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Old July 27th, 2012 #1
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Default Completely alienating Christians isn't a wise move.

I'll admit that I'm not a Christian, nor do I believe in any of that nonsense personally. But we shouldn't be seeking to alienate them with our message. Last time I checked most White people are Christian, and if we tell their their religion sucks, even if its the truth, then that is just one more hurdle we have to climb over before we can get to the bottom of the real issues. As soon as you offend their religion, then they are going to be against whatever the rest of your message is.

Many of our predecessors who succeeded where we have failed have understood that you couldn't alienate a large % of the population, and expect to get positive results. Hitler sought to encourage "Positive Christianity", today I might classify that as someone who is Christian but is also against Jews.

We are better off just keeping religion out of the message.
 
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I'll admit that I'm not a Christian, nor do I believe in any of that nonsense personally. But we shouldn't be seeking to alienate them with our message. Last time I checked most White people are Christian, and if we tell their their religion sucks, even if its the truth, then that is just one more hurdle we have to climb over before we can get to the bottom of the real issues. As soon as you offend their religion, then they are going to be against whatever the rest of your message is.

Many of our predecessors who succeeded where we have failed have understood that you couldn't alienate a large % of the population, and expect to get positive results. Hitler sought to encourage "Positive Christianity", today I might classify that as someone who is Christian but is also against Jews.

We are better off just keeping religion out of the message.
The problem is that a Christian's first loyalty is to their Jewish god, not to their race.

Christianity, more than any other factor, is responsible for getting us into the mess that we are in right now.
 
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The problem is that a Christian's first loyalty is to their Jewish god, not to their race.

Christianity, more than any other factor, is responsible for getting us into the mess that we are in right now.
Technically I agree with all of that. I'm looking at it from the perspective of "My skin is my uniform", and "An enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Any Christians in the WN movement aren't supporting Jews. Even if their religion was founded on Jewish principles.

Its a division that needs to be overcome if we are going to make any progress. Us just telling them their religion sucks isn't going to win any of them over.

I used to be militantly anti-Christian, and have sense changed my mind and have came to the conclusion that I should keep my personal views on religion out of what is best for the movement.

Instead of completely slamming their religion, I am going to try and turn them against their Jewish masters. Sometimes I wish that Christians were as militantly against Jews as Muslims are, and then we would have a much easier time getting a coalition together against Jews. The one thing I can say about Muslims is at least they know who their enemies are.

You know I WISH our greatest problem was political and religious disagreements, but anyone who lives in reality knows that isn't the case. These CI people, I would be delighted if they were to find their own little area of the US, and form a group, free of Jewish threats, but that doesn't mean I have to join them or live their ideology. Political and religious disagreements could simply be solved by segregating based on political ideology and religion. But that would only work if Jews weren't vehemently trying to exterminate the White race. I'm a National Socialist, so naturally I'd refuse to live under a Libertarian Democracy, if I had a choice in the matter. But all those problems can be settled AFTER we deal with the Jewish problem.
 
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I'll admit that I'm not a Christian, nor do I believe in any of that nonsense personally. But we shouldn't be seeking to alienate them with our message. Last time I checked most White people are Christian, and if we tell their their religion sucks, even if its the truth, then that is just one more hurdle we have to climb over before we can get to the bottom of the real issues. As soon as you offend their religion, then they are going to be against whatever the rest of your message is.
The jews treat the christians like shit, and the christians bend over backwards to praise them and fight their wars.

When you treat christians like men, all you do is incur their disrespect. Abuse them and they'll love you.

Yet again I repeat: take your tips your clues your cues from winners, not losers.

What am I trying to do? How do the people who succeed at it do it? Gee, maybe I should see if I can copy their method.
 
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Technically I agree with all of that. I'm looking at it from the perspective of "My skin is my uniform", and "An enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Any Christians in the WN movement aren't supporting Jews. Even if their religion was founded on Jewish principles.

Its a division that needs to be overcome if we are going to make any progress. Us just telling them their religion sucks isn't going to win any of them over.

I used to be militantly anti-Christian, and have sense changed my mind and have came to the conclusion that I should keep my personal views on religion out of what is best for the movement.

Instead of completely slamming their religion, I am going to try and turn them against their Jewish masters. Sometimes I wish that Christians were as militantly against Jews as Muslims are, and then we would have a much easier time getting a coalition together against Jews. The one thing I can say about Muslims is at least they know who their enemies are.

