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Old April 10th, 2006 #1
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So do it.

We need fresh talent.

TAA is important, but not top of my agenda. I have bigger fish to fry. I'm not drawing checks from the government, and I don't have a private pension. You can trust I'm working on what's most important for the cause.

Feel free to produce an issue and use the money collected to print it. Pass it to me, I'll proof it. Otherwise you can wait till I'm done. I will promise to do two issues a year, minimum. But that's about all I want to do, aside from proofing. I will set a deadline of June 30 for 4, and I will meet it. If that's not good enough, then do something about it with my full blessing.

I got out of print publishing for a reason. If I take the time to do TAA right, then I won't update the front page for two weeks, and people will bitch about that, and rightly so. It's a better use of my time to work on VNN. I don't need the hassle of maintaining expanding lists of subscribers, and $5 checks that cover costs. It's just multiplying work and taking up space and time I don't have.

WN has to get beyond chattering. We have some good folks, and we have people willing to put out some money. We need talent - is it there? Where are the organizers and leaders?
 
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So do it.

We need fresh talent.

TAA is important, but not top of my agenda. I have bigger fish to fry. I'm not drawing checks from the government, and I don't have a private pension. You can trust I'm working on what's most important for the cause.

Feel free to produce an issue and use the money collected to print it. Pass it to me, I'll proof it. Otherwise you can wait till I'm done. I will promise to do two issues a year, minimum. But that's about all I want to do, aside from proofing. I will set a deadline of June 30 for 4, and I will meet it. If that's not good enough, then do something about it with my full blessing.

I got out of print publishing for a reason. If I take the time to do TAA right, then I won't update the front page for two weeks, and people will bitch about that, and rightly so. It's a better use of my time to work on VNN. I don't need the hassle of maintaining expanding lists of subscribers, and $5 checks that cover costs. It's just multiplying work and taking up space and time I don't have.
Thanks for following my advice (from last year)!

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WN has to get beyond chattering. We have some good folks, and we have people willing to put out some money. We need talent - is it there? Where are the organizers and leaders?
Look, I want to do whatever I can. Unfortunately, I'm not much of a writer. Or a leader. Most folks here aren't either, apparently.

-OR-

Maybe you need to get to know some of these people, any who you suspect might have abilities you're looking for. Have you appealed to any, personally? Get specific with what you think is needed. Come up with actual job titles and descriptions. Provide as much 'official' infrastructure as you can. Then, if you get no responses, contact people and 'offer them a job'. Also, try to come up with some organizational plans that are adaptable for 'employees' who already have regular (income producing) jobs. I'll bet that many people have talents they aren't aware of. It might take someone like you to see their abilities. Tell them!

Whatever you do, recognize that you're the leader of this operation. Delegate!

That's all I can come up with for now.
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So do it.

We need fresh talent.

TAA is important, but not top of my agenda. I have bigger fish to fry. I'm not drawing checks from the government, and I don't have a private pension. You can trust I'm working on what's most important for the cause.

Feel free to produce an issue and use the money collected to print it. Pass it to me, I'll proof it. Otherwise you can wait till I'm done. I will promise to do two issues a year, minimum. But that's about all I want to do, aside from proofing. I will set a deadline of June 30 for 4, and I will meet it. If that's not good enough, then do something about it with my full blessing.

I got out of print publishing for a reason. If I take the time to do TAA right, then I won't update the front page for two weeks, and people will bitch about that, and rightly so. It's a better use of my time to work on VNN. I don't need the hassle of maintaining expanding lists of subscribers, and $5 checks that cover costs. It's just multiplying work and taking up space and time I don't have.

