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Brett, you make some good points. I really do think the need for some kind of religion is hard wired into us. More accurately, a need for a sense of purpose is inherent in all of us.
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What xtians fail to understand is that there is nothing about a belief in evolution or science in general which precludes religion. Their problem with science is that it makes a mockery of their pet superstitions. To the average xtian, if you doubt their bible version of events you are automatically an atheist and out to destroy religion, which they seem to think begins and ends with xtianity. I don't have a feeling of terror concerning death. I am not in a hurry to face it but I see no reason to worry too much about it. It is just what happens. It will happen to all of us, we cannot change it, it is part of Nature, nothing to fear. That doesn't mean we should waste our lives or throw them away, that is why Nature wired us with an instinct for self preservation. Quote:
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Recently I was surfing a bullet casting forum, the Cast Boolits Forum. Most of these guys are fairly educated with technical backgrounds. Someone started a thread on whether or not we should continue to support Israel. There were maybe two guys who even remotely understood that the USA is being used as a tool by the izzies and that it is in our interests cut loose from Israel. Outside of a couple of posters who were fairly obviously jews almost all the rest of them based their arguments for continued support on the bible. One guy said right out that America receives it's blessing from God based on the amount of support we give Israel, and that these blessings will end if we fail to do our duty and support the izzies. Xtianity isn't harmless. |
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And no, it can be argued that Christianity ended the Roman Empire. That's what Klassen thought and I agree it's a pretty convincing hypothesis. Quote:
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The basic flow goes as follows: 'We are all Equal in the sight of God: therefore we should all be Equal on Earth.' To 'We are all Equal as we all have the same rights given to us by God.' To 'We are all Equal as we all have the same natural rights.' Which is where Marxism then takes the point and twists the Christian concept (not implausibly I might add) that the 'weak' and 'meek' should rule the Earth to mean the 'proletariat' and that because capitalism creates inequality where there should be none then a revolution of the 'advanced workers' should occur when the 'contradictions of capitalism' become most evident. I'm not even going to get started on the numerous influential Christian Socialist groups and individuals. Quote:
Why not read John Mosier's latest one: 'Deathride: Hitler versus Stalin' (2010, Simon & Schuster) or perhaps Constantin Plekanhov's recent 'Stalin's Folly'?
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Horseshit. Abstract gobbledygook.
They built a freemason lodge in my town. What is freemasonry? A bunch of old guys drinking beers together and having pancakes on Sunday, throwing each other a favor here and there out in the world. I could go off about freemasons in the lodge being a bunch of nigger lovers because of their ideas of Liberty, Fraternity, and Equality, but I try to think harder than that. Slavery was around in this country just a little more than 150 years ago. Spanish Conquistadors and Englishmen slaughtered entire races on this continent. The Inquisitors smoked jews left and right, drove the sand niggers out of Southwestern Europe. I could go on. All in "Christian nations," and in some cases, in the very name of their religions. Oh, oh, but these concepts, these concepts! Not intended as direct response to poster: Quote:
How about the populist overthrow of the French Monarchy, in which those revolutionaries wanted to destroy the Church as well? If anything, Christianity enforced the old ways, those..."classical" values so many admire, far longer into the advance of civilization than they otherwise would have been. How about Feudalism co-rising with the Church? When it's Marxist revolution, it's Christ-insanity as the culprit of forefather. When, at any time, a populace is too cowardly to overthrow their oppressors in non-Marxist fashion, it's the slave mentality of Christ-insanity. It's like Linder says, you can't attribute the great things to Christianity, but rather the credit is due to white men. But then those same people fail to point the blame at ideas they don't like on white men; rather, it's Christ-insanity! Not meant as direct response to poster: Quote:
It's not that I so much mind Christian bashing, it's how it's done. The misfiring of logic, the broad sweeping generalizations. Nietzsche was so anti-Christian because he was a thinking man, he had to overcome his father's thinking. His life was a thinking life, his struggles were thinking struggles. This I think is really the birth of his Ubermensch and morality ideas, overcoming his own brain. Like the many of you, who grew up in evangelical Christ-insanity, projecting your people's crap onto the rest of good, hardy, racial, war making Christians of times gone by. People don't think, they live. Christianity has been nothing more than the backdrop of the West, taking all the credit, and with some people now, all the buck. Christianity deserves it's flak certainly, but good lawd ya'll, make some sense of it. Put some focus into it. Get off these conceptualizations. The problem with both the religious nuts who inspire nutty action with nutty ideas, and the anti-Christs, is they both take concepts, way, way too seriously. Remember kids, "words have no meaning" as the wacky gunman said. |
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Marx's "from each according to ability, to each according to need" was sourced here:
Matthew 25:15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to each according to his ability. And he went abroad at once. Acts 2:45 And they sold their possessions and goods and distributed them to all, according as anyone had need. Acts 4:32-35 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. |
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I love bible stories.
