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Old August 3rd, 2014 #1
Karl Radl
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Default Does the House of Saud have a Jewish Origin?

Does the House of Saud have a Jewish Origin?

In discussions of the situation of the Middle East and the Balfour Declaration it isn't long before you run into the House of Saud: the ruling dynasty of Saudi Arabia and the titular rulers of the Arabian peninsula for circa two and a half centuries. Concomitant to this it isn't long afterwards that you are likely to hear various claims that the House of Saud has a jewish origin.

Proponents of this claim derive their information from a writer named Mohammed Sakher: whose only published work I can find is an online presentation attributed to him that has no references given for its genealogical claims. (1) When we look at the various presentation mades on this theme: they all refer to, or are based on, Sakher's claims and as such it is important to understand several things about said assertions.

In the first Sakher's presentation gives no references to its sources for the genealogy it proposes in tracing the origin of the Saudi dynasty to an individual named Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Moshe. (2) Mordechai was allegedly a merchant from Basra in modern day Iraq and began his operations in the Arabian peninsula in the year 1473 (the year 851 in the Islamic calendar).

Without specific references to the sources of Sakher's research I am afraid there is no way we can credit his genealogical claims for the simple reason that we have no proof that they are not simply a figment of his imagination since we have nothing against we can check them.

The earliest ancestor who is known about from the orthodox historical position on the House of Saud, Man'i ibn Rabiah Al-Muraydi, settled in the area close to modern day Riyadh in the years 1446-1447. This already suggests that Sakher's dating is out given that he gives Al-Muraydi (aka Mordechai in his view) as settling in the area in the year 1473.

This necessarily implies that Sakher's research is not very factual as one would suspect he'd at least come to a similar conclusion to the orthodox historians in the relation to when the earliest ancestor of the Saudis settled in Arabia and give a detailed explanation of why the orthodox account is incorrect (which Sakher doesn't give).

Indeed Sakher is quite happy producing sources when it isn't about his actual claims and cites several works and reproduces a couple of quotes from books and newspapers, but yet produces absolutely nothing that actually substantiates his genealogical claims other than an unsubstantiated assertion by a Yemeni radio station in 1960 that the Saudis were of jewish origin and a deliberately misconstrued quote from King Faisal al-Saud to the effect that jews were his (Semitic) brothers-in-arms and general kin as a way to emphasizing his desire for peace into being a confession of the House of Saud's jewish origins. (3)

In the second Sakher's presentation is very specific but yet also completely anecdotal about the arrival and activities of Mordechai into the Arabian peninsula.

Sakher states things like: (4)

'Upon hearing that name, the Jew started to hug so affectionately each one of them saying that he, himself, was also from the clan of AL MASALEEKH, but he had come to reside in BASRA (IRAQ) in consequence to a family feud between his father and some members of ANZA Tribe.'

'After he recounted to them his fabricated narrative, he ordered his servants to load all the camels of the clan's members with wheat, dates and tamman [...]'

'When the caravan was ready to depart returning to NAJD, that Jewish Merchant asked them to accept his company, because he intended to go with them to his original homeland, NAJD. Upon hearing that from him, they wholeheartedly welcomed him with a very cheerful attitude.'

'He requested the owner of that farm to grant him an asylum. The farmer was so hospitable that he immediately gave him sanctuary.'

It is immediately obvious that the above excerpts are anecdotal in nature and not derived from any genealogical documentation, but rather should be, if they are derived from anything, taken from chronicles or first-hand accounts, but yet rather suspiciously Sakher gives us no references to what these could be. Rather he just states he 'discovered' this information and expects his readers to believe it without asking for inconvenient little things like sources.

That takes care of the genealogical argument in that no actual evidence (as opposed to unsourced hearsay) has been brought forward to support it and Sakher had no problem in producing sources for his other claims: it all suggests (in addition to the suspiciously anecdotal style he adopts in knowing intimate details of these alleged long past events) that Sakher is just engaging in a bit of good old-fashioned black propaganda against the House of Saud.

The claim that Sakher's assertions must be taken seriously because he was allegedly assassinated in a contract killing orchestrated and paid for by the Saudis due to what he discovered and was attempting to publish (5) should not and cannot be taken seriously. After all we have no proof this ever happened and I cannot find even the most basic information about the supposed killing (such as the date and place): all we have is someone claiming that Sakher was murdered, which has then been blindly repeated by other authors.

Also one wonders how on earth anyone knows for sure, other than a claim from Iraqi intelligence from 2002 (which is hardly authoritative given the remit and nature of intelligence organizations), that Sakher was murdered let alone as part of a contract killing organized by the Saudi royal family themselves.

After all why kill Sakher?

There are plenty of other crazy theories out there about just every senior figure and/or influential family known to man: why not let him run his mouth considering he didn't provide any actual documentation of his claims?

It simply defies logic as well as pragmatism to go out of your way to kill someone like Sakher, because in killing them you would only draw attention to their theories rather than leaving them to sink into the black hole of public memory.

Why interest people in their theories by killing them rather than just let them howl at the proverbial moon?

It just makes no sense: does it?

Therefore on the basis of the foregoing discussion we can see there is no reason whatsoever for suspecting that the House of Saud has a jewish origin.


References


(1) http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj33/08.html
(2) Ibid.; http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/1...di-arabia.html
(3) http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspo...ne-jewish.html
(4) All taken from: http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj33/08.html
(5) http://surrenderingislam.com/surrendering-islam/saudis; http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspo...ne-jewish.html

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This was originally published at the following address: http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot...sh-origin.html
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