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Old November 2nd, 2013 #41
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I suspect this was a professional assassination, meaning this attack wasn't carried out by political rivals, etc Commies, or Anarchists. This was either a government inside job, or someone within the EU, or possibly the Israeli Mossad.

Its reminiscent of a typical Mossad assassination. A few of Iran's nuclear scientists were assassinated by "2 men on motor bikes with automatic weapons", coincidence? I doubt it. The best assassins in the world happened to use the same method, almost to a T that the GD assassins used. That either means they're professional assassins with real world training, or the Israeli Mossad was sent to carry this out.

Israel has a motivation to attack the GD, because:

They're the largest and most successful Nationalist movement in Europe.
They don't apologize for the holocaust. Their leader denied it outright.
The GD seeks to end Jewish power and control in Greece.

From the Jew's perspective, what would attacking the GD hope to accomplish?

Start a shooting war between the GD, and whatever leftist/anarchist political sect was made to take the fall for the attack. This would cause the government to intervene and establish order, essentially stamping out the GD, while the real leftists, kikes, and Commies maintain power in Greece.
Excellent analysis; I am sure the leadership of GD are also aware of the points you make, and, know exactly who was behind this atrocity.

We live in interesting times...
 
Old November 2nd, 2013 #42
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Anarcho-Tyranny In Greece:Two Golden Dawn Members Murdered By Terrorists In Greece, While Police Are Persecuting Them
By James Fulford on November 1, 2013 at 11:27pm

On October 8, Peter Brimelow wrote Horrifying Details Of Golden Dawn's RepressionComing To An America Near You? about the persecution of an entire political party because someone got killed in a street fight.

Dimitris Papageorgiou writes from Greece that this has now turned into anarcho-tyranny.

While the Greek Police are arresting anyone from Golden Dawn who has "sticks of wood"--by which he presumably means batons, although it could even mean six-inch long Kubotans--their leftist opponents are organized enough to have pistols and submachineguns, and used them to commit two murders.

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Two young members of Golden Dawn, Kapelonis Manolis and Fountoulis Georgios were murdered earlier tonight while safeguarding an event taking place inside the offices of the party in the northern suburbs of Athens. Alexandros Gerontas, father of a two year old, aged 29 is fighting for his life in a hospital, and the doctors diagnose the situation as critical.

Two black clad people riding a motorcycle opened fire on the guard team of 7-8 person that were on the pavement in front of the building of GD. Early information suggests that after using an MP-5, they got in close and shot both to the head with 9mm pistols.

Golden Dawn members had nothing to defend themselves with, as the police in the previous week raided most GD offices and arrested people for sticks of wood.

Golden Dawn had notified the police of the event taking place and had asked for police protection. That was not given. It has to be noted that even mp's of Golden Dawn have no police escort, after it was removed by a decision of the ministry.

For the past month and a half GD has been the target of both a systematic terror campaign from the police but also the extreme left.

The anti-terrorist squad was used against Golden Dawn, while murders walk free.

P.S. The irony is that today the antiracist law was given to publicity.
Anarcho-Tyranny (the word has Greek roots) was Sam Francis's term for the system of government that can always manage to take a gun away from a homeowner or convenience store clerk, but can't be bothered to jail a burglar or a robber, even if they can catch him.

As you can see here, the Golden Dawn members are watched so closely they can't even carry pocket-knives, but the police don't seem to be able to prevent "anti-racist" murders--or protect the citizens of Greece from African immigrant crime.
 
Old November 2nd, 2013 #43
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Old November 3rd, 2013 #44
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I suspect this was a professional assassination, meaning this attack wasn't carried out by political rivals, etc Commies, or Anarchists. This was either a government inside job, or someone within the EU, or possibly the Israeli Mossad.

Its reminiscent of a typical Mossad assassination. A few of Iran's nuclear scientists were assassinated by "2 men on motor bikes with automatic weapons", coincidence? I doubt it. The best assassins in the world happened to use the same method, almost to a T that the GD assassins used. That either means they're professional assassins with real world training, or the Israeli Mossad was sent to carry this out.