WN has to get beyond chattering. We have some good folks, and we have people willing to put out some money. We need talent - is it there? Where are the organizers and leaders?
Thanks, Alex! We needed to know that you got out of print publishing. I'll talk to Glenn about putting together an issue, concentrating on the current hot-button issue of the non-White invasion of the U.S., and it won't take until June 30th to get it printed and distributed. I used to be editor of Ben Klassen's Racial Loyalty tabloid back in 1988-'89 and know how to put together a tabloid in a couple of weeks. There will be a thread devoted to submissions of artwork and articles but the talent will be gathered off the board and given deadlines. You can concentrate on writing and doing whatever else you think is best and leave this light work to me and Glenn and all the others who are biting at the bit. We'll pull it together for you and you'll like what you see. There are plenty of capable organizers and leaders. They simply need to be pointed toward the enemy and given something to do.
 
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Thanks, Alex! We needed to know that you got out of print publishing. I'll talk to Glenn about putting together an issue, concentrating on the current hot-button issue of the non-White invasion of the U.S., and it won't take until June 30th to get it printed and distributed. I used to be editor of Ben Klassen's Racial Loyalty tabloid back in 1988-'89 and know how to put together a tabloid in a couple of weeks. There will be a thread devoted to submissions of artwork and articles but the talent will be gathered off the board and given deadlines. You can concentrate on writing and doing whatever else you think is best and leave this light work to me and Glenn and all the others who are biting at the bit. We'll pull it together for you and you'll like what you see. There are plenty of capable organizers and leaders. They simply need to be pointed toward the enemy and given something to do.
Will, there's nobody more capable of putting together a WN tabloid newspaper than you. And there are few WNs more trusted. So take charge !!!

Thanks Alex, for delegating. Will will amaze us all. Mark my words.
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Thanks, Alex! We needed to know that you got out of print publishing. I'll talk to Glenn about putting together an issue, concentrating on the current hot-button issue of the non-White invasion of the U.S., and it won't take until June 30th to get it printed and distributed. I used to be editor of Ben Klassen's Racial Loyalty tabloid back in 1988-'89 and know how to put together a tabloid in a couple of weeks. There will be a thread devoted to submissions of artwork and articles but the talent will be gathered off the board and given deadlines. You can concentrate on writing and doing whatever else you think is best and leave this light work to me and Glenn and all the others who are biting at the bit. We'll pull it together for you and you'll like what you see. There are plenty of capable organizers and leaders. They simply need to be pointed toward the enemy and given something to do.
Good news! I don't want all the contributors to be disappointed. I fully support you Will in getting together TAA4 and it looks like we can pass it by Alex once it's ready for print for his blessing. However, we need to pull all that subscription stuff and make the readers know that from now on it will be published if at all on an ad hoc basis. I can totally understand why Alex doesnt want to worry about keeping track of subscribers and it's really not worth the time and trouble for any of us. But let's give the contributors a great issue that they can be proud to receive and distribute!

I hope Will can get some of these former NA talents like Jenab and Hadding to chip in too considering that their skills have languished since being shown the door elsewhere.

Let's git er done!
 
Old April 11th, 2006 #6
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:cheers: A big thank you to White Will for stepping up to the plate. I cannot wait to see what you and Rounder publish. Having met and talked to both of you, I know it will be top notch and appeal to the White middle class. I'd bet my last dollar that nothing like "Shit Magnet" will take up any space.

With warm weather it will be a pleasant task distributing thousands of TAAs to folks here in Virginia. I've signed on for 10,000 TAAs.
 
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Good luck at the helm, Captain!

We'll help out anyway we can.

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Old April 12th, 2006 #8
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Thanks for the update, Alex.

Will, that's truly outstanding news. I will assist in any way that I can.

Has Rounder closed the books on TAA#4, or are we still donating for that issue?
 
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Thanks for the update, Alex.

Will, that's truly outstanding news. I will assist in any way that I can.

Has Rounder closed the books on TAA#4, or are we still donating for that issue?
The books won't be closed on TAA 4 until we've run out of copies of that edition.

No monies in my PO box yesterday for TAA Fund, btw.
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:cheers: A big thank you to White Will for stepping up to the plate. I cannot wait to see what you and Rounder publish. Having met and talked to both of you, I know it will be top notch and appeal to the White middle class. I'd bet my last dollar that nothing like "Shit Magnet" will take up any space.

