An easy solution for the financial crisis

[Curious]

Lower taxes. Lower taxes means more economic growth. More economic growth means more tax revenue, so there is money to fill the gap. This is called Laffer curve. The reason why the deficit rose the last years, is because spending rose even more quickly.

[ben shockley]

Originally Posted by Curious

Lower taxes. Lower taxes means more economic growth. More economic growth means more tax revenue, so there is money to fill the gap. This is called Laffer curve. The reason why the deficit rose the last years, is because spending rose even more quickly.

Without government cuts, that will only increase the defecit. What we need is an across the board, immediate, 30% cut (firing) in all government workers, and a 40% cut in spending.

[Jett Rink]

It's hard to buy things when you are tapped out on credit.

The consumer sheep cant go on forever spending 110% of their income.

Lower taxes? Bullshit.

If they can find a way to raise everyone's home values forever they can secure that free easy credit to keep buying things.

[Curious]

Originally Posted by ben shockley

Without government cuts, that will only increase the defecit.

No, no the trick behind Laffer Curve, is that a lower tax percentage means more tax revenue, due to growing economy.

Originally Posted by ben shockley

What we need is an across the board, immediate, 30% cut (firing) in all government workers, and a 40% cut in spending.

That would be good for freedom, but it is not economically necessary.

[Jett Rink]

Originally Posted by ben shockley

Without government cuts, that will only increase the defecit. What we need is an across the board, immediate, 30% cut (firing) in all government workers, and a 40% cut in spending.

Firing government workers just lowers the pool of consumers.

Cutting government spending just puts those people/businesses who get those government spending dollars out of a job as well.

The problem is rich people hoarding all the cash for themselves and letting the proles live off credit.

[Fred]

The Laffer curve is indeed what supply side economics is based on.

Other than the obvious solutions to our mess...
Kick out the Jews
Make America an All White nation


I believe that lowering tax rates for everyone is a great idea. I would also get rid of cooperate taxes and capital gains. Simplify the tax code to the point of a flat tax. Reduce Government spending and entitlements. Bring our troops home from foreign lands. Most of that Ron Paul Stuff.

The reality is that it won't happen. We have Jews. With Jews You Lose.

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

The problem is rich people hoarding all the cash for themselves and letting the proles live off credit.

Which is why workers must organize and effectively demand better working wages and more Union jobs.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...ction_unr.html

[Oy Ze Hate]

Forgive all Federal Reserve debt. Or erase it. Tell the Jewish banking clans behind the Federal Reserve and other central banks to stuff it. Do the same with all the central banking organizations; the IMF, The World Bank, etc.

The whole scheme of our financial enslavement is based on debt. Money doesn't need to be debt.

Erase the debt. Create a national bank or people's bank which creates money based on the real wealth of the nation: its various commodities, worker hours, natural wealth, public land, real estate, etc. And create the money out of thin air just as is done now, but without a debt. In other words, the created money isn't owed back to the bankers who simply created it out of thin air to begin with. By doing so, the bankers become simply business men, rather than greedy slave drivers.

Then...get out of Iraq, seal the border, and deport the Jews.

That will cure what ails the Kwa.

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Oy Ze Hate

The whole scheme of our financial enslavement is based on debt. Money doesn't need to be debt.

Legalizing competing currencies is key to economic freedom.

Originally Posted by Oy Ze Hate

By doing so, the bankers become simply business men, rather than greedy slave drivers.

While we're still under the yoke of the bankers, we must continue to organize to hold them accountable for their actions.

Originally Posted by Oy Ze Hate

Then...get out of Iraq, seal the border, and deport the Jews.

That will cure what ails the Kwa.

White Racial Loyalty must spread globally. Nationalism is anachronistic. Globalism is the future.

[Mack Bartlow]

Cut all "bailout" monies to corporations, welfare to illegal aliens and foreign nations. Full tax liability to any company that outsources.

Then close the border, deport the illegals and other so-called immigrants.

