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Old April 8th, 2019 #1
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. . now, those of you who read my posts may know that I take quite a liberal position on Hip Hop ( according to my research the style behind Hip Hop ( rhythmic rhyming ) is not negroid in origin but rather stolen from us ( althrough Aryan history that style was present , from the flyting of the old Norse people to the 'Beatnik'-poetry of the 1960s ) ) as far as the music is concerned ( not the groids who do it ) but . . 'Gangsta Rap' ?

Why the hell is this so popular today . .?

The messages in it : Hate against our race , riot and so on ..

Now , not that I'm in favor of the coppers ( those of you who read my posts may know that too ) but these people talk nothing but hate against our system ..

It has become the tune of the black underclass in our nation . .


. . in fact it has become the tune of every underclass of foreigners in our nations , if they embrace it . .

Most of it is blaming our race "for everything" , "so go kill honkies , crackers" . .

Wow. . .

Why the hell does music with this message have such a huge market . .?

"Rioting ,killing crackers". .

Guess the NWO is behind that again . .

Music sure is a huge weapon . .

Why is music by blacks always filled with such degeneracy . .?

It started with black Rock 'n Roll singers in the 1950s over to the 'psychadelic' , drug-infested noise by Jimmy Hendrix to today ..

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What's your take on the music referred to as 'Gangsta Rap' ?


 
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Brother, you know that I am quite fond of White rap music like you do.

As for Black gangsta rap, I think it's pure filth produced by the NWO to incite riots and racial hatred of Whites.

You can't even go to a frickin grocery store without hearing that degenerate garbage these days..

Negro Rap music actually promotes Jewish values (misogyny, psychopathy, narcissism, materialism), combined with the Negro's animalistic nature.

The lyrics are written and music is produced by NWO Jews.
Nothing poetical, philosophical or spiritual about it. Unlike Aryan ones.
Just a bunch of rhyming words.
It's all flesh. it's very primitive.
No Black rap love songs. just sex songs.

The situation we're in would also be better if there was no pornography or Black Rap music.

The role of Black Rap music in rape and murder of our people cannot be overlooked..

Blacks are too stupid to distinguish Jews from us. they are too stupid to realize they are being used as a weapon of Jews against us.

Due to their low IQs, they wouldn't be much of a threat to us once the NWO is destroyed.

We can peacefully send them back to Africa.


The anti-White racism has to end.
The system has to be smashed.
 
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I wish we could play Nationalist rap in Kwa or Western Europe without being labelled as "racist Nazi bigots". Like Eastern European people do.
 
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I wish we could play Nationalist rap in Kwa or Western Europe without being labelled as "racist Nazi bigots". Like Eastern European people do.
Concerning the USA ( and yes , I know you live in Canada ) . .

Two problems . . . .

Many Americans still identify "Hip Hop" or rather the idea behind it with Negroes . . . Unfortunately even within our movement.
Second , in the USA Hip Hop is still largely in the hands of groids.

Hmmm . . . .

I've said it before and I'll say it again . . the art of rhythmic rhyming/poetry is NOT negroid in origin.

It has a place in our history . . it was used during the antiquity , among the old Norse people (flyting) , in the "square dancing" of the old American West , re-discovered by the Beatniks of the 1960's. . . ( all of this can be verfied from records )
 
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What's your take on the music referred to as 'Gangsta Rap' ?
Short answer: it's pure crap.

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Brother, you know that I am quite fond of White rap music like you do.
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I wish we could play Nationalist rap in Kwa or Western Europe without being labelled as "racist Nazi bigots". Like Eastern European people do.
Really? I've come across (c)rap artists from a wide range of European countries, I've seen their videos and heard their so-called music, usually performed in their native language: German, Swedish, Italian, Polish, Slovenian, Croatian, etc., and they all sounded like idiots and looked like baboons when they tried to gesticulate like ghetto negroes. I don't really see how that could fit with white/Western nationalism.

