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Old December 4th, 2003 #1
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There is much confusion among people today on what is money. Most think that money is what they carry in their pockets. what you carry in your pocket is a "money substitute" not money.

Pull out a dollar bill and examine it. Right along the top are the words "Federal Reserve Note." What you are carrying is a bank note. Years ago before the jews took away our gold and banks, bank notes were actually "warehouse reciepts" redeemable in X amount of weight in gold or silver, the actual money.

In 1933, the federal government highjacked our gold and then made it illegal for individuals to hold onto it. They claimed that it was a national emergency. What they did was turn our dollars, which were bank notes redeemable in 1/20th gold oz., into a fiat money subsitute. It would have been basically worthless if two seperate laws were not also passed. Those laws are the legal tender laws and giving the Fed the monopoly on printing bank notes.

http://www.mises.org/money.asp
What Has Government Done to Our Money? by Murray N. Rothbard

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm...nger/money.txt
On the Origins of Money
Economic Journal, volume 2,(1892) p. 239-55.
translated by C.A. Foley
by Carl Menger


The white man needs to educate himself. I have provided you with two excellent sources.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #2
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Default Randolph, I have a question...

what is the difference between interest and usury? I know they are similiar if not the same, and both are of probably jewish origin.

Beyond that, I don't know. How are they individually defined?
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Old December 4th, 2003 #3
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There is no real difference. Usury is a term used by those who cannot get what they want when they want it.

I am running out of time, see my post under Usury.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #4
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Thanks for the links...
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #5
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'Money' these days isnt backed by anything in the USA, that is why your economy is failing. Your best bet is to invest in gold.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #6
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Default What is money? www.mises.org

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randolph
http://www.mises.org/money.asp
What Has Government Done to Our Money? by Murray N. Rothbard

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm...nger/money.txt
On the Origins of Money

The white man needs to educate himself. I have provided you with two
excellent sources.
I think most WNs are tired of geting their information from Kikes..
At least I hope so.


As The Final Solution posted in another thread of Randolph's titled: Case Against the Fed

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=80

The Final Solution writes:

Mises, Rothbard, Ayn Rand (Anna Rosenbaum), Milton Friedman and most of the rest of the libbertoons have been kikes. The radical individualism they advocated is just as incompatible with White values as the other grand kike yideology--bolshevism. In practice, so-called libertarianism is just a smokescreen for kike swindling. Witness deregulation as in kike Fastow's Enron.

There is certainly a good case against Paul Warburg's Fed usury temple--just don't get it from another kike. As the Protocols show, they take all sides of all issues just to confuse the gullible goyim. And always to serve kike interests. Never yours, White man.


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Old December 4th, 2003 #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Demigorgona
'Money' these days isnt backed by anything in the USA, that is
why your economy is failing. Your best bet is to invest in gold.
Demi,

You might want to delve a little deeper into the 'money issue'.
As usual there's more 'than meets the eye'.
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Oh yes! I agree with Randolph 100% on one point:

If A.H. had enslaved his folk to the Jew Money Powers
there would have been no WW2!

The Death of the Jewish Money Powers

"Hitler began his rule by breaking with the international bankers.
He believed that Germany could never be a sovereign and really
independent state so long as she had to live on borrowed money.
Instead of going to the bankers for money to buy what she had to
procure from abroad, she bartered (that is, swapped) some of her
surplus to obtain what she needed from the surplus of other nations -
- without debts being incurred on either side.

And with this approach Germany was soon crowding out all competitors.
Moreover, for the money required to finance her vast programs for a
complete regeneration of the life of the German people and for making
Germany the most powerful state in Europe, he simply issued what
money was needed, on the authority of the German government, and
based it not on gold, of which he had none, but on the productive
wealth of the land within German confines, combined with the
productivity inherent in German brains and German labor.


"And it proved sound. It worked. In less than ten years Germany
became easily the most powerful state in Europe. It worked so
magically and magnificently that it sounded the death knell of the
entire Jewish money system. World Jewry knew that they had to
destroy Hitler's system, by whatever means might prove necessary,
or their own [system] would necessarily die.

And if it died, with it must die their dream and their hope of making
themselves masters of the world.