You know I WISH our greatest problem was political and religious disagreements, but anyone who lives in reality knows that isn't the case. These CI people, I would be delighted if they were to find their own little area of the US, and form a group, free of Jewish threats, but that doesn't mean I have to join them or live their ideology. Political and religious disagreements could simply be solved by segregating based on political ideology and religion. But that would only work if Jews weren't vehemently trying to exterminate the White race. I'm a National Socialist, so naturally I'd refuse to live under a Libertarian Democracy, if I had a choice in the matter. But all those problems can be settled AFTER we deal with the Jewish problem.
Christian WNs are only Christians because they are intellectually deficient.

They don't really love Jesus or Yahweh - the Jewish/Christian "God" - they are afraid of them.

They are afraid that Yahweh is real, that hell is real, and that they will go to hell if they stop trying to convince themselves that he is real.

Deep down inside Christian WNs actually hate this Jewish god and his bastard half-mortal son, because they are Jewish.

It is an internal source of embarrassment to them, which they live with in a state of internalized shame.

"If only I could have complete and total assurance that the Jewish god is not real and that Jesus is only a dead Jew that will never come back and send me to hell if I don't bow down and worship him!" they think to themselves.

But because they have been brainwashed to believe it is real since earliest childhood, there can never be any assurance for them; so they continue on worshiping and secretly hating the Jew god they have been taught to believe in, because of the possibility in their mind that hell might be real.

That is the difference between a Christian WN and a regular Christian.

Regular Christians, some of them, actually have some sort of genuine heartfelt love for the Jewish deity and his "only begotten son" incarnate.

Some of them (perhaps a majority) might doubt he exists, but they still worship him out of fear; but don't hate him because of his Jewishness the way Christian WNs do.

WN Christians are not only intellectually retarded, they are cowards.
 
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I'll admit that I'm not a Christian, nor do I believe in any of that nonsense personally. But we shouldn't be seeking to alienate them with our message.

We are better off just keeping religion out of the message.
I posted this back in April of this year. Ignore Akins.

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Searching for the omitted section from the original National Alliance Handbook, dealing with Christianity as an opposed ideology, I came across this from Counter-Currents:


http://www.counter-currents.com/2010...-christianity/

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Greg, reading what Dr. Pierce, Founder of Cosmotheism, wrote to his members in 1982, shows that he had no intention of compromising with Xians. He wanted to disentangle our race from the clutches of this Abrahamic slave creed and strike out on a higher path.

Most Alliance members realized there was a spiritual aspect to the National Alliance, and that we took a decidedly dim view of Xianity. There were never any prayers at our meetings, or any other Xian trappings like that. To some of us the Alliance was our Church, grounded in reality and Nature, and race-centered.

Imagine how many Pierce loyalists who had dedicated their lives and fortunes to Alliance-building must have felt when Gliebe and Walker & Co. removed the entire following section from the second printing of the National Alliance Membership Handbook.

All else aside, that one ill-advised blunder could arguably be what did the Alliance in once and for all. Gliebe had gone big tent — for expediency and short term gains — and drove the Alliance into the ground from then on.



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2.d. OPPOSED IDEOLOGIES (written in 1992)
2d.vii. Christianity

The National Alliance is not a religious organization, in the ordinary sense of the term. It does, however, have to concern itself with religious matters, because religions influence the behavior of people, society, and governments. The doctrines of various religious groups—Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, et al.—deal with the temporal as well as spiritual matters and therefore often conflict with National Alliance doctrine.

Christian doctrines are of much greater concern to the National Alliance than the doctrines of other large religious groups, because Christianity is the most influential religion in the United States, Europe, and the rest of the White world. Most members of the National Alliance come from families which are, or a generation ago were, at least nominally Christian, and very few come from families which practice or practiced, Islam, Buddhism, or other religions. Furthermore, the history of our race for the last thousand years has been inextricably bound up with Christianity. The National Alliance really cannot avoid taking positions regarding Christian beliefs and practices, despite the complications this causes our work.

The immediate and inevitable fact which forces us to come to grips with Christianity is that the mainstream Christian churches are all, without exception, preaching a doctrine of White racial extinction. They preach racial egalitarianism and racial mixing. They preach non-resistance to the takeover of our society by non-Whites. It was the Christian churches, more than any other institution, which paralyzed the will of White South Africans to survive. It is the Christian establishment in the United States which is preeminent in sapping the will of White Americans to resist being submerged in the non-White tide sweeping across the land. Most Christian authorities collaborate openly with the Jews, despite the contempt and abuse they receive in return, and the rest at least follow Jewish policies on the all-important matter of race. The occasional anomaly—a Catholic bishop in Poland speaking out angrily against Jewish arrogance, a few Protestant groups in the United States expressing sympathy for oppressed Palestinians—does not invalidate the rule.

