave that average Americans can get behind? |
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Pathetic. Same thing happened in Sweden btw. I am very skeptical of these people. |
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He comments on the Budapest-debacle: Seems eccentric. |
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October 11th, 2014 | #12 |
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one one side of this political grand canyon there's racialism. on the other side conservatism. in the middle is alt-right.
cleverness aint clever, boys. but ever and anon they'll think it is. to switch metaphors, dont try to 3/4 the north wind, it'll only blow you over. face it directly, march straight thru it, with all the difficulty and pain that entails. the way that seems the hardest is actually the easiest. is actually the only way that works. |
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we have two schools of thought. the clever johnsons and whitakers and even macdonald say don't bother attacking the enemy's strong point - the 'holocaust' whether its real or not.
the other side, VNN's (and Anglin's too), says yes, we have all the evidence we need to go right after it: but even if we didn't, out of loyalty we cant turn our back on the original NS nor the researchers who confirmed that jews have been lying about 6m and gas chambers. I still have yet to see anyone of johnson's "throw the Nazis under the jewish bus" school explain how Golden Dawn succeeded so well the System was forced to jail all its leaders when GD has been the most overtly NS-emulative of any party seen in decades. By everything men like johnson claim, Golden Dawn should have been an abject failure. There's a reason the fakes, the WINOs, like Jared Taylor don't like to talk about Golden Dawn, and that's that it shows up who and what they actually are - pseuds and weaklings, along with professional subverters. Our movement to succeed must be fearless, and laughter conveys fearlessness more than pretty much any other quality or disposition. Anglin understands this, if the others do not. Whites need leadership. That means willingness to fight. Verbally, from the leaders. And physically, from the leaders and followers. PhDs who throw in the towel on the most signficant intellectual battles of our day -- when the evidence is on our side -- won't ever lead anything except another boring, expensive conference-vacation. How many the fuck of you have the money to drop a few K to fly off to Hungary and hear the same old shit you've already heard 100x and can find on video anyway? This is just empty conservatism masquerading as something more. There's no point to have a conference, the point would be to have, as someone said, a White council - to issue a white symbol (as in guarnteed white goods/media) or to settle on a word for the hatred I've termed loxism, if a different term is desired. Whites are waiting for someone to lead, and that someone won't be anything from Vdare/AmRen or any of their suckers-up like the queer johnson. |
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griffin again:
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There's no reason in the world not to help our fellow whites anywhere in the world if it's in our power to do so. That's how jews operate, and they are 'winning' ie running things. Take your tip from winners, not losers. Jews don't say, it's up to jews in Greece to save themselves. They say, we will use our money and political power to force what's good for the tiny jew minority on the 99% Greek white majority. Last edited by Alex Linder; October 11th, 2014 at 03:06 PM. |
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cost of flying to hungary and back to hear what's already been said 100x and put online in all forms: $2k
cost of every pro-white using the same rhetorical terms - $0 ... i cant even sell people on the importance of getting on the same page verbally. we have a free press, supposedly. but our WN position is uniformly described as 'hate' in the controlled media. do you notice how effective that is? we need a counter-term for every jewish agitprop term. i regard that as self-evident. no one else seems to see the need. they're perfectly happy - including johnson and KM - to use the terms devised by our enemy, as though they're perfectly neutral. this has the effect of ratifying them, of making their anti-white agitprop legitimate. i dont expect formal academics instinctively to know what i'm talking about, but they are smart enough they ought to be able to use their IQ and learning to overcome their vibe-deafness. you simply can't use opponents prejudicial terms and win. you have to use your own, and force them thru the crust. make them underground-sexy-cool-popular. this is how we create Our Thing as distinct from Their Anti-White Thing. this is 101 to me, but i can't seem to get anyone else to see it. i mean, it doesnt cost ANY money to use designer terms like hush crimes or loxism, terms which are potentially functional equivalents of racism adn hate crimes - except they support our side and contain our positions in short, how can win the physical war when we cant even seem to perceive the verbal war? why must we always be conventional-defensive (conservative) rather than aggressive? |
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In a sense, the Jewish synagogue culture of eternal and useless debate has supplanted the Aryan man of action. Trustafarians like Johnson and Spencer have trouble relating to the underdog story of Hitler, a man who did instead of debate, because they've never known struggle. Incessant yapping is a privilege reserved for the very few. They see more of themselves in the Junger-style Conservatives who plotted to assassinate Hitler because he threatened their decadent order, than they do in the popular social revolution Hitler led globally. The New Right is very concerned with how they look, because they don't want to be bigoted rednecks. Fine. Hitler's forces not only united the entire white world (except the parts that speak English), but even had pretty much all the non-white races eager to help establish the Nationalsocialist order, which was the simple universal nationalism vs selective globalization by Jews. Absolutely refusing to acknowledge any of the kind of earth shaking achievements the Germans made in the racial struggle is a pitfall that leads right into Jewish hands. Joseph Goebbels' writings from the 30's and 40's have far more wisdom and useful information for activists today than any of Richard Spencer's zombie movie youtube reviews. Isn't that sad, that no ideological advances in the racial cause have been made in 70 years? If anything, regression is a better word for this time period. And why is that? It's because people like Taylor and Spencer refuse to even LOOK at what the Germans had to say, while the poof Johnson knows what they had to say (and knows they were right) but as a queer with no character, doesn't like rustling any feathers.
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colin liddell
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why did they throw golden dawn in jail when it obtained 7% (seven fucking percent!) of the vote? perhaps they know something you don't, liddell. or perhaps your paycheck fears trump your capacity for analysis. why isn't marine le pen in jail? because her party rejects race and embraces jews. you count this as a win. why isn't the adl viciously denouncing le pen and demanding the party be criminalized? liddell doesn't even address these because he cant answer them. he's just another conservative, pretending there's no elephant with a yarmulke in the democratic living room. |
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