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Old May 14th, 2005 #21
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Satanic pagan, did you not know that Christianity was the best thing to ever happen to the White European races. Before that they where dumb savages who just lived in caves and prayed to pine-cones, trees and rocks. And doing satanic voodoo magic. Just like that satanic juju man in your avatar. Christianity by the blessing of Jesus gave us civilzation.

You have got to be the dumbest fucking moron on this forum since Sean Doc Martin... oh wait, he's still here. Well you are about to take his title.

Did you ever hear of something called Macedonia's empire? The Persian empire? The later Grecco-Roman empire? These were the most scientifically and philosophically advanced civilizations in the history of the world and Christianity obliterated and destroyed THAT VERY CIVILIZATION and put Europe into a dark age that lasted until trade with the Arab world allowed some of that vital knowledge to filter back in(because Islam didn't demonize science and thus inherited Grecco-Roman learning that was preserved in the Levant and Middle East).

Christianity led to plague and disease(because it destroyed facilities for public health), the abandonment of cities(due to over taxation), wide-scale illiteracy and superstition... etc.

Christianity simply took Pagan philosophy, and twisted it into something literal so that any simple idiot could believe in its superstitions rather than serious contemplating the spiritual questions from people like Socrates and Plato(two figures whose sayings were clearly ripped off to form some of Jesus' teachings).

The White world has since then NEVER created a civilization equal to the glory of the Grecco-Roman world, even after reinventing much of the technology and scientific concepts that were common knowledge during Roman days.
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Spare me the heathen propaganda, the ancient Greeks where sexual degenerates and they killed themselves off by abortion and war and racial mixing. Oh so satanic racist, Rome was a copy off of Greece and was ruled by despot after despot. If you whine about America today, it is a mirrior of ancient Rome.I will give the freak Greeks one thing they converted on mass to christianity, because they where smart to know it's truth. Why would a satanic racist such as you, like the Macedonian empire or the Persian one they where both multicult,multiracial, ploygot empires. Oh...wait you are also the Slavic that loves Hitler, and thinks he did not hate Slavics because he used them for bullet catchers in the war. Greek "philosophy" was just satanic deism, made by athiests like the sexual pervert plato. For there master was satan. It was Christianity that gave us real civilization and salvation. It brought us out of the caves, and gave us the light. Now go pratice your pagan voodoo magic, Fool! and get some education, beside juju rune magic.

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You have got to be the dumbest fucking moron on this forum since Sean Doc Martin... oh wait, he's still here. Well you are about to take his title.

Did you ever hear of something called Macedonia's empire? The Persian empire? The later Grecco-Roman empire? These were the most scientifically and philosophically advanced civilizations in the history of the world and Christianity obliterated and destroyed THAT VERY CIVILIZATION and put Europe into a dark age that lasted until trade with the Arab world allowed some of that vital knowledge to filter back in(because Islam didn't demonize science and thus inherited Grecco-Roman learning that was preserved in the Levant and Middle East).

Christianity led to plague and disease(because it destroyed facilities for public health), the abandonment of cities(due to over taxation), wide-scale illiteracy and superstition... etc.

Christianity simply took Pagan philosophy, and twisted it into something literal so that any simple idiot could believe in its superstitions rather than serious contemplating the spiritual questions from people like Socrates and Plato(two figures whose sayings were clearly ripped off to form some of Jesus' teachings).

The White world has since then NEVER created a civilization equal to the glory of the Grecco-Roman world, even after reinventing much of the technology and scientific concepts that were common knowledge during Roman days.
 
Old May 14th, 2005 #23
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I never heard of the Druid empire, though.
 
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Jesus Freak, whoever and whatever you are, what is your purpose on this forum? Is it to defend jews and to attack racists?

Would you feel more at home and comfortable in the Opposition Forum?
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Jesus Freak, whoever and whatever you are, what is your purpose on this forum? Is it to defend jews and to attack racists?

Would you feel more at home and comfortable in the Opposition Forum?

I think he is aiming to piss off everyone.
 
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Ironic how the truth always does seem to do that.

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Old May 14th, 2005 #27
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Spare me the heathen propaganda, the ancient Greeks where sexual degenerates and they killed themselves off by abortion and war and racial mixing. Oh so satanic racist, Rome was a copy off of Greece and was ruled by despot after despot. If you whine about America today, it is a mirrior of ancient Rome.I will give the freak Greeks one thing they converted on mass to christianity, because they where smart to know it's truth. Why would a satanic racist such as you, like the Macedonian empire or the Persian one they where both multicult,multiracial, ploygot empires. Oh...wait you are also the Slavic that loves Hitler, and thinks he did not hate Slavics because he used them for bullet catchers in the war. Greek "philosophy" was just satanic deism, made by athiests like the sexual pervert plato. For there master was satan. It was Christianity that gave us real civilization and salvation. It brought us out of the caves, and gave us the light. Now go pratice your pagan voodoo magic, Fool! and get some education, beside juju rune magic.

You are a fucking moron who knows nothing about history. The Greeks were not sexual degenerates and neither were the Romans. Decadence was a practice of a small minority and this only happened until the late years of both empires. History proves again and again, and very recently this is true, that Christianity not only fails to prevent homosexuality but may actually unintentially encourage it.