From the book of Mike: Mikey 12:15 And the good and godly man did take 15 talents, and with good intent did give them 5 to each of three virgins. And the first virgin, being of frivolous mind, did spend the 5 talents on gifts, both for her and some for the good and godly man. And the second virgin, being of cautious mind, did take of her 5 talents and put them away in a secret place, where they neither lost nor gained value. And the third virgin, being of wise mind, did invest of her 5 talents, thereby earning an additional 2 talents. Now, of the three virgins, which did the good and godly man take as wife? Mikey 12:16 Therefore, the good and godly man did marry the one with the biggest tits. Mike
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And the Inquisitors slaughtered a lot more White people than they ever did jews or moslems. And for what? For crimes such as questioning the triune nature of the xtian god. And yes, they did it in the name of their religion. Quote:
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Xtianity contains a hell of a lot of those false ideas which are being promoted as truth. You may call that a generalization if you wish but I, and others, have enumerated most of them in great detail on this forum and I get tired of repeating myself. Can you list some reasons why xtianity is essential to White people? Xtianity now, not religion in general. I want to know why specific xtian doctrines are essential to us as a race. I've asked this several times and so far the only responses from the x-insane fanatics have been to call me a godless atheist. Last edited by Fred Streed; February 11th, 2011 at 12:57 PM. |
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Lets do a little deconstruction shall we? A) Your whole argument implicitly assumes that you Frederick know the exact and truthful interpretation of Bible; aka God's revealed word, which therefore can only be said to point to your personal belief that you know the mind of God and that therefore you are on a par with God or are directly inspired by God. You have two choices there: you can either declare your interpretation to be merely your personal opinion (as opposed to objective fact) or you can claim to be directly inspired by God [for which you can offer no proof and for which I'd probably question your sanity and/or your motives]? Logic is a bitch: huh? B) You say that because your interpretation of the Bible doesn't support Marxism that Christianity does not support Marxism, which assumes that Christianity is only your interpretation of the Bible and that your interpretation of the Bible is the objective truth of the matter. The Fabian Society; for example, would disagree with you. C) I didn't say that Bible supported Marxism: I said (or rather implied as I assumed you'd have more than two brain cells) that standard Christian beliefs and interpretations throughout history have directly lead to the logic and rationality that forms the basic assumptions of and the intellectual basis for Marxism. There is a distinct difference as you'd know IF you paid attention. D) How can the Bible say the 'opposite' of Marxism when the Bible contains (for example) the Sermon on the Mount (which Oliver aptly called 'Drivel on the Mount'), which is about close to Marxism as one gets without being an dialectical materialist? I'll quote part of it just for your selective memory: Quote:
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Perhaps you meant to talk about was Plutarch's Greek 'Lives', which have had a considerable indirect impact on the thought that forms the basis of marxism? Quote:
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Plato and Aristotle both addressed the communal distribution of property. Different than Marxism certainly, but the idea has always been there. They talked about it, thus the idea was there. Quote:
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What you fail to mention, is that democracy in it's oldest form still implies an equality in decision making, although not all inclusive. But Christianity is not all inclusive, socially. Like Fred Streed said, slavery is in the Bible. So it's a matter of extension then. Who gets to be equal. But Christianity, both in concept with it's lack of condemnation of slavery, and practically, with it never taking it upon itself to change social classes throughout history. Just because you can make a connection, don't mean it's so black and white. Quote:
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Communism is a reaction to industrialization. The slave doesn't have to think himself equal to the master to be less than satisfied with his condition, now does he? But the argument is, the slave would never question without Christ-insanity, because he would properly know he's got it coming! That's what the argument breaks down to. Really. Or are you talking about distinct cultural Marxism? Yes, today things are different. My perception is that Vatican II and the predominant judeo-Christianity of today is reaction to the shift in consciousness of the people, rather than it's direct, undeniable cause. This, spurred on by the juden and White ideas that were always around, as expressed intellectually in say, the Enlightenment. The churches are in the business of people. One decade they're buddy buddy with the Third Reich, the next the Vatican is promoting amnesty for injuns in Western built countries. Yes, those nigger loving, jew worshiping prophets on TV can justify their crap with words in the Bible, and so can their opponents. But Christianity hasn't been in direct conflict with ethno-nationalism. Reference the Third Reich. The structure and culture of the Orthodox Church, has been criticized by many "true-believer" types of Western European origin, as more of a worship of ethno-nationalism than a worship of God. You should have heard some of the stuff I heard coming out of an American Orthodox priest's mouth regarding the ethnic heritage of Madeline Albright and the uh, corrective measures, taken by the Serbs towards certain other populations. Last edited by Moose; February 12th, 2011 at 02:15 AM. |
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