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Second of all, I have no use for smokers... like one poster said, there's a mentality there that pervades other thoughts and actions in life, and someone who can't control their appetite for what is palpably harmful to them and others around them means they have no respect for their own bodies, hence no respect for just about anything. Third of all, I have no use for virulent anti-semites, because that's just a 180 degree version of the same mentality that said anti-semite feels justified in hating, and both rabid Zionists and virulent anti-semites are pretty much cut from the same cloth. I prefer a thinking man with sound logic and a sense of justice, so that he respects right and wrong and fears God first and foremost. I'm not going to embrace a guy like Michael Moore merely because he's white, nor will I disparage a man like Bill Cosby if what he's saying and doing is correct and just. I likewise have no use for politicians, no matter how high level. They are agents of this system of things, a system that is corrupt to the core and an affront to God. |
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Yeah, I figured you for a nigger lover!
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Being insulted by the likes of you...
An insult from someone of your caliber is a mark of honor, as far as I'm concerned.
You talk about TNB and TJB and then you yourself indulge in it, Monsieur Hypocrite? Avaunt, thou impious fool... you just gained the IGNORE list... any true Aryan community with hope for the future doesn't need your kind. |
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Nice try, but...
I didn't say I cared for Bill Cosby's personal habits, I said (as an example in the discussion about the racial loyalty issue, which followed the smoking issue... do try to keep up, there's a good fellow) that I wouldn't disparage a man LIKE Bill Cosby, who is not of my race, nor side with a race traitor like Michael Moore, simply because he's white...
I chose the name of Cosby as an example because he is well-noted for his no-nonsense approach to the problems of the black community by telling them the truth about themselves, whether they want to hear it or not, and placing the blame for their problems squarely on their own behavior, and not on 'whitey'. And if you really want to get technical, when people talk about smokers, they're more concerned with the cigarette smokers who go through a pack or more a day, and light up everywhere and anywhere they can... cigar smoking is a whole different can of worms, but at least it's usually done in a 'gentlemen' club type atmosphere after a dinner or amongst a gathering of men in social settings, and not a constant all through the day annoyance amongst the general public. |
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So tell us, O pompus one, when was the last time, in this day and age, that you were so discomfited by suffering the immediate presence of a smoker?
(And don't tell me the guy next to you at a stop light.)
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It is a proven fact that smoking dramatically reduces the chances to have :
- Parkinson's - Crohn's - Alzheimer's And ulcers, too I'm too lazy to dig it up, do it.
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It actually INCREASES the likelihood of Alzheimers (not forgetting all the other heinous heart and lung diseases already accounted for by the research on the subject which, when contracted, would make the subject WISH for Alzheimers, even if your claim were true... which it palpably is NOT!). Bogus claims: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/720903.stm Doubles the risk: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/115829.stm Impairs intelligence: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/718160.stm Leads to premature aging (as if we didn't already know!): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/710447.stm As far as Parkinsons, well, let me quote the doctors from the studies themselves: Quote:
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1. you have no use for smokers because they have no respect for themselves and therefore no respect for anything else 2. you respect the opinions of bill cosby because he is honest 3. you give him a pass on smoking because he is honest If a white nationalist was noted for his no nonsense approach to problems facing the white race, but smoked would he be as respectable as cosby? or as useless as other smokers? Quote:
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Those smokers who AT LEAST have the courtesy to smoke in places where they will not bother non-smokers do have a slight edge in the behavioral sweepstakes... but they're still doing something for which the downside is SO steep that it still merits disdain and one has to suspect their mentality, like an earlier poster so wisely observed. Quote:
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I'm actually not arguing with you, I'm asking you to clarify your position, and I have yet to state mine.
When you say have no use for, the implication is that these people are useless, I was asking for clarification as to how useless they are. You then say you could admire them but wouldnt associate with them. I can understand this position. Quote:
Yet cigars pose the same health risks, especially to former cigarette smokers who will inhale cigar smoke. Other than the fact that they are less common how are cigars any less of a problem than cigarettes? |
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Cigars smell a whole hell of a lot better than the noxious fumes that cigarettes emit.
I could live in a cigar shop, but my eyes water and my throat gets sore when having to spend 5 minutes in a smoking suite at a hotel. |
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But again, the true issue here is there's no point in turning the original thread into a cigar-vs-cigarettes debate... totally immaterial to the point of the original thread, where the deleterious effects of second-hand smoke were claimed to be unproven. I'm not campaigning pro-cigar... I recommend people eschew all forms of tobacco... but if I HAD to make a case for, just for the sake of debate, then (at fear of belaboring the obvious)... Less common = less problems it may cause to the users and surrounding non-users (with commensurate benefits in alleviating the current burdens caused to the national health care systems and insurances)... that's the major factor. If you wish to pursue further the "other than that" angle, well, it's obvious... most cigar smokers don't inhale, most only smoke one or two a day, most only smoke after dinner or amongst other male associates in 'club' settings, e.g., poker games, sports events, brandy-after-dinner gentlemen clubs, etc., etc. (and please note the use of the term 'most', which <> 'all'). And as Jett so wisely observed, cigars are, in fact, far more redolent during the act, if one must be caught in the environs of a smoker... although the aftermath in the clothing and hair is equally offensive. This is about all I really care to discuss on the topic of cigars... which has already carried on far longer than it ought to have. |
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As for your herpes comparison, it’s more like saying being struck by lightning is ok because car crashes are more common. Both are not good. |
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If you infer things that are not there, or otherwise misinterpret and then choose to bandy about even more words in picayune observations about cigars versus cigarettes, I can't help that... a tedious reality of internet threads, I suppose. Quote:
The correct answer would be, since car crashes are far more common than getting struck by lightning, I'd pick taking my chances with the latter... assuming, for the sake of debate, those were the sole choices. As far as BOTH being bad, well... DUH, and thank you, Captain Obvious. For the sake of friendliness and "getting acquainted" I deigned to extend the conversation... but forewarned, in the future I will not be so liberal with my time on Philistine "let's see if we can trip him up" Q&A. |
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