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Old December 6th, 2010 #81
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If it'z all natural, then so is the "natural" copulation of human beings within close proximity to one another. Put a nigger and a white woman in a room, they'll copulate if the right "natural" sexual "chemistry" exists, i.e., big muscles, tallness, masculinity, big boobies. Similarly with a white man and a "feminine" Asian woman. But as this thread suggests, it'z all good.

Without any god everything is pointless.

Just because everyone here can't stop beating off every 15 minutes, I'm supposed to believe that our present loveless sexual economy is "natural." Apologists abound, even on VNN.
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I cannot agree with that.
If you look at human history, including white European pre-Christian history, prostitution and what could be called the pornography of its era (such as was possible with the technology of the time) flourished.
The problem is the twisted guilt-ridden view of sex created by 1,300 years of being told to love Jebus at the point of a sword, which has been exploited by the Jew.
Banning pornography would be about as stupid and counter productive as prohibition was. Do not ban it, take control of it and use it to send a better message.
Americans, in particular, are infected with a mentality that looks upon sex as somehow wrong and/or dirty.
Sex is good. Sex is vital to the continuation of the white race. White people should be encouraged to have a lot more sex, but in the right way and in a constructive context (ie as a husband and wife, in loving relationships and for the creation of families).
I would like to see the current Jewish pornography replaced with what I call white erotica, which can perform the function of 'turning on' people who require that sort of stimulation, but through the use of material that portrays healthy natural sex, rather than the sick perversions of Jewish porn.
It is the principle of monkey see, monkey do.
Prostitution has always been around and will always be around. Only someone who was utterly ignorant of history and human nature would attempt to ban it.
Banning prostitution would also be about as stupid and counter productive as prohibition was.
Prostitution exists because there is a demand for it, on both sides of the transaction.
Climb off the moralistic high horse that has been shoved up the ass of the lovers of Jebus and come to terms with the reality that it is human nature. Anyone who fights against any part of the natural order is going to lose.
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Old December 6th, 2010 #83
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If it'z all natural, then so is the "natural" copulation of human beings within close proximity to one another. Put a nigger and a white woman in a room, they'll copulate if the right "natural" sexual "chemistry" exists, i.e., big muscles, tallness, masculinity, big boobies. Similarly with a white man and a "feminine" Asian woman. But as this thread suggests, it'z all good.

Without any god everything is pointless.

Just because everyone here can't stop beating off every 15 minutes, I'm supposed to believe that our present loveless sexual economy is "natural." Apologists abound, even on VNN.
You are being obtuse in an attempt to make an infantile argument.
Sexual relations outside of one's own race is not natural. Sex outside of one's own species is an unnatural act.
Inter-racial sex is as unnatural as sex with a dog, or any other primate species.
As for 'without any god everything is pointless', I suppose that might depend upon which god or gods are the subject of your statement.
I am an Odinist. Our view of sex is a polar opposite to that of Christlings and their sex-hating misygonist Jewish god.
 
Old December 6th, 2010 #84
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Posting on the internet is a time waster. This conversation, and others like it, have been discussed to death, and the same points continue to be made, ultimately getting us nowhere. You know this Linder. Surely, you tire of all of this endless chatter that ultimately produces nothing constructive.


I decided against saying what I wanted to say about women and VNN, because really, I'm bored with it. Yes, VNN males can come off as hostile to females, for whatever the reason. Yes, I do think that females soon tire of it, and leave from time to time. Some return, as I have, and some have not, possibly never to return.

No, I do not think that women get "their feelings hurt" because they are accustomed to being treated as if they are made of glass. Rather, I think that discourse on the internet, for the most part, is vulgar and crude, i.e., non White in nature. Few of us would speak to each other in real life as many have spoken to me (for instance) over the past few years. I have literally been called every disgusting name in the book by males here who don't even have enough courage to reveal their true identities. They've done it to others too.

The way I deal with the internet now is that I no longer have it in my home. Instead, I come every few days or so to the library, and post a little and then leave. That way, whatever is said by others, good or bad, is allowed to "sit", unseen by me, until I return, and I can respond without emotion or hysteria. It's the internet, for gosh' sake. No one here really knows me, so nothing they say can really affect me in real life, unless I choose to allow it to.