But hey, I'm not judging anybody here because, to be honest, I myself love Eurodance music which often contains rapped verses and features black/mulatto singers (I'm talking about talented groups/artists like 2 Unlimited, Magic Affair, Ice MC, U96, etc.), and like I recently wrote in another thread, I also listen to talented female Eastern European pop singers/groups who occasionally appear half-naked (usually exposing their buttocks by wearing thongs) and make out with each other in their videos. (Nudity in day-time TV programs, music videos and advertising is pretty much accepted in Europe.)
 
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Really? I've come across (c)rap artists from a wide range of European countries, I've seen their videos and heard their so-called music, usually performed in their native language: German, Swedish, Italian, Polish, Slovenian, Croatian, etc., and they all sounded like idiots and looked like baboons when they tried to gesticulate like ghetto negroes. I don't really see how that could fit with white/Western nationalism.
Who were those whigger European rappers you've come across, may I ask?

But some do use / wear WN symbols like Celtic Crosses and Totenkopfs, or burn EU flags in their videos.
I think they are from Belarus and Slovakia.
Maybe those rappers are few. but they are somewhat popular among WNs and hooligans in Eastern Europe, I believe.
And I just happened to like that.


If you dislike rap, even if it's done by Whites,
That's okay, Stewart.

Music can be a divisive subject sometimes. and Im not here to criticize anyone's musical taste.
People can listen to what they want.

I do personally listen to a wide variety of music as long as it is White and not blatantly antiWhite.


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and like I recently wrote in another thread, I also listen to talented female Eastern European pop singers/groups who occasionally appear half-naked (usually exposing their buttocks by wearing thongs) and make out with each other in their videos. (Nudity in day-time TV programs, music videos and advertising is pretty much accepted in Europe.)
I listen to some European Pop artists too. my favorites are Abba and Kate Bush. as for Eastern Europe, I listen to Polina Gagarina from Russia. Kinda off topic though.

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Old April 9th, 2019 #7
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Who were those whigger European rappers you've come across, may I ask?
Here's a trashy and cringe-worthy example from Serbia – a song called Kakva guza, which means "what an ass" in Serbian (and Croatian too, since it's basically the same language):


Most of them are like that.

Marko Stojković a.k.a. MC Stojan:







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But some do use / wear WN symbols like Celtic Crosses and Totenkopfs, or burn EU flags in their videos.
I think they are from Belarus and Slovakia.
Interesting. Thank you for telling us this.

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Maybe those rappers are few. but they are somewhat popular among WNs and hooligans in Eastern Europe, I believe.
And I just happened to like that.


If you dislike rap, even if it's done by Whites,
That's okay, Stewart.

Music can be a divisive subject sometimes. and Im not here to criticize anyone's musical taste.
People can listen to what they want.
That's a very mature attitude, Zack. I appreciate it.
 
Old April 11th, 2019 #8
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Rap might be one of the few things that niggers did actually invent. The only White people I've ever seen doing it were obviously aping niggers and were equal parts hilarious and sad.
Niggers do make other kinds of music.

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Rap might be one of the few things that niggers did actually invent. The only White people I've ever seen doing it were obviously aping niggers and were equal parts hilarious and sad.
Niggers do make other kinds of music.

Boris Gardiner- Every Nigger is a Star
Joey , it is a common false assumption that groids "invented Hip Hop" ( at least the style behind it . .)

Everybody who digs deeper into Aryan history disovers that rhythmic rhyming has always been used as an Aryan art form . .

The groids are doing it today ..

And , no offense but if one goes by that logic , what about rock . . ?

The first rockers ( Rock 'n Rollers ) were black . . Heck , even the expression 'Rock 'n roll' comes from black slang ( !) . . Rock started out as a black art form . . It was only with acts such as Elvis and Beatles that it 'came over to Europeans' . .
Rock derived from Blues ( Blues played a bit faster = Rock ) . . The first electric guitars were used in Blues music . .
 
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Joey , it is a common false assumption that groids "invented Hip Hop" ( at least the style behind it . .)