With warm weather it will be a pleasant task distributing thousands of TAAs to folks here in Virginia. I've signed on for 10,000 TAAs.
Well now SA Mann, since you've met me and Will, you oughta mentioned I'm the youngest looking, and the most handsome. (he he he he)

On a serious note though, it's mighty white of ya to volunteer to distribute 10,000 more TAAs. That's one hell of a "whack" at Hymie, Julio, and Jaamal.

As regards subcriptions, perhaps Will will decide to accept them even though it's a pain in the butt. Course, it's up to him.

The huge controversy surrounding the illegal alien problem will cause Whitey to be far more receptive to TAA now and in future. And I'm confident we'll all be highly amazed by the results and responses generated by White Will's TAA 4.

Will, I'm standing by to help in any way I can, including of course, making my usual trip to printers and hauling 22,000 TAAs which is my truck's maximum capacity. Rounder never, ever drops the ball.

Sieg Heil !!!
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TAA is important, but not top of my agenda. I have bigger fish to fry. I'm not drawing checks from the government, and I don't have a private pension. You can trust I'm working on what's most important for the cause.
This was a really smart move on your part. I never figured out why you jumped head first into print from the internet when the print media itself is rushing to the internet. That makes no sense. The new blog interface on your frontpage is another good idea. It's far more cost effective for one. Blogs like Instapundit and DailyKos have a circulation larger than many mainstream newspapers and magazines. Forums like Free Republic raise hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you have limited means and really want to reach people, then blogs, forums, websites, and radio are obviously the way to go.

The internet was always your base. Indeed, the only reason you were able to launch and finance TAA in the first place was because your website and forum allowed disconnected racial dissidents to connect with each other. Why do you keep TGM around? He doesn't know what he is doing. He whines and moans about how "anonymous internet typists" are do nothing cowards (in effect, demoralizing your supporters), but it ultimately doesn't matter how an idea reaches people or who transmits it. You could call yourself Elvis Presley or Santa Claus. It wouldn't make the slightest difference if you are able to reach people and convince them that you are right. Finally, if you really want to contact people who are not being reached over the internet, why not simply call them at home? Their telephone numbers can be found in any phone book.
 
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This was a really smart move on your part. I never figured out why you jumped head first into print from the internet when the print media itself is rushing to the internet. That makes no sense. .
Heh, as if Linder doesn't have enough troubles, now 'himself has Fade on his team. Hey, maybe VNN could start a new show in place of Goyfire. Call it the Crass and Ass show.
 
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Heh, as if Linder doesn't have enough troubles, now 'himself has Fade on his team. Hey, maybe VNN could start a new show in place of Goyfire. Call it the Crass and Ass show.
LOL. It is indeed odd that Fade hops in Alex's corner at this hour.

I want to emphasize though, I actually agree with most of Fade's points. I have no axe to grind against Rounder, and all along I have withheld my criticisms against the TAA (I didn't want to rain on anyone's parade during the apparent excitement), but I always quietly believed the future was Internet. Why anyone would think otherwise is beyond me. I guess it feels safer to be behind the curve instead of in front of it.

Believe it or not, the phone calling tactic has been tried. A guy named Ryan Wilson had a little group called "Alpha" about ten years ago, and he promoted it in his area using several auto-dialing phones. At the time, that created quite a stir among the "hate"-watching set.

I did the drive-by lit(t)erature thing for a few years back. There is little empirical data on its effectiveness. I believe Pringle once said he got something like three inquiries on ten thousand tosses. Myself and another guy got a main story on the evening news of the local TV station for about two thousand (IIRC) tosses. That was fun, I guess.
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Well now SA Mann, since you've met me and Will, you oughta mentioned I'm the youngest looking, and the most handsome. (he he he he)

On a serious note though, it's mighty white of ya to volunteer to distribute 10,000 more TAAs. That's one hell of a "whack" at Hymie, Julio, and Jaamal.

I'm staying away from a Green Berets beauty contest (just kidding). I'd hate to get my ass handed to me by a couple of near senior citizens. All kidding aside, Glenn Miller and Will Williams have done and continue to do so much for the White race.