Christianity did NOT bring anyone out of caves, if anything it sent people out of majestic cities with their clean sewage systems, irrigation, observatories and public baths, and into diseased hovels in the countryside. It was Christianity that attacked and set out to destroy science and learning, destroying one(among many others) of the greatest archives of learning and science in the known world at the time- the library of Alexandria. Greek medicine was forgotten and replaced by leechcraft and prayer. The knowledge that the Earth was round, its remarkably accurately estimated circumfrance, and the idea of a Heliocentric universe was forgotten and had to be REDISCOVERED against the will of the church.

What you Christians fail to realize is that other religions are not like yours- thus Pagans did not LITERALLY believe in their myths. Only the uninitiated might believe that. Pagan philosophers write VOLUMES of work talking about how myths are allegory for the secrets of the universe, those secrets which were revealed to initiates of the mystery religions. Their main point of contention with early Christians is that they insisted on people's literal belief in their myths, something the Pagan sages found to be insane, and routinely said so much.


You don't have a leg to stand on talking about education- your claims are so idiotic that they are hardly worth addressing, as in the case with Hitler and the Slavs, you fail to see what is right in front of your face. And by your logic Hitler hated Germans as well because he used them as bullet-catchers more than anyone else.


You're arguing out of your league. If you want to make an ass out of yourself, by all means continue. Otherwise don't spout off such idiocy as claiming that Christianity brought us out of caves when in fact it nearly almost put us back in them. What you are arguing here is no different than claiming that China used to rule over America, or that UFOs built the pyramids.
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Old May 14th, 2005 #28
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You are a fucking moron who knows nothing about history. The Greeks were not sexual degenerates and neither were the Romans. Decadence was a practice of a small minority and this only happened until the late years of both empires. History proves again and again, and very recently this is true, that Christianity not only fails to prevent homosexuality but may actually unintentially encourage it.
Your holy Greeks turned out to be race mixers, and multicultual lovers, not to mention Athens built democracy the enemy of nazism. There whole insolent civilization crashed, so much for there magical smarts. Rome is the ancient U.S.A or what you racists call zog, and was more harmful to Europeans then anything else. The fact both shotty civilizations fell shows that decadence was the norm.



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Christianity did NOT bring anyone out of caves, if anything it sent people out of majestic cities with their clean sewage systems, irrigation, observatories and public baths, and into diseased hovels in the countryside. It was Christianity that attacked and set out to destroy science and learning, destroying one(among many others) of the greatest archives of learning and science in the known world at the time- the library of Alexandria. Greek medicine was forgotten and replaced by leechcraft and prayer. The knowledge that the Earth was round, its remarkably accurately estimated circumfrance, and the idea of a Heliocentric universe was forgotten and had to be REDISCOVERED against the will of the church.
The cities in Roman times had diesease breaking out alot, plus constant fires,riots,high crime, corruption, the mass of the city of Rome was crammed together slums.Rome was the ancient New York. Christian Europe created some to the best science and advances in medicine in the world. They always knew the earth was round. Alot of the things you whine of where destroyed by invading barbarians from the North, pagan barbarians, You also seem to forget the frist time the Libary of Alexandria was burnt was by one of your holy pagan Romans. Hypocrite!

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What you Christians fail to realize is that other religions are not like yours- thus Pagans did not LITERALLY believe in their myths. Only the uninitiated might believe that. Pagan philosophers write VOLUMES of work talking about how myths are allegory for the secrets of the universe, those secrets which were revealed to initiates of the mystery religions. Their main point of contention with early Christians is that they insisted on people's literal belief in their myths, something the Pagan sages found to be insane, and routinely said so much.
In a world of a million religions everone prays the same way. The ancient Greeks you love so where on mass just as religious as fundimental Christians of today. They even ordered a certain Greek athiest philosopher to death for preaching athiestism. It says in the bible the Greeks had dozens of altars to many Gods. Those pagans believed in there Gods like us Christians believe in our Lord Jesus. The group of philosophers you speak of have existed in all ages and follow satanic deism and athiestism. And always look down there noses at the "stupid masses" etc. The mystery religions taught the two types, and the biggest group will always be the literal believers and that was even before Christianity which shows that is the way it has always been. The mystery religion resulted from being cut off to God.


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You don't have a leg to stand on talking about education- your claims are so idiotic that they are hardly worth addressing, as in the case with Hitler and the Slavs, you fail to see what is right in front of your face. And by your logic Hitler hated Germans as well because he used them as bullet-catchers more than anyone else.
I have two legs to stand on, Hitler did use the Slav's for troops just like the French used Nergo troops in there forces. You think marxism was bad you Slav's would have welcomed it, compared to what Hitler had in mind for you. It would be along the lines of what the Spartan state did with the helots. But that would ruin your Hitler whorship.


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You're arguing out of your league. If you want to make an ass out of yourself, by all means continue. Otherwise don't spout off such idiocy as claiming that Christianity brought us out of caves when in fact it nearly almost put us back in them. What you are arguing here is no different than claiming that China used to rule over America, or that UFOs built the pyramids.
There is flaw to your rant, your retarded.
 