Good first step.

[ben shockley]

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

Firing government workers just lowers the pool of consumers.

Cutting government spending just puts those people/businesses who get those government spending dollars out of a job as well.

The problem is rich people hoarding all the cash for themselves and letting the proles live off credit.

That is Keynesian economics jett, and you should know that. These people are not producing anything, only taking, and often for unnecesary or harmful uses.
You should ask yourself exactly why the government needs to register your car every year. No reason except to raise money.

Then we move on to currency issues. You say paid government workers spend money, helping the economy. Well money represents things, specifically how many things you can buy or how long. So when you take money out of the equation, you are left with things.
Apples, oranges, peaches and cattle.
Cars, tractors, boats and generators
granite countertops, couches, tv's and telephones

So we no longer have a currency. It means (you) go down to Best Buy, pay that kruggerrand for the flatscreen and deliver it to your government master, who forces you to register your car every year for no other eeason than the fact that he needs to exist and have a job.

And another thing to realize is this: The government is the job of choice for niggers everywhere, especially fat ass black bitches, wo are able to avoid jail because there boyfriends are the ones dealing drugs and pimping for money.

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Mack Bartlow

Cut all "bailout" monies to corporations, welfare to illegal aliens and foreign nations. Full tax liability to any company that outsources.

I'm still opposed to the concept of nationalism. Voluntary Global Aryan Charity works best.

Originally Posted by Mack Bartlow

Then close the border, deport the illegals and other so-called immigrants.

Would it be more effective to encourage voluntary racial separation?

Originally Posted by Mack Bartlow

Good first step.

A step back into nationalism. Momentum toward globalism is strong. Such a step would be derailment of the train of commerce.

Originally Posted by ben shockley

That is Keynesian economics jett, and you should know that. These people are not producing anything, only taking, and often for unnecesary or harmful uses.
You should ask yourself exactly why the government needs to register your car every year. No reason except to raise money.

Then we move on to currency issues. You say paid government workers spend money, helping the economy. Well money represents things, specifically how many things you can buy or how long. So when you take money out of the equation, you are left with things.
Apples, oranges, peaches and cattle.
Cars, tractors, boats and generators
granite countertops, couches, tv's and telephones

So we no longer have a currency. It means (you) go down to Best Buy, pay that kruggerrand for the flatscreen and deliver it to your government master, who forces you to register your car every year for no other eeason than the fact that he needs to exist and have a job.

And another thing to realize is this: The government is the job of choice for niggers everywhere, especially fat ass black bitches, wo are able to avoid jail because there boyfriends are the ones dealing drugs and pimping for money.

There is no job that the government does that can't be better done in the private sector. The momentum toward privatization is growing. Government must be downsized, and current government bloating must be best directed toward becoming a strong private global force for defending life, liberty, and property rights.

http://www.freedom-force.org/

[Jett Rink]

Originally Posted by ben shockley

That is Keynesian economics jett, and you should know that. These people are not producing anything, only taking, and often for unnecesary or harmful uses.

The capitalist corporations have refined industrial production to the point where it takes so few workers to produce so much surplus goods that communist style distribution of manufactured goods is bound to happen. There simply exists not enough real necessary paying jobs to create a consumer pool to purchase their production output.

Almost everyone today is in a make-work occupation. It doesn't matter if they work for the government or a non-government entity.

We can go back to a more inefficient mode of production, so more people will have real work to do, but that can't/won't happen under the gigantic transnational corporations. They will have to be terminated.

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

The capitalist corporations have refined industrial production to the point where it takes so few workers to produce so much surplus goods that communist style distribution of manufactured goods is bound to happen. There simply exists not enough real necessary paying jobs to create a consumer pool to purchase their production output.

There's nothing stopping charitable organizations from engaging in fair goods distribution.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

Almost everyone today is in a make-work occupation. It doesn't matter if they work for the government or a non-government entity.

Work sets you free.

