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Old December 4th, 2011 #1
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Default Caucasians are not always White - The case of Bhagad Singh

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Not All Caucasians Are White: The Supreme Court Rejects Citizenship for Indians

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United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind, 261 U.S. 204 (1923), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court decided that Bhagat Singh Thind, who was a high caste Punjabi, settled in Oregon, could not be a naturalized citizen of the United States, despite the fact that a proportion of anthropologists had defined a proportion of people in India as part of the Caucasian race.

In its decision in the case of U.S. v. Bhagat Singh Thind (1923), the Supreme Court deemed Indians ineligible for citizenship because U.S. law allowed only free whites to become naturalized citizens. The court conceded that Indians were "Caucasians" and that anthropologists considered them to be of the same race as white Americans, but argued that "the average man knows perfectly well that there are unmistakable and profound differences."

The Thind decision also led to successful efforts to denaturalize some who had previously become citizens. This represented a particular threat in California, where a 1913 law prohibited aliens ineligible for citizenship from owning or leasing land.

Only in 1946 did Congress, which was beginning to recognize that India would soon be independent and a major world power, pass a new law that allowed Indians to become citizens and also established a small immigration quota.
 
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Caucasians are from Europe, North Africa, the Middle East and parts of Central Asia (questionably it can be further east), but only Europeans are white. Basically, whites are a sub-group of Caucasians.
 
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Caucasians are from Europe, North Africa, the Middle East and parts of Central Asia (questionably it can be further east), but only Europeans are white. Basically, whites are a sub-group of Caucasians.
White is a socio-biological term. Biological as well as Social. I mean its obvious that white people are different than black people but within caucasians species the border is fluent. There are pale skinned and lighter featured caucasians in other parts of the world not only in Europe but they are still not "white" because there the social component comes into. Also excluding Jews and on SF Albanians is social. They say jews are genetically different but from what i know about jews genetics they maybe distinct from a englishman like a italian is distinct from a englishman but they are genetically in the middle of europe as well as phenotypically. I believe the original Jews were always White, in the Bible there are lots of Red Haired Jews, King David, Judas and with ruddy complexion. Albanians are Europeans and Indo-Europeans. So excluding Jews is socio-historical. White is defined as european and it has a strong biological basis but not only, its also social.

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yeah i agree with this .... Caucasian are not always white, they can vary from rossy white skin tone to light brown or may be dark brown skin tone. its just include those folks whose facial and cranial measurements equal to European folks.
 
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It's possible to keep it simple: the only whites WN's should be concerned with are those who originated in Europe (including Russia). Outside of these boundaries there are other Caucasoids - but they are not white, either in physical appearance or in a socio-cultural sense. Forget them.

Ward Kendall said it best in his novel
Hold Back This Day Hold Back This Day
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Another interesting WN novel, that believes "some Jews" may be acceptable in a WN nation. It's worth a
read: read:
 
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In ancient India, there were populations of White people. Not this shit skin Caucasian that is what Indians are today. They went extinct mostly for the same reason the rest of the White world is going extinct today, miscegenation.
 
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In ancient India, there were populations of White people. Not this shit skin Caucasian that is what Indians are today. They went extinct mostly for the same reason the rest of the White world is going extinct today, miscegenation.
Whites once occupied a much greater territory than they do today, one that encompassed what was ancient Scythia, Cimmeria, Aria (Iran), and as far east as the Tarim Basin of Western China; but all of these areas were later invaded by non-whites and the present day inhabitants are descended from miscegenated ancestors.

The blue-eyed, fair-haired Nuristani people who still live in Afghanistan are an example of a tribe descended from the ancient Aryans who have largely resisted miscegenation:







 
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