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Old June 11th, 2008 #61
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I know its off-topic and you are using it as an example Banjo but its interesting...

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It doesn't matter what the Jews know. It only matters what we know.
I would disagree; what the jews know is quite important you can find out a lot of useful stuff about jews by picking their minds about various subjects using the veneer of critical discussion saying you are 'simply offering a critical view'. There's some things about the 'caust that the very few jews who were real 'survivors' if you like (as in they actually were in the camps for a significant length of time) can tell you if you know how to handle them.

For example (an elderly Rabbi told a close friend); that the numerical tattoos were made by the SS because some jews tried to eat twice (or more) by giving the number of a recently deceased fellow inmate and hence the SS tattooed the number on so the jew couldn't do this in future (when they were caught). Many jews just had their number tattooed on soon after the war so they could be bona fide 'holocaust survivors' (there's even some allusions to this around the literature); others just invented their numbers and I've heard on Israeli radio (Israeli National Radio [the radio arm of Arutz Sheva]) that some young juden have had their parents/grandparents numbers tattooed onto them 'to relive jewish suffering'.

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Among the Jews who know that it is a fraud
I'd say this number is miniscule even just by sheer virtue of jewish psychology which almost purely Freudian and the 'caust itself is based on the Freudian concept of 'screen memory' (i.e. death/martyrdom is far more preferable to not being wanted and having no where to go to perform tikkum olam anymore).

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and the Jews who think the holohoax is real, you will find ALL JEWS promoting it as real.
Yes; but again it is degrees of promotion. There's a lot of disagreement within jewry about the role of 'caust and how it should be handled so to speak. The predominant attitude is the Ashkenazi one; which is a bit like a bull in a china shop and it is why they are actually one of the least successful strains of jewry (although this might seem incorrect; I believe I can prove my case pretty comprehensively). The Sephardis and the other more minor jewish sub-races tend to be much more subtle; dissenting from the Ashkenazi 'in your face' strategem (which they grew out of circa 2000 years ago following Bar Kochba and the less well known ancillary juden revolts).

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Those who claim it is a fraud are killed by the other Jews.
Not quite true; they tend to be 'dealt with' at varying levels with the JDL/JDO or 'lone Kahanist' being the active agent; it depends on the individual jew. Sometimes its just threats by the ADL/SWC/Chief Rabbinate/Beth Din/Rebbe etc; as in the case of Ariel Toaff [the book about Trent 1475], but in others it is full blown death threats which are carried out by Kahanites with tacit encouragement from the leaders of Diaspora jewry (nothing written down; but winks and nods are all ones needs). Very rarely do jews actually kill their own or even gentiles with their own hands since these are high risk public strategies which jews will; and historically have, generally avoid(ed).
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Yet another reason not to be a SF Sustaining Member, Derek Black becoming a mainline republican operative:

"By Jose Lambiet
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Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Did we witness the birth of a mini David Duke in West Palm Beach Tuesday night?
Derek Black, the 19-year-old son of former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard Don Black who's married to the former wife of white supremacist politician David Duke, won his first election Tuesday."

"He's now a Republican Party committeeman. His job is primarily to ensure that voters in District 29, which runs alongside Southern Boulevard east of Dixie, vote Republican."

Rest of article here:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/.../0827jose.html
 
Old August 28th, 2008 #63
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Yet another reason not to be a SF Sustaining Member, Derek Black becoming a mainline republican operative:

"By Jose Lambiet
Palm Beach Post Columnist
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Did we witness the birth of a mini David Duke in West Palm Beach Tuesday night?
Derek Black, the 19-year-old son of former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard Don Black who's married to the former wife of white supremacist politician David Duke, won his first election Tuesday."

"He's now a Republican Party committeeman. His job is primarily to ensure that voters in District 29, which runs alongside Southern Boulevard east of Dixie, vote Republican."

Rest of article here:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/.../0827jose.html

Very revealing indeed. A true White Nationalist does not support the raceless Republican party. Stormfront has been going in the wrong direction for a long time. The new Stormfront is a place where you can listen to Sean Hannity in the daytime and post on Stormfront at night. It is a place friendly to the fans of Michael Savage and Michelle Malkin.

