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1st amendment law on leafletting
This excerpt is from a decent article surveing First amendment law concerning leafletting and handbills. Distribution of TAA is being accomplished in similar manner and so the same principles would adhere. If you are a TAA distributor you may wish to print off some of this authority if you are concerned about being arrested for your exercise of your constitutionally protect free speech rights.
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a case which may be of interest from those notes:
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Hey A.E. Isn't there something a little less ambiguous, and more revelant to passing out so-called "White Supremacist" or "Hate" literature ?? I mean surely the right to pass out our kind of literature had been specifically ruled upon by the US Supreme Court at some time or another. Or has it ? And assuming it has, where do I find documentation of that court ruling?
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If something clear and concise can be had, we might have more distributors.
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Rounder and ohgolly,
The whole purpose of the courts is to "interpret" something like what AE posted. If it were clear, concise and less ambigous then the police would interpret law before it got to the courts and that is what the founding fathers did not want. The whole of the law isn't just the constitution and bill of rights. It composes things like the Federalist papers and case law too not to mention common law. I like it better that way since the newsmedia and local police think they can arbitrarily make up what is illegal and what is not. Let them arrest us. It won't get past the 24 hour window when the prosecutor has to write up a formal indictment. No prosecutor in the usa will hold a white supremacist for leafleting. That's why they had to send in a agent provacatuer in the Matt Hale case... they origninaly had nothing on him. If they do arrest us and hold us for a few hours it will be big news and draw millions to the VNN website. |
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Goes without saying that people engaged in distribution should not only be following the law but also have sanitized their vehicles for any contraband including unlawful weapons. Weapons can be a tricky business because what's legal in one state is illegal in another, and there are some fine lines. Best to err on the side of going entirely unarmed if you are doing distribution. It's worth the self defense risk not to get caught in any problems along those lines. I'm thinking not just firearms here, of course some people are not supposed to have firearms at all for various reasons, but even stuff like folding knives and so forth. Also those things would tar up our side. Distrbutino of TAA tabloid is both lawful and has been done by people in an entirely peaceable manner, and I believe it's going to stay that way. It's certainly in our best interests that this continues as successfully as it has so far. |
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October 23rd, 2005 | #9 |
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We should never accept "hate" as any kind of marker for what we're doing. It is nothing but a jewish smear. "Hate" has no legal meaning, no historical meaning -- it has no meaning at all. It is purely a label created by jews to smear white men resisting genocide.
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You're right though, Alex. Hey A.E., what we need is a short "notice" we can fit onto a business card that provides the US Supreme Court's ruling, and that our distributors can show cops if they're ever stopped and questioned for passing out tAAs. So how bout rigging up something, and post it here, so I can have some cards printed to send to our distributors along with their shipments of TAA. Whatchasay ??
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Sure would be great to get at least a few TAA#4's made available on the UCSB campus soon. The ADL is pressuring them to get certified as a "Hate Free Zone". See: List of Local Hate-Free Places Excludes UCSB
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Hell, you might even phone the ACLU just for kicks. And they might provide some valuable insights/references/documents/case precedents, etc. Many more VNN'ers will distribute TAAs, if we provide them with proof there's nothing to fear from cops.
