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'Ready for War'
Thousands Join Militant Black Supremacists

Intelligence Report
Fall 2008

History of Hebrew Israelism

BALTIMORE — Despite the hellish heat on this spring Saturday morning in gritty West Baltimore, the five Hebrew Israelite priests loitering near a West Franklin Street storefront are draped in heavy robes, and their heads are wrapped in matching white, red and black cloths. Star of David emblems swing from their necklaces and are embroidered into their fabrics. One priest holds a staff.

Around them, security guards wear black headscarves, black T-shirts and black military-style pants tucked into combat boots. They grip cell phones and billy clubs. On their belts are sheaths and holsters, some empty, others holding blades and guns. The guards flit back and forth across the street, between the parking lot of an apartment complex that police say is notorious for drug-related crimes and a building with covered windows and a bolted front door.

Behind that locked door is the Baltimore branch of the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ, a black supremacist sect headquartered in New York City. Obsessed with hatred for whites and Jews, the leaders of the Israelite Church have managed to build up 29 church branches in recent years.

They are not alone.

Around the country, thousands of men and women have joined black supremacist groups on the extremist fringe of the Hebrew Israelite movement, a black nationalist theology that dates back to the 19th century. Its doctrine asserts that African Americans are God's true chosen people because they, not the people known to the world today as Jews, are the real descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible. Although most Hebrew Israelites are neither explicitly racist nor anti-Semitic and do not advocate violence, there is a rising extremist sector within the Hebrew Israelite movement whose adherents believe that Jews are devilish impostors and who openly condemn whites as evil personified, deserving only death or slavery.

The notorious white supremacist leader Tom Metzger once remarked of extremist Hebrew Israelites, "They're the black counterparts of us." The belief system of extremist Hebrew Israelites is basically the reversed-color mirror image of the Christian Identity theology embraced by many white supremacists, which holds that mainstream Jews are the descendants of Satan and that white people are the chosen ones, divinely endowed by God with superior status over "mud people," believers' term for non-white individuals.


Priests of the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ preach a particularly virulent form of Hebrew Israelism.

Since 2000, when the prophecy of a key leader failed to materialize (he predicted Christ would return to Earth at the dawn of the new millennium to wreak bloody vengeance on white people), the rhetoric of extremist Hebrew Israelites sects has been steadily heating up, with increasing talk of an impending apocalypse and God-ordained race war. At the same time, a magnetic young leader, who counts among his disciples the lead singer of a top-selling R&B group, emerged and rapidly expanded a movement that was previously concentrated in black inner-city neighborhoods on the East Coast. There are now extremist Hebrew Israelite churches in cities throughout Florida, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma and Oregon.

Confrontations between Hebrew Israelite street preachers and their perceived enemies are growing uglier and gaining increasing attention through video clips circulated to legions of viewers on websites like YouTube. The Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge, a sect that is the Israelite Church's main rival, has its own YouTube "channel," or video sharing distribution networks, with over 500 subscribers. One recently circulated Israelite School video, which has been viewed more than 26,000 times, shows a group of robed street preachers harassing a white woman until she bursts into tears. Another shows the preachers applauding as a white man kneels down to kiss the boots of "the prophets of God" while begging forgiveness for the sins of his race.

In yet another video, a preacher of the Israelite School, a man who identifies himself as General Mayakaahla Ka, offers this stark prediction for the future of the white race: "Every white person who doesn't get killed by Christ when he returns is going into slavery!"



Baltimore: The Grilling

The streets of the West Baltimore neighborhood where the Israelite Church sanctuary is located are just as tough as they look on HBO's "The Wire," a cops-and-reporters crime series acclaimed for its realistic insights into urban life. In the middle of this scene, passersby on Franklin Street respectfully acknowledge the Israelite Church priests and their black-clad security men. These local residents would have no problem getting into the nightly classes that Israelite Church teachers offer in public libraries throughout Baltimore.

But the mysterious church here is different. Entry to its Saturday "Sabbath" sessions requires a vigorous and often intimidating screening.

First, there's the question of skin tone; those with European ancestry need not apply. Others — and, lately, Hebrew Israelites have come to include West Indians, Latin Americans, and American Indians as brother "Hebrews" — may approach security for entry. Any stranger must meet certain strict conditions.

You must promise the guards that you are "clean" — that you haven't eaten pork or had sex in the prior 24 hours. You must explain how you learned about the church and why you've chosen to attend. You must assure guards that you're not a law enforcement officer or a spy from a rival Hebrew Israelite group, and then you have to give up your photo identification. Any recording device will be confiscated during an aggressive pat down search carried out by the guards.

