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Forget that 450. Khalid Mahmood says it could be 2000 or more.
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New pictures: "normal" Arab teen with British passport who became Isis jihadi
New pictures emerge showing the happy teenager who, only around a year later, would become a militant Islamic extremist. Please wait while this video loads. If it doesn't load after a few seconds you may need to have Adobe Flash installed. The images, uncovered by Channel 4 News, show an apparently happy Aseel Muthana, whose older brother appeared in a propaganda video released by Isis, on a day out paintballing with friends. It is thought he was with friends from a mainstream Islamic society, which is not thought to have any links to extremism. They emerge as an imam, who knew Aseel as an adolescent, describes the changes he and his brother Nasser went through as they transformed from "normal" teenagers to Islamist extremists. Sheikh Zane Abdo, imam of the South Wales Islamic Centre, said Nasser Muthana, now 20, and his 17-year-old brother Aseel were "very well-spoken, very sincere", but went through a strange period in their lives. He said the brothers "liked watching movies, did a lot of school" like normal teenagers. There was "nothing that suggested that they were going to go down the route that they went down", he said. "However, they went through a very strange period when they said they were becoming quite serious in their faith and then began to start to expressing certain views that were quite political, particularly the older brother," he added. "Neither of them in the past year and a half to two years frequented this mosque or attended any of the sermons or any of my classes that I have been giving for the past three and a half years," said Sheikh Abdo. 'Brainwashed' Nasser Muthana and Reyaad Khan, 20, have been identified as two of the three British men in the Isis recruitment video, while the identity of the other remains unknown. Aseel Muthana is also believed to have travelled to Syria without his parents' knowledge. A fourth man appeared in the video, reported to be an Australian who has since been killed. But a local community leader and friend of Khan's family said the young men could still be reintegrated if they returned home. Mohammed Sarul Islam told the Guardian newspaper: "This is a close-knit community that will be able to work together and bring them back to the good side from the bad side. I believe that can happen." Reyaad Khan, 20, was said to have once dreamed of becoming Britain's first Asian prime minister. Nasser Muthana once planned to go to medical school, it has been reported. They are believed to be fighting with Isis, which has been involved in the war in Syria and has recently taken large swathes of neighbouring Iraq. Their families expressed their anguish after learning that their sons had travelled to join Isis. Khan's mother, who has not been identified, appealed to her only son to come home. She also said the young men had been "brainwashed". "He is honest, always caring for his family, he always wanted to be there for them. He was one of the best boys a mother could ever want," she said. "I think they are brainwashed into thinking they are going to help people. I don't know who it is but there is someone behind them, keeping these young, innocent boys, brainwashing them into thinking they are going to help people. There is someone behind them, I don't know who," she told Sky News. It has emerged that Reyaad Khan grew up close to Abdul Miah, who was jailed along with eight other men in 2012 over a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange. Ahmed Muthana, father of Nasser and Aseel, also spoke of his devastation after seeing Nasser on the video. 'Betrayed' The 57-year-old retired electrical engineer told the Guardian newspaper that he felt his son had betrayed his country. "This is my country. I came here aged 13 from Aden when I was orphaned. It is his country. He was born here in the hospital down the road. He has been educated here. He has betrayed Great Britain," said Ahmed Muthana. He said that he felt as if a bomb had hit his Cardiff home when he saw the video featuring his son. "I was shocked, I was sad, I cried. My wife collapsed, it feels as if the ground under my feet has disappeared," he said. They went through a very strange period when they said they were becoming quite serious in their faith and then began to start to expressing certain views.Sheikh Zane Abdo, imam At the al-Manar centre, where the Muthana brothers and Khan were thought to have worshipped, trustee Barak Albayaty said: "Nasser Muthana was just like any other guy. I was shocked to see him in the video." Speaking to the Guardian, he said: "But I am sure coming here is not the source of radicalism. We're against going to Syria for the armed struggle and have spelt this out on many occasions. The boys are affected by the internet. It's not just Cardiff, it's all over the UK." Sheikh Abdul warned that the widespread publicity given to the Isis propaganda video in which the older Muthana brother was featured would encourage other "susceptible" young men to travel to Syria to fight. He said a "platform" should not have been given to the recruitment video, which also features another Cardiff man Reyaad Khan, who went to school with Nasser Mathana. "I guarantee that many young people who are very susceptible to this type of message will have watched that video and maybe have been encouraged to now go and follow in the footsteps of Nasser and his brother, which is a real problem, the fact that a platform has been given to this video that really shouldn't have been given," Sheikh Abdo told BBC Breakfast. Security services estimate that around 500 British Muslims have travelled abroad to fight - most to Syria. They say around 300 have already returned to Britain. His fears were echoed by Sir Peter Fahy, Greater Manchester Chief Constable and lead on the Prevent counter-terrorism strategy for the Association of Chief Police Officers. He said that the police simply do not know for sure how many British jihadis have travelled abroad. Please wait while this ----- snip ----- read full article at source: http://www.channel4.com/news/the-nor...became-jihadis |
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Al CIAda merges with Is ISIS Al Qaeda's offshoot on Wednesday made an oath of loyalty to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) at a key town on the Iraqi border, a monitor said. The Syrian (shouldn't that be Coventry?) Observatory for Human Rights (expert bloke watching talmudvision in Coventry semi) said the merger is significant because it opens the way for ISIL to take control of both sides of the border at Albu Kamal in Syria and Al-Qaim in Iraq, where the fighters group has led a major offensive this month. http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/al...own-ngo-547654 Last edited by Dawn Cannon; June 25th, 2014 at 05:20 AM. |
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How to turn the threat of homecoming jihadist fighters into a career
Astonishing, isn't it? Bring millions of greedy aliens into places they have no right to be, breed them in uncountable numbers until they are a plague upon the very earth itself, and then turn them into lucrative "industries" of "research" and security.
Here major opinion former The New Scientist, describes some of the careers that have been forged as a result. Research has shed enough light on jihadist fighters and radicalisation to help us mitigate the ISIS threat, argues security expert Peter Neumann A week after taking Iraq's second city, Mosul, insurgent group the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) published a slick 12 minute video. Its protagonists were a group of British and Australian Muslims sitting in front of a black flag while talking about the virtues of jihad and martyrdom, and urging their "brothers back home" to join them. According to UK prime minister David Cameron, these young men are the next generation of terrorists who might attack shopping centres and blow up London buses after returning. They are, in his words, "the most serious threat to Britain's security that there is today". But how significant is the risk? And what should be done about it? The idea of volunteers fighting in foreign conflicts isn't new. Based on numbers alone, Cameron is right about the scale of the threat. The Syrian conflict has mobilised more foreign fighters than any since Afghanistan in the 1980s – possibly even longer. Up to 20,000 young Muslims – including a young Saudi named Osama bin Laden – went to Afghanistan over the course of a decade, compared to an estimated 12,000 that have gone to Syria in the past three years. A quarter of the foreign fighters in Syria are Western, and although Britain is not the biggest contributor (Belgium and Scandinavian countries are), it accounts for around 500 over those over the three years. Twitter interviews These numbers are the result of research by me and colleagues at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation over the past 18 months. In addition to fieldwork in Turkish border towns, from where the vast majority of foreign fighters enter Syria, we have compiled the social media profiles of nearly 400 Western fighters in Syria and Iraq using the software platform Palantir. Despite being involved in a war, they are still updating Facebook and Twitter, and this has enabled us to interview – and stay in touch with – dozens of them. From these conversations, we know that the vast majority of British foreign fighters – maybe 80 per cent – have joined ISIS, the most fanatical of the Syrian rebel groups, which has declared an Islamic state and taken over large parts of north-western Iraq. But we also know that they are too busy fighting hostile rebel groups as well as the troops of Syrian president Bashar Assad and those of the Iraqi government to be seriously thinking about blowing up buses in London. But what about when they come home? The most rigorous piece of social science research on what happens to such veterans when they return looked at people from conflicts in Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya and other jihadist battlefronts. It found that only one in nine of the 945 