Everybody who digs deeper into Aryan history disovers that rhythmic rhyming has always been used as an Aryan art form . .

The groids are doing it today ..

And , no offense but if one goes by that logic , what about rock . . ?

The first rockers ( Rock 'n Rollers ) were black . . Heck , even the expression 'Rock 'n roll' comes from black slang ( !) . . Rock started out as a black art form . . It was only with acts such as Elvis and Beatles that it 'came over to Europeans' . .
Rock derived from Blues ( Blues played a bit faster = Rock ) . . The first electric guitars were used in Blues music . .
My logic, of course, was not "The groids are doing it today .." but rather the absence of anyone doing it prior. At least so far as I have been able to discover (and you didn't name anyone). I am not at all invested in the idea of Negros as inventors. It is singularly anomalous! If you refer to my statement, the word "might" merely expresses possibility but it is seeming only more likely.

Rhyme and rhythm are ubiquitous. What culture has ever lacked them? The human brain is wired to create music from rhythmicity, innately. This phenomena is demonstrated here - https://app.box.com/s/nugeesufilukh6mem8qll4tdbo8t9ec8
But if you can provide examples that illustrate the evolution of 20th century rap from some Aryan predecessor, please don't keep it to yourself. I've found nothing to suggest a descent from the characteristically melodious music of Europeans to the distinctly unmelodious rap. Not to mention the style and subject matter (primarily crime, drugs, hoes and malt liquor).
One need not dig deep to find rhyme and rhythm used as an art form by Aryans or anyone else. Isolated tribes, already at the time of first contact, had music that is far more comparable to rap than anything I've heard of European extraction. First Contact - https://www.bitchute.com/video/9yxqMtBPOKbX/
But theses similarities result from the fact that they arise from the same physical and biological mechanisms, not though cultural exchange.
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Old April 22nd, 2019 #11
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My logic, of course, was not "The groids are doing it today .." but rather the absence of anyone doing it prior. At least so far as I have been able to discover (and you didn't name anyone). I am not at all invested in the idea of Negros as inventors. It is singularly anomalous! If you refer to my statement, the word "might" merely expresses possibility but it is seeming only more likely.

Rhyme and rhythm are ubiquitous. What culture has ever lacked them? The human brain is wired to create music from rhythmicity, innately. This phenomena is demonstrated here - https://app.box.com/s/nugeesufilukh6mem8qll4tdbo8t9ec8
But if you can provide examples that illustrate the evolution of 20th century rap from some Aryan predecessor, please don't keep it to yourself. I've found nothing to suggest a descent from the characteristically melodious music of Europeans to the distinctly unmelodious rap. Not to mention the style and subject matter (primarily crime, drugs, hoes and malt liquor).
One need not dig deep to find rhyme and rhythm used as an art form by Aryans or anyone else. Isolated tribes, already at the time of first contact, had music that is far more comparable to rap than anything I've heard of European extraction. First Contact - https://www.bitchute.com/video/9yxqMtBPOKbX/
But theses similarities result from the fact that they arise from the same physical and biological mechanisms, not though cultural exchange.
Sry Joey , didn't see your reply earlier . .

Hmmm . .

Concerning the history of rhythmic rhyming. .

According to lores it was already present in antiquity , among the old Norse people ( flyting ) . . It was in a way re-disovered in the old Square-Dancing of the American Old West and was re-taken-over by the 'Beatniks' of the 1960s . .

Nowhere in African history has something existed similar to rap . .

Many people use the excuse that supposedly the 'drums' in Hip Hop sound like African tribal ones but . . the 'beat' is much 'softer' ( a ) and ( b ) . . Aryan peoples have also used all kinds of percussions throughout history . .

Hip Hop is just that . . rhyming. . .

The fact that the groids fill it with images of "killin' honkey" , "robbin' banks" etc. ( that particular subgenre is called Gangsta Rap ) suits their character . .

The idea behind Hip Hop stems from us
 
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Sry Joey , didn't see your reply earlier . .