When the door is unbolted briefly to allow you into the building, you walk into a tiny vestibule where you're required to enter your name, address and telephone number into a ledger. If you have a cell phone, it will be confiscated and stored in a file cabinet until you leave. You will be issued a King James Version of the Bible — and any other version that you may carry will be taken away.

Finally, a disciple approaches. He pours olive oil on your head as a final cleansing measure. Now, at last, you are prepared to enter the inner sanctum.



Lynching Santa

"I'm talking about 99 million niggers! You talking about 6 million crackers?"

General Mayakaahla Ka is shouting at a college-aged Jewish kid outside the Market East Station in downtown Philadelphia. He and three other extremist Hebrew Israelite preachers, all wearing the Israelite School insignia of two swords crossed through a Star of David, berate their victim until he begins to weep. The altercation is part of an Israelite School recruiting video that began circulating this spring and has since been viewed more than 73,000 times.

"Are you saying the Holocaust is a joke?" the Jewish man asks.

"It's a joke!" the "general" responds. "The Holocaust is a damn joke! Heil Hitler!"

Mobile clusters of up to a dozen extremist Hebrew Israelite street preachers, known in the movement as "camps," have become a common presence at busy intersections, plazas and public transportation centers in large American cities, especially in Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore and Washington, D.C., as well as Venice, Calif. The camps are often remarkably aggressive and intimidating, railing against "white devils" and calling for death for Jews and homosexuals.

Zacharyah ben Ya'aqov, a former racist Hebrew Israelite who was active in the movement in the 1990s, calls the activities of camps "evangelical terrorizing." Ya'aqov, who now heads the Israelite group, The Truth After Knowledge, denounces his former community's racist doctrines. He describes on his group's website his experiences as a rank-and-file member, explaining that his superiors brainwashed new recruits, using "fear tactics to break you down," and instructed followers to join camps and verbally assault pedestrians. "They [camp preachers] told them [targeted passersby] they had hell to pay and would be going into slavery," Ya'aqov says on his Web forum. "Especially the white man, who they had special hatred for."

The Israelite School caused a major stir recently when it positioned a camp at the bustling intersection of H and 8th streets in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of northeast Washington, D.C.. The noise produced through its preachers' megaphones and amplifiers sparked conflicts with those who live in the area. "It's frightening when a person or group can force noise — whatever the speech content — inside another's home," said Capitol Hill resident David Klavitter, who monitors the Israelite School camps for his Quest for Quiet blog. "This allows amplifiers to be used as weapons to harass, intimidate and threaten people."

Last December, the Israelite School observed the holidays by "lynching" effigies of the Virgin Mary and Santa Claus in Klavitter's neighborhood.

Extremist Hebrew Israelites have a long, strange list of enemies. At the top of the list are white people, who they preach are descended from a race of red, hairy beings, known as Edomites, who were spawned by Esau, the twin brother of Jacob (later known as Israel) in the Old Testament. Equally hated are "fraudulent" Jews, "the synagogue of Satan." They're closely followed in no particular order by Asians, promiscuous black women, abortionists, continental Africans (who, according to the extremist Israelites, sold the lost tribes of Israel, who were black, to European slave traders), and homosexuals, who according to extremist Israelites should all be put to death. (In December 2006, three gay men who were assaulted inside an Atlanta nightclub identified their attackers as Hebrew Israelites; no arrests were made).

Recruiting literature describing the extremist Israelite doctrine is just as harsh as the street preachers' angry rhetoric. "Does the Bible teach unity of races? NO!" reads one of the Israelite Church's widely distributed fliers. "Will the different nations who believe in Jesus be saved from the Lord's wrath? NO! Was Jesus Christ a Caucasian man? NO! Does his color matter? YES!"



Baltimore: The Sanctuary

Paintings of a black "Yahawah," or Jesus, adorn the walls of the sanctuary inside the Baltimore storefront Israelite Church, along with images of dark-skinned angels. The room is long, narrow and windowless. There are metal and wood folding chairs set up in 12 rows of six each. The first six rows are reserved for men, while women are relegated to the back. The walls are lined with posters bearing the names and images of the 12 tribes of Israel and the nations who are believed to represent each of those tribes today. The biblical tribe of Judah, for instance, is said to be the forbear of today's African Americans, while those of Levi and Benjamin are believed to have become the Haitians and West Indians of the present.

