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Old December 4th, 2003 #1
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I realize that many of you do not like what you define as capitalism. We will just have to agree to disagree on the topic of economics.

What I will like to hear from are those who are familiar with the Klan. This seems to be the only group where I will fit in since I am not a national socialist nor the religious type.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #2
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I realize that many of you do not like what you define as capitalism. We will just have to agree to disagree on the topic of economics.

What I will like to hear from are those who are familiar with the Klan. This seems to be the only group where I will fit in since I am not a national socialist nor the religious type.
I'm not sure if there are any other Klan supporters or members on here, but most Klans are fairly religious (Christian/Identity) groups. You might want to check out White Revolution - they don't seem to enforce one economic or religious idealogy.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #3
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This seems to be the only group where I will fit in since I am not a national socialist nor the religious type.
It's my understanding that KKK groups have become more and more hardcore and extreme Christian over the years.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #4
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Thank you for the replies.

I may have to begin from scratch.

Understand that I regard all white racialist groups as friends even though we will disagree on economical issues. But I have to stand for what I know is right for my fellow white people, even if I have to stand alone.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #5
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National Socialism is a system of society for Whites which is merit-based, while taking care of the needs of those who cannot support themselves because of disease, age or accident. Its about art and evolution and love.
Are you sure your not a National Socialist?
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #6
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It's my understanding that KKK groups have become more and more hardcore and extreme Christian over the years.
I personally find the KKK and Nazism a bit embarrassing, and besides, both groups lost. I think white nationalism fits the bill the best.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #7
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Let me state flat out, GROUPS, ORANIZATIONS, ARE BULLSHIT.

Did the whites who came to America need a group to join?

Nope they were united as the white race.

They were united in the fact that they were being abused by the English monarchy. We need to get the same thing going again. We need to focus white attention on the fact we are now being abused by the District of Columbia.

The District of Columbia is not a part of America it is in the eyes of the law a foreign country.

We as a federation of states are being lured into contracts with this foreign country. The District of Columbia lures the states into cooperation with its plans of white genocide by offering money in exchange for agreeing to its terms for whatever.

Back to the topic though.

We dont need more groups. We are already members in the most prestigious group there is, and you cant join you can only be born into it.

Groups no matter what they promote divide.

We need to unite only as white people against the jews.

No dogma no rhetoric just whites against a foreign invader, ----> the jews.

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Old December 5th, 2003 #8
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I personally find the KKK and Nazism a bit embarrassing, and besides, both groups lost. I think white nationalism fits the bill the best.
They are an absolute joke and embarassment to our movement. They make us look like a bunch of fucking clowns, we need something real not some garbage fringe shit.
 
Old December 5th, 2003 #9
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the KKK had hundreds of thousands of members to it's "crazy organization". Lots of whites sure didn't think so. The KKK is the most successful white organization in the history of the United States.
 
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the KKK had hundreds of thousands of members to it's "crazy organization". Lots of whites sure didn't think so. The KKK is the most successful white organization in the history of the United States.

Maybe so in the past but come on, what are they doing today, shooting each other in the head?.The KKK has an obviously awful, awful stereotype, probably worse than any other organization out there. When the average lemming hears KKK he automatically thinks "what a bunch of hate filled racist redneck lowlifes" the assiocation with the klan is low class and crass. The klan is a joke now, there numbers are small and there influence is nil. What the hell are they going to help us with?, marching down city halls ranting and raving in klan robes only reinforces how stupid and silly they are. We whites need something new, a legitimate "white" party like the BNP in britian, the groups out there today are nothing but a extremists organizations with megalomaniatic fanatasies. Lets get real the klan, Neonazis, skinheads, WCTOC and other losers groups wont help us with our long term goal. The national alliance and White revolution and few others seem to be decent but the rest are fringe organizations filled with tatoo-wearing "Rahowa" type guys. We need the real thing no more games the playtime is over, Lets develop something real this time.
 
Old December 5th, 2003 #11
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Maybe so in the past but come on, what are they doing today, shooting each other in the head?.The KKK has an obviously awful, awful stereotype, probably worse than any other organization out there. When the average lemming hears KKK he automatically thinks "what a bunch of hate filled racist redneck lowlifes" the assiocation with the klan is low class and crass. The klan is a joke now, there numbers are small and there influence is nil. What the hell are they going to help us with?, marching down city halls ranting and raving in klan robes only reinforces how stupid and silly they are. We whites need something new, a legitimate "white" party like the BNP in britian, the groups out there today are nothing but a extremists organizations with megalomaniatic fanatasies. Lets get real the klan, Neonazis, skinheads, WCTOC and other losers groups wont help us with our long term goal. The national alliance and White revolution and few others seem to be decent but the rest are fringe organizations filled with tatoo-wearing "Rahowa" type guys. We need the real thing no more games the playtime is over, Lets develop something real this time.
It sounds like you should go over here "Where Does the White Movement Go From Here?": http://www.vnnforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22
None of the groups you mentioned are doing what you want.