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Your holy Greeks turned out to be race mixers, and multicultual lovers, not to mention Athens built democracy the enemy of nazism. There whole insolent civilization crashed, so much for there magical smarts. Rome is the ancient U.S.A or what you racists call zog, and was more harmful to Europeans then anything else. The fact both shotty civilizations fell shows that decadence was the norm.

Christianity ended racemixing? Are you insane?



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The cities in Roman times had diesease breaking out alot, plus constant fires,riots,high crime, corruption, the mass of the city of Roman was crammed together slums.Rome was the ancient New York. Christian Europe created some to the best science and advances in medicine in the world. They always knew the earth was round. Alot of the things you whine of where destroyed by invading barbarians from the North, pagan barbarians.
No, actually they didn't. Like I said before, these issues are not up for debate. Christian Europe preached a flat earth and a geocentric universe for several centuries. And no, those things were not destroyed by barbarians, they were destroyed by Christian fanatics, and later they were broken down to reuse the stone for cathedrals and churches as there were no more quarries in Europe for quite some time after Christianization.

Again, this is not up for debate- what you are claiming is no different than saying that the Aztecs had automobiles before the Spaniards showed up.


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In a world of a million religions everone prays the same way. The ancient Greeks you love so where on mass just as religious as fundimental Christians of today. They even ordered a certain Greek athiest philosopher to death for preaching athiestism. It says in the bible the Greeks had dozens of altars to many Gods. Those pagans believed in there Gods like us Christians believe in our Lord Jesus. The group of philosophers you speak of have existed in all ages and follow satanic deism and athiestism. And always look down there noses at the "stupid masses" etc. The mystery religions taught the two types, and the biggest group will always be the literal believers and that was even before Christianity which shows that is the way it has always been. The mystery religion resulted from being cut off to God.
No, Pagan philosophers routinely said that the statues were merely personifications and representations of various faces of the same, one God.



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I have two legs to stand on, Hitler did use the Slav's for troops just like the French used Nergo troops in there forces. You thnk bolshevikism is bad you Slav's would have welcomed it, compared to what Hitler had in mind for you. It would be along the lines of what the Teutonic Order did with the Slavic people under there heel. But that would ruin your Hitler whorship.
First of all, I am not a Hitler worshipper. I don't try to re-fight WW2 like 90% of the racialists out there. Second, you trying to argue this issue with me is no different than you arguing your own theories of the universe with Steven Hawking. I have studied more books and publications on this subject than you could ever imagine. You couldn't even name any Slavic units off the top of your head without the aid of Google, so how can you even comment on how they were "used"? The truth is that Slavs were supplied with planes, precious fuel, advanced weapons, their own uniforms and insignia, religious personnel, personal gifts from Hitler(in the case of the Bosnian imams of the 13th SS), and numerous other resources from a nation that was strained to produce them.



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There is flaw to your rant, your retarded.

Flaw? I would say your utter lack of knowledge about history and idiotic claims of Christian advancement constitute pretty big flaws. Oh, nice misuse of a possessive pronoun as well, INGRATE! Ha HA!
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Christianity ended racemixing? Are you insane?
No, but you seem to be.



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No, actually they didn't. Like I said before, these issues are not up for debate. Christian Europe preached a flat earth and a geocentric universe for several centuries. And no, those things were not destroyed by barbarians, they were destroyed by Christian fanatics, and later they were broken down to reuse the stone for cathedrals and churches as there were no more quarries in Europe for quite some time after Christianization.
The barbarians sacked Rome badly burning half of it and pillaged through out the weaken Empire for years, destroying more then one city. Those other things you whine of was brought in by the catholic heads, started by your holy Romans. the scientists did not stop knowing. And Christianity brought in a Golden Age for North West Europe, and real writting. They carried out Romanization by religious means and brought civilization where the pagan Empire had failed.





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No, Pagan philosophers routinely said that the statues were merely personifications and representations of various faces of the same, one God.
Yes but the majority of people believed otherwise, remeber your holy pagans burned the Libary at Alexandria frist. They where pushing the same stupid deism and athiestism that the same types do today. Not to mention your holy pagans allowed there pagan shotty civilizations to collaspe into what you blame Christianity for. Looks like there not so perfect after all.




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First of all, I am not a Hitler worshipper. I don't try to re-fight WW2 like 90% of the racialists out there. Second, you trying to argue this issue with me is no different than you arguing your own theories of the universe with Steven Hawking. I have studied more books and publications on this subject than you could ever imagine. You couldn't even name any Slavic units off the top of your head without the aid of Google, so how can you even comment on how they were "used"? The truth is that Slavs were supplied with planes, precious fuel, advanced weapons, their own uniforms and insignia, religious personnel, personal gifts from Hitler(in the case of the Bosnian imams of the 13th SS), and numerous other resources from a nation that was strained to produce them.
So the French gave there Nergo troops uniforms and equipment too, and if I cared I could dig up evidence of different Nergo units. And gave there Nergo troops trinkets to gloat them on and make them happy Nergo servants. That still does not change the fact he stated he considered Slav's a lower race. He had a Spartan state like ideal planned for East Europe with the Germanic's at the top and the Slavic's as the Helots. He would have used some for kappo's though. There are traitiors in every race. Steven Hawking's you seem to have a big opinion of yourself. Your not a very good Bhodhisattva at all.
 
