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UFOs: Tesla, Hitler and Von Braun
For anyone who has not discovered the book Pentagon Aliens by William Lyne, here's part of his own summary:
http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetrut.../ufo-pent.html Some of the highlights: Quote:
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didnt ernst z used to sell nazi ufo books? a good roundup of this sort of fantasy is Joyceln Goodwin's book entitled "Arktos." Kind of covers the Lovecraftian nexus too. LOL crinoid creatures etc. Hyperborea, all that jazz. light reading fiction.
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Lyne was an Ayn Rand objectivist who observed UFOs very early on (he's a New Mexican) and he noted the gulf between official statements and what he was seeing. He took extensive notes and studied a lot. He notes that the CIA nearly destroyed him when he tried to go public at first. Sound familiar? When Trevor James Constable offered his evidence for what UFOs really were in 1975, the printing plant burned down! Whether or not there is a Tesla connection remains the sticking point with lots of people who have seen the reality behind the Hollywood. In the opinion of more than a couple, Germany was capable of the stuff Lyne describes without any need of Tesla's notes. However, Tesla is a subject for specialists too, since much of his work is now classified. UFOs cover a deliberate area of security state malfeasance, as Jim Marrs has noted. When one agency of the US government manages to loose 2 billion dollars in a year without civilian oversight, it's clear something is going on the chiefs don't want us to know. Till Washington tells the truth, I'm assuming people like Bill Lyne are at least part-right. |
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I'm inclined to agree with FJ. Come on A.E., "light reading fiction"? From the guy trying to sell religion? If all this springs from the imagination, they at least have a damn fine gift of imagination. Occam's razor does not shred this info.
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William Lyne is right, Flying Saucers are man-made electrogravitic flying machines. I have seen one up close in 1994, which was when I still believed in aliens from space. I no longer believe in extraterrestrials after reading that book! Also, a lot of what Mr. Lyne had said about government (his only minor error is the Holohoax) whether here in America or the world is right on the nose!
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What did it look like? Where was it? Go on...
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I'd like to hear more about what it looked like and where it was, please.
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Greetings, Xuxa the White. I noticed that you recently posted so I take the opportunity to remind you of my request for more information on your intriguing encounter. please describe what you saw. Where were you?
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There's a fairly persistent rumor that WWII Germany developed stealth. It beats the old faked "nazi UFO' pictures by miles:
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I guess, but neither of these pictures look like the ones I found two years ago, which I can't find now. (The earlier ones had no markings and were shaped even odder. The Russians found them in at an SS facility.) Nick Cook covers all this in The Hunt for Zero Point. He provides no photos, but the SS was absolutely years ahead on stealth. I found that impressive. I used to think the V-rockets were all they were working on.
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From the UFO Files...
1944: SECRETS OF THE ANTARCTIC REICH If you had been a Wehrmacht soldier at the bombed-out railroad station in Poltava, a city in the Ukraine, during the summer of 1942, you would have seen a very strange- looking military unit on the march, heading for a waiting passenger train. The unit consisted of women, all of them blond and blue-eyed, between the ages of 17 and 24, tall and slender, their sensational figures encased in striking sky-blue uniforms. Each woman wore an Italian-style garrison cap, an A-line skirt with the hem below the knee, and a form-fitting jacket with the insignia of the SS. You might have thought the SS had recruited a platoon of high-class call girls. But the truth was far stranger than that. You would have been looking at Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich Himmler's latest brainstorm--the Antarctische Siedlungensfrauen (ASF). The story actually begins in 1938, when the German seaplane carrier Schwabenland sailed across the South Atlantic, bound for Queen Maud's Land in Antarctica. According to Russian ufologist Konstantin Ivanenko, "The Schwabenland sailed to Antarctica, commanded by Albert Richter, a veteran of cold-weather operations. The Richter expedition's scientists used their large Dornier seaplanes to explore the polar wastes, emulating Admiral Richard E. Byrd's efforts a decade earlier. The German scientists discovered ice-free lakes (heated by underground volcanic features--J.T.) and were able to land on them. It is widely believed that the Schwabenland's expedition was aimed at scouting out a secret base of operations." A German base was established in the Muhlig-Hofmann Mountains, just inland from the Princess Astrid Coast. The area was renamed Neuschwabenland (German for New Swabia) and "the base was known only as Station 211." This shuffle was accomplished by a little-known office of the SS called the Rasse und Siedlungshauptamt (German for Race and Settlement Bureau--J.T.) or RuSHA. In the Ukraine alone, RuSHA drafted 500,000 women for forced labor in the munitions factories of Nazi Germany. It was RuSHA which selected women for Himmler's unit of Antarctische Siedlungensfrauen (German for Antarctic Settlement Women) About half of the "recruits" were Volksdeutsch--ethnic Germans whose ancestors had settled in the Ukraine in the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries. The others were native Ukrainians whom RuSHA had "upgraded" to full Aryans. This process was called Eindeutschung (Translated: Germanization). According to Ivanenko, "There is increased popularity for the idea of a 'German-Slavonic Antarctic Reich.' It is said that 10,000 of the 'racially most pure' Ukrainians, out of half a