The primary issue over which World War II was fought was to
determine which money system was to survive. At bottom it
was not a war between Germany and the so- called allies.
Primarily it was war to the death between Germany and
the International Money Power."

William Gayley Simpson, 'Which Way Western Man' (p.642)
Available from National Vanguard Books.

Now we must again ask WHY would the Good Christian
American, English and other people fight and die to destroy
the jews greatest enemy. Millions of Aryans died to save the
jewish Money Powers.


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Old December 4th, 2003 #8
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Quote:
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'Money' these days isnt backed by anything in the USA, that is why your economy is failing. Your best bet is to invest in gold.
That is where you and the oh so lost Randolph would be wrong.

Our money is backed by the mineral and timber wealth of the federal lands of the west. The District of Columbia has run out of land to back their T-bills with so they have to invaid IRAQ and use its Oil as collateral for more foreign loans.

Ive been down this road years ago about gold. Trust me Randolph you must be a newbie because when you find out how the economy really works (and they dont print it in a book that you can buy) you will learn that >gold, sea shells, dirt,< it does not matter what you tie your monetary system to, its all the same just different numbers.

What matters is that you dont have jew parasites funneling your profits into their hands while riding the white mans back.
 
Old December 4th, 2003 #9
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That is where you and the oh so lost Randolph would be wrong.

Our money is backed by the mineral and timber wealth of the federal lands of the west. The District of Columbia has run out of land to back their T-bills with so they have to invaid IRAQ and use its Oil as collateral for more foreign loans.

Ive been down this road years ago about gold. Trust me Randolph you must be a newbie because when you find out how the economy really works (and they dont print it in a book that you can buy) you will learn that >gold, sea shells, dirt,< it does not matter what you tie your monetary system to, its all the same just different numbers.

What matters is that you dont have jew parasites funneling your profits into their hands while riding the white mans back.
SN Sir,

I'm so glad more and more Folks are becoming aware of money/economic
systems that are not based on old YHVH's Desert Bandit's "gold and silver"
confidence game.

Money is nothing but a reciept for energy expended.

Yep, sea shells will do just fine. Pieces of wood with notches cut in them worked for hundreds of years in England. Known as 'tally sticks' they were.

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Old December 5th, 2003 #10
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There is certainly a difference between interest and usury. Interest is when you do fair business. Usury is when you use atrociously high rates to fleece people, bleed them dry.

I hear that when the Britons got Hong Kong, Chinese businessmen were glad to borrow money from them instead of from their own sources, which were all usurers who took something like thirty percent in interest.

The Chinese love money...at Chinese New Year, the children get envelopes of money; imagine handing your kids money on Christmas instead of presents. I wonder what would happen if the Jews were expelled to China? Finally they would meet their match!


As for gold ... interesting subject, I suppose, but why are American anti-staters so hung up on it? Don't forget that settling questions about money is to do dishes in the kitchen, while working for your race is to put out the fire raging in the livingroom.

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Old December 5th, 2003 #11
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Default I suppose the public fool system is to blame

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I wonder why Randolph, the libertarian white supremicist
economist doesn't know about this?


I suppose the public fool system is to blame.

The real cause of America's war for independence
was the same as the reason for WW2.

The Colonies issued Colonial Script and the National Socialists
issued Reichmarks: Neither backed by gold and/or silver.

And both were so beneficial to both economies that
everyday Folk prospered wildly!


That was more than the Jew Bankers could stand!

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THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION (1764 - 1781)

By the mid 1700's Britain was at its height of power, but was also heavily in debt.

Since the creation of the Bank of England, they had suffered four costly wars and the total debt now stood at £140,000,000, (which in those days was a lot of money).

In order to make their interest payments to the bank, the British government set about a programme to try to raise revenues from their American colonies, largely through an extensive programme of taxation.

There was a shortage of material for minting coins in the colonies, so they began to print their own paper money, which they called Colonial Script. This provided a very successful means of exchange and also gave the colonies a sense of identity. Colonial Script was money provided to help the exchange of goods. It was debt free paper money not backed by gold or silver.

During a visit to Britain in 1763, The Bank of England asked Benjamin Franklin how he would account for the new found prosperity in the colonies. Franklin replied.