At the head of the sanctuary is an altar adorned with coiled horns made of wood and metal candelabras. Just behind the altar, atop a slightly raised stage, is a table covered in cloth. Behind that are two royal-blue curtains, each embroidered with Hebrew characters. (Israelite Church members, like members of other Hebrew Israelite groups, routinely use "Hebrew" names rather than their legal names.)

A member of the audience announces the three priests who will preside today, and the men, clad in extravagant robes and staffs, rise from the front seats. They take their seats at the table behind the altar, and one of them sounds the coiled horn.


"General Mayakaahla Ka," an Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge preacher, regularly shouts down whites, Jews and other enemies in street confrontations.

This Sabbath's teaching, from the Book of Chronicles, is read out by one of the high priests. Then another, whose real name is Carlos Santiago, interprets the words for his audience. As usual, the sermon focuses on the perfidy of white people — or, in the language that Santiago appropriates from the Bible, how God restores power to Judah (read: black Israelites) and punishes Edom (white people) with death.

"The army of Judah also captured 10,000 men alive, took them to the top of a cliff and threw them down so that all were dashed to pieces," one priest reads. Then Santiago steps up to explain how this is a reference to black Israelite power. "See how powerful Judah is?" he says. "This is the kind of power we have over them."
Aching for Armageddon
The man with the most power over the extremist Hebrew Israelite movement is Jermaine Grant, 30, the head of the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ. Grant rose from the lower levels of the organization to become its top leader in 2000. This was after Christ failed to return to earth to slay or enslave all Edomites, as had been long prophesied by Grant's predecessor, Ahrayah, the movement's founding "godfather."

It was a period of great tumult within the extremist Israelite world. Many of Ahrayah's high-ranking followers split off to form their own new factions, while inside the Israelite Church organization, Grant's star ascended just as rapidly as Ahrayah's fell. A former rap music label owner and restaurateur, Grant is a highly charismatic figure. Although his "Hebrew" name is Tazadaqyah, his title is "Chief High Priest"; he is also sometimes referred to by followers as the Holy Spirit made flesh. Today, he can be seen in numerous YouTube videos preaching to gatherings of hundreds and typically dressed in shiny silk robes and headwraps rendered in blues and purples. He's often pictured in stretch limos or tour buses emblazoned with his portrait and his nickname — "The Comforter."

Since 2001, Grant has produced the Arch Angel Awards, a version of the Grammys for musical artists who are avowed loyalists of the Israelite Church. The most famous of them is Wanya Morris, the lead singer of Boys II Men, a popular R&B group that's won four real Grammys and sold over 60 million records.

According to former members of the church, Grant has instituted mandatory tithes and general offerings from his followers. Also, during his 2006 "I Will Not Leave You Comfortless Tour," in which he toured six East Coast states in eight weeks, Grant reportedly demanded an additional $25 per attendee in the form of an additional "High Priest offering." (Another "world tour" is planned later this year.)

Grant, who did not reply to a request for an interview for this article, is an energetic man. Under his leadership, the Israelite Church has expanded rapidly, and its "Hidden Truth" television programming can be seen on public access channels around the country. Meanwhile, the tone of the extremist Hebrew Israelite grows ever more apocalyptic, with its followers feverishly searching for signs of a bloodthirsty black Yahawah's impending return.

This summer, Grant boldly predicted that a hellish earthquake would soon herald the return of Christ and the beginning of Hebrew Israelite rule. He didn't set a date, but his prophecy still heightened the mood of eager anticipation for the coming doom of all enemies of the true Israelites. That, coupled with the increasing militance and numbers of his movement, is what is so worrying.

The vision of Grant and his fellow Hebrew Israelite hard-liners — an imminent and bloody demise for whites and other enemies at the hands of a vengeful returning Christ — is well captured in a scene from a 2007 documentary. In one scene from "The Gods of Times Square," an extremist Hebrew Israelite preacher delivers a sermon with his foot planted on the back of a white man laying flat on the sidewalk, arms splayed at his sides. A second preacher approaches the camera.

"White boy, you're next," he warns. "All you white people get ready for war. We're coming for you, white boys. Negroes are the real Jews. Get ready for war!"

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History of Hebrew Israelism

The Hebrew Israelite movement is rooted in Black Judaism, a belief system birthed in the late 1800s by black Christians from the South's Pentecostal "Holiness" movement. They claimed to have received a revelation: America's recently emancipated slaves were God's chosen people, the true Hebrews.

According to Black Judaism doctrine, when the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, the Israelites were first scattered across the African continent and then selectively targeted by enemy African tribes who captured and sold them to European slave traders for bondage in the New World.