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Old August 28th, 2008 #64
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Hhmmm.....what a coincidence. I just posted this thread: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=79036
 
Old August 28th, 2008 #65
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Very revealing indeed. A true White Nationalist does not support the raceless Republican party. Stormfront has been going in the wrong direction for a long time. The new Stormfront is a place where you can listen to Sean Hannity in the daytime and post on Stormfront at night. It is a place friendly to the fans of Michael Savage and Michelle Malkin.
Derrick isn't a bad kid. It seems his dad is still convinced they can infiltrate the Republican party. Of course, what they've become isn't anything the Republicans would outright shun at this point. It's only the stigma of the forum name they're associated with that may make infiltration necessary.

They can soften their rhetoric until they resemble the rainbow coalition and kwans still will not trust them.
 
Old August 31st, 2008 #66
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I'm a Stormfront sustaining member. I also give to the Council of Conservative Citizens and buy a lot of WN books to support continued printing. I pay about $50 a year to SF. I'd should start paying a membership fee to Linder as I'm on this board a lot now. I bought a dozen copies of D. Dukes work and also Kevin MacDonald.

If Don Black is a wealthy man because of SF I think that is great, his son secretly won an elected office recently and is very actively on SF radio. It is wonderful to know that some WN is getting wealthy out of his WN ideas, maybe it will spur other people to action.

We need more WN getting rich off the rest of us. That gives them time to poke a stick into a few Kosher eyeballs. More than worth the membership fee.
 
Old August 31st, 2008 #67
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Leave him alone, hes in training as a WN ski troop!
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Old August 31st, 2008 #68
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I'm a Stormfront sustaining member. I also give to the Council of Conservative Citizens and buy a lot of WN books to support continued printing. I pay about $50 a year to SF. I'd should start paying a membership fee to Linder as I'm on this board a lot now. I bought a dozen copies of D. Dukes work and also Kevin MacDonald.

If Don Black is a wealthy man because of SF I think that is great, his son secretly won an elected office recently and is very actively on SF radio. It is wonderful to know that some WN is getting wealthy out of his WN ideas, maybe it will spur other people to action.

We need more WN getting rich off the rest of us. That gives them time to poke a stick into a few Kosher eyeballs. More than worth the membership fee.
What is Don Black doing with the money? Isn't that the only important question?
 
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If he wants to stay in business he's going to have to start spending more on hardware and DDOS mitigation if the attacks keep up.

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Old September 1st, 2008 #70
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In my opinion VNN is much better designed and laid out than SF, VNN has an actual newspage that is separate from the forum, VNN has a separate media section whereas SF Radio is just tacked to the top of the forum page, which I find super tacky and to boot they don’t even archive their shows. VNN also had its look freshened up fairly recently whereas SF´s styling and design looked old a long time ago.


Considering what they allegedly receive in donations and fees, one would expect that they would have a much more sophisticated website, with a lot more to offer than just a forum.
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Old September 1st, 2008 #71
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If he wants to stay in business he's going to have to start spending more on hardware and DDOS mitigation if the attacks keep up.
So you are suggesting that the latest $1,000 from the SF 'Radio-a-thon' the weekend before last is going to hardware and DDoS mitigation? If so; where is your evidence and where is the visibility. Speculation is pretty pointless if you are only (and have only been) an SM; although as ex-Mod. I have seen a bit of the darker side of SF much less I might add than an Admin.

Perhaps you should ask for some visibility considering that Don is having these 'raising money' events quite frequently and is still raking in a considerable amount from sustaining members excluding private donations of course. I don't know how much Alex runs VNN on but I am pretty sure it is considerably less than Don's annual (or perhaps monthly) income from SF, which is pretty considerable (I'd have to dig out Aimee and Francis' calcs on that matter).

However here's some questions for you (since you seem so keen on defending an unscrupulous liar):

A) What does Don actually do all day? He's not posting on SF (on the Mod, SM or Main forums) that I can tell you (unless he's suddenly changed his behaviour in the last year which as far as I can see hasn't) and his radio shows are a rather recent invention (and they aren't worth listening to either; oh and they are only weekly as far as I remember [that does not equate 'very active']). He doesn't seem to write anything but rather seems to do nothing but occasionally pulls an all-nighter with DDoS problems.

B) What value-add does Don (or Kelso for that matter) as an individual give? If you are donating money to him then surely you must think he adds some kind of value somewhere. So where is it?