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No, but you seem to be.
You're the one arguing out of your league here.




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The barbarians sacked Rome badly burning half of it and pillaged through out the weaken Empire for years, destroying more then one city. Those other things you whine of was brought in by the catholic heads, started by your holy Romans. the scientists did not stop knowing. And Christianity brought in a Golden Age for North West Europe, and real writting. They carried out Romanization by religious means and brought civilization where the pagan Empire had failed.
History lesson fucktard. The barbarians sacked Rome about 100 years AFTER Christianity. Why did they succeed? Because the church began drawing Roman officers away into the priesthood ever since the Christianization. As the army was weakened, the Christian empire began to rely on mercenaries drawn from the same Germanic tribes that would later conquer Rome. In between that time, they were forced to literally bribe barbarians into leaving the Empire alone, something that Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire would later be forced to do with the Turks. While Christian Rome was wasting the wealth of a millenium to bribe its enemies, the Church still demanded more and more money for its projects such as religious councils.

No, Christianity did not bring a Golden Age to Europe at any point and time and this assertion is no different than claiming that aliens came down and designed a landing pad on the Nazca plateau in Peru. In fact, ever major advancement in Europe since the Christianization came when Church authority weakened... Which brings me to my next point about the Roman Church bringing in all that nonsense:

EUROPE WAS CHRISTIANIZED BY THE ROMAN CHURCH, NO ROMAN CHURCH, NO EUROPEAN CHRISTIANITY. And you claim that it was the Christians that Romanized places like England? Are you a FUCKING MORON? Haven't you heard of something called HADRIAN'S WALL?








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Yes but the majority of people believed otherwise, remeber your holy pagans burned the Libary at Alexandria frist. They where pushing the same stupid deism and athiestism that the same types do today. Not to mention your holy pagans allowed there pagan shotty civilizations to collaspe into what you blame Christianity for. Looks like there not so perfect after all.
No retard, Christian fanatics destroyed the library and mutilated Hypatia. Oh and Pagan civilizations aren't PERFECT? LOOK at what 1700 years of Christianity has given the peoples of Europe!





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So the French gave there Nergo troops uniforms and equipment too, and if I cared I could dig up evidence of different Nergo units. And gave there Nergo troops trinkets to gloat them on and make them happy Nergo servants. That still does not change the fact he stated he considered Slav's a lower race. He had a Spartan state like ideal planned for East Europe with the Germanic's at the top and the Slavic's as the Helots. He would have used some for kappo's though. There are traitiors in every race. Steven Hawking's you seem to have a big opinion of yourself. Your not a very good Bhodhisattva at all.
Hitler did not consider them another race. Nazi racial policy did not consider them another race. They were allowed to marry German women and vica versa and did so in large numbers. You being largely ignorant of history, you probably weren't aware that A LARGE PORTION OF GERMANS WERE AND STILL ARE MIXED WITH SLAVS. That fact was borne out by their names, such as Kubizek as in August Kubizek, one of Hitler's closest friends. Hitler's opinion of Slavs was normal for a German nationalist from Austria who lived through his time. Second, you cannot comment on Slavic units in German service because you know nothing of the subject and that is rather apparent. Like I said, you might as well explain your theories on gravity to Stephen Hawking. How do you account for the fact that PRIOR to Hitler's coming to power, his party worked with many Slavic organizations, particularly anti-Bolshevik exile groups? Plus, the Slavs that fought on the German side were not merely volunteers in German service but also those of several Slavic nations allied with the Reich, including first combat ally Slovakia. People who make idiotic claims like you never suggest that Hitler was using Norwegians, Frenchmen, Hungarians, Romanians, Swedes, or Finns as bullet sponges- but when it comes to legions of well-equipped, well-trained Slavic units they are suddenly just cannon fodder.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Be gone from my sight.
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Another Hitler and Slavs debate. I am getting so sick of winning these. Won't anybody wake up and realize that Hitler is dead, WW2 is over, and Hitler predicted his own failure anyway so it's all meant to be? Every forum retard that can't argue against me thinks they are going to pull some kind of flanking manuever with the Slavic thing- and it always just ends up proving that they know nothing about WW2, miltarily or ideologically.

Some tards never learn.
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Satanic pagan, did you not know that Christianity was the best thing to ever happen to the White European races. Before that they where dumb savages who just lived in caves and prayed to pine-cones, trees and rocks. And doing satanic voodoo magic. Just like that satanic juju man in your avatar. Christianity by the blessing of Jesus gave us civilzation.
Jesus Freak, or should I say Yahweh777?
Clearly you fail to appreciate that xtianity has not brought us any civilisation but racial destruction through the weakening of our race by a slave mentality?
"A nihilistic religion[like Christianity], sprung from and appropriate to a people grown old and tame, having outlived all strong instincts......"[The Will To Power,156, Friedrich Nietzsche]
Prior to the introduction of the xtian virus Aryan man proudly possessed the culture of the ancient Greeks,Romans,Egyptians,Bablyonians,Hindus,Celts,Teutons,Slavs and Persians.
Tell me how this fits in with your picture of the Aryan living in a state of savagery and barbarism!
Need I also remind you that xtianity sprang from Judaism and is entirely Jewish in form, content and conception?
 
