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Yes, such people will tell you, just as this guy does, that it is silly and illogical to take pride in the deeds of your ancestors and then they will turn around and say you must feel guilt and atone for the what they chose to label the "bad" deeds of your ancestors. That kind of double think is illogical. Try to rationalize that one for me, Larry. Let's take the Germans as an example. If every individual German is basically nothing more than an accident of birth who would be completely foolish for taking any kind of collective pride in the achievements of those who came before them, then they also should not be forced into this neverending guilt about any supposed deeds of those who came before them. Deeds you people keep using to bleed them. Agreed? Last edited by The Barrenness; February 5th, 2009 at 01:03 AM. |
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The German people living today should be considered in no way responsible. (The same more or less applies to most Germans living at the time for that matter.) As I see it, the difficulties here arise when modern people are profiting from the crimes of their ancestors. I don't know how to resolve that, since modern people mostly enter such profitable situations by luck, and don't deliberately exploit past crimes. The descendants of colonists are an example of this. Quote:
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Kaffirs should thank us for colonialism, if not for it, they'd have gone to near extinction by now. Do you know what the life expectancy is for a "free" negro in Africa? 40, perhaps 50 at most in certain places. Do you know what the life expectancy of a nigger was during the "oppressed" colonial days? 65, a mere 10 years below that of a European.
We brought them cures to their disease, we brought them mass farming, we brought them well structured housing, the list is endless, Colonial Africa should thank us for the gifts we have given them, they should fall down on their starved little knee caps and thank us for ensuring their survival. I hate colonialism only for that reason, it prevented nature from taking it's course. Last edited by Karl Von Clausewitz!; February 6th, 2009 at 12:38 PM. |
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Aah, what are you replying to?
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Your preposterous claim that colonial descendants benefited from crimes committed against Africans. I don't think I need to delve into the rather obvious fact that a very limited amount of people were actually "rich", the only thing worth addressing is the claim of crimes and profiteering as a result of alleged crimes.
But then again you knew this, you just have no response to the facts regarding the matter. When you feel the need to make bold claims regarding matters, it's advisable that you consult material that extends beyond your rudimentary knowledge you gained from high-school, just some advice for you to consider. |
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You're "privy to" mistake my meaning, yes.
Given that I agreed that racial guilt is unreasonable, I'm not sure what you're problem is. |
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Oh, not again.
Obviously I meant "crime" in a broader sense. And I wasn't referring to a specific case. |
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"Broader sense" .i.e. you're using "crime" in a polemical manner to cast moral judgements and make them appear objective. Why don't you stop pretending and just say "sins of the fathers"?
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No you noob haha. I hope you're doing this deliberately.
If I kill someone and steal his fortune, then pass it on to my children who (unknowingly) spend it to live well, are they guilty? I'd say not, but it's a tricky situation. That's all I said. You may now die. |
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All I'm saying (if you could take 10 seconds to use a productive approach) is that I can see why people gravitate to the idea of heritable guilt, even if it's a very flawed idea. There's only so much good to be done by constantly giving your "opponents" an extreme categorisation (e.g., saying "fools such as you" to them). No gain comes from that, except for some perceived "victory" for one side (or in fact both). Also, it's frankly laughable that you say I'm having a tantrum when I make a flippant remark. You've been abusing me non-stop, a tactic whose use is so limited that I can only assume it comes from anger or the desire to satisfy aggressive impulses. |
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I have read that niggers have claimed that they were the ancient Greeks and Romans
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Subhuman niggers claim everything nowadays.
We offered them a finger and they grabbed the whole arm. To them everything is "black" if it only has a very small percentage of nigger genes. They would call Pushkin "black", haha. |
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