C) Where are these costs coming from? Where is Don's justification to you as a donor for the costs he has incurred? I mean surely that's the least he can do since you are giving him your money that you have presumably earnt.

As far as I can see Black is living off of his supposed past and that's about the sum of it. Even that past can easily be questioned when you subject Don's little story about 'Operation Red Dog' to the light of scrutiny. Duke isn't much better either but that's irrelevant to this thread.

I also have to question your ethics. You seem to think it is 'alright' or even 'good' that somebody earning apparently no independent income of their own. Unstintingly helps himself to the folks hard earned money, at a time when they most need it, to support himself on the pretext that he does a bit of webmaster work a few hours a week? Bear in mind that Don isn't exactly living in a cabin in the sticks here; there are folk out there who struggle to feed their families with both parents working and all but basic necessities cut off. Yet you applaud his getting fat off your back and not living frugally with clear financial visibility and donating everything else back into the folk... aren't you presumably supposed to be a Racialist? You know folk first and all that?

I wouldn't care about Black if he wasn't hurting the folk with his avarice and unscrupulous antics. Don is a con man: period.
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I recommend using the energy you spend tearing your own side down and put it to a more positive use.

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So you are suggesting that the latest $1,000 from the SF 'Radio-a-thon' the weekend before last is going to hardware and DDoS mitigation? If so; where is your evidence and where is the visibility. Speculation is pretty pointless if you are only (and have only been) an SM; although as ex-Mod. I have seen a bit of the darker side of SF much less I might add than an Admin.

Perhaps you should ask for some visibility considering that Don is having these 'raising money' events quite frequently and is still raking in a considerable amount from sustaining members excluding private donations of course. I don't know how much Alex runs VNN on but I am pretty sure it is considerably less than Don's annual (or perhaps monthly) income from SF, which is pretty considerable (I'd have to dig out Aimee and Francis' calcs on that matter).

However here's some questions for you (since you seem so keen on defending an unscrupulous liar):

A) What does Don actually do all day? He's not posting on SF (on the Mod, SM or Main forums) that I can tell you (unless he's suddenly changed his behaviour in the last year which as far as I can see hasn't) and his radio shows are a rather recent invention (and they aren't worth listening to either; oh and they are only weekly as far as I remember [that does not equate 'very active']). He doesn't seem to write anything but rather seems to do nothing but occasionally pulls an all-nighter with DDoS problems.

B) What value-add does Don (or Kelso for that matter) as an individual give? If you are donating money to him then surely you must think he adds some kind of value somewhere. So where is it?

C) Where are these costs coming from? Where is Don's justification to you as a donor for the costs he has incurred? I mean surely that's the least he can do since you are giving him your money that you have presumably earnt.

As far as I can see Black is living off of his supposed past and that's about the sum of it. Even that past can easily be questioned when you subject Don's little story about 'Operation Red Dog' to the light of scrutiny. Duke isn't much better either but that's irrelevant to this thread.

I also have to question your ethics. You seem to think it is 'alright' or even 'good' that somebody earning apparently no independent income of their own. Unstintingly helps himself to the folks hard earned money, at a time when they most need it, to support himself on the pretext that he does a bit of webmaster work a few hours a week? Bear in mind that Don isn't exactly living in a cabin in the sticks here; there are folk out there who struggle to feed their families with both parents working and all but basic necessities cut off. Yet you applaud his getting fat off your back and not living frugally with clear financial visibility and donating everything else back into the folk... aren't you presumably supposed to be a Racialist? You know folk first and all that?

I wouldn't care about Black if he wasn't hurting the folk with his avarice and unscrupulous antics. Don is a con man: period.
 
Old September 1st, 2008 #73
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I recommend using the energy you spend tearing your own side down and put it to a more positive use.
Don is a Confederate and a Judeo-Christian with an Old Timey Gospel Christian family. The Confederates were rich southerners who supported Non-White labor in White lands. Same as the Neocons today.

We need to start funding and sustaining White communities that put race above Jew worship.

If the White Race is to have more racial activists we need to cut completely free of the Jew Jesus Christ worship, the Old Timey Gospel Hour, the Confederate Non-White Labor support, and build strong White communities and nations.
 
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We need more people of our racial ideals running for office. What we need are 10,000 Derek Blacks or young David Dukes running for office to overwhelm the system and assert our power. You don't get your people anywhere by not supporting people that are trying to change things.

