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Old April 23rd, 2019 #1
ColdFire
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Default A personal debate I'd like to have with Ray Allan

Ray,

you're one of my closest associates here ( you sometimes seem to have an 'abonnement' on my threads ) . .

I notice you are very critical of American society and seem to oppose the state ( your threads about the miltary ( or 'the green niggers' as you call them , heehee . To say nothing about 'the blue niggers' , lol ! ) ) . .

It is a cliche that so-called 'right-wingers' are not as critical of the state as so-called 'left-wingers' (who are nwo-puppets anyway in the way that the NWO even until today is still hoping for their 'world revolution' . .)

But I think you can also be a 'right-winger' and oppose the state . .

. . be against the system as such . .

What would your ideal look like . .?

Arguments against our military can be for example found in the fact that they are more or less mercenaries for Wall Street instead of serving us . .

I have to say that also their behaviour sucks from time to time ( raiding nations for the nwo , raping , war crimes , all in the name of the almighty dollar . . . )

You know , there was a time when wars were , believe it or not ,still more or less fought among those who instigated it truly ( for a long time it was the task of European nobility to fight wars ; later they became decadent ( with the help of the NWO and their inflitration . . .) )



The fact that people fought for money already came with the Thirty Years' War times when mercenaries replaced the old ways . .

It went over Napoleon who let ordinary people fight . .

The NWO had a hand in Napoleon ...

Thus far concerning military. .

You already voiced your opinion about the po-lice in other threads. .

The way to an "ideal society" may be tough

But from what I know from your posts you are very critical . .

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I also happen to know that you live in Nevada. .

lol . . hypothetical :

If the rumours about 'Area 51' are true and 'they' are already amongst us . .






. . would you be opposed to them taking you 'somewhere else' . .?

Maybe a planet with 'a better social system' . .?



lol . . please do not take that question too serious though.

So . . in the end . .

- since you happen to be a Caucasian-American , how do you view American society as such . .?

What's your opinion on 'blind patriotism' as it's called , conservatism and such . .?


Lot of stuff , I admit . .

And then I always thought it was the Rays who had the 'big words' . . .


. . Just kiddin' pal . .

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Old April 24th, 2019 #2
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Let me ask you a question, ColdFire--how do you feel about u.s troops still occupying your country nearly 75 years after the Second World War ended? And that the 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland' is a creation of the Allied occupation government? No treaty of peace was ever signed between the American and German governments after the war either, only the unconditional surrender of the Wehrmacht to the Allied armies in 1945. Technically, the Deutsches Reich is the still the legitimate government, even though it isn't functioning right now.

I think it's pretty self-explanatory why I am critical of KWA society and its armed enforcement organs, i.e. police and military. You have read my critical and mocking posts about the so-called green niggers and what they do around the world, right? I detest what they have become and what they are doing in mine and every other Americans' name, operating as enforcers, mercenaries and collection agents for international jewry; the same tribe of hook-nosed parasites that has hijacked the government of my country, its economic system, media and nearly every other aspect of society. I detest that I am forced to support via extortion (taxes) their murderous and wasteful wars and other disgusting, destructive activities all over the planet. If you haven't read it already, take a look at War Is A Racket, by Gen. Smedley Butler, written in the 1930s. And they disposed of him pretty quickly after that.

I realize the U.S. Constitution is a quant, meaningless scrap of paper to the NWO scum, but this country wasn't even meant to have a standing army in peacetime (Article I, Section 8), only a militia. Since there has only been about 16 years of actual peace in this country's 243-year history, I guess that's their excuse. In my opinion, the last legitimate war the u.s. fought was the War of 1812 to repel a British invasion of the country.

So "blind patriotism" is another name for what we call patriotardism here on VNNF. "My cuntry, right or wrong." True patriotism is calling out the bastards in government when they are fucking up or fucking with us. Conservatism is a cowardly, raceless and worthless ideology--conservatives have conserved nothing. We just keep losing. Were George Washington and Adolf Hitler conservatives? No, they were revolutionaries.

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. . would you be opposed to them taking you 'somewhere else' . .?

Maybe a planet with 'a better social system' . .?
I understand the Pleiadians have a nice planet and they are attractive-looking people. That's one of their spaceships in the photo you posted... let's ask Billy Meier.
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Old April 24th, 2019 #3
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Ray,
how I view the U.S. . .

It is a Caucasian country first and foremost . .Part of my race . .

Concerning the US's policies . . What is true is that the US or rather , its government , is busy fighting wars for the NWO . .

That just proves the stronghold the NWO has over it.

Even if you feel no sympathy for people of other races , the sheer amount of European-American "soldiers" who are fueled for these wars . .

I think the last wars which benefitted the American people were the wars against Mexico . .

Yes , as "long back" as that. .

These wars were fought for race (Mexico is a neighbouring country to the U.S. comprised of another race ( in the case of Mexico mostly Mestizo) ) . .

Since WW1 ( into which the U.S. was tricked ) ONLY "world police"-wars . ..
 
Old April 24th, 2019 #4
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Let me ask you a question, ColdFire--how do you feel about u.s troops still occupying your country nearly 75 years after the Second World War ended? And that the 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland' is a creation of the Allied occupation government? No treaty of peace was ever signed between the American and German governments after the war either, only the unconditional surrender of the Wehrmacht to the Allied armies in 1945. Technically, the Deutsches Reich is the still the legitimate government, even though it isn't functioning right now.

I think it's pretty self-explanatory why I am critical of KWA society and its armed enforcement organs, i.e. police and military. You have read my critical and mocking posts about the so-called green niggers and what they do around the world, right? I detest what they have become and what they are doing in mine and every other Americans' name, operating as enforcers, mercenaries and collection agents for international jewry; the same tribe of hook-nosed parasites that has hijacked the government of my country, its economic system, media and nearly every other aspect of society. I detest that I am forced to support via extortion (taxes) their murderous and wasteful wars and other disgusting, destructive activities all over the planet. If you haven't read it already, take a look at War Is A Racket, by Gen. Smedley Butler, written in the 1930s. And they disposed of him pretty quickly after that.

I realize the U.S. Constitution is a quant, meaningless scrap of paper to the NWO scum, but this country wasn't even meant to have a standing army in peacetime (Article I, Section 8), only a militia. Since there has only been about 16 years of actual peace in this country's 243-year history, I guess that's their excuse. In my opinion, the last legitimate war the u.s. fought was the War of 1812 to repel a British invasion of the country.

So "blind patriotism" is another name for what we call patriotardism here on VNNF. "My cuntry, right or wrong." True patriotism is calling out the bastards in government when they are fucking up or fucking with us. Conservatism is a cowardly, raceless and worthless ideology--conservatives have conserved nothing. We just keep losing. Were George Washington and Adolf Hitler conservatives? No, they were revolutionaries.








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I understand the Pleiadians have a nice planet and they are attractive-looking people. That's one of their spaceships in the photo you posted... let's ask Billy Meier.
I used to read about Billy Meier's (alleged) encounters with extraterrestrials when I was a teenager. Fascinating stuff.
 
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