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Spare me the heathen propaganda, the ancient Greeks where sexual degenerates and they killed themselves off by abortion and war and racial mixing.

I have far more respect for Doc Martin than I have for you.You are clearly trolling this forum and encouraging division.One glance at your signature is enough for any moderator to realise this.Perhaps your appropriate venue for posting should be "Opposing Views" ?It is not paganism that caused the destruction of the great Roman empire but race-mixing which was encouraged by the pernicious doctrines of Judeo-xtianity and their false and life destroying concepts of "equality" and pacifism.Any decline that was already there was accelerated by that Jewish Weltanschauung.Abortion in itself is not necessarily a "bad" practice especially when it is part of an ordered programme of eugenics and racial hygiene.

Oh so satanic racist, Rome was a copy off of Greece and was ruled by despot after despot. If you whine about America today, it is a mirrior of ancient Rome.I will give the freak Greeks one thing they converted on mass to christianity, because they where smart to know it's truth. Why would a satanic racist such as you, like the Macedonian empire or the Persian one they where both multicult,multiracial, ploygot empires.

In what way were the Macedonian and Persian empires "multiracial"? Alexander did encourage a fusion of the 2 peoples but they were both essentially Aryan and so this cannot be evidence of "multiracialism".

Oh...wait you are also the Slavic that loves Hitler, and thinks he did not hate Slavics because he used them for bullet catchers in the war.

It is misguided to interperet Operation Barbarossa as a Slav-Teuton ethnic war.It was a war of one ideology, National Socialism against another, Communism.The Third Reich had allies that were non Germanic and also non Germans were recruited for the Waffen SS which was seen as a pan-Aryan army.

Greek "philosophy" was just satanic deism, made by athiests like the sexual pervert plato. For there master was satan. It was Christianity that gave us real civilization and salvation. It brought us out of the caves, and gave us the light. Now go pratice your pagan voodoo magic, Fool! and get some education, beside juju rune magic. [/QUOTE]

How can you use the terms "Satanism" and "Satan" when discussing Aryan paganism? These are entirely Jewish and xtian concepts.Are you happy to share heaven with negroes and other racial inferiors? Afterall your xtian heaven is multicultural.By the way voodoo has nothing to do with the runes.You would benefit by reading a few books other than the bible.
 
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History lesson fucktard. The barbarians sacked Rome about 100 years AFTER Christianity. Why did they succeed? Because the church began drawing Roman officers away into the priesthood ever since the Christianization. As the army was weakened, the Christian empire began to rely on mercenaries drawn from the same Germanic tribes that would later conquer Rome. In between that time, they were forced to literally bribe barbarians into leaving the Empire alone, something that Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire would later be forced to do with the Turks. While Christian Rome was wasting the wealth of a millenium to bribe its enemies, the Church still demanded more and more money for its projects such as religious councils.
The Roman army was weakening way before that as Rome was rotting from the inside out back in the pagan days. The Roman state was doing the bribe tactic back before Trajan. And where empolying Germanic hired swords way back into the pagan days. Why do you think the Roman rulers decided to use a universalist religion free to anyone, and not just a select like Mirthraism, it is more easy to hold power over the ploygot masses of the Roman empire. Rome was denegerate and falling apart way before Christianity was made the offical religion.


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No, Christianity did not bring a Golden Age to Europe at any point and time and this assertion is no different than claiming that aliens came down and designed a landing pad on the Nazca plateau in Peru. In fact, ever major advancement in Europe since the Christianization came when Church authority weakened... Which brings me to my next point about the Roman Church bringing in all that nonsense:

EUROPE WAS CHRISTIANIZED BY THE ROMAN CHURCH, NO ROMAN CHURCH, NO EUROPEAN CHRISTIANITY. And you claim that it was the Christians that Romanized places like England? Are you a FUCKING MORON? Haven't you heard of something called HADRIAN'S WALL?
Yes the Ghibelline Middle Ages, was the age of solar christianity and civiling of North, West Europe ie Germania.etc But conflict between the Warrior Caste and Priest Caste toppled it, they should have blended the two in harmony instead like in India, it seems they where harmonized at the start when the pope and Emperor office where one. But then they split, and it became a literal solar vs lunar, that sowed the seeds of doom.
I do not think it was a mistake they chose to call it "Mother church." The spirit of the Crusade was not seen again in Europe till WW2 with the Waffen SS legions, and the nazi Crusade against the East, I thought a nazi like you would understand that. I stated that Christianity brought Romanization to the places of Europe where the pagan Roman sword could not. And helped to lay the ground for nations.







