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Old April 16th, 2005 #41
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As the Islamo-Camel fuckers are slicing your throats and us Marines are defending your right to be Brainless Nazi Faggots you still won't get it. You are a disgrace to America and truly make up what is known as "trailer Trash" or "White Trash". Truly you are good for only one thing...Target practice.
We can only hope and do pray to see you on the battler field some day to make you wet your pants and beg for mercy.
Your all Cowardice little Pansies!
Welcome to America. My Country Not yours!
To sum that up, the Jew says we are trailer trash fit only for cannon fodder in Jew wars like Iraq and that the Jew owns America. Thanks for making our point for us Jew.
 
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fact: I have never contributed a cent to VNN;s tabloid Project. However I do contribute $$$$ from my income each year to a European national socialist party and undertake other active support. Do you?. If not, can I suggest that you quit your unproductive whining.
If you're in Europe I can understand why you wouldnt want to pitch into our efforts. Also I can understand how you would have more animus towards Muslims than we do, if you are over there.

But do me a favor and dont interject your opinion into these particular if you're choosing not to be involved. We wish you the best of luck saving Europa and we will try and do our best here. Thanks.
 
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Instead of basing your understanding of Jihad just on the works of those long-dead middle European white folk whose names raked up from the backshelf of obscurity fail to impress, why dont you quote Wagner's and the fantasy figure of Lohengrin's respective take on the Koran too?. Their relevance to the Koran and Jihad is the same as that of Belloc, Guenon and Evola (to whit, none),
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Are you not impressed or are you not informed?

Evola is certainly relevant to a proper understanding of Islam. Savitri Devi is good too. If you had read them perhaps you would know what I'm referring to. I've explained it plenty of time in other threads, I dont need to repeat it here.

As for Guenon, he actually moved to Egypt and became a Sufi, so he was pretty well informed as well. Oh, I would mention that he moved there when Nasser was employing Skorzeny and more than a handful of other NS alte kampfen to upgrade his armed forces. So you can snivel at the idea of an Aryan-Muslim collaboration against the Jew, but the historical precedents are there.
 
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.....The NA is a limited liability corporation incorporated under the laws of West Virginia, one of which is that board members appoint the chairman. Chairmen can't fire individual board members without a quorum of the board. Gliebe, it seems, did just that. With the SPLC, ADL and who knows what else watching and waiting for a chance to take down the NA, how did Gliebe get away with violating West Virginia laws? There are plenty of reasons to suspect that the NA was and remains to this day a false flag operation.
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Be pleased with the new magazine and Alex’s Internet radio interview, AE. Don’t consider them to be major “movement-building” accomplishments.

there were some things you said I agreed with and some I didnt, but pretty much all of them were offtopic to this thread. I would only point out to you that when you presume to lecture me about certain topics, perhaps you should get your facts straight ahead of time. To begin with, an LLC is not a corporation, so it cant be "incorporated" it is "formed." As far as I recall from my independent investigation from open sources, Resistance Records is the only one of the NA family of entities which is actually an LLC and the rest are corporations. I will not say more about those entities here because, again, it's beside the point. But dont be super-impressed with Maguire's apparent detective skills unless you are sure that the "facts" which he "uncovered" were actually accurate. He "uncovered" the matter of public record that Kitti was registered agent for one of these entities, and then irresponsibly suggested she was working for the federals because of her location. That was a smear and some of us havent forgotten it.

Anyhow, you and Giles keep doing your thing, it's good, just dont presume that you've hit upon the only way to skin a cat.
 
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Are you not impressed or are you not informed?

Evola is certainly relevant to a proper understanding of Islam. Savitri Devi is good too. If you had read them perhaps you would know what I'm referring to. I've explained it plenty of time in other threads, I dont need to repeat it here.

As for Guenon, he actually moved to Egypt and became a Sufi, so he was pretty well informed as well. Oh, I would mention that he moved there when Nasser was employing Skorzeny and more than a handful of other NS alte kampfen to upgrade his armed forces. So you can snivel at the idea of an Aryan-Muslim collaboration against the Jew, but the historical precedents are there.
I am informed, but I am not impressed. I am informed because my day job is in the middle east so have an understanding of the arab psyche.

Savitri Devi was a sad French woman who went native, dressing up in a dirty old Sari instead of making her own European French culture her reference point. If shewas a genuine indian I'd be impressed, as it is, she was a fake Indian, a white who pretended to be a Hindu 'paki'.