Hmmm . .

Concerning the history of rhythmic rhyming. .

According to lores it was already present in antiquity , among the old Norse people ( flyting ) . . It was in a way re-disovered in the old Square-Dancing of the American Old West and was re-taken-over by the 'Beatniks' of the 1960s . .

Nowhere in African history has something existed similar to rap . .

Many people use the excuse that supposedly the 'drums' in Hip Hop sound like African tribal ones but . . the 'beat' is much 'softer' ( a ) and ( b ) . . Aryan peoples have also used all kinds of percussions throughout history . .

Hip Hop is just that . . rhyming. . .

The fact that the groids fill it with images of "killin' honkey" , "robbin' banks" etc. ( that particular subgenre is called Gangsta Rap ) suits their character . .

The idea behind Hip Hop stems from us
Again you fail to provide any example of something which could be said to be a progenitor of modern Rap.

Instead you begin with a different art form, Dance. Vaguely suggesting, based on nothing, a connection between Square Dancing and the Beatnik stereotype of the '60s. But then you stop there, decades before the emergence of Rap, so that I'm not sure if you even intended to suggest a connection between Rap and either Square Dancing or Beatniks. I couldn't discover what you use to connect even these latter two. This connection did seemed possible. I've only seen Square Dancing done to one kind of music but it can surely be done to other kinds as well.
After a tedious search I realised that I should have known there was nothing to find or you would have mentioned it.
One would think that if a group known to use the word 'Square' as derogatory slang, where seen Square Dancing it would have garnered much more attention than just yourself.

If by 'Square-Dancing' you're referring to the 19th century addition of Calling (also known as cueing or prompting), which made it possible to do the complicated dances without having to memorise the steps. This history is much shorter and well documented. I was surprised how many people actively practice and teach it right here in California. None advanced the idea that Calling gave birth to Rap. It has become an art form in itself but one that is inextricably linked to the dance. Both are reduced to nonsense if separated and attempted on their own.
Even if Square Dance Calling bore any resemblance to modern Rap (and it bears none in either sight or sound), rappers cannot have borrowed from an art form they had no experience of. I couldn't find a single rapper, early or current, that been to a Square Dance. Furthermore, neither Square Dance Callers, Square Dancers nor Rappers claim a connection. So why are you?

This suggestion, and indeed your entire thesis, relies on a common Causal Fallacy of Logic, i.e. the Post Hoc fallacy. (post hoc ergo propter hoc- 'after this, therefore because of this'). The mere existence of one thing prior to another does not imply descent there from.

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Nowhere in African history has something existed similar to rap . .
This is not in dispute. If the evolution of rap could be traced back through Negroid history then my contention that it arose independently in modern times could not be correct.
And I'm quite confident now that it is correct.

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Many people use the excuse that supposedly the 'drums' in Hip Hop sound like African tribal ones but . . the 'beat' is much 'softer' ( a ) and ( b ) . . Aryan peoples have also used all kinds of percussions throughout history . .
Wow. I suspected as I was ringing up Square Dance Callers that you are just suggesting random things that come into your head as you go along and have no concrete reason for believing Rap has an Aryan origin. This suggestion confirms it. Not only is it not a vocal art from, it demonstrates a lack of knowledge regarding both percussion instruments and musical notation.
Drums are a non-pitched percussion instrument and when written on a staff it is with the neutral clef rather than the more familiar bass or treble clef. The notes A and B refer to English pitch classes and don't apply to drums. And drums are not unique to Aryans.
At any rate, you don't know what anyone's drumming sounded like before the invention of modern recording equipment.

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Hip Hop is just that . . rhyming. . .
This is demonstrably false. Rhyming, by definition, is just stringing together similar sounds. Combining rhyming with language makes Rap (or poetry) more than just rhyming.