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No retard, Christian fanatics destroyed the library and mutilated Hypatia. Oh and Pagan civilizations aren't PERFECT? LOOK at what 1700 years of Christianity has given the peoples of Europe!
It was pagan Romans who burned it the frist time, the history of your holy pagan Romans is drenched in blood of millions, Caesar and his fellow pagan Romans alone killed a million Gauls, and enslaved millions more, and we know the pagan that burned the Alexandria libary. Tactius even wrote about a certain Germanic tribe that got lax, and was divided brutally by two other tribes.1700 years of Christian civilization has given the world advanced art, science and ethics.







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Hitler did not consider them another race. Nazi racial policy did not consider them another race. They were allowed to marry German women and vica versa and did so in large numbers. You being largely ignorant of history, you probably weren't aware that A LARGE PORTION OF GERMANS WERE AND STILL ARE MIXED WITH SLAVS. That fact was borne out by their names, such as Kubizek as in August Kubizek, one of Hitler's closest friends. Hitler's opinion of Slavs was normal for a German nationalist from Austria who lived through his time. Second, you cannot comment on Slavic units in German service because you know nothing of the subject and that is rather apparent. Like I said, you might as well explain your theories on gravity to Stephen Hawking. How do you account for the fact that PRIOR to Hitler's coming to power, his party worked with many Slavic organizations, particularly anti-Bolshevik exile groups? Plus, the Slavs that fought on the German side were not merely volunteers in German service but also those of several Slavic nations allied with the Reich, including first combat ally Slovakia. People who make idiotic claims like you never suggest that Hitler was using Norwegians, Frenchmen, Hungarians, Romanians, Swedes, or Finns as bullet sponges- but when it comes to legions of well-equipped, well-trained Slavic units they are suddenly just cannon fodder.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Be gone from my sight.
Keep telling yourself that is how Hitler felt about the people he called a inferior lower race. So Hitler being pragmatic used the Slavics to help win in the East, but do not think he was a friend of the Slav's for it. The French had there Nergo's the English there Indian troops, and Hitler his Slavic's. Your race movement has remade Hitler in there image, not how he really was. As for the other European peoples who fought for Hitler, yes he was not going to turn there homelands into Spartan style state with them as the Helots. If anything it would have been like the Teutonic conquests. I say Slavic people are White, but your Hitler still said there where the mongrel, lower race of Europe. But the fact seems to make you upset like a child being told that Santa is not real.
 
Old May 15th, 2005 #36
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I have far more respect for Doc Martin than I have for you.You are clearly trolling this forum and encouraging division.One glance at your signature is enough for any moderator to realise this.Perhaps your appropriate venue for posting should be "Opposing Views" ?It is not paganism that caused the destruction of the great Roman empire but race-mixing which was encouraged by the pernicious doctrines of Judeo-xtianity and their false and life destroying concepts of "equality" and pacifism.Any decline that was already there was accelerated by that Jewish Weltanschauung.Abortion in itself is not necessarily a "bad" practice especially when it is part of an ordered programme of eugenics and racial hygiene.
Good for Doc Martin is a far better Christian and has earned it. I have stated before that I do not have a problem with us White European peoples having our living space. Call not agreeing with people 100% "trolling" fine then. Is not Juden German for judean? I see people using German words here also. Really so Christianity is to blame for all things bad that has happened to the White race? Paganism did not save Arya India, it did not save Egypt,not Perisa,or North Asia.etc



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In what way were the Macedonian and Persian empires "multiracial"? Alexander did encourage a fusion of the 2 peoples but they were both essentially Aryan and so this cannot be evidence of "multiracialism".
They where also multicultual, the Persian empire was getting mighty darker by the time of Alexander. Even Rosenberg pointed out by the time of Zoroastrianism and Zarathustra the Aryan Persians where the Arya minority. The Persian and then quick lived Alexandian Empire where some of the frist big polygot empires of history.



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It is misguided to interperet Operation Barbarossa as a Slav-Teuton ethnic war.It was a war of one ideology, National Socialism against another, Communism.The Third Reich had allies that were non Germanic and also non Germans were recruited for the Waffen SS which was seen as a pan-Aryan army.
Yes when your fighting a beast the size of the Red Army you need all the people you can get. Do to the war and war losses the standard for Waffen SS troops went down. Hitler wanted the drive East so the Germanic people could have there living space, and his aim was of creating a Spartan like Caste system in the East with the bulk of the Slavic people in the Helot role. He said they where a lower race.


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How can you use the terms "Satanism" and "Satan" when discussing Aryan paganism? These are entirely Jewish and xtian concepts.Are you happy to share heaven with negroes and other racial inferiors? Afterall your xtian heaven is multicultural.By the way voodoo has nothing to do with the runes.You would benefit by reading a few books other than the bible.
I thought you where a Aryan Lord, then you should know that Satan was not a jewish concept, the Egyptians had Set, the Persians had Ahiram, for the most part Dualism is as old as religion. I know how the runes work but, felt like calling them voodoo. In Christian heaven there would be no races as race is part of the earth plane, and goes back to the dust when we die.Iam,Iam,not. Christianity is a race of the spirit, more then a physical one.
 