Enlightenment or insight on simple issues rarely comes from studying the obscure. Jean Paul Sartre may have written an existentialist volume on what a fried egg tastes like. Although you would undobtedly be in awe and quote Sartre or other pseud on that topic; those with a more direct approach would simply crack an egg and fry it to see what it tastes like; Empiricism is generally the more effective approach than remote interpretation.

As for NS alte kampfen I was raised ina NS community so I share your respect for them.
 
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Jean Paul Sartre may have written an existentialist volume on what a fried egg tastes like. Although you would undobtedly be in awe and quote Sartre or other pseud on that topic; those with a more direct approach would simply crack an egg and fry it to see what it tastes like;
Sartre actually wrote a book called 'Anti Semite and Jew.' I read some of it last year and from what I recall he echoed the communist party line concluding that anti-semitism was brought about in generally mentally unstable people due to envy and jealousy of jewish success and accomplishments.
 
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To see if I was mistaken and that maybe the wise figure of Rounder was after all better informed than I and correct; I asked a couple of old-time contacts in the sandy countries about whether they would be interested in discreetly donating some spare cash for the WN cause: these being Abdul Aziz Al Ghurair only a humble bank manager but at least Arab, and Abdulnabi Macki who is a mere civil servant ('Wazir') in a sand-filled country in which I have longtime contacts.

I mentioned that there was a good old boy called ‘Rounder’ who would help fight the wicked J**w., and would they both be interested in discreetly chipping in to subsidise a peaceful WN campaign from a remote way off?: They were quick to explain that fighting of any sort is not high on their (wealthy)Arab states agenda and the notion conflicts with their own nations respective vision of progress and development. Pluralism and the messy world of WN politics do not seem to enjoy any regional tradition, support nor cultural affinity with the arabs.

Cutting a long story short, both wealthy arabs in the ‘social sample’ questioned, felt that ‘Rounder’ was probably suffering from indulging in too much of what the arab calls ‘SalSal’ and with regrets their main investment just at the mo’ was to create a syndicate of three local groups to use up a few billion bucks of expendable investment income (these being AbdulAziz’s Mashreqbank, Emirates Bank International and ADCB Bank) to provide the required contracting finance for the consortium chosen to construct the latest iconic Burj (a social housing Tower block of sorts) valued at 3.2 billion Riyals and soon to become the world’s tallest building. Divide by 3.73 to convert its cost into ZOG$.

In the conversation I asked whether the Saudis might be sponsoring the well known David Irving the famous exposer of jewish holocaust lies. Coincidentally Macki knows of Irving - and I was informed that both are ‘near neighbours’ in London’s Mayfair district (Britain’s wealthiest Real Estate zone) where Macki’s boss the Sultan of Oman has his modest multi-story multistorey hundred room Regency Townhouse and where the not-very-poor Irving owns his own deluxe Mayfair property (guess where Irving’s money comes from to fund it.....from book sales and WN donations of course. And Arab money? - ask Irving)

The agreement to keep out of political shenanigans and WN shenanigans at that; which Abdulnabi and AbdulAziz as sample arabs both consider irrelevant, is driven by looking after their own independent way of life, reinforced with a link up; not with Whites in the uncivil sector of politics, but with Koreans (the Chae-bol Samsung) in the civil sector of commercial engineering.

Instead of wanting to dabble in supporting US WN (or any other WN groups including the old European ones which I support) AbdulAziz has hired contractor Samsung Corporation and its non-WN and non-white partners: Belhasa and other local company Arabtec Construction Llc. The syndicated investment will be shared equally by three banks, with my old chum Abdul Aziz humble clerk at Mashreqbank acting as facility agent and security agent - for aseatic Koreans not WN’s.

Arab cash ready and available for big multi million dollar investments?. Perhaps a new War on Israel?. Subverting ZOG bydirectaction?. Gun running to WN groups ?. Publishing a WN newspaper? or just raising morale by offering to buy a round of beers? Nope-aroo. Instead they are building a skyscraper set to become the world’s tallest structure and “an icon of vibrancy” for the new Mercedes driving, megawealthy, indifferent to WN politics, Arabs .

TheBurj tower (itz) a symbol as AbdulAziz put it “for the entire world to see that we have no desire in meddling in Western politics."

Well there you have it then. Arab oil states cash likely to be diverted from bettering themselves to better the Infidel instead? . Its not going to happen, ever, not when they can spend their money instead on bettering themselves .