Western foreign fighters in the sample "returned [to their home countries] to perpetrate attacks in the West" and concluded that "far from all foreign fighters are domestic fighters in the making". Greater influence It also points out, however, that the one in nine who become terrorists are likely to be more effective, competent and influential than "home-grown" extremists who haven't had the same opportunities to acquire military training, bomb-making skills and fighting experience. According to the study's author, Norwegian political scientist Thomas Hegghammer, terrorist plots with foreign fighter involvement are nearly twice as deadly as those without. There can be no doubt, therefore, that jihadist foreign fighters – in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere – pose a risk that the government and its security agencies are right to focus on. Yet it is one that I believe can be managed and mitigated. It makes no sense, in my view, to hand out long prison sentences to every returnee when the evidence suggests that a majority will pose no risk – yet that's what the government is proposing. If just one in nine will become terrorists at home, the government's priority should be to develop assessment tools, rooted in the psychology of terrorism and suicide attacks, that help to distinguish between people who are "dangerous", "disturbed", "disillusioned" and "harmless" and develop appropriate interventions for each. Channel the knowledge Conveniently, these tools already exist. They are part of the government's so-called Channel programme, which directs when interventions are necessary for individuals deemed to be on the brink of violence. Recalibrating this programme to deal with foreign fighters is likely to be more effective – and certainly less expensive – than locking up hundreds of returnees for 20 years or more. Remember that detention without attempts to combat extremist ideology can result in hardened attitudes and a return to jihadist conflicts – for example in the US after the Afghan conflict. Much more effort also needs to go into messaging. We could deter participation in Jihadist conflict by telling would-be foreign fighters that Syrians don't want them there, and that ISIS will use them as cannon fodder; only one British foreign fighter in Syria has been killed fighting Assad, while 15 or so have lost their lives fighting other rebels. If foreign fighters really are "the most serious threat that there is today", the government needs to bring together community leaders and make sure that those messages are heard by every young Muslim across the country. Punitive measures have their place, of course. But they should be reserved for those who have become hardened jihadists determined to take the fight home. Success in recognising who poses a threat and who doesn't will determine how much of a threat the foreign fighters actually are. PROFILE Peter R. Neumann is professor of security studies at King's College London, and directs the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR) http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.U6wg0PldWa_
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ISIS Planning to Bring Jihad to Europe
Contributing Author Screenshot from video published on syriantube.net A group of jihadists claiming to be part of ISIS has vowed to invade Spain along with all other “occupied lands” in a video posted on the web. The men say Spain is the land of their forefathers and that they are prepared to die for their nascent Islamic State. The video of two men claiming to be militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) has taken the Spanish media by storm. The minute-long footage shows them speaking in Spanish, and saying that ISIS will take over Spain. “I tell you, Spain is the land of our forefathers, and, Allah willing, we are going to liberate it, with the might of Allah,”says one of the men. He adds that the group won’t stop at Spain and intends to spread its Islamic Caliphate across the world. “I say to the entire world as a warning: We are living under the Islamic banner, the Islamic Caliphate. We are going to die for it until we liberate all the occupied lands, from Jakarta to Andalusia,” he said. The footage has not yet been independently verified, but it would not be the first video released by the group. Last month, ISIS released a propaganda video entitled: “There Is No Life Without Jihad” in which Australian and British members of the group appealed in English for Muslims across the world to join their cause. “We have brothers from Bangladesh, from Iraq, from Cambodia, Australia and the UK,” says a militant called Abu Muthanna al-Yemeni, who himself comes from Britain, according to a video caption. The extremist Sunni Muslim group began to seize control of towns and cities in Iraq at the beginning of June. Since then it has captured large swathes of the region, straddling the Iraqi-Syrian border and continues to advance on the Iraqi capital, Baghdad. The leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, announced the creation of an Islamic State, or caliphate, encompassing the lands that the group has taken under its control. He