"It's a common myth that slaves were randomly shackled up and carried off to slavery," "General Yahanna," leader of the present-day Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge, told the Intelligence Report. Actually, "Slave traders sailed for months and days to get to specific pickup points. They knew what people they were taking — specifically, the lost tribes of Israel."

Black Judaism leaders preached self-empowerment and economic independence, an early form of black nationalism that was foundational for later groups like the Nation of Islam. Their rhetoric, emphasizing the biblical theme of an oppressed nation being led to a promised land, informed black activist thought right up through the speeches of Martin Luther King Jr.

Although followers of Black Judaism thought of themselves as the descendants of the biblical 12 tribes of Israel, most did not take that to mean that other people deserved condemnation or attack.

One notable exception was F.S. Cherry, a self-declared prophet who in 1886 started a "black Jew" church in Chattanooga, Tenn., where he preached that white people were inherently evil and hated by God. Cherry also instructed his followers that the earth is square and that Jesus would return in the year 2000 to install blacks over whites through a race war.

Just as today's racist Hebrew Israelite sects are hateful but smaller detachments of a larger, non-racist faith, Cherry, who relocated his congregation to Philadelphia in 1915, was far less popular in his time than non-racist Black Judaism founders like the Rev. William Christian and William Saunders Crowdy.

After Cherry, the next major purveyor of racist dogma among black Jews was Eber ben Yomin, also known as Abba Bivens, who in the 1960s broke away from the "Commandment Keepers," then the dominant mainstream black Jewish organization, to launch his own extremist sect, which became known as the Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge.

Initially based in a Harlem apartment, this new black Israelite group soon moved to a building on New York City's 125th Street, Harlem's main drag. Three of Bivens' disciples — Ahrayah, Masha and Yaiqab — joined with four "high priests" named Chaazaq, Lahab, Yahiya and Shar to take over leadership of the Israelite School. Collectively they were referred to as the "Seven Heads," the inner-circle governors of the black supremacist Hebrew Israelite movement.

Although they employed the same kind of radical rhetoric and confrontational street theater that other militant black groups of the 1970s did, racist Hebrew Israelites held themselves apart. They rejected the "Muslim" beliefs of groups like the Nation of Islam and refused to join with the pork-eating secularists of groups like the Black Panthers.

In the 1980s, the Seven Heads changed the name of their group to the Israelite Church of Universal Practical Knowledge.

The Israelite Church attempted to expand its visibility in the 1990s by declaring, as F.S. Cherry had before them, that Jesus Christ would return to earth in 2000 to enslave and destroy the white race. Meanwhile, some members began to break away and form their own racist Hebrew Israelite sects. One such member, Yahanna, started a chapter and reclaimed the original name Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge for his group.

When the year 2000 came without the Israelite Church's prophecy coming to pass, its leaders rebranded the organization as the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ, the name they still use today. The organization was taken over in late 2000 by "Chief High Priest Tazadaqyah," born Jermaine Grant, who declared himself the "Holy Spirit" and "The Comforter." Grant recently prophesied that a vengeful black Jesus would soon return to earth to kill or enslave all whites. Unlike Cherry, however, he didn't set a date.

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The SPLC could have at least given VNNF a hat tip for alerting them to this group.

Had the black Israelites (or whatever the hell they call themselves) stuck with bashing Whitey instead of making effeminate Jewish boys bawl, this interminable jeremiad would have never been written.
 
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This seems like a perfect religion for ghetto niggas' with attitude. No uncle Tom's there. Mr Jew is shut out.

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In all seriousness, I cannot endorse this religious sect. I support Al-Shabaab

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In one scene from "The Gods of Times Square," an extremist Hebrew Israelite preacher delivers a sermon with his foot planted on the back of a white man laying flat on the sidewalk, arms splayed at his sides. A second preacher approaches the camera.

"White boy, you're next," he warns. "All you white people get ready for war. We're coming for you, white boys. Negroes are the real Jews. Get ready for war!"
How about that? Father Pfleger is a movie star!
 
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I'm thinking we need a black nationalism subforum.
 
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I'm thinking we need a black nationalism subforum.

Would it be possible to incorporate that into the Tard section? Heh, we take anybody.
 
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Would it be possible to incorporate that into the Tard section? Heh, we take anybody.
Yes and I noticed Holly Emerald has not been around since her recent embarassment.
 
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Should we emigrate them to the Indian nations? Or maybe we should just annex parts of Mexico south of Del Rio, or baja California and just give it to the nigs.
 