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

We can go back to a more inefficient mode of production, so more people will have real work to do, but that can't/won't happen under the gigantic transnational corporations. They will have to be terminated.

Free market transnational corporations created the global prosperity. They won't be terminated until they're obsolete, which won't likely happen any time in the next 100 years.

[Jett Rink]

It used to take 200 men three days to unload a ship with goods before 1980

Now it only takes 3 workers 8 hours.

The other 197 men are out of work and wont be buying any of those goods that were unloaded from that ship.

The government has to figure out a way to put those men to work, so we have "the health care industry", "the insurance industry", and other organizations that exist simply to create huge amounts of paper work and red tape to justify an income.

[ben shockley]

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

It used to take 200 men three days to unload a ship with goods before 1980

Now it only takes 3 workers 8 hours.

The other 197 men are out of work and wont be buying any of those goods that were unloaded from that ship.

The government has to figure out a way to put those men to work, so we have "the health care industry", "the insurance industry", and other organizations that exist simply to create huge amounts of paper work and red tape to justify an income.

By your logic, it would be better to have 400 men take six days to unload the ship. Make any sense to you?

[Jett Rink]

Originally Posted by ben shockley

By your logic, it would be better to have 400 men take six days to unload the ship. Make any sense to you?

It made a lot of sense to the Teamsters who promoted just that.

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

It used to take 200 men three days to unload a ship with goods before 1980

Now it only takes 3 workers 8 hours.

The other 197 men are out of work and wont be buying any of those goods that were unloaded from that ship.

The workforce are the elite. United Parcel Service first built a giant machine that sorts packages back in 2000. Employing a human sorter is still more economically viable.

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

The government has to figure out a way to put those men to work, so we have "the health care industry", "the insurance industry", and other organizations that exist simply to create huge amounts of paper work and red tape to justify an income.

Population influence and surveillance are the biggest upcoming industries.

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

It made a lot of sense to the Teamsters who promoted just that.

Gotta fill the Union dues coffers.

[alex]

Originally Posted by Curious

Lower taxes. Lower taxes means more economic growth. More economic growth means more tax revenue, so there is money to fill the gap. This is called Laffer curve. The reason why the deficit rose the last years, is because spending rose even more quickly.

Lower taxes will just lead to another bubble with a burst following it. The capitalist will take the increased profits out of manufacturing sector and invest it in the financial sector cause there is no big profit increase to be made in the manufacturing sector anymore. (Profit margins fall when more competitors enter the market. Higher competition leads to lower profits).

Originally Posted by ben shockley

By your logic, it would be better to have 400 men take six days to unload the ship. Make any sense to you?

Why not have the 400 men share the work of the three 8 hour full time employed. Have 10 of them work for 3 hours a day and taking turns every 4 weeks or so and all of that without any wage loss.

Utopic? Maybe, but the answer to advanced production (replacing human work with machines) has to be lower working hours and higher participation in the wealth creation. Lets imagine a white society where working 15 hours a week is more than enough to earn the necessities for you and your families basic and advanced needs. Rest of the time can be spend with the family and your hobbies.

[Kievsky]

Originally Posted by alex

Utopic? Maybe, but the answer to advanced production (replacing human work with machines) has to be lower working hours and higher participation in the wealth creation. Lets imagine a white society where working 15 hours a week is more than enough to earn the necessities for you and your families basic and advanced needs. Rest of the time can be spend with the family and your hobbies.

I agree with Alex. Americans need to understand that there's better things to do than just work and get drunk and watch TV. Hobbies are valuable but they take time and effort. I take violin lessons, but I'm just so exhausted at them. I was going to fiddle sessions once a week but I just don't have the energy. THe American lifestyle doesn't allow any time or energy for hobbies, and yet hobbies are what make life worthwhile. Also, physical activities like martial arts, yoga, bicycling, resistance training. Live longer and happier if you can do these things, but if you work a friggin' zillion hours a week, forget it.