also called on Muslims throughout the world to join the cause and fight for ISIS. “Muslims everywhere, whoever is capable of performing Hijrah (emigration) to the Islamic State, then let him do so, because Hijrah to the land of Islam is obligatory,” he added. So far Iraqi security forces have done little to slow the advance of the Islamist group, with the government appealing for aid from abroad to repel the onslaught. The US has sent 300 military advisors to Iraq to combat the threat and is deploying another 300 troops, helicopters and drones in the area. Saudi Arabia has also deployed 30,000 troops along its border with Iraq, while Russia has sent fighter jets and pilots to support the Baghdad government against ISIS. Contributed by Contributing Author of RT. Please share: Spread the word to sheeple far and wide read full article at source: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/isis-...-europe_072014 |
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Schoolgirls Who Ran Away to be Jihadi Brides were Star Pupils
DailyStormer.com Twin British schoolgirls who ran away to Syria were star pupils, with 28 GCSEs between them. Salma and Zahra Halane were among the top 20 students at their girls’ school in Manchester but slipped out of their bedrooms and have fled abroad to become ‘jihadi brides’. The 16-year-olds, who disappeared two weeks ago, have telephoned their parents to tell them they have reached the war-torn country and warned them ‘we’re not coming back’. Their mother told the Daily Mail last night: ‘I’m just so shocked.’ The 44-year-old, who wears a hijab, then broke down in tears at her semi-detached home in a leafy suburb of Chorlton, Manchester. Police said today that the twins ‘potentially pose a threat to themselves and the community’. The sisters may have followed their brother, who is thought to have flown out to fight with terror group ISIS last year. Salma achieved 13 GCSEs, 11 of which were A*-C, while Zahra achieved 15 passes, 12 of which were A*-C grades – placing the girls within the top 10 per cent of their year group of 200 students. The girls’ parents raised the alarm two weeks ago, after entering the twins’ room one morning to find their beds empty and passports and clothes missing. The girls boarded a flight to Turkey from Manchester airport, and police alerted counter-terrorism colleagues in an attempt to trace the pair. However, the twins – who have nine siblings, one of whom is a medical student – later contacted their parents to inform them they had crossed the border and reached war-torn Syria. Officers are investigating how the girls funded their trip, over fears they may have been bankrolled by jihadi fighters who want them as their wives. The North West Counter Terrorism Unit head Detective Chief Superintendent Tony Mole, said: ‘First, I want to stress that the welfare of these two teenagers is our overarching priority. ‘Two 16-year-old girls left the UK on June 26 and we believe that they have since entered Syria. ‘At this stage we don’t know for sure why they are there, or exactly who they are with. ‘They are clearly posing a threat to themselves and potentially the community and their family and friends are concerned for their well-being. ‘It is also important that we thank the community for their assistance in this matter while reminding them and the wider media that the family remain very concerned for the safety of their daughters’. The twins’ elder brother is already known to police in Greater Manchester, and is known to be abroad. Counter-terrorism officers plan to question him if he attempts to return to Britain. The Halane family, originally from Somalia, have told friends and community leaders they are ‘absolutely devastated.’ Mohammed Shafiq, of the Ramadan Foundation, said: ‘The family is shocked and absolutely devastated, especially their mother. ‘Their son went to fight for ISIS about a year ago and has been over there since then. They believe he was radicalised over the internet. read full article at source: http://www.dailystormer.com/uk-schoo...e-star-pupils/ |
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Heads on sticks: Sick ISIS video emerges showing 50 beheaded Syrian soldiers being impaled on poles and held aloft in Raqqa city
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...aqqa-city.html Heads on sticks: Sick ISIS video emerges showing 50 beheaded Syrian soldiers being impaled on poles and held aloft in Raqqa city
WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT Islamic State fighters, formerly called ISIS, have attacked base for two days Ambush in Raqqa, northern Syria, ended in more than 50 executions Amateur video footage circulating online shows dozens of headless bodies Syrian conflict has reportedly killed 170,000 and 3 million have fled country By Dan Bloom and Afp Reporter |
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VIDEO: London Tunnel Blockaded by ISIS Flag-Waving Jihadi Protesters