Due for completion by end of 2008, the Tower will be the centrepiece of the 500-acre, $8 billion “Downtown Dubai’ development with a final height still shrouded in mist and rumours ranging from 700 to 900 metres - with not a single Arab petro-shekhel being likely to be cast in the direction of any WN. Except to those that get off their rear to go do an honest days work in the arab countries .

The Arab will fund Real Estate developments for arabs in their own countries, they will fund limitless construction of Mosques in the West, they will pay one-way tickets for Muslim asylum seekers from pakistan to go colonise the west; but give a shekhel to a WN?. Will the cash-rich arabs cast even a single ZOG$-linked petro-shekhel into the open paw of impoverished Infidel WN groups?.

SADLY NOT.
 
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To see if I was mistaken and that maybe the wise figure of Rounder was after all better informed than I and correct; I asked a couple of old-time contacts in the sandy countries about whether they would be interested in discreetly donating some spare cash for the WN cause: these being Abdul Aziz Al Ghurair only a humble bank manager but at least Arab, and Abdulnabi Macki who is a mere civil servant ('Wazir') in a sand-filled country in which I have longtime contacts.

I mentioned that there was a good old boy called ‘Rounder’ who would help fight the wicked J**w., and would they both be interested in discreetly chipping in to subsidise a peaceful WN campaign from a remote way off?: They were quick to explain that fighting of any sort is not high on their (wealthy)Arab states agenda and the notion conflicts with their own nations respective vision of progress and development. Pluralism and the messy world of WN politics do not seem to enjoy any regional tradition, support nor cultural affinity with the arabs.

Cutting a long story short, both wealthy arabs in the ‘social sample’ questioned, felt that ‘Rounder’ was probably suffering from indulging in too much of what the arab calls ‘SalSal’ and with regrets their main investment just at the mo’ was to create a syndicate of three local groups to use up a few billion bucks of expendable investment income (these being AbdulAziz’s Mashreqbank, Emirates Bank International and ADCB Bank) to provide the required contracting finance for the consortium chosen to construct the latest iconic Burj (a social housing Tower block of sorts) valued at 3.2 billion Riyals and soon to become the world’s tallest building. Divide by 3.73 to convert its cost into ZOG$.

In the conversation I asked whether the Saudis might be sponsoring the well known David Irving the famous exposer of jewish holocaust lies. Coincidentally Macki knows of Irving - and I was informed that both are ‘near neighbours’ in London’s Mayfair district (Britain’s wealthiest Real Estate zone) where Macki’s boss the Sultan of Oman has his modest multi-story multistorey hundred room Regency Townhouse and where the not-very-poor Irving owns his own deluxe Mayfair property (guess where Irving’s money comes from to fund it.....from book sales and WN donations of course. And Arab money? - ask Irving)

The agreement to keep out of political shenanigans and WN shenanigans at that; which Abdulnabi and AbdulAziz as sample arabs both consider irrelevant, is driven by looking after their own independent way of life, reinforced with a link up; not with Whites in the uncivil sector of politics, but with Koreans (the Chae-bol Samsung) in the civil sector of commercial engineering.

Instead of wanting to dabble in supporting US WN (or any other WN groups including the old European ones which I support) AbdulAziz has hired contractor Samsung Corporation and its non-WN and non-white partners: Belhasa and other local company Arabtec Construction Llc. The syndicated investment will be shared equally by three banks, with my old chum Abdul Aziz humble clerk at Mashreqbank acting as facility agent and security agent - for aseatic Koreans not WN’s.

Arab cash ready and available for big multi million dollar investments?. Perhaps a new War on Israel?. Subverting ZOG bydirectaction?. Gun running to WN groups ?. Publishing a WN newspaper? or just raising morale by offering to buy a round of beers? Nope-aroo. Instead they are building a skyscraper set to become the world’s tallest structure and “an icon of vibrancy” for the new Mercedes driving, megawealthy, indifferent to WN politics, Arabs .

TheBurj tower (itz) a symbol as AbdulAziz put it “for the entire world to see that we have no desire in meddling in Western politics."

Well there you have it then. Arab oil states cash likely to be diverted from bettering themselves to better the Infidel instead? . Its not going to happen, ever, not when they can spend their money instead on bettering themselves .

Due for completion by end of 2008, the Tower will be the centrepiece of the 500-acre, $8 billion “Downtown Dubai’ development with a final height still shrouded in mist and rumours ranging from 700 to 900 metres - with not a single Arab petro-shekhel being likely to be cast in the direction of any WN. Except to those that get off their rear to go do an honest days work in the arab countries .