We are obliged, therefore, to oppose the Christians churches and to speak out against their doctrines. But we do not, as some groups have done, accuse the Christian leaders of being false Christians. We do not say, “We are the real Christians, because we stand for the values which the mainstream churches stood for a century ago, before they were subverted.” We do not reach for our Bibles and point to verses which seem to be in accord with the policies of the National Alliance and contrary to the present policies of the Christian churches. A diligent Bible scholar can find in the Judeo-Christian scriptures support for—or ammunition against—virtually any policy whatsoever.

Beyond the immediate conflict between us and the Christian churches on racial matters there is a long-standing and quite fundamental ideological problem with Christianity. It is not an Aryan religion; like Judaism and Islam it is Semitic in origin, and all its centuries of partial adaptation to Aryan ways have not changed its basic flavor. It was carried by a Jew, Saul of Tarsus (later known as Paul), from the Levant to the Greco-Roman world. Its doctrines that the meek shall inherit the earth and that the last shall be the first found fertile soil among the populous slave class in Rome. Centuries later, as Rome was succumbing to an internal rot in which Christianity played no small part, legions of Roman conscripts imposed the imported religion on the Celtic and Germanic tribes to the north.

Eventually Christianity became a unifying factor for Europe, and in the name of Jesus Europeans resisted the onslaught of Islamic Moors and Turks and expelled the “Christ-killing” Jews from one country after another. But the religion retained its alien mind-set, no matter how much some aspects of it were Europeanized. Its otherworldliness is fundamentally out of tune with the Aryan quest for knowledge and for progress; its universalism conflicts directly with Aryan striving for beauty and strength; its delineation of the roles of man and god offends the Aryan sense of honor and self-sufficiency.

Finally Christianity, like the other Semitic religions, is irredeemably primitive. Its deity is thoroughly anthropomorphic, and its “miracles”—raising the dead, walking on water, curing the lame and the blind with a word and a touch—are the crassest superstition.

We may have fond memories of the time before the Second World War when pretty, little girls in white dresses attended all-White Sunday schools, and Christianity seemed a bulwark of family values and a foe to degeneracy and indiscipline. We may cherish the tales of medieval valor, when Christian knights fought for god and king—if we can overlook the Christian church’s bloodthirsty intolerance, which stifled science and philosophy for centuries and sent tens of thousands of Europeans to the stake for heresy.

We may even find Christian ethics congenial, if we follow the standard Christian practice of interpreting many of its precepts—such as the one about turning the other cheek—in such a way that they do not interfere with our task. But we should remember that nothing essential in Christian ethics is specifically Christian. Any successful society must have rules of social conduct. Lying and stealing were shunned in every Aryan society long before Christianity appeared. Our pagan ancestors did not need Christian missionaries to tell them how to behave or to explain honor and decency to them—quite the contrary!

Historians may argue the pros and cons of Christianity’s role in our race’s past: whether or not the unity it provided during a period of European consolidation outweighed the loss of good genes it caused in the Crusades and the bloody religious wars of the Middle Ages (and through the Church’s policy of priestly celibacy); whether the splendid Gothic cathedrals which rose in Europe during the four centuries and the magnificent religious music of the 18th century were essentially Christian or essentially Aryan in inspiration; whether Christianity’s stand against the evils of self-indulgence—against gluttony and drunkenness and greed—was worth its shackling of the human mind in superstition or not. One thing already is clear, however: Christianity is not a religion that we can wish on future generations of our race.

We need ethics; we need values and standards; we need a world view. And if one wants to call all of these things together a religion, then we need a religion. One might choose instead, however, to call them a philosophy of life. Whatever we call it, it must come from our own race soul; it must be an expression of the innate Aryan nature. And it must be conducive to our mission of racial progress. Christianity, as the word is commonly understood, meets neither of these criteria.

The fact is that, completely aside from the racial question, no person who wholeheartedly believes Christian doctrine can share our values and goals, because Christian doctrine holds that this world is of little importance, being only a proving ground for the spiritual world which one enters after death. Christian doctrine also holds that the condition of this world is not man’s responsibility, because an omnipotent and omniscient deity alone has that responsibility.