A group of activists have been captured on camera waving Palestinian and ISIS flags while blocking one of the largest tunnels in the UK. The protesters chanted "Free Palestine" and honked their car horns as they blocked the Blackwall Tunnel. The move will seem like an odd gesture coming at a time when the Israeli Defence Force says it will not reduce pressure on Hamas until they agree to close the network of terror tunnels they have built. The Blackwall Tunnel connects the Muslim-dominated borough of Tower Hamlets in East London, with Greenwich south of the River Thames. It was closed by a number of cars when activists got out of their vehicles and began chanting "free, free, Palestine". Some of them also appeared to have spray painted their cars, while others waved the jihadist ISIS flag. The protest is one of a series of dubious events staged to support Gaza, that seem to do nothing other than bolster the egos of those involved. It comes after Breitbart Londonreported on the 'crass' super-car protest, in which members of the super-rich drove their Lamborghinis past Harrods to show their "support" for Palestine. That protest led to questions about why the vehicle owners were not doing anything to help the humanitarian effort by selling their cars and donating money for schools or hospitals in Gaza. The video of the tunnel protest originally appeared on the internet a few days ago with the following comment: "Loads of people got out there car [sic] and started shouting free Palestine holding up traffic. "These people have no regard for anyone wanting to get to work or even emergency services trying to treat someone or arrest someone." It was later posted on YouTube. Whilst the protest itself might seem laughable, it does show a worrying trend. Pro-Palestinian groups have displayed a remarkable ability to outnumber and out campaign those supportive of Israel. The protests in London against Operation Protective Edge have numbered tens of thousands, whereas the pro-Israelis only numbered around 1,500 at their protest. To make matters worse, the pro-Palestinians are willing to get violent to make their point, with one man injured at the last Zionist rally. Pro-Palestinian groups claim they are not anti-Semitic and do not support Hamas itself. But at their most recent protest, our correspondents were able to record protesters openly chanting for Hamas. read full article at source: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-L...pport-Of-Hamas |
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Students Handing Out ISIS Recruitment Leaflets in London
Daily Stormer August 14, 2014 The Islamic conquest of Britain continues apace, not content with just planting their Jihad flags everywhere, the Muslims are now openly recruiting people off the street to join their band of cut-throat murderers out in Iraq. Although they don’t mention the Islamic State directly, the leaflets call people to get behind the ‘khaleef’ – the self-appointed leader of the group Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi A group of students is being investigated by police after they handed out leaflets apparently encouraging British Muslims to join the Islamic State. The leaflets were handed out on Oxford Street in London’s West End by former students of Omar Bakri, a banned cleric, an hate preacher Anjem Choudary. Metropolitan Police today confirmed that they were reviewing the leaflets, which called Muslims to pledge allegiance to the ‘khaleef’, to see if any anti-terror laws had been broken. The khaleef is a reference to the Islamic State’s – formerly known as ISIS – self-appointed leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The group is currently behind a brutal campaign that has led to fears of a genocide of Christians in northern Iraq. Shoppers reacted angrily to the group with one British Muslim claiming she had been racially abused when she challenged the group, according to the Evening Standard. Isis is not directly referenced in the leaflet, nor is al-Baghdadi, but it is believed to be a thinly veiled reference to both. The leaflet, which was posted on Twitter, says: “After many attempts and great sacrifices from the Ummah of Islam throughout the world, the Muslims with the help of Allah have announced the re-establishment of the Khaliafah and appointed an Imam as a Khaleef (Muslim leader).” Ghaffar Hussain, managing director at the Quilliam Foundation said the people handing out the leaflets were associated with the al-Muhajiroun extremist network and they were from Luton. Hopefully, they will all go and never return. More likely, however, they will go and then return to murder people in Britain with their acquired skills. But such is the cost of being enriched: being murdered. read full article at source: http://www.dailystormer.com/students...ets-in-london/ |
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But such is the cost of being enriched: being murdered." they should start with everybody's favorite in-breds the "royal" family.
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The followers of the kiddie fiddler, morehamhead, are a volatile bunch. How hard would it be to get them fighting amongst themselves in Britain? A couple of false flag nigger beheadings and the odd atrocity at a mosque...BOOM...Birmingham is a war zone. Just a thought
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