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It's created. It's a place for discussing black nationalism, hence placed under General Discussion, rather than a place for black nationalists, although they are welcome to join us.
 
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I don't believe black nationalism will go anywhere. Blacks may be dumb, but they are bright enough to know that they can only elevate their status of living by integrating into white society. They want to move to clean, white neighborhoods, shop in white stores, and get high-paying affirmative action jobs in white companies. The primary desire of black males is access to white females. Sounds shallow and crass, but it's true.

Louis Farrakhan and his troopers can move to black-run Liberia at any time. Why doesn't he? (rhetorical question)
 
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Just as a side note, the Al-Shabaab fighters (YMM) in Somalia are not Nationalists.
 
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And that is the problem with them. As I said, they want a Kwa-liphate. Salafis want to uproot age-old traditions in the Islamic world, like endogamy, and promote a raceless, cultureless, Arab-speaking ummah. For what it is worth:

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afrol News / Awdal News Network, 16 August - [Opinion analysis] The attack on our society has many fronts, and particularly the destruction of our once proud, serene and unadulterated culture found its momentum today in everywhere in our communities. We are in identity crisis for the first time ever today in our own villages and homes, as the nation that was once vibrant and proud has been brought to its knees by its own people and by others who have seized the opportunity to finish the business that they have been longing for centuries. Our own Somali language has been diluted so much to the point that our heritage and cultural values are in the risk of becoming extinct.

This is not an accident that we just woke up to it, but it has been the interest of many Arab countries to force the issue of Arabism into the Somali people by way of adulterating and raping our language, so much so it got to the point that it could be replaced with Arabic language today.

Any available warlord in Somalia is running for an office and many for the presidency chair these days, or so it seems at least. A new breed of non-nationalists, unpatriotic, uneducated, mostly criminals, who committed crimes against their own people, are running for the highest office in government, presidency. They are fighting over on how many seats each one gets for his tribe, clan, or maybe "GILIB".

When I think about it, which is very often, I usually picture a horrifying scene where a group of hungry, gargoyled humans attacking a weak but attractive and beautiful lady, the nation, and each one is grapping and pulling as many pieces of bones and flesh, internal organs and all, head or tail, while others are charging to have the whole torso (presidency) for themselves, for their clan, of course. Nowhere in that long shopping list that each warlord has could you see or read anything to do with rebuilding a nation, a Somali Nation. Each one thinks it is someone else's responsibility, the rest of the world, for that matter, to deal with the question of rebuilding the nation.

The extent to which such a complex issue could be logically explained and understood seems beyond one's mental capacity, but building a nation and maintaining its success requires the spirit of nationalism of its people. Nationalism is not something you pick and choose but rather something one is born to be and is expected of, as an individual, to have a sense of national consciousness. According to some definitions, a nation is a distinct group of people, usually demarcated by common language, religion or culture. It is an identification with and devotion to the interest's of one's nation.

After decades of separation, East Germany united with West Germany, a testimonial to the argument that once born a German you are always a German. Once born Somali, one remains Somali whether one is in Ethiopia, DJibouti, Kenya or in the republic of Somalia. Many different and distinct groups consider themselves as one nation called Indonesia; more than 50 States called themselves the United States of America; Great Britain is another example; China is trying to stay as one China; there are even talks going on that may, one day, bring South Korea and N. Korea closer in order for them to have open borders again and reunite families that have been separated for decades; and as much as ethnic or clan cleansing Rwanda had had few years back, people are willing to forgive, decided to forego hatred and anger in their society, agreed to rebuild their lives and their nation again together and joined hands with their neighbors who have slaughtered their love ones just the other day. No matter what have happened, they belong to one nation, one nationality, Rwandans.

Apartheid in South Africa wouldn't have been defeated without a nationalist movement, nor Somalia would have gained its independence without the spirit of nationalists who sacrificed their lives and material to secure our independence. The non-nationalists of today will try to make you believe otherwise, but ask them what they have accomplished since the collapse of our state, other than the destruction of our unity and the nation we loved.

What we need today, more than ever, is a nationalist movement that could build bridges of brethren; leaders who could help bring us back together in order for us to have an ownership of our problems without resorting to violence. Nationalists like Martin Luther King jr., Mahatma Gandi, Nelson Mandela, to mention a few, have all succeeded to bringing their people together and presented their cause without violence. They did this in the face of power to be working against them.