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As of the 1950's all the good places to live on earth were white Christian places. The power elite -non Christian asiatics (jews) - decided to change that, they told everybody they were going to change that and they did.

Neo-paganism was one of the ways they changed it.
 
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I agree your in some reality that never was.
Your the one making up things that never happened. This isn't just an argument between you and me you know. Anybody reading this is going to see that I know far more about history than you.





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The Roman army was weakening way before that as Rome was rotting from the inside out back in the pagan days. The Roman state was doing the bribe tactic back before Trajan. And where empolying Germanic hired swords way back into the pagan days. Why do you think the Roman rulers decided to use a universalist religion free to anyone, and not just a select like Mirthraism, it is more easy to hold power over the ploygot masses of the Roman empire. Rome was denegerate and falling apart way before Christianity was made the offical religion.
While Rome went through many hard times(stragely during the time when Christianity was rising in popularity) they were never in trouble until the time of Constantine. This is when people became overtaxed as the Church demanded more and more funds; this is when they began luring military officers away. This is the period when the Roman empire went from simply employing mercenaries to literally depending on them. You forget that even at the height of its empire, the Roman legions only numbered somewhere around 68,000. It was normal for Empires to employ loyal subject tribes or populations in their army.



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Yes the Ghibelline Middle Ages, was the age of solar christianity and civiling of North, West Europe ie Germania.etc But conflict between the Warrior Caste and Priest Caste toppled it, they should have blended the two in harmony instead like in India, it seems they where harmonized at the start when the pope and Emperor office where one. But then they split, and it became a literal solar vs lunar, that sowed the seeds of doom.
I do not think it was a mistake they chose to call it "Mother church." The spirit of the Crusade was not seen again in Europe till WW2 with the Waffen SS legions, and the nazi Crusade against the East, I thought a nazi like you would understand that. I stated that Christianity brought Romanization to the places of Europe where the pagan Roman sword could not. And helped to lay the ground for nations.

Yawn..... almost palpable nonsense.







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It was pagan Romans who burned it the frist time, the history of your holy pagan Romans is drenched in blood of millions, Caesar and his fellow pagan Romans alone killed a million Gauls, and enslaved millions more, and we know the pagan that burned the Alexandria libary. Tactius even wrote about a certain Germanic tribe that got lax, and was divided brutally by two other tribes.1700 years of Christian civilization has given the world advanced art, science and ethics.
The history of your holy Christian religion has far eclipsed the body count of the Roman empire, plus it has led the white race to the brink of destruction. It has always changed its values to fit the times in order to survive. When Hitler was coming to power and winning the war, he was a great crusader for Christ. But when the war started to go sour, suddenly Jesus didn't like Hitler any more and many ministers(mostly protestant turned on him). It is Christianity that recognizes millions upon millions of mixed race marriages, it was Christianity that turned "racism" into a moral "wrong", and it is now Christianity that is reaching out to embrace homosexuals. Christians throughout history even supported Communism at times when it suited them.








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Keep telling yourself that is how Hitler felt about the people he called a inferior lower race. So Hitler being pragmatic used the Slavics to help win in the East, but do not think he was a friend of the Slav's for it. The French had there Nergo's the English there Indian troops, and Hitler his Slavic's. Your race movement has remade Hitler in there image, not how he really was. As for the other European peoples who fought for Hitler, yes he was not going to turn there homelands into Spartan style state with them as the Helots. If anything it would have been like the Teutonic conquests. I say Slavic people are White, but your Hitler still said there where the mongrel, lower race of Europe. But the fact seems to make you upset like a child being told that Santa is not real.

Bad news Jesus, I KNOW MORE ABOUT HITLER THAN YOU. I know more about WWIII than you. That's the end of the story. Do you think I have NEVER HEARD that idiotic claim before? Every dumb fucker that can't debate me brings up that "Hitler hated Slavs" thing as though I've A. never heard that before, and B. it's nothing but an attempt to take the debate off topic when all it will really do is prove how little you know by the end. Like I said- tell your theory of gravity to Stephen Hawking. It would be no different. I have been in possession of 3rd Reich political propaganda on this subject as well as a copy of the infamous "Untermensch" magazine that started all this nonsense- check mate.

Stop talking about Hitler and admit that you are a complete failure.
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Your the one making up things that never happened. This isn't just an argument between you and me you know. Anybody reading this is going to see that I know far more about history than you.
You do like to tallk about ufo's alot, I will give you that..lol







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While Rome went through many hard times(stragely during the time when Christianity was rising in popularity) they were never in trouble until the time of Constantine. This is when people became overtaxed as the Church demanded more and more funds; this is when they began luring military officers away. This is the period when the Roman empire went from simply employing mercenaries to literally depending on them. You forget that even at the height of its empire, the Roman legions only numbered somewhere around 68,000. It was normal for Empires to employ loyal subject tribes or populations in their army.
Yes, the pagan empire rotted from within. Just like America is rotting right now.