The Arab will fund Real Estate developments for arabs in their own countries, they will fund limitless construction of Mosques in the West, they will pay one-way tickets for Muslim asylum seekers from pakistan to go colonise the west; but give a shekhel to a WN?. Will the cash-rich arabs cast even a single ZOG$-linked petro-shekhel into the open paw of impoverished Infidel WN groups?.

SADLY NOT.
Arab-Aryan cooperation terrifies you that much, huh?

Good !!! You make my case with your typically kike-a-like, anti-Arab jibberish.
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Savitri Devi was a sad French woman who went native, dressing up in a dirty old Sari instead of making her own European French culture her reference point. If shewas a genuine indian I'd be impressed, as it is, she was a fake Indian, a white who pretended to be a Hindu 'paki'.

Enlightenment or insight on simple issues rarely comes from studying the obscure. Jean Paul Sartre may have written an existentialist volume on what a fried egg tastes like. Although you would undobtedly be in awe and quote Sartre or other pseud on that topic; those with a more direct approach would simply crack an egg and fry it to see what it tastes like; Empiricism is generally the more effective approach than remote interpretation.

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Maybe Devi's Greek and French backround gave her a broader perspective which allowed here in turn to consider affinities between Hinduism and European culture? Are you also unimpressed by Revilo Oliver for his academic work on Sanskrit literature? Did that make him a fake Hindu for translating "A Little Clay Cart?" Too bad he earned himself a tenured position at Univ of Illinois which allowed him to spend the next forty years writing White Nationalist viewpoints and commentary of the highest quality!

As for Sartre, to me he is just another Marxist. I am little in awe of him although we did read Huis Clos in French class which I thought was a good play. I never was much interested in his philosophy.

Now about all these particulars. Wonderful. You're basically restating something that we all know already, which is that in general, very rich people at this time, dont give a shit about nationalist politics, period. That's as true for Arabs as it is of Koreans or Germans or anybody. Probably the only departure from that is Jews who find a way to keep their richy riches contributing to the welfare of the Tribe. I realize these are mere obscurities to you but if rise above your particulars for a minute and think of an answer to the problem feel free to share it. Meanwhile, allow us to engage in a some speculation hmmm?
 
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I respect your counter-opinions.

Tomorrow its the 11th day of Rabie Al’ Awal in the Muslims calendar and I guarantee that on that date not one of the worlds arabs, rich or poor, will donate a single Petro-shekhel to the WN cause, though ever-optimistic I can sound out local opinion, and ask.

Across the arab countries tomorrow, the Arabs will be issuing tonnes of Birthday cakes with a tally of 1,400 plus candles lit on each cholesterol packed confection; and they will conspicuously not be celebrating Hitler’s birthday.

Y'see itz an Arab public holiday tomorrow on occasion of the prophet Mohammed’s 1,4**th birthday; and once again Muslim self interest will take precedence over NS celebrations that will be held tomorrow to commemorate the birth of the Fuehrer.

Itz a coincidence that for this year, the very rare and unusual event of the Arabs Hejira date of 11th Rabie 1st 1,426H, coincides with Hitler’s birthday on the Gregorian 20th of April 2005: but will any Arabs give a dried fig or even donate a dried date for white national socialism? and contribute to NS funding and respect any WN need for donations? or any other forms of materiel and cash-focused $$$$ support?.

Much as we all may regret it guys, the Arab cash will never flow in the WN direction.
 
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Arab cash is being directed to the fast growing Arab population in Europe. The idea that they would fund a silly, small, incompetent group like Kreis and his AN splinter is just plain silly.

Why would they fund others if they can fund their own?
 
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/sch...umn/index.html

Aryan Nation leader reaches out to al Qaeda
SEBRING, Florida (CNN) -- A couple of hours up the road from where some September 11 hijackers learned to fly, the new head of Aryan Nation is praising them -- and trying to create an unholy alliance between his white supremacist group and al Qaeda.

Supremacist, Islamist connections
The idea of a Nazi-Islamic alliance dates back to World War II, when Adolf Hitler played host to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, that city's Muslim leader. Some Nazis, moreover, found refuge in places like Egypt and Syria after the war.

Three years ago, I met a Swiss Islamic convert named Ahmed Huber, who began his life as a devotee of Adolf Hitler and moved on to praising former Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, who led that nation's Islamic revolution and vigorously opposed U.S. policies.