The bravery of Ahmed Guray to face the powerhouse of Ethiopian force comes to mind, a plan by Ethiopia to occupy the coast of Zeila (Ahmed Gurey's birth place), where Ahmed Guray defeated the Ethiopian forces in 15th century, and helped Moslems reclaim their land and property in Ethiopia. That was nationalist war and a dream of Greater Somalia of its kind. The Sayyid Mohamed's uprising was another kind of nationalist war and resistance to occupation.

The struggle of the Somali Youth League (SYL) against the Italian power was a nationalist war and a dream of creating Greater Somalia. They gained a power of educational systems, administrational development, economical structure as well as political parties to help them prepared to lead their nation to freedom and independence.

It was during this period when the SYL strengthened its leadership of creating nationalist sentiments and foundation building, and decided to take risks on the face of power against them. They succeeded to have control of their future, even if that meant going to jail for their cause. And going to jail they did for protesting against a system they didn’t trust.

Their struggle paid off when they were allowed to participate in the discussions proposed by the Italian authorities (AFIS) where they gained experiences in handling social problems such as conflicts of tribal land issues. These political movements gave rise to the elections of 1956 where the first prime minister of the government, Abdullahi Iise, came from the SYL leadership. His term of office (1956-1960) was believed to be the most stable period that the nation ever had. It was during this period when women's right to take part in the political system gained a wide support and the practice of clanism in the government was less common in momentum.

Historians wrote that their nationalistic sentiment was succinctly stated in their vision of Greater Somalia, and rightfully and responsibly so. Waves of nationalistic fervor spread across regions and valleys in the country and produced nationalistic parties like the SNC and USP an later in the north, and later NFD in Ogaden region, which greatly fuelled the nationalistic movement towards united Somalia on their free will to join hands and declare independence, a birth right for all mankind.

A vision lead by loyalty and devotion to one's own nation or ethnic group; idea that the good of the group can best be served by independence for its people. It was that vision that successfully brought the south and the north together and gave us the best president Somalia ever elected, President Adam Abdullah Osman. What a great service he provided us, so much so that he enjoyed respect and admiration of his people way after he left the presidency office. Tell me another African leader, as to late, who has done that. None of today's warlords could ever wear his shoes or command such respect in their communities.

Contrast that to today's society in our country that failed to agree to live together peacefully. It is because we don't have nationalist leaders who believe the power within. What we have are notorious, power driven tribal warlords, and the rest of us are following the blind. Warlords in our society of today are here not to rebuild a nation but only to exercise the one thing they know how, and that is power.

Power, as defined by social science scholars, is an instrument of rule, while rule, as it is known, owes its existence to the instinct of domination. In the words of Voltaire, "A man feels himself more of a man when he is imposing himself and making others the instruments of his will, which gives him incomparable pleasure." To the extent that this definition is true, the Somalia situation stretches the limits of this known phenomenon to where one whole tribe wants to impose itself to make the rest the instruments of their will, ignoring that fact that others don't want to be dominated either.

There are those who make the claim that dreaming about Greater Somalia was a sinful attempt that should have never been committed, because it had been, as they claim, a consequentially damaging political decision that, at the end, resulted the death of many Somalis in Hargeisa and elsewhere.

Or was it? I don't get it. Somali tribes, though to lesser degree, were killing each other before the independence of 1960 and are still fighting even after Siyad Barre has been dead more than a decade. It is the nature of tribal culture where killing is common practice without consequences but the predictable destruction of human lives.

Was it the operating policy of a government, the ever existed tribal segregation among the Somali people, including government officials, the lack of knowledge of the Somalis to understand how a system of government should work in order to advance its agendas of promoting the welfare of its people, or was it the unification of the northern and southern Somalia in 1960 that resulted the collapse of the government, as some Somalilanders claim these days? It is true that there were unmet expectations, shortcomings and miscalculations, disappointments and missed opportunities, and above all greed and tribalism that resulted the collapse of the union, but isn't it a self serving prophecy to blame our selfinflected wounds wholly on the attempt of dreaming about the possibility of unified Somalis, especially when they were in great need of help, both moral and material support, from the union.

If the creation of the union was responsible for our situation of today, or at least for that argument to have any merit, have we succeeded building a better system of government since the collapse of the union? Show me one, other than those tribal enclaves calling themselves governments, and I will be willing to listen.

Non-nationalists will make you believe that the dream of Greater Somalia was something of an after-thought matter, an idea that found its way into the minds of some and then forced into union after the independence. To the contrary, there were nationalists in every region of the union and nationalism was the impetus of the unification.