As I've already shown, rhythm and rhyming are not unique to any race or culture but are ubiquitous. As documented, the Negroes of New Guinea already practiced such songs and dancing at the time of first contact, when they believed they were the only people on earth.
Strikingly similar practices exist in many otherwise disparate peoples who have never encountered one another, the rhyming can be heard even without understanding the language, percussive music both with and without instruments is also used e.g. -
Pygmies of Central Africa -

Enawene Nawe of South America -

Either of these examples are at least as similar to rap as square dancing, if not more so. And many others can be found among the Maasai, Bororo, Wodaabe, Zulu, Fulani, Pedi, Basotho, Ndebele...etc., just as they can be found among the Caucasoid and Mongoloid races.

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Assuming by 'Hip Hop' you mean Rap ('Hip Hop' has an element of ambiguity that 'Rap' does not), I doubt you have a firm concept of whatever 'idea' you're imagining. The only ideas you have access to are your own, all others must be communicated in some more substantial way.
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Joey ,

. . let's cut to the root . .

a ) is the idea behind Hip Hop Aryan ?
b )Why do the groids do it today ?

a) I have to mention it again . . The idea behind Hip Hop has countless precursors in Aryan history . .It is historically proven that for example the poetry of the antiquity ( pieces like 'The Odyssey' . .) were brought about in a rhythmic fashion . . 'Beat-poetry' . .

Among the ancient Norse people the art of rhythmic rhyming was called 'flyting' . .

Does 'flyting' ( there's even a name to this art form ) for example count as a predecessor . .?

And . . you read far too much into the Square-dancing-comparisson I made . . Still , it was 'talk' instead of 'sing'.

The Beatniks of the 1960s re-discovered this . .

So.... does the art-form of rhythmic rhyming have predecessors in Aryan history . .? Hell yeah


Now . . let's look at the music of other races . .

Africa . . most of the time in sub-saharan African history Negro 'music' was merely 'war drums' . . Some say it is because it befits their brute character , others say merely because they werd too stupid to come up with any other instrument . . Maybe both . .

Now , can there be a comparisson made between the beat in Hip Hop and 'African jungle drums' ? Nope . . .

Let alone the fact that Negroes never had a culture of poetry . .

To answer another question of yours , the word 'Hip Hop' describes the style today , 'Rap' was used for the rudimentary style . . .

b ) Why the groids do it today . .?

In the 50s rock was deemed 'the blackest of all music' . . . It was 'caucasianized' over the course of time though.

Whether the NWO had a hand in giving the groids something what is Aryan in origin ( rhythmic rhyming ) or not remains open to question . . .

Yet there could be something to this theory . .

The problem is that today many people associate the art of rhythmic rhyming with the groids ..
 
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Joey ,

. . let's cut to the root . .

a ) is the idea behind Hip Hop Aryan ?
b )Why do the groids do it today ?

a) I have to mention it again . . The idea behind Hip Hop has countless precursors in Aryan history . .It is historically proven that for example the poetry of the antiquity ( pieces like 'The Odyssey' . .) were brought about in a rhythmic fashion . . 'Beat-poetry' . .

Among the ancient Norse people the art of rhythmic rhyming was called 'flyting' . .

Does 'flyting' ( there's even a name to this art form ) for example count as a predecessor . .?

And . . you read far too much into the Square-dancing-comparisson I made . . Still , it was 'talk' instead of 'sing'.

The Beatniks of the 1960s re-discovered this . .

So.... does the art-form of rhythmic rhyming have predecessors in Aryan history . .? Hell yeah


Now . . let's look at the music of other races . .

Africa . . most of the time in sub-saharan African history Negro 'music' was merely 'war drums' . . Some say it is because it befits their brute character , others say merely because they werd too stupid to come up with any other instrument . . Maybe both . .

Now , can there be a comparisson made between the beat in Hip Hop and 'African jungle drums' ? Nope . . .

Let alone the fact that Negroes never had a culture of poetry . .

To answer another question of yours , the word 'Hip Hop' describes the style today , 'Rap' was used for the rudimentary style . . .

b ) Why the groids do it today . .?

In the 50s rock was deemed 'the blackest of all music' . . . It was 'caucasianized' over the course of time though.