Israel has a motivation to attack the GD, because:

They're the largest and most successful Nationalist movement in Europe.
They don't apologize for the holocaust. Their leader denied it outright.
The GD seeks to end Jewish power and control in Greece.

From the Jew's perspective, what would attacking the GD hope to accomplish?

Start a shooting war between the GD, and whatever leftist/anarchist political sect was made to take the fall for the attack. This would cause the government to intervene and establish order, essentially stamping out the GD, while the real leftists, kikes, and Commies maintain power in Greece.
Yep, very likely, the problem though is what is the GD to do if these "random" acts of violence continue concomitant with state repression...given that GD has mass support, the conditions are being set for civil war/revolution in Greece, the establishment simply will not permit nationalist interference, so it looks like GD is targeted to be neutralized.

Eventually all the cards will be on the table, not just in Greece but everywhere, when the global controllers make their final push for total domination in your face tyranny will be the only tool available to accomplish the task, at that point it'll be decision time for all...
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HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE!

What will this ignite???

May The Creator bless the souls who lost their lives, and bless the families during this terrible time.
Amen to that, basically the white genocide in Greece is now being ramped up to direct and violent attack either by the *Greek Government* it's elf or it's lackeys like the violent non white attacks on our race in the western/euro nations.
 
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I suspect this was a professional assassination, meaning this attack wasn't carried out by political rivals, etc Commies, or Anarchists. This was either a government inside job, or someone within the EU, or possibly the Israeli Mossad.

Its reminiscent of a typical Mossad assassination. A few of Iran's nuclear scientists were assassinated by "2 men on motor bikes with automatic weapons", coincidence? I doubt it. The best assassins in the world happened to use the same method, almost to a T that the GD assassins used. That either means they're professional assassins with real world training, or the Israeli Mossad was sent to carry this out.

Israel has a motivation to attack the GD, because:

They're the largest and most successful Nationalist movement in Europe.
They don't apologize for the holocaust. Their leader denied it outright.
The GD seeks to end Jewish power and control in Greece.

From the Jew's perspective, what would attacking the GD hope to accomplish?

Start a shooting war between the GD, and whatever leftist/anarchist political sect was made to take the fall for the attack. This would cause the government to intervene and establish order, essentially stamping out the GD, while the real leftists, kikes, and Commies maintain power in Greece.
Well said and most likely true.

Your insight serves you well.
 
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Giorgos Fountoulis, Manolis Kapelonis
You will never be forgotten! Your sacrifice will guide us, our final victory will be our great revenge!
May what ever god or gods there are if any give these two fine men peaceful rest in the after life free of worries and most of all non white scum.

I hope they will see our final victory over the jewish scum and the traitors to our race and the rightful execution of them.
 
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Excellent analysis; I am sure the leadership of GD are also aware of the points you make, and, know exactly who was behind this atrocity.

We live in interesting times...
They can't trust the police to get to the bottom of it, because its clear the police were in cahoots with whoever carried out the assassination.

They should look to hire the best private investigator they can find to get to the bottom of it.

Also:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ssination.html

This is what I mean by the similarities:

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/iran...icle-1.1004892

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Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan killed by motorcyclists with magnet bomb
Slapped a bomb on the side of the guy's car WHILE he was driving it. Then sped off and blew him up.

The Israeli Mossad more or less writes the text book for assassination techniques.

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They should look to hire the best private investigator they can find to get to the bottom of it.
You must be joking. No private investigator worth his salt would touch high profile political murder investigations with a ten foot barge pole.

Also your assertion that Mossad must be behind it because they used a motorcycle is a bit daft. It's the obvious choice for a hit like this. I'm not saying Mossad was not behind it though.

As the real facts are coming out it does look more like the work of anarchist hot-heads. But, it is entirely possible they may have been supplied with the tokarev pistol and wound up to do it by an outside agency. We will probably never know the whole truth.
 