I'll have to get with Ron Doggett concerning plans to haul TAAs up to Virginia. My truck will safely haul around 15,000 copies. It's been mentioned having them shipped to Ron as that would be more cost effective. Also my offer still stands to help you out as a clerk on the East Coast.:cheers:
 
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This was a really smart move on your part. I never figured out why you jumped head first into print from the internet when the print media itself is rushing to the internet. That makes no sense.
Yes, the internet is the future, however the TAA at this point in time and until the public’s transition from one media medium to the other is complete, print tabloids do indeed make that sorely needed bridge to bring in readers onto the blogs and forums. There are no other practical venues open to WN, the jew has seen to that. I think that Alex is astute enough to mete-out the proper emphasis and to delegate the correct measure of resources to each for a smooth transition as we go forward.

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The new blog interface on your frontpage is another good idea. It's far more cost effective for one. Blogs like Instapundit and DailyKos have a circulation larger than many mainstream newspapers and magazines. Forums like Free Republic raise hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you have limited means and really want to reach people, then blogs, forums, websites, and radio are obviously the way to go.
This is right, but why do you still insist on believing-in the bogus world of politics in this artificial world created by the jew? I say this, because those blogs mentioned are just that, contrived opposition designed to draw attention away from authentic White issues. The circulation you tout here says nothing. The National Enquirer has a beefy circulation as well. So What! They are all ultimately tied to that jewy premise of profit for the sake of profit. White Nationalism’s real attraction comes from the fact that our ideals aren’t for sale. And they aren’t to be made into a jewish commercial venture. Any attempt to steer in that direction will lose the WN right wing and those who will ultimately be responsible for getting our ass out of this jam. The TAA is a labor of love, dedicated to White people and that is why there are those willing to get involved for no compensation. This concept is alien to the jew, but not to us. To us, it is everything.

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The internet was always your base. Indeed, the only reason you were able to launch and finance TAA in the first place was because your website and forum allowed disconnected racial dissidents to connect with each other.
This is right.

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Why do you keep TGM around? He doesn't know what he is doing. He whines and moans about how "anonymous internet typists" are do nothing cowards (in effect, demoralizing your supporters), but it ultimately doesn't matter how an idea reaches people or who transmits it. You could call yourself Elvis Presley or Santa Claus. It wouldn't make the slightest difference if you are able to reach people and convince them that you are right. Finally, if you really want to contact people who are not being reached over the internet, why not simply call them at home? Their telephone numbers can be found in any phone
Why do you ask a provocative question like this and then go on challenging his personal choice of associates? It’s as if your calling Linder an idiot.

And as far as using the phone to spread the word, the jew telemarketers have done a good job pissing people off with that technology, so much so, that many state governments have past laws to stop that invasive form of marketing or seriously limited it’s ability to reach people. Maybe the jew put those laws in place just to fuck with us?
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I'm staying away from a Green Berets beauty contest (just kidding). I'd hate to get my ass handed to me by a couple of near senior citizens. All kidding aside, Glenn Miller and Will Williams have done and continue to do so much for the White race.

I'll have to get with Ron Doggett concerning plans to haul TAAs up to Virginia. My truck will safely haul around 15,000 copies. It's been mentioned having them shipped to Ron as that would be more cost effective. Also my offer still stands to help you out as a clerk on the East Coast.:cheers:
Thanks for volunteering your truck and time, SA Mann. We'll coordinate hauling TAAs when Will gives us the word. You might consider trying to find a willing printer in your area, though you probably won't have any luck.
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Thanks for volunteering your truck and time, SA Mann. We'll coordinate hauling TAAs when Will gives us the word. You might consider trying to find a willing printer in your area, though you probably won't have any luck.

I doubt Will is going to be working on TAA, Glenn.

We (VNNF) seem to have had a bit of a meltdown.
 
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We (VNNF) seem to have had a bit of a meltdown.
What is that? Number 5?
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LOL. It is indeed odd that Fade hops in Alex's corner at this hour.