"That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers.

In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one."
Benjamin Franklin 1

America had learned that the people's confidence in the currency was all they needed, and they could be free of borrowing debts. That would mean being free of the Bank of England.

In Response the world's most powerful independent bank used its influence on the British parliament to press for the passing of the Currency Act of 1764.

This act made it illegal for the colonies to print their own money, and forced them to pay all future taxes to Britain in silver or gold.

Here is what Franklin said after that.

"In one year, the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed."
Benjamin Franklin

"The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the Revolutionary War."
Benjamin Franklin's autobiography

By the time the war began on 19th April 1775 much of the gold and silver had been taken by British taxation. They were left with no other choice but to print money to finance the war.

What is interesting here is that Colonial Script was actually working so well, it became a threat to the established economic system of the time.

The idea of issuing money as Franklin put it "in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry" and not charging any interest, was not causing any problems or inflation. This unfortunately was alien to the Bank of England which only issued money for the sake of making a profit for its shareholder's.


1. Congressman Charles G. Binderup of Nebraska, Unrobing the Ghosts of Wall Street
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Old December 5th, 2003 #12
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Instead of acting like children and call people names, lets begin at what is money?

What is money?

Money is that one commodity that is more marketable than all the others.

Can one create money based on labor? You sure can. But how marketable can it really be outside of one's local region?

Here is another question, if we base money on labor productivity, how would you measure it. I am sure someone on the forum would be able to answer that since they claim I am an idiot and do not know anything about money.

It is going to be fun to shread your comments to pieces. Come on No_Nomen, you are now dealing with someone who can see through your rants. I will not accept a cute retort and a long irrelevant article from a "respected source". Be a man and answer directly with your own words.

My question will only take a few words to answer. Again, "If an economy based its currency on labor productivity, how will it be measured and how can we be sure that government will not play nay games and rob us like the Fed?"

No copping out and calling me a name, either. It will only show who is the real fool. I will be back next week. You have plenty of time to come up with something good.

When I am through with you, I hope you get your head out of your ass and start reading on economics. I am damn sick and tired of fools like you, with no understanding of economic theory, fronting as some knowledgeable person on money.

Go ahead, I called your bluff. Show me what you really know. Answer my question.
 
Old December 5th, 2003 #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredrik Haerne
There is certainly a difference between interest and usury. Interest is when you do fair business. Usury is when you use atrociously high rates to fleece people, bleed them dry.

I hear that when the Britons got Hong Kong, Chinese businessmen were glad to borrow money from them instead of from their own sources, which were all usurers who took something like thirty percent in interest.

The Chinese love money...at Chinese New Year, the children get envelopes of money; imagine handing your kids money on Christmas instead of presents. I wonder what would happen if the Jews were expelled to China? Finally they would meet their match!


As for gold ... interesting subject, I suppose, but why are American anti-staters so hung up on it? Don't forget that settling questions about money is to do dishes in the kitchen, while working for your race is to put out the fire raging in the livingroom.

Bring back hard money is just a part of the overall program that need to be put in place to put out that fire in the living room.

Here is the future of economics:
http://www.mises.org/default.asp


It is also very compatible with the 14 words.
 
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Quote:
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Bring back hard money is just a part of the overall program that
need to be put in place to put out that fire in the living room.

***LOL***

There was a shortage of material for minting coins in the colonies, so they began to print their own paper money, which they called Colonial Script. This provided a very successful means of exchange and also gave the colonies a sense of identity. Colonial Script was money provided to help the exchange of goods. It was debt free paper money not backed by gold or silver.

During a visit to Britain in 1763, The Bank of England asked Benjamin Franklin how he would account for the new found prosperity in the colonies. Franklin replied.

"That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers.

In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one."
Benjamin Franklin 1

America had learned that the people's confidence in the currency was all they needed, and they could be free of borrowing debts. That would mean being free of the Bank of England. (Federal Reserve Private Bank)
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1. Congressman Charles G. Binderup of Nebraska, Unrobing the Ghosts of Wall Street

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Old December 6th, 2003 #15
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Is a tool. It can cut you, burn you or feed you. Use it wisely and keep the jews away form your money.
 
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