million deported in 1942 by Martin Bormann, were transported to the German Antarctic bases during World War II, in the proportion of four Ukrainian women to one German man." If true, this would mean that Himmler transferred 2,500 Waffen-SS soldiers, who had proven themselves in combat on the Russian front, to Station 211--now Neuschwabenland--in Antarctica. This may be the source of the myth of the "Last SS Battalion." An ASF training camp was set up in Estonia, on a peninsula near Ristna on Hiiumaa Island in the Baltic Sea. It was a combination finishing school and boot camp, where the ladies took lessons in charm and housekeeping along with their courses in polar survival. Himmler kept the camp's existence a closely-guarded secret. For "unhappy campers," the only escape consisted of a one-way train ticket to Auschwitz. There is one known instance of an ASF "deserter." In 1943, Auschwitz guard Irma Griese, 22, the off-and-on girl friend of Dr. Joseph Mengele, took to wearing a sky-blue ASF uniform, which she had scavenged from a pile of inmate clothing. Griese was hanged in 1946 for war crimes. The uniform's original owner must have had serious second thoughts about a permanent move to Antarctica.) The failure of Grossadmiral Karl Doenitz's U-boat offensive by May 1943 freed up dozens of "milk cow" U- boats. These were large submarines, almost as big as tramp steamers, which Doenitz had used to supply his U- boat "wolf packs" in remote seas of the world. Himmler now put them to work carting supplies and personnel to Antarctica. Himmler's rationale for sending thousands of settlers to Antarctica can only be understood within the context of his mystic beliefs. As a result of his youthful reading of New Age books, his association with the occultist Dr. Friedrich Wichtl, and his membership in the Artamen, Himmler became a believer in the Hindu concept of world- ages or yugas. He believed that the current age, or Kali Yuga, would end in a global cataclysm, thereby giving birth to a new world-age called the Satya Yuga. By sending a colony to Antarctica, Himmler was ensuring that a remnant of the "pure Aryan race" would survive the coming cataclysm with its society and culture intact. They would then take possession of Antarctica when the cataclysm melted the south polar ice cap. According to believers, the Neuschwabenland colony survived the end of World War II and Operation High Jump, a battle with Admiral Byrd's Antarctic task force in the summer of 1947. Ivanenko writes, "The total population of Nazis in Antarctica now exceeds two million and that many of them have undergone plastic surgery in order to move about with greater ease through South America and conduct all manner of business transactions." In 1969, author Michael X. Branton wrote a book "alleging that the Nazis had managed to build rudimentary flying saucers and transfer them to the Antarctic in 1944." Ivanenko called the Antarctic Reich "one of the most militarily powerful states in the world because it can destroy the USA several times over with its submarine- based nuclear missiles, remaining itself invulnerable to U.S. nuclear strikes because of the two-mile-thick ice shield" overhead. The city of Neuberlin, the colony's capital, sprawls through "narrow subglacial tunnels" under the mountain range, heated by volcanic vents and adjoining the prehistoric ruins of Kadath, which may have been built by settlers from the lost continent of Atlantis well over 100,000 years ago. Most amazing of the stories about Neuberlin is the claim that, like Shambhala, the city has an Alien Quarter, where Pleiadians, Zeta Reticulans, Reptoids, Men In Black, Aldebarani and other visitors from the stars dwell. Ivanenko reported that talk about the Antarctic Reich is "becoming more and more popular" in Russia, Poland, the Ukraine, Belarus and other countries in eastern Europe. He writes, "In the May 10, 2003 issue of the (newspaper) Frankfurter Allgemeine, Polish journalist A. Stagjuk criticized Poland's decision to send troops to Iraq" to assist with the Allied occupation. "At the end, he said, 'The next Polish government will sign a treaty with Antarctica and declare war on the USA.'" Ivanenko added that Stagjuk's words were broadcast on the shortwave radio station Deutsche Welle the same week. "Some analysts compared this sentence to famous code phrases which started wars in the Twentieth Century, such as ' Over all of Spain, the sky is cloudless' in 1936, and 'Climb Mount Niitaka' in 1941." (Editor's Note: "Climb Mount Niitaka" was the signal Admiral Yamamoto sent to Kido Butai, the Imperial Japanese Navy's fleet, to begin the attack on Pearl Harbor.) It is strange to think of a large population living under the ice of Antarctica, totally divorced from the "mainstream" world. Then again, there are Jivaro indigenous people living on Lago de Yanayacu (lake), less than 50 kilometers (30 miles) east of Iquitos, Peru, who have never heard of Courtney Love. So, is there a city under the ice inhabited by the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the original SS settlers? Or is it just an urban legend stemming from the chaotic conditions that prevailed in Europe during World War II? Some day we may know for certain. (See the books Himmler by Peter Padfield, Henry Holt & Co., New York, N.Y., 1990, pages 37, 68, 85 and 90; Hitler's Flying Saucers by Henry Stevens, Adventures Unlimited Press, Kempton, Illinois, 2003; Hitler's Heirs by Paul Meskil, Pyramid Books, New York, N.Y., 1961, page 37; and Fate magazine for June 2002, "Vostok: Lake of the Shadows" by Scott Corrales. Many thanks to Konstantin Ivanenko for allowing UFO Roundup to quote from his online article of November 18, 2003.)
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I picked up an interesting book in a secondhand bookshp recently entitled -
Last Talons Of The Eagle Seceret Nazi technology which could have changed the course of WW11 By Gary Hyland & Anton Gill Published by Headline in 1998 The book documents aircraft actally built by the Third Reich including jet fighters and helicopters. One photograph is especially interesting, describes as the Gotha Go229 the aircraft bears a striking similarity to the Stealth bomber! I believe it is the same aircraft pictured in post 49. There are several fascinating artist impressions of aircraft which were on the drawing board. |
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