I think if more people took cooling off periods and waited to post, it would be better for discourse here. There's too much high drama here, but not nearly as much as there was a few years ago. But that was Linder's fault. He allowed this website to sink down into the toilet, and good people left as a result.

Linder finally cleaned up this website by instituting the 'tard corral, but it came a little late in my book. There ought to be only one place where people can make catty personal comments, and that should be in the 'tard corral. Anywhere else and they get 'tarded for at least six months or so. That would get rid of the Mike Todds, for example.

I have a lot more to say about males and females, but it is a topic far too serious and deep for an internet discussion. People get tired of reading, and for good reason.

My point again is that we have allowed the internet to take the place of what we should be doing in real life and the White race is losing more and more ground in this country. We may never get it back unless we do something pretty soon.

We have some smart people here, and our brains are being wasted. I'm a female, but I have a really good brain for strategy and planning. But it doesn't need to be discussed on the internet--not yet anyway. We need to meet in person, discuss strategy and figure out what we can be doing right now to get White people awakened to their future in this country.

I understand that there is safety in anonymity. I, too, don't want to risk losing my somewhat comfortable life now--at least I have jobs and my home--but I also don't want to be alive in twenty years and look back and wonder what difference it would have made if some of us had had the courage to speak out.

Linder, why can't we get something going in the way of a meeting sometime soon to see what could be done. People would take your lead. I have tried to do something, with no such luck.

I tell you one of my worst fears right now, among many fears, is that Sarah Palin is going to run for President and Whites will actually vote for her. This woman has got to be one of the stupidest creatures ever put out there for public consumption. And we have that other idiot, John McCain, to thank for that.

White people only have a few choices out there right now, and they are all pathetic and wrong headed. But, the choices out there now are all they have, and so they think they must choose something.

Why? Because Whites are desperate. Look at the news every day. Even Whites are doing things they really have never done before. They know something is very wrong, but they are afraid to say what they really know to be true. I know this because I talk to Whites about just this all the time. I say the word "race" and they nod their heads in agreement.

The time to act is now people. We have discussed every topic to death and back. It is time to network in person and start to strategize.
 
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My experience is this: I started dating my former wife when I was 18 and she was 16. I played in a heavy metal band and we played a show in the small town that she was living in. I met her and fell in love immediately.

Now, she knew exactly what my beliefs were in the beginning, and I didn't think that she was capable of using them against me; ever!

Wrong...when she left me, after seven years, and after I had derailed my college career to become a prison guard, in order to support my family (in a maximum security joint, at the age of 20 for god's sake), she broke out the racist card in court. Believe me when I say that I never, ever expected that.

So, to make a long story short, I watched as everything that I had worked for, taken responsibility for, was stolen from me by the courts, whom you could hear gasping in horror every time she uttered the words "racist."

So yes, the Stormfraud model of women-worshiping is totally wrong. Yes, I am bitter for losing everything I worked for (due to a woman). But! It is definitely not without purpose. So no, VNN is the best White site on the interwebz, but there's a reason that there is so much hatred of women here...I'm guessing that a lot of it comes from personal experience (contrary to popular Hebrew belief, a lot of us had had relationships with women).
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Old December 6th, 2010 #86
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Now, she knew exactly what my beliefs were in the beginning, and I didn't think that she was capable of using them against me; ever!


So, to make a long story short, I watched as everything that I had worked for, taken responsibility for, was stolen from me by the courts, whom you could hear gasping in horror every time she uttered the words "racist."
Good post. This is another issue I think about that can be especially scary. I can imagine myself sitting in a divorce court with the audience and jury looking at me like I am some kind of animal that needs to become extinct -- or a racially-aware European-descended male as you will. And of course the once-trustworthy female companion who decided it was time for a gracious exit.
 