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First Amendment law on leafleting
It would seem on the face of it that there are several cases that have struck down ordinances specifically aimed at curbing leafleting. Some of these seem to have been local littering ordinances. Forgive me if I am vague with the word 'seems', but I am no law expert and some of what I read is a bit ambiguous to me. Let me say now for the record that if Ron and I are ever stopped for leafleting-while-White, we plan to tell the cops exactly what we are doing and let them charge us with whatever jew-friendly local littering ordinance they so choose. These tinhorn cops do not scare me with their bluster about 'this may violate the city's littering ordinance,' blah, blah, blah. They have to say that for their ZOG masters. It may not hurt to have a copy of these cases handy, or even transcripts of the recent cases in which WNs who were distributing pro-White literature were acquitted. However, do not pin all your hopes on this. The cops will charge you if they see fit, and if they do, you will have to go to court. You will be acquitted, and after you are found not guilty you have the right to slap the city that charged you with a civil rights lawsuit for your trouble. If the donut-eaters do charge you, do not be rude, obey them, even if you feel like smashing their heads in or running over them with your car. You have the right to remain silent if you so choose, and the 5 words, "I have nothing to say" works wonders. If they ask to search your vehicle, refuse them, but if they do anyway, let them. Note this in court. They will most likely confiscate your TAAs; do not fight them over it. You will get your day in court and in the sun. A few journalists that write for the zionist jewsmedia have written that the distributors of TAA and other pro-White publications hope to get an arrest because of the publicity it would generate. I do not hope to get charged with anything but if I do, the legal system in the city or town I get charged in will wish they had never been born. And I might just take some of their money home with me as well!!! White Southern Solidarity. :box: :box:
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Dealing With Police/Courts
Ironguard1940 gives some pretty good advice. I'd like to add a few things.
While Engaged In a TAA distro: 1.Obey all traffic laws. This includes wearing your seatbelt, using your turn signal. Before you go out take a minute and check out your vehicle. Don't go out with a burned out headlight or a burned out turn signal/tail light. 2. If cars are behind you, pull over and let them around. You do not want to be charged with "impeding traffic". If you are stopped by Police while doing a TAA distro: 1. Remain calm, let the Police start the conversation. They might have only stopped you for a burned out tail light. 2. Since you are operating a motor vehicle they do have the right to ask for your license and registration. You do not have to provide the identies of any other occupants in your vehicle.If you feel so inclinded to answer their questions, do so truthfully. Otherwise stick to "I have nothing to say." Don't think you can outwit the cops, chances are you won't. The cops learned all the mind games as part of their training. I would be very hesitant to "admit" to anything. You'll get your day in court. 3. Don't have a badass attitude with the cops. Do not make any moves that could be considered aggressive. Stay in your vehicle with your hands on the steering wheel unless instructed otherwise. If they put handcuffs on you, do not resist. If you as much as pull away that is considered resisting arrest and they can use damn near any means to place you under control. They may be trampling all over your rights, but you'll get your day in court. Remember they have all the power at this point. 3. The best thing you can do is listen and remember. If you can write down names, badge numbers, car numbers. If you can't write them down, do your best to memorize them. 4. After several minutes ask them if you are free to go. If you are told no, politely ask what you are being detained for? You of course never consent to a vehicle search period. If you see them tearing through your car and seizing your TAAs, ask them for a receipt for your property. 5. If you are issued a summons-sign it. In most places a signature on a minor summons is your bond. Guess what happens if you don't sign it? You'll be arrested and definitely not score any points with a judge. 6. If you are taken to the police station chances are they just want to photograph you through their 2 way window. Do not "confess" to anything or sign any statement. When You Get To Court: 1. Never accuse the cops of lying (even if they are). Remember the judges and the cops know each other and you are in their arena. 2. If you are found guilty, appeal and demand a jury trial. This option will vary state by state. Most of our folks already know this stuff, but a friendly reminder doesn't hurt. |
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Good advice by Ironguard1940 and SA Mann, two highly experienced distributors. TAA distributors really don't have much to worry about from the cops, though.
HEY A.E. !!! Let's not drop the ball on this. Get Alex's approval for the final version so I have the cards printed. OK ??
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November 24th, 2005 | #20 |
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TAA distributors need the card - it gives us amo if we get stopped by the cops for our legal distribution of our newspaper. It will help TAA distibutors ( like myself ) to be a bit more "forth coming" in our reach as we know the law is in our favor and we can prove it.
It will be great to give our card to a misinformed (ADL trained ) cops - it will rock his ( or her ) world. Reminder.... Be nice to law and enforcement - but once they arrest you - GIVE THEM THE CARD - and from that point say..."I have nothing to say". Itz not illegal to give out The Aryan Alternative - But the Jews who we fight against - may one day - make it illegal - We must FIGHT to make that NOT happen. The Aryan Alternative - Itz Free Speech in a Newspaper ! |
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