I want to emphasize though, I actually agree with most of Fade's points. I have no axe to grind against Rounder, and all along I have withheld my criticisms against the TAA (I didn't want to rain on anyone's parade during the apparent excitement), but I always quietly believed the future was Internet. Why anyone would think otherwise is beyond me. I guess it feels safer to be behind the curve instead of in front of it.

Believe it or not, the phone calling tactic has been tried. A guy named Ryan Wilson had a little group called "Alpha" about ten years ago, and he promoted it in his area using several auto-dialing phones. At the time, that created quite a stir among the "hate"-watching set.

I did the drive-by lit(t)erature thing for a few years back. There is little empirical data on its effectiveness. I believe Pringle once said he got something like three inquiries on ten thousand tosses. Myself and another guy got a main story on the evening news of the local TV station for about two thousand (IIRC) tosses. That was fun, I guess.
The internet might be "the future", but the future ain't here yet. And less than half of White adults are proficient with computers. In the South, it's probably less than one third. And most computer literates also read newspapers. The jews and their PC gentile whores crank out tens-of-millions of newspapers every freakin day. So shut the hell up about newspapers not working.

TAA resulted in at least 300 TV, radio, or newspaper reports, coast to coast; many dozens of interviews of me or Alex, including 3 one-hour radio talk show invites in which I spoke uncensored to hundreds of thousands; VNN'ers uncensored letters-to-editors that would not have been printed except for TAA distributions; TV interviews in my home, plus many dozens via phone, that were broadcasted. And our website and my home phone number were advertised FREE via dozens of system newspapers inside LTEs and system news reportings. Resulting in 300-400 phone calls to me, and by way of emails to Alex. None of this would have happened without TAA and our loyal contributors and distributors. And without TAA, VNNF would be little more than a book club for anonymous, pointy-headed, intellectual do-nothings, and not the forum for WN ACTIVISTS it's become.

Yes, we'll use the internet to our maximum extent. But we'll also use TAA, our printed media as an additional weapon, and to reach those we're unable to reach on the net.

The illegal alien nightmare is awakening millions of Whites. And they're starting to voice their outrage publicly. This means they'll be far more receptive to TAA's than ever before.

TAA has already been a huge success, and at only 8 cents per copy to print, is super cost effective in EXPOSING THE GD KIKES, and properly educating White folks about jews being responsible for American's racial nightmares. TAA will not only continue to be successful, it will become even more successful, thanks mainly to ZOG's inevitable legalizations of tens-of-millions of illegal aliens, which is THE wake up call for White Americans.

Those who criticise TAA or question TAA's value and effectiveness are either subversives or misguided, non-thinking idiots.

Hail TAA !!!
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The internet might be "the future", but the future ain't here yet. And less than half of White adults are proficient with computers. In the South, it's probably less than one third. And most computer literates also read newspapers. The jews and their PC gentile whores crank out tens-of-millions of newspapers every freakin day. So shut the hell up about newspapers not working.
Did you read what I said? I didn't say they didn't work. They do work given enough effort. I was only trying to point out that the return-on-investment is very low compared to that of Internet projects. Not only because of the costs of production but also because it's easier to advertise and easier to be to more targeted with marketing (e.g. posting links on conservative forums where you are somewhat more likely to find a sympathetic audience). Also, the Internet is capable is supporting multimedia works such as TLITS. Printed lit is not.

I agree with Fade on this one. The main task of politics is to spread ideas, not to badger people and call them cowards and so forth. The Internet is the most efficient idea-spreading mechanism ever devised by man.

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Yes, we'll use the internet to our maximum extent. But we'll also use TAA, our printed media as an additional weapon, and to reach those we're unable to reach on the net.
No argument. I do not criticize the newspapers as an additional weapon, nor do I criticise people who want to distribute newspapers like yourself.

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Those who criticise TAA or question TAA's value and effectiveness are either subversives or misguided, non-thinking idiots.

Hail TAA !!!
Calling people with whom you appear to disagree subversives or idiots is not helpful.
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