Although some Christians do believe Christian doctrine wholeheartedly, however, most do not. Most instinctively feel what we explicitly believe, even if they have repressed those feelings in an effort to be “good” Christians. Because of this many nominal Christians, even those affiliated with mainstream churches, can, under the right circumstances, be persuaded to work for the interests of their race. Other nominal Christians—especially those who stand apart from any of the mainstream churches—have interpreted Christian doctrine in such an idiosyncratic way that the contradictions between their beliefs and ours have been minimized.

For these reasons we want to avoid conflict with Christians to the extent that we can. We don’t want to give unnecessary offense, even when we speak out against the doctrines of these churches. We don’t want to ridicule their beliefs, which in some cases are sincerely held. Some of these people later will reject Christianity’s racial doctrines. Some will reject Christianity altogether. We want to help them in their quest for truth when we can, and we want to keep the door open to them.

Members who want to study the subject of Christianity and its relationship to our task in depth should read Which Way Western Man? by our late member William Simpson. The book’s initial chapters describe the spiritual odyssey of a man of exceptional spiritual sensitivity, who was far more intensely a Christian than nearly any Christian living today and who eventually understood the racially destructive nature of Christianity and rejected it.

A more concise study of the difference between the Christian world view and ours is given in Wulf Sörensen’s The Voice of Our Ancestors, which was reprinted in National Vanguard No.107.
 
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The jews treat the christians like shit, and the christians bend over backwards to praise them and fight their wars.

When you treat christians like men, all you do is incur their disrespect. Abuse them and they'll love you.

Yet again I repeat: take your tips your clues your cues from winners, not losers.

What am I trying to do? How do the people who succeed at it do it? Gee, maybe I should see if I can copy their method.
Looking back in the past I see leaders like Hitler who managed to control the Christians or at least guide them in a positive direction. We can simply placate them and guide them down a path, which will eventually lead to this Jewish religion dying out in a generation or 2. Its a problem that can't be solved overnight. Do you think Hitler would have gotten as far as he did if he completely alienated Christians?

The Christians who are getting treated like shit, and are still pro-Jewish are the sheeple. There are some of these people who half way wise up, but still maintain their religion, and these should be the people we should seek to acquire in the movement.

You should ask Rounder how many Christians he had in his ranks. He managed to guide them toward more positive goals. Do you think he would have gotten as many people as he did if he completely alienated their religious beliefs?

Christians aren't the cream of the crop or the sharpest tools in the shed, but if they are rallied toward more positive goals they go out in the street and support the cause, and can be good soldiers on the street. If we can get men out in the street representing the White race and its interests, I honestly couldn't care if they are Christians or not.

Linder, I can tell you right now, being from Kentucky that if a movement started in this area that was Anti-Christian, the crickets would be chirping, and you would likely be getting into fist fights with fellow Whites over the message. That kind of message, and that kind of movement, simply wouldn't work here. Something like what Rounder did might very well work here.
 
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Looking back in the past I see leaders like Hitler who managed to control the Christians or at least guide them in a positive direction. We can simply placate them and guide them down a path, which will eventually lead to this Jewish religion dying out in a generation or 2. Its a problem that can't be solved overnight.

The Christians who are getting treated like shit, and are still pro-Jewish are the sheeple. There are some of these people who half way wise up, but still maintain their religion, and these should be the people we should seek to acquire in the movement.

You should ask Rounder how many Christians he had in his ranks. He managed to guide them toward more positive goals.

Christians aren't the cream of the crop or the sharpest tools in the shed, but if they are rallied toward more positive goals they go out in the street and support the cause, and can be good soldiers on the street.
They all need lobotomies.
 
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They all need lobotomies.
Would you go out in public, stand on a podium, tell them they worship a Jew on a stick, that died, and they need lobotomies? You say you live in Dixie, how well do you think that would go over with the locals?
 
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How do you figure out that "most white people are christian?" Most white people are atheists, non-believers or couldn't give a f***ers.

Most white people don't give a monkeys, in my experience. They have other, more pressing things to worry about then a spirit in the sky (oh great, now I'll be Tourrettes'ing that all day) and handing over their hard earned to one of the richest institutions in the land on the promise that a mythical ghost from an alien religion will save them.

If people don't have the sense to see that the whole thing is bullshit, why do we want to save them? You can argue a christian into a corner with facts and figures and prove to them that christianity isn't theirs and they still won't see the light.
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Like a lead balloon; but then, so would telling them that the American government and most of our society is controlled by an ethnic group that only accounts for 2% of America's population.