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Good post. This is another issue I think about that can be especially scary. I can imagine myself sitting in a divorce court with the audience and jury looking at me like I am some kind of animal that needs to become extinct -- or a racially-aware European-descended male as you will. And of course the once-trustworthy female companion who decided it was time for a gracious exit.
There are few creatures that can match the vicious vindictive hypocritical nasty streak that runs down the back of most women. It comes out when they think that they have in some way been wronged by a man, even if it was the woman who left while the man was at work (to support her) and took all the money, the CD collection, the wedding album and the cat.
There are good women. I have had the pleasure to meet a few. Would I actually trust a woman, any woman, to not betray me the moment that it might advantage her to do so: not a chance!
 
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There are few creatures that can match the vicious vindictive hypocritical nasty streak that runs down the back of most women. It comes out when they think that they have in some way been wronged by a man, even if it was the woman who left while the man was at work (to support her) and took all the money, the CD collection, the wedding album and the cat.There are good women. I have had the pleasure to meet a few. Would I actually trust a woman, any woman, to not betray me the moment that it might advantage her to do so: not a chance!
That would be your worsed nightmare, wouldn't it, Derrick? Losing your precious feline to a woman.
 
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Old December 8th, 2010 #90
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I can't remember the author but the Birdman, of Blessed Memory, would have given him Quote of the Day for:

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"You don't know anything about a woman's character until it comes time to divorce her."-Unknown
Jew divorce lawyers don't help matters a bit. Women of weak character are easily manipulated by them.

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Old December 9th, 2010 #91
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I guess it's useless to expect most of the men here to stop blaming females for everything, because obviously that's why they're here in the first place: either they've been wronged by some female or they can't find a female for their own purposes, or some other reason. But the point is that the men here are just the kind of men who will always blame females first.

I posted something similar to this on the Main Page a few days ago and I'll repeat it here. Many of you aren't old enough to remember when thirty and forty years ago, and longer, it was men who divorced their wives to chase after, or marry, some younger female. Or, maybe, he just got tired of being married and wanted his freedom.

Sound familiar?

I had a number of friends whose fathers divorced their mothers to marry some younger female. The first wife, and the children, then had their whole lives uprooted because of this decision by the father. The mother and children had to move into a smaller home, sometimes light years away from what they had known. The social life of the wife was then pretty much ended, as the social life up to that point had been of both husband and wife together. And everyone knew that when a divorce occurred, it was usually the wife whose social life was ended. Because back then, the husband usually had the more prominent income/social visibility.

This divorce usually occurred after the children were in their teen years, and the wife was in her forties. Now the wife had been faithful to her husband all those years, raised their children, provided a good home, and had done everything that society told her to do to be a good wife and mother. And now, after her husband had "made it" and her life was comfortable, sometimes even luxurious, the rug was being pulled out from under her.

But, there was nothing she could do, and usually, she exited from the marriage without doing anything. Yes, she continued to get child support, maybe even alimony or some amount of money to care for their children, but her lifestyle abruptly changed overnight. She didn't go on "Oprah", or join a support group, or become a feminist, go on the internet (it didn't exist, of course) and blame her husband for being a creep, or kill her husband. She simply accepted her fate and continued to raise her children, minus her husband.

This happened time and time again to wives everywhere back when I was young. And why did this happen? It happened because one day Dad looked in the mirror and saw an older face, then looked at his wife and saw another older face. He panicked and decided that he deserved a younger woman and in order to get what he wanted, he was willing to disrupt his entire family's life, including abandoning his wife who had stood by him during the lean years and raised their children as she was told she should.

Men had no problem with this scenario, as long as it was they who were doing the leaving, not the wife. Now, forty plus years later, and it's Sally who is tiring of her marriage and husband, and getting a lawyer and turning her entire family's life upside down.

It wasn't right back then when the husband/father did it, and it's not right now when Sally does it. If a husband and wife, either or both, decide they no longer want to be married to the other, if there are children, they need to stay in the marriage until the last child has graduated from high school. Then, they go their separate ways. There is no need for child support at that time. And, unless there are dire circumstances for either spouse, there probably wouldn't be any need for alimony. There might be extenuating circumstances which would necessitate some kind of payments, however,

I get really tired of hearing you guys blame females for doing the same thing that men used to do years ago, and men didn't have any compunction to stop doing it then. But now that the tables are turned, oh boy, are you guys wailing.