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The third man who was shot outside Golden Dawns offices in northern Athens on Friday night has undergone surgery and was in a critical condition on Saturday.

Doctors performed a splenectomy on the victim, named as 29-year-old Alexandros Gerontas, after he was shot by two gunmen who killed two Golden Dawn members outside the neofascist partys offices in Neo Iraklio.

In a statement, the Giorgos Gennimatas Hospital said that Gerontas had been transferred to the intensive care unit.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w...11/2013_525923
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I do not really follow the conspiracy theorist' thinking on the particular issue.
Why on earth would Mossad -or any government agency for that matter- pursue the killing of two low-ranking GD members?

The results of the killing are as follows:

- GD is victimized in the eyes of the people.
- The public mourning of a leftist martyr Killah P, is replaced by the memory of this event.
- The left once again comes forth as the main force of terrorism and destabilization in our society.

See what I mean? The only way we could accept a conspiracy theory is if the ZOG has a grander scheme in mind, meaning that both the far-left and radical Nationalism are to be fought, in order to secure ''public safety''.



The only killings that would affect GD in a terrible way would be the killing of either Kasidiaris or Michaloliakos.
 
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Best of luck to the GD, they must carry on the fight for the sake of these two fallen men.


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Amen to that, basically the white genocide in Greece is now being ramped up to direct and violent attack either by the *Greek Government* it's elf or it's lackeys like the violent non white attacks on our race in the western/euro nations.
Your spelling suddenly got better, I wonder when it will 'go back to normal' again.
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I do not really follow the conspiracy theorist' thinking on the particular issue.
Why on earth would Mossad -or any government agency for that matter- pursue the killing of two low-ranking GD members?
You are assuming that the "low-ranking GD members" were the target.

Is this a conspiracy that you are trying to create?...or is your perifial vision really that narrow?

I mean no harm as I address you, but you may not yet be able to discern the difference between "conspiracy facts" and "conspiracy theories".
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You are assuming that the "low-ranking GD members" were the target.

Is this a conspiracy that you are trying to create?...or is your perifial vision really that narrow?

I mean no harm as I address you, but you may not yet be able to discern the difference between "conspiracy facts" and "conspiracy theories".
Even if MPs Germenis and Iliopoulos were the prime targets (I assume that's what you mean), the same I stated above stands. In fact, two dead MPs would be an even bigger turn on for the followers.
 
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Even if MPs Germenis and Iliopoulos were the prime targets (I assume that's what you mean), the same I stated above stands. In fact, two dead MPs would be an even bigger turn on for the followers.
Do not assume that you know what I mean and then toss out names.

Our discussion is closed.
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Even if MPs Germenis and Iliopoulos were the prime targets (I assume that's what you mean), the same I stated above stands. In fact, two dead MPs would be an even bigger turn on for the followers.
Yeah. It was obviously more an opportunistic hit on the Golden Dawn headquarters as such. Anyone openly working for Golden Dawn was a target.

You don't have to be a 'mossad trained assassin' to realize that if they wanted a high-profile Golden Dawn target they would find out where they lived and the routes they use to get to and from work.
 
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Do know assume that you know what I mean and then toss out names.


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Yeah. It was obviously more an opportunistic hit on the Golden Dawn headquarters as such. Anyone openly working for Golden Dawn was a target.

You don't have to be a 'mossad trained assassin' to realize that if they wanted a high-profile Golden Dawn target they would find out where they lived and the routes they use to get to and from work.
We agree on this.
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Yeah. It was obviously more an opportunistic hit on the Golden Dawn headquarters as such. Anyone openly working for Golden Dawn was a target.

You don't have to be a 'mossad trained assassin' to realize that if they wanted a high-profile Golden Dawn target they would find out where they lived and the routes they use to get to and from work.
It wasn't but a few weeks ago that anonymous made a video staging threats against GD.
 
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