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Yawn..... almost palpable nonsense.
Easy way out.lol











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The history of your holy Christian religion has far eclipsed the body count of the Roman empire, plus it has led the white race to the brink of destruction. It has always changed its values to fit the times in order to survive. When Hitler was coming to power and winning the war, he was a great crusader for Christ. But when the war started to go sour, suddenly Jesus didn't like Hitler any more and many ministers(mostly protestant turned on him). It is Christianity that recognizes millions upon millions of mixed race marriages, it was Christianity that turned "racism" into a moral "wrong", and it is now Christianity that is reaching out to embrace homosexuals. Christians throughout history even supported Communism at times when it suited them.
Hitler said he was a Catholic, as for the Catholic church the tactics it used where the same the pagan empire used but for a religious end instead of a secular end. There still are racialist Christians, and many men who fought for your Hitler where Christians too. Society today is more secular and it is pushing for the things you say Christianity soley is. This country had sound racial laws and christianity existed side by side. Do not blame Christianity because mammon bound wolves in sheep clothing have corrupted it. All levels of power are corrupted today. Christ said that a man can not serve two masters, mammon and the Lord. And there was clear warning all thought the Bible about corrupted power systems and against mulitcultualism. The ethics that Christ laided down in the Bible are sound for a in group morality. India,Greece and many other once Arya nations sunk into the abyiss and they where pagans.











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Bad news Jesus, I KNOW MORE ABOUT HITLER THAN YOU. I know more about WWIII than you. That's the end of the story. Do you think I have NEVER HEARD that idiotic claim before? Every dumb fucker that can't debate me brings up that "Hitler hated Slavs" thing as though I've A. never heard that before, and B. it's nothing but an attempt to take the debate off topic when all it will really do is prove how little you know by the end. Like I said- tell your theory of gravity to Stephen Hawking. It would be no different. I have been in possession of 3rd Reich political propaganda on this subject as well as a copy of the infamous "Untermensch" magazine that started all this nonsense- check mate.

Stop talking about Hitler and admit that you are a complete failure.
For a person that states to be a Bodhisattva you do not act like one, 90% of your debate is driven by pure egotism, and is just reactionary flaming. As a person who talks of the Mysterys you should know one of the main tests a person would go throught was designed to slay the false ego, for humility is the start of wisdom. If attitude is all it took you would be right. I used to think the same way as you on the matter of Hitler, till I read "My struggle" and the "Table Talks" book, and even Rosenberg's book was not too kindly to most of Europeans.
 
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You do like to tallk about ufo's alot, I will give you that..lol
That is essentially what you are doing with most of your historical claims.








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Yes, the pagan empire rotted from within. Just like America is rotting right now.
And your Christian nations have rotted from within.




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Easy way out.lol

Your claim did not merit a response.











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Hitler said he was a Catholic, as for the Catholic church the tactics it used where the same the pagan empire used but for a religious end instead of a secular end. There still are racialist Christians, and many men who fought for your Hitler where Christians too. Society today is more secular and it is pushing for the things you say Christianity soley is. This country had sound racial laws and christianity existed side by side. Do not blame Christianity because mammon bound wolves in sheep clothing have corrupted it. All levels of power are corrupted today. Christ said that a man can not serve two masters, mammon and the Lord. And there was clear warning all thought the Bible about corrupted power systems and against mulitcultualism. The ethics that Christ laided down in the Bible are sound for a in group morality. India,Greece and many other once Arya nations sunk into the abyiss and they where pagans.
Where is our society today? After 1700 years of Christianity it is almost collapsed. People like you will always say simple-minded things like "Well when everyone was Christian, we had racial laws, values, etc." That's all well and good- so how did all those Christian values turn into the decadent society we have today if they were so much better? We know that Paganism's collapse was due to a lack of social unity, an issue talked about at length by Savitri Devi in A Warning to the Hindus. Because Paganism failed to take into account certain social questions, the masses were ripe to believe in Christianity despite its clear spiritual inferiority.












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For a person that states to be a Bodhisattva you do not act like one, 90% of your debate is driven by pure egotism, and is just reactionary flaming. As a person who talks of the Mysterys you should know one of the main tests a person would go throught was designed to slay the false ego, for humility is the start of wisdom. If attitude is all it took you would be right. I used to think the same way as you on the matter of Hitler, till I read "My struggle" and the "Table Talks" book, and even Rosenberg's book was not too kindly to most of Europeans.
Oh WOW, you read Hitler's TABLE TALK!!! HOLY CRAP NOBODY'S EVER BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE! Nevermind the fact that the book's accuracy has been disputed by historians both mainstream and racial for a wide variety of reasons. Remember Table Talk is also the one where Hitler RAILS AGAINST CHRISTIANITY? It is not ego speaking when I say we are not equals on this topic. You're not going to impress me just because you read Mein Kampf and Table Talk. I have been studying the Third Reich's relations with Slavs for about 5 years now- to the point where I am tired of discussing it because of the all important fact that: HITLER IS DEAD!

Admit that if I were registered on this board as something like Aryanwarrior14/88/37/3.14 and didn't have a 14th SS crest as an avatar you would have never brought up the Slavic issue. Every dumb fuck who is losing a debate with me tries that tactic and they just end up looking more and more ignorant. Mission accomplished.


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