Huber wanted to forge a fresh alliance between Islamic radicals and neo-Nazis in Europe and the United States. And he cannot be simply dismissed as a crackpot: Huber served on the board of directors of a Swiss bank and holding company that President Bush accused of helping fund al Qaeda.

Mark Potok, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, said that while some U.S. extremists applauded the September 11 attacks, there is no indication of such an alliance -- at least not yet, and not on a large scale. If it exists anywhere, he said, it is in the mind (and the Internet postings) of August Kreis.

For its part, the FBI says it hasn't seen any links between American white supremacists and groups like al Qaeda.

"The notion of radical Islamists from abroad actually getting together with American neo-Nazis I think is an absolutely frightening one," said Potok. "It's just that so far we really have no evidence at all to suggest this is any kind of real collaboration."

So while August Kreis may be calling, there is no sign that al Qaeda is listening.

But that hasn't stopped him. As we ended our interview, we asked Kreis if he had any message for Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants.

"The message is, the cells are out here and they are already in place," Kreis said. "They might not be cells of Islamic people, but they are here and they are ready to fight."
 
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Are you sure yah’ll want to form an alliance? Seem to me zog is already giving a helping hand or already have phony cell’s set up in luring WN.

Look; ZOG’s intrusion in the Middle East is draining the resources and manpower. The further they stay there the more folks back home will grow restless. Just like back in the Vietnam; after a decade of war and stalemate they had to pull out.
 
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Arab-Aryan cooperation terrifies you that much, huh?

Good !!! You make my case with your typically kike-a-like, anti-Arab jibberish.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something tells me you might not agree then?.

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On that last point, consensus at last between me and the arabs.....
 
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Unless these American Arabs are painfully naive, they should know that a successful campaign against America's Jews means they too will be rounded up (and, if necessary, beaten senseless with truncheons and deported at gunpoint) should WNs ever take control. Knowing that, why in holy fuck would they aid in their own dispossesion?

A riddle, itz!

I don't think so. If Arans fought with us, they would not be treated like niggers or jews. They would be treated as allies until victory, at which point our differences would be dealt with at a negotiating table.
 
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The leader of Dutch Islamists, Abdul-Jabbar van der Ven, is dutchman himself.
 
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In the Netherlands, the leader of the Islamists, Abdul-Jabbar van der Ven, is a dutchman himself.
 
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Well here is a very unique angle. Before I go any further, lets not clutter this thread with the "whose White" issue. There are a zillion places in VNN to do that
But when it comes to what you are proposing, well I have already done it, well sort of, but it is not quite the same thing. Again , just be patient and here me out before the flame fits.
You see the membership of my new WN organization, the Pan Aryan National Front, is roughly 25-30% White Iranian, White Berber, White (Anatolian) Turk, and White Near Eastern (Near Eastern means a non-Iranian, Turkish or Nerbrer White from the ME. These people generally speak Arabic, but are not Arabs, descending from Ancient Aryan and Crusader elements,and often but not always Christian).At any rate though the great bulk of the former group is Iranian and Berber. If you add the Albanians and Bosniaks, the figure goes above 45%
Now one thing you must understand is this. These people in my group do not view themselves as Semites or Arabs,but as Aryans as we are, though obviously different in someways as Scotsmen and Italians would be different. BUT in many cases more hostile to Arabs than anyone on this board. Most are Zoroastrian, Christian, Atheist with a few conservative non-fundy Moslems
They not only are willing to cooperate with WNs ,but far better ARE WNs
The problem is this. The Wahabbis and these guys might be allies on the anti-zionits thing, but thats is. My guys see them as Tazi who tried to destroy the Aryan presence in the ME,and its likely the Wahbbis would likely hate them more than they hate the Jews
But if WNs want support from the ME,its there.But not if you automatically write ALL of them off as Muds.The ones with me are not of the muddy persuasion and are not usually even practicing Moslems, but they are ready to fight with us if a bit of respect is shown
By that I dont mean you have to hop in the hay with them, just respect as Aryans. So there it is. Flame away if you wish, but it might profit you much more to at least check it out:

http://www.panf.info/upload/index.php?
 
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Hi diabloblanco92,

I've been checking your forum out regularly since you started it --- Good site. I just thought I'd say hi before the usual suspects whack you up side the head.

all the best,

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Hi diabloblanco92,

I've been checking your forum out regularly since you started it --- Good site. I just thought I'd say hi before the usual suspects whack you up side the head.

all the best,

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Thanks much and good to see you here brother!
 
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