My advice would be this to both men and women: If you cannot honestly see yourself married to your potential spouse for the rest of your life, remaining loyal and faithful, then don't get married. And certainly, don't have children with that person, married or not. People get older. That's a fact of life. People age as they get older and it is completely unrealistic and immature and unkind to blame someone for getting older.

Recent surveys seem to indicate that people no longer value marriage. That's a shame. I happen to believe that a happy family is the best place for children to be raised. I've known a lot of happy families down through the years, and some unhappy ones too.

There is nothing more pleasant and enjoyable to be around than a husband and wife who really love each other, and nothing worse than a husband and wife who can barely tolerate the other. Both good and bad affect the children, and the children are affected either way for the rest of their lives.

One's family life probably has more affect on your entire being than does anything else in life. And from what I've seen, a divorce has a lifelong effect on the children, and the effects probably won't show up until they're in middle age--maybe long after the parents are gone.

And, yes, unhappy family lives adversely affect children, too. But, from what I've seen, divorce has the most devastating effect on children. It really should be the last choice, only to be used in cases where severe abuse by one or both parents exists.

Just another perspective.
 
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Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the heating grate.
Time yet for a mid-day nap in the stacks?
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Tell me Mike, just what kind of income does a federal agent make these days anyway?
 
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When you want to find out something do as I do:
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I guess it's useless to expect most of the men here to stop blaming females for everything, because obviously that's why they're here in the first place: either they've been wronged by some female or they can't find a female for their own purposes, or some other reason.
I think this is just because the forum is composed primarily of men. Men have bad experiences of women, talk about this experiences, and so on. Not many men would stop to diplomatically state "Hey guys, we're at fault too!" or something similar. But I actually have seen someone say the equivalent, and I have seen men praise the women in their lives.

I've been on forums of mostly women before and the amount of "He won't pay attention to me/cheats on me/isn't romantic enough/left me for a younger woman" topics outnumber the topics where the woman places the blame on herself.
 
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Not to mention a license to kill.

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I think VNN isn't hostile to women.

I mean real women.

Feminists, slimy heartless bitches and dykes aren't real women.

http://antimisandry.com/facts-figure...otes-3841.html

http://www.articlesaboutmen.com/2010...mail&utm_campa

http://antimisandry.com/articles/wor...erland-62.html
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I don't think "VNN" is hostile to women, but VNN at one time did attract a lot of people who were hostile to women, especially those who were banned from SF for this reason. At the same time, most misogynist speech has been allowed to stand here while feminists speech would be banned. This has let a small minority of posters seem to have a greater voice than they really do, and has given VNN a reputation as a place where anti-woman sentiments are welcome, thus attracting more posters who want to bitch about women.

The whole vibe on VNN is going to seem hostile to a lot of women for two reasons. One is that the attention-whore types that flourish on many boards are not going to feel welcome. Getting into a debate and then crying about how some mean old man said something bad to you tends to be met with derision here, while on other boards it can get the guy warned or banned and bring a number of other men into the thread to "rescue" the poster. This is going to turn off many of the less assertive women who gain favor on boards by playing the damsel in distress role. On the other hand, personal attacks and some level of flaming seem to be more tolerated here than on other boards. Most women are going to get more upset over people airing their personal details or family information on the internet, and it is easy for one or two posters who have a personal grudge or agenda with a person to make the whole board seem hostile, because those attacks are allowed to stand. That sort of thing tends to make men angry or just pissed off, while the same invasion of privacy makes women feel more "violated" or victimized - men will say "what a bunch of assholes over there", while women will conclude "those guys must really have a vendetta against women to allow that to go on" (especially since no one stepped up to defend poor little me).

Reading some of Alex Linder's posts, especially in more recent months, and based on the few times I've been around him in person, I don't think he is hostile toward women at all. I do think he realizes that there are posters here on VNN who are hostile toward women, and allows them to post on here, because he doesn't see it as a huge problem, and isn't as concerned with offending the smaller numbers of WN women who may read or post here, as opposed to attracting larger numbers of disenfranchised men.
 
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