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Old July 16th, 2018 #1
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What does everybody here think about that movie?


The plot . . .

Mysterious death cases happen in a monestary during the high Middle Ages ( 14th century ) , located in Northern Italy . . . at that time two foreign monks visit the monestary ( William of Baskerville and his novice Adso of Melk . . ) . . .


William Of Baskerville begins investigating the cases . . The monks proclaim their medieval superstition by believing "the Devil goes around in this monestary . . ." . .William of Baskerville is a bit more "reasonable" though . . .
He approaches the whole thing in a more "rational" way . . .

The movie goes on with the two monks connecting clues . .
In the end it turns out that , contrary to what the monks held for true, no "supernatural power" was behind those deaths . . .
The movie also features a conflict between the "faithful" monks and the more "reasonable" William . . . he is portrayed as , over the years , having learned to distrust Christianity . .

Thus far the plot . .

My personal opinion . .

It is a movie very critical of Christianity . . . it is set in the high Middle Ages . . . .

Umberto Eco , who wrote the novel , is said to be an esoteric man . . .


. . a 'humanist' , as some would deem it . . . .


Like I said , the plot is very critical of Christianity . . .
While the monks are shown giving in to their "superstition", William is trying to approach it in a reasonable way . . .
The movie also contains some very strong quotes ( too many to name . .)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091605/quotes

One might draw one's own conclusions from those quotes . . .

Umberto Eco is a man very critical of Christianity ( apparently ) which is probably why he made up the plot . . .

Interesting . . . .

Concerning the movie itself . . . .
I think it is put in scene quite well . . . it opens up the world of society of the high Middle Ages with its strict devotion . . .







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Old July 16th, 2018 #2
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Little remark on the brik . .

Since this movie is set in a world much more 'faithful' than today , I find it notable how many cases of the Vrigin Mary 'appearing' were reported during the Middle Ages . . .

Still today , religious people share such stories. . . .

The most notable case , though , was during World War 1 , "Our Blessed Lady At Fatima" . . .

For those who claim such visions , are they "no longer out in the open" today ?

Very few cases still are reported . . .


Even in recent years . .

 
Old July 16th, 2018 #3
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Great Movie. I enjoyed every bit of it. Also read the book.
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James Bond, Hugo Drax and Emperor Palpatine all in the same movie.
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Great Movie. I enjoyed every bit of it. Also read the book.
https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=...1&postcount=52
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James Bond, Hugo Drax and Emperor Palpatine all in the same movie.
lol . . yes . .

Makes me think of this . .
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/sho...10&postcount=9
 
Old August 29th, 2018 #6
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On a side note , concerning the story . .

Eco said that he used a lot of allusions . .

For example , the name of one of the protagonists "William Of Baskerville" is an allusion to Sherlock Holmes . .

The most notable story by Holmes-inventor Arthut Conan Doyle is "The Hound Of The Baskervilles" . .

Quite a clever allusion to make people think of Holmes . . .

His apprectice "Adso Of Melk" points to "Watson" , Sherlock's helper . .

Watson . . Adso . . Cleverly chosen letters . . .


Eco confirmed that himself . .


The movie also deals with two "detectives" solving a case of murder . . .


Eco gave the works of A. C. Doyle as one of his biggest influences . .


And indeed , to this day , A. C. Doyle remains one of the all-time classics of world literature . .


. . or "Sir Arthur" , as some prefer ( he received multiple knighthoods . .)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur...urs_and_awards

Quite ironic , on a side note , that one of the most famous Brits in newer history , or one who created one of the most notable fictional British characters , if you will , was surnamed "Arthur" . .



 
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