Just to answer the original poster, the Klan has always been a Christian group so that would not fit the bill for you. It was very effective after that War and was even potent through the middle of the 20th century. It would seem that the glory days are long gone but I have no crystal ball.
 
Old December 5th, 2003 #12
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National Socialism is a system of society for Whites which is
merit-based, while taking care of the needs of those who
cannot support themselves because of disease, age or
accident. Its about art and evolution and love.
Are you sure you're not a National Socialist?
SMG3000 Sir,

Randolph has made it very clear in his many posts
that he is "anti-National Socialist".


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Old December 5th, 2003 #13
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They are an absolute joke and embarassment to our movement. They make us look like a bunch of fucking clowns, we need something real not some garbage fringe shit.
Very refreshing to see such honesty.
 
Old December 5th, 2003 #14
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Groups, no matter what they promote, divide.

We need to unite only as white people against the jews.

No dogma no rhetoric just whites against a foreign invader, ----> the jews.
That is your dogmatic rhetoric...
 
Old December 5th, 2003 #15
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Let me state flat out, GROUPS, ORANIZATIONS, ARE BULLSHIT...
Groups no matter what they promote divide.
SN, Not every Org/Group has been as you state.
Almost all are but there is a recent exception.
I refer you to this quote by SMG300:

National Socialism is a system of society for Whites which
is merit-based, while taking care of the needs of those who
cannot support themselves because of disease, age or
accident. Its about art and evolution and love.
Are you sure you're not a National Socialist?


And the following historical observation:

The power of an image is simplicity and clarity. Today, I want to give you such an image - small but lovely and exquisite, of a world that could have been.

It is taken from General Leon Degrelle's "Hitler: Democrat":


". . . they all began to live as comrades, the workers knowing that the rich man's son was not a monster, and the young lad from the wealthy family knowing that the worker's son had honor just like another young fellow who had been more generously favored by birth.

Social hatred was disappearing. A socially united people was being born.

It was always like that in the Third Reich. No foreign spectator, however mulish, could fail to appreciate that.

Hitler had envisioned housing that would be beautiful, cozy, and on a grand scale. He didn't intend to house the German people as his predecessor had, in rabbit warrens. Those great barracks filled with human beings on the outskirt of labor town filled him with horror. Most of the houses he designed were single story detached dwellings, with a small garden where the kids could romp, the wife could gather a few salad greens, and the man could read his newspaper in peace after his day's work.

Loans amortizable in ten years were granted to newly married couples who wished to settle permanently in their homes. At the birth of each child, a fourth of the debt was canceled. Four children at the normal rate of a new arrival every two years and a half, and the family had no more payments to make.

(Degrelle) expressed (his) astonishment at this to Hitler one day.

"But then, you never get back the total amount of your loans?"

"How so?" he replied, smiling. "Over a period of ten years, a family with four children brings in more than our loans in the taxes levied on a hundred different items of consumption."

Every tax revenue increased proportionately with the increase in the cost of Hitler's social programs. Tax returns quite naturally tripled in a few years.

There was never a financial crisis in Hitler's Germany. . . "

"It is necessary that I should die for my people, but my spirit will rise from the grave, and the world will know that I was right."

(Adolf Hitler, 1889 - 1945)

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Old December 5th, 2003 #16
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National Socialism has its points. Its got all the answers, sure.

But it leaves people with the feeling of mass manufactured lives. A sort of McDonalds way of life where everything is done for them already, pre-packaged.

You have to admit that people like mystery, adventure and the chance of losing it all. This is why the jews way of doing business is so appealing to people.

This should not be about which government is best.

What we really need to do is focus simply on kicking out the jews and destroy thier nests around the world.

We need to unite white's simply on being white to get the job done.

The rest will solve itself.
 
Old December 6th, 2003 #17
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We whites need something new, a legitimate "white" party like the BNP in britian, the groups out there today are nothing but a extremists organizations with megalomaniatic fanatasies. Lets get real the klan, Neonazis, skinheads, WCTOC and other losers groups wont help us with our long term goal.
I totally agree with this. The WCTOC probably appeals to me on a intectual level, put it is just to damn fringe to join.
 
Old December 6th, 2003 #18
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I realize that many of you do not like what you define as capitalism.

What I will like to hear from are those who are familiar with the Klan.
Around here, the Klan is remembered for doing a lot more than chasing Negroes out. They rebuilt large parts of the south. If they weren't members of a Jewish religion, I'd probably spend more time talking to them.

Capitalism I dislike, competition I don't. Capitalism is not the only form of "economic" competition that can exist, but it's important to remember: the goal of capitalism is to accrue money, and thus society selects for reproduction those who make money at all costs.

Those aren't the best people.
 
Old December 6th, 2003 #19
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We need to unite white's simply on being white to get the job done.
I don't agree that "the rest will solve itself" - if we fix the values of mainstream white people, the racial aspects will be understood and no longer considered "extremist." Focusing on race alone forces you into single-issue voter territory, which is a quick route to internal division and disenfranchisement.
 
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