Whether the NWO had a hand in giving the groids something what is Aryan in origin ( rhythmic rhyming ) or not remains open to question . . .

Yet there could be something to this theory . .

The problem is that today many people associate the art of rhythmic rhyming with the groids ..

By 'example' I mean, an example of the connection. Something which can be seen or heard that is Aryan and resembles Rap, something outside of your own head.

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a ) is the idea behind Hip Hop Aryan ?
This "idea" is confined to your own imagination.

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Does 'flyting' ( there's even a name to this art form ) for example count as a predecessor . .?
No because there is nothing in reality that connects it to Rap. Existence before does not equal connection to (see the Post Hoc Fallacy of logic). These are two dissimilar art forms separated by many centuries and nothing exists showing the evolution of the one into the other.

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Africa . . most of the time in sub-saharan African history Negro 'music' was merely 'war drums' . .
Where's are you getting this? People have been recording African rituals for as long the technology has been around. I've previously linked to one but there are many. They are easy to find, drums are common and none I've seen involved war.

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Now , can there be a comparisson made between the beat in Hip Hop and 'African jungle drums' ? Nope . . .
I don't think there is a connection to Rap. Drums are no part of my argument. But since you are trying to link Aryan drums to Rap (yet have never provided an example that can be heard), I provided a link to African drumming that is more similar that anything you have provided, which is nothing. (Drums in your imagination don't count as they are make-believe.) Drums are not even necessary in Rap (e.g., a cappella, 'beatbox').

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In the 50s rock was deemed 'the blackest of all music' . . . It was 'caucasianized' over the course of time though.
Who is this learned authority you are quoting? How would Rock music being Negro, be relevent to your claim that Rap is Aryan in origin? (I don't think 'caucasianized' is a even a real word.)

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Whether the NWO had a hand in giving the groids something what is Aryan in origin ( rhythmic rhyming ) or not remains open to question . . .

Yet there could be something to this theory . .
This is not a theory, it's imagination.

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The problem is that today many people associate the art of rhythmic rhyming with the groids ..
It can be associated with anyone, rhythmic rhyming have existed in every culture ever known. (I previously provided links to examples of native tribes in Africa and South America showing this.)

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a) I have to mention it again . . The idea behind Hip Hop has countless precursors in Aryan history . .It is historically proven that for example the poetry of the antiquity ( pieces like 'The Odyssey' . .) were brought about in a rhythmic fashion . . 'Beat-poetry' . .
I saved this for last because it's another instance of you suggesting things which you seem to be entirely unfamiliar with.
We can be sure of what The Odyssey sounded like because it was in dactylic hexameter, also known as Heroic or Epic meter, due to it's use in the epic poems of Homer.
This is dactylic hexameter: (I've used 's' for short syllables and '-' for long syllables) | - s s | - s s | - s s | - s s | s s | |.
Dactylic hexameter is the same today as it was in ancient times. If any verse is done in this meter it is immediately recognisable. This definitely not a common feature in Rap. In fact, it is not commonly employed in English because Greek is in a different branch of languages and does not correspond with the rhythms of ordinary spoken English. Even the later Latin adaptation of hexameter has its own distinct characteristics. Still, it is obvious that the older Greek dactylic hexameter is the predecessor. The evolution of Latin verse can be traced from Quintus Ennius to the time of Augustus in the common era.
It is just as obviously not the predecessor of Rap. I could only find a single instance of anyone employing it in a Rap. It is only in a portion of the rap but you will have no trouble identifying the portions where it is used. The rap 'Bring the Noise' (youtube.com/watch?v=mZF4G79OLkk) is by the group Public Enemy and was on the soundtrack of a 1987 movie 'Less Than Zero'. Public Enemy did not employ dactylic hexameter (or any meter that I could discern) in any of their previous or subsequent raps that I suffered to listen to.
Rap is usually done using four beat measure. I couldn't even find another rap that consistently used a six beat measure let alone dactylic hexameter.
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