The idea of creating Greater Somalia existed well before the independence and the unification of the north and the south. Nationalist sentiments were flourishing in every city of the country, including the north, way before the union, and it is absurd to read the claims some Somalilanders are making these days. Some sound as if the idea of uniting Somalis everywhere was something of a southern issue. To the contrary, it was a Somali issue and all nationalist in every region participated and fought for it.

However if the claim that unitary failed us does continue and regional segregation and breakaways persist, then confederation or consociation will not help us either. And even in our present state of the union, the only option left, besides dismemberment of the nation, is giving federation a chance. Then and only then, could we be able to move forward and solve our problems peacefully. No need for empty rhetoric, unsubstantial muscle flexing or bad mouthing other Somalis who are in the same predicament as everyone else. Time the Somalis look for genuine nationalists who care and could lead this nation.

Clearly, this so called 4.5 formula that the Somalis have been trying to sell to the mediators during these multiple conferences that have already failed, is the major obstacle that contributed to the failing outcomes of these conferences. No tribe trusts the rest, and each tribe would want to do away with the rest and formulate their own government. This could create an act of violence when the tribe in power tries to compel the other tribes, as the power holders would wish to see it happen.

From Siyad Barre's era to the present warlords, such practice of power to force the others into submission has increased violence and a wide spread hatred in our society. Somalis in every region would rather have dominance from within, instead of someone else (another tribe) dominates them. This may not make sense, but that is why Somalis in different regions of the union don't trust the institutionalisation and legitimisation of such symbolically assembled government that is based on a formula of clan dominance, a recipe for instability and violence.

If the essence of power is the effectiveness of command, even if it leads to death and destruction of innocent human lives, then there is no greater power than that which grows out of the barrel of the gun. Each region of our union has its own accounts of the sufferings it has been subjected to under the power Siyad Barre, and no one is willing to go the same road again, at least I hope so.

What we see today, in the absence of viable and responsible government, are interest groups organising individuals who make claims for them, groups who, even when variance in principle, negotiate with each other in order to accommodate each other and adapt to the ever shifting power balance. An interest group seeks to influence specific policies of government, which always means to achieve control over government as a whole.

These groups concentrate on winning public office under any and all circumstances. Interest groups in our culture are mainly a sector of the society that is businessmen, ex-government officials and politicians, who do not necessarily represent the rest of the society. The object has been to appropriate stolen public resources to one's kin or once ethnos who are considered more reliable upon to sustain one's power in the country.

Clearly the public interests are not protected in this scenario and as such the system alienates considerably groups of the society who have not shared in the general affluence of the society. One of the first causalities of this system is the basic infrastructure of the society like education, health, environment, and community rebuilding. Many parts of the country experienced decline of these important social welfare, especially the rural areas where life has been very difficult to maintain, particularly building schools, health clinics or dealing with the daily grip of diseases like tuberculosis and malaria and stroke.

In such system, where decisions are made by the affluent sector of the society, it is particularly important that the rest of the society has no means of expressing themselves. As a result, political cynicism and feeling of political alienation have been on the upswing in many regions lately. We have witnessed the recent civil disobedience in Buroa few weeks ago. Distrust of government and related feelings of helplessness and inability to help one's own family and community is increasing.

Whether one wants to operate a business or looking for job, one has to travel to the capital to fetch for something in the same container where everyone else is sifting through, which is probably an empty container anyway. All other towns and villages have been swallowed and have been deserted due to this migration of all NEGOs and government jobs to the capital of the region. One can easily observe that in Hargeisa today as it has been in Mogadishu in the past. Consequently, people are leaving their families behind in search of jobs or moving their businesses to the capital where the money is. Families are torn apart, women and children and the unable bodies are left behind, which, at end of the day, destroys the family unity as well as community rebuilding.

The belief that a few big interests run the government is a common public sentiment. The belief that the government wastes money, that the people running the system do not know what they are doing are all firmly held public opinion. And this wouldn't have made a damn difference even if the ruling party has been replaced with another one. It has, however, a lot to do with the practice and the belief of clan loyalty in our culture. The problems of yesterday, lack of trust in government in general, though somewhat obscure, still remain well and alive. This keeps everyone on his/her toes, suspiciously wondering about what next.

However, the narrow-minded, non-nationalists of today will try to make you believe that the unity and the nationalistic consciousness that brought the first independent Somali nation home, was wrong and should have never be attempted. Remind them that unitary was not even one of the major factors that contributed to our demise. Let them, if they could, try something else like tribalism and regional conflicts.