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Yet another reason not to be a SF Sustaining Member, Derek Black becoming a mainline republican operative:

"By Jose Lambiet
Palm Beach Post Columnist
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Did we witness the birth of a mini David Duke in West Palm Beach Tuesday night?
Derek Black, the 19-year-old son of former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard Don Black who's married to the former wife of white supremacist politician David Duke, won his first election Tuesday."

"He's now a Republican Party committeeman. His job is primarily to ensure that voters in District 29, which runs alongside Southern Boulevard east of Dixie, vote Republican."

Rest of article here:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/.../0827jose.html
 
Old September 1st, 2008 #75
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Disqualifying people from being useful to the movement based on their belief in Jesus is not in the best interests of white nationalism. The vast majority of WN are Christian. The majority of whites are Christian. There will never be a white nationalist atheist state so let's try to work together with others who have the same racial beliefs but different religious beliefs.

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Don is a Confederate and a Judeo-Christian with an Old Timey Gospel Christian family. The Confederates were rich southerners who supported Non-White labor in White lands. Same as the Neocons today.

We need to start funding and sustaining White communities that put race above Jew worship.

If the White Race is to have more racial activists we need to cut completely free of the Jew Jesus Christ worship, the Old Timey Gospel Hour, the Confederate Non-White Labor support, and build strong White communities and nations.
 
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Hitler certainly believed that.
 
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We need more people of our racial ideals running for office. What we need are 10,000 Derek Blacks or young David Dukes running for office to overwhelm the system and assert our power. You don't get your people anywhere by not supporting people that are trying to change things.
What does Derek Black have to do with White nationalism? His mother helps non-Whites, his father supports the Jewish AmRen, as does he. You think someone can help by joining the Jew-controlled Republican party? I bet you belong to AmRen.
 
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The vast majority of WN are Christian. The majority of whites are Christian.
The vast majority of WN put Race before any religion. The majority of Whites today are Atheists.

White racialism is focusing on race not Derek's Old Timey Gospel Hour, Amren's and Yggdrasil's Jewish Supremacism, or Chloe's Latrino Multicult school project. Fund SF and you fund Chloe's interracial project.
 
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The majority of whites are Christian. There will never be a white nationalist atheist state so let's try to work together with others who have the same racial beliefs but different religious beliefs.
360 million White Europeans disagree with you. France, Britain, Sweden could all be White majority nations without any Christian Jew Worship State Religion.

So lets try to work together.

Europe



"Eurostat poll on the social and religious beliefs of Europeans" (PDF). ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_225_report_en.pdf

The percentage of people in European countries who said in 2005 that they "believe there is a God".

According to the most recent relevant Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, in 2005, 48% of European Union citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 25% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 25% that "they do not believe there is a spirit, God, nor life force".

ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_225_report_en.pdf

France: According to a different poll, 32% declared themselves atheists, and an additional 32% declared themselves agnostic.

"Religious Views and Beliefs Vary Greatly by Country, According to the Latest Financial Times/Harris Poll". Financial Times/Harris Interactive (2006-12-20).

A Christian WN nation will never exist. Lets work together.
 
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Not that it matters but I believe there are 200+ million whites in North America that have been overlooked. Regardless, I won't get dragged into a Christian vs Atheist debate.

I would agree that there is no need for a state religion (or anti-religion). We have to get the maximum buy in from our people without alienating large groups so we can maintain some kind of genetic barrier...the other option is to embrace your negro great-grandchildren.

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360 million White Europeans disagree with you. France, Britain, Sweden could all be White majority nations without any Christian Jew Worship State Religion.

So lets try to work together.

Europe



"Eurostat poll on the social and religious beliefs of Europeans" (PDF). ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_225_report_en.pdf

The percentage of people in European countries who said in 2005 that they "believe there is a God".

According to the most recent relevant Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, in 2005, 48% of European Union citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 25% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 25% that "they do not believe there is a spirit, God, nor life force".

ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_225_report_en.pdf

France: According to a different poll, 32% declared themselves atheists, and an additional 32% declared themselves agnostic.

"Religious Views and Beliefs Vary Greatly by Country, According to the Latest Financial Times/Harris Poll". Financial Times/Harris Interactive (2006-12-20).

A Christian WN nation will never exist. Lets work together.
 
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