If I told them that Jews are not White, they would shake their heads and walk away.
 
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How do you figure out that "most white people are christian?" Most white people are atheists, non-believers or couldn't give a f***ers.

Most white people don't give a monkeys, in my experience. They have other, more pressing things to worry about then a spirit in the sky (oh great, now I'll be Tourrettes'ing that all day) and handing over their hard earned to one of the richest institutions in the land on the promise that a mythical ghost from an alien religion will save them.

If people don't have the sense to see that the whole thing is bullshit, why do we want to save them? You can argue a christian into a corner with facts and figures and prove to them that christianity isn't theirs and they still won't see the light.
With all due respect, Bev, the apathetic attitude that Britons have in regard to Christianity is hardly representative of the attitudes held by the majority of Americans, many of whom are convinced that Yahweh is real and that "Jesus is coming soon, so you better get ready and get right with the Lord!"



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*d'oh*

I keep forgetting I'm not in the UK any more, Toto.

It's unfathomable to me how come so many fully formatted adults can believe in a myth to the point of mania. (and sometimes beyond.)
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*d'oh*

I keep forgetting I'm not in the UK any more, Toto.

It's unfathomable to me how come so many fully formatted adults can believe in a myth to the point of mania. (and sometimes beyond.)
I live in a nation surrounded by these nuts and I can't believe people like them are still around in the 21st century.

Did you glimpse either of thoses Youtube segments that I posted?

I live in a county with a population of only about 28,000 people, and yet there are no less than 243 churches in this one county, and most of them sound like that every Sunday.
 
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Would you go out in public, stand on a podium, tell them they worship a Jew on a stick, that died, and they need lobotomies? You say you live in Dixie, how well do you think that would go over with the locals?
Not well at all. The issue of Christianity and Whites is not an easy one to resolve. Hacking loogies on them collectively isn't exactly the answer from a political pov, even though it might be satisfying from an emotional pov.
 
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How do you figure out that "most white people are christian?" Most white people are atheists, non-believers or couldn't give a f***ers.

Most white people don't give a monkeys, in my experience. They have other, more pressing things to worry about then a spirit in the sky (oh great, now I'll be Tourrettes'ing that all day) and handing over their hard earned to one of the richest institutions in the land on the promise that a mythical ghost from an alien religion will save them.

If people don't have the sense to see that the whole thing is bullshit, why do we want to save them? You can argue a christian into a corner with facts and figures and prove to them that christianity isn't theirs and they still won't see the light.
That might be the case in England, but I live in what they call the "Bible belt" in the USA. Its 95% Christian here. You know how nutty it is in my area? There is a Seventh Day Adventist Church 2 miles down the road from me. And another Church 10 miles the other way that are the Snake handling Xians.




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Mark 16:15-20 And he ( JESUS) said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.


Lu 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

1co 2:4-5 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
Just when you think it can't get any nuttier.....

Anyway, welcome to Dixie.
 
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That might be the case in England, but I live in what they call the "Bible belt" in the USA. Its 95% Christian here. You know how nutty it is in my area? There is a Seventh Day Adventist Church 2 miles down the road from me. And another Church 10 miles the other way that are the Snake handling Xians.

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Just when you think it can't get any nuttier.....
Every one of the red dots on the map below is a church in the area surrounding where I live. All of them are Protestant except for one, a Catholic church:

 
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My ultimate goal for the Christian issue, is for this religion to eventually be accepted as a mythology, and it will go the way of Roman Paganism. Until then we should try to at least organize them to do more productive things.
 
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Christianity cannot completely be viewed as a problem as the White race achieved extreme levels of power and technological supremacy over other races while the various Christian churches were very powerful.

The most dangerous element of Christianity in my opinion is its universalism which tends to expand the sphere of social priority beyond that of the nations of our race. Though obviously there are many different versions of Christianity, some of which do not do this, but as to which version of Christianity is the 'true' version of Christianity, well, that is debatable.

I think the best way to handle Christianity within White Nationalist circles is to treat it as but one religion amongst many religions.

I'm not certain if any god, gods or supernatural forces are at work, and if they do, I do not know exactly who they are, nor what their plans are, nor whether or not they involve us, for better or for worse. But what I am more certain of is that survival is the mutual objective of all living things, and that if White mortal men and women do not secure the appropriate survivalistic means, they could find themselves in a very difficult position.

We need to do what we must to survive and thrive.
 
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