Nonetheless, however, it is far from being as simple as some non-nationalists make it sound. Today's non-nationalists are trying to find faults in the principles of sovereignty that resided in the dream of Greater Somalia and the creation of inclusive nation that protects its own people, as all successful countries did.

It has been written that virtually every nation regards itself as being chosen, like Israel, for a particular destiny and as having a unique responsibility to contribute to the development of mankind. The feeling of belonging to a group united by common racial, linguistic, and historical ties, and usually identified with a particular territory.

Unfortunately, today's non-nationalists are trying to exercise authority that does not emanate expressly from a nation but from small regions and segregated sectors of clan enclaves that failed to protect its own people and burdened the rest of world with everlasting cycle of violence resulted an exodus of refugees seeking help, even when that means risking their lives in the face of humiliation and mistreatments as if God created them to be deservingly just that. The practical capabilities of the nation today in any general fashion fall short of those of yesteryears during the struggle for independence.

To make a case against a criminal dictator like Mohamed Siyad Barre, or against the thousands of warlords in every clan who ordered or had a hand in the death of thousands, if not millions, of innocent Somalis, is understandable, but to say that the nationalistic sentiment and the courage to dream about Somali unity in the 60s was the cause of our present situation is ludicrous, and it is a lame excuse for clan dominance.

The argument that the birth of the Somali republic in 1960 was unnecessary and a sinful act, as some are trying to make us believe, is nothing more than an absurd claim sugarcoated with a clandestine attempt to belittle the struggle that the founders of this nation had to endure, and it is by way of promoting the emerging clan dominance of today's Somali society.

Well, do the Somalis have leaders who could take the ownership of our problems and salvage the ruins of our country without IGAD interference, as the nationalists of yesterday did? I believe they do, but obviously are not looking for them.

Today's non-nationalists in Somalia will make it believable that some entities of warlords like SNM, SDA, USC, SSDF, SDM, SPM, to mention but a few, should be treated as the liberators, the freedom fighters and the founders of our nation. Far from it, to the contrary, all that these factions contributed to our sufferings was the reinforcement of the segmentation of Somalia into clan and subclan lineages, and exploitation of interclan rivalries, which itself failed to produce long term political stability in the country.

It must be all clear to the non-nationalists by now that, given the diverse nature of our society in its inherent beliefs of the unwritten rules of clan association much more than we believe in Islamic laws, only a transformation towards more centralised government, in principle at least, could produce a political order based on democratic consent. This may help rearrangements of the associations among groups or different parties across tribal and/or non-clannish lines by, at minimum, opening the doors for the emergence of peaceful political coalition of dominance, one way or the other.

Whether that would give rise to the emergence of ideological groups of the left, right and center would be a function of time and space nonetheless. It is, however, an alternative to the present warlord besiege that our society seemingly accepted to endure. However, without much of movements that could transcend our potential human capacity into kinetic energy of consciousness, and in the absence of vehemence, irritation, insolence by some social groups, who are willing to force a change towards social systems of higher order, we will remain outsiders to our own cause.

There is a dire need for the creation of politically conscientious nationalists that could initiate a start up of a political power with intense patriotic emotions, a veracious, truculent vernacular of some sort that would be new to and impossible to be controlled by today’s warlords. That, in my view, would give rise to a new beginning of a new breed of nationalists, who are convinced that they could, against the force of warlords, clanism and non-nationalistic movements of the present day in our country, still reclaim this nation and restore dignity in our society.

The attack on our society has many fronts, and particularly the destruction of our once proud, serene and unadulterated culture found its momentum today in everywhere in our communities. We are in identity crisis for the first time ever today in our own villages and homes, as the nation that was once vibrant and proud has been brought to its knees by its own people and by others who have seized the opportunity to finish the business that they have been longing for centuries.

Our own Somali language has been diluted so much to the point that our heritage and cultural values are in the risk of becoming extinct. This is not an accident that we just woke up to it, but it has been the interest of many Arab countries to force the issue of Arabism into the Somali people by way of adulterating and raping our language, so much so it got to the point that it could be replaced with Arabic language today.

The so-called Somali-Peace negotiation in Kenya has become, in fact, a hotbed of pseudo critical thinking, with a variety of misconceptions and flaws emerging. But while its intellectual value is low, its political value is high for many, especially for those who are engaging vested interests in the destruction of our nation. Some are there not because they want to help the Somalis to put their pieces together, but, in fact, to bury some of these pieces of this badly fractured nation. One of the integral pieces of our history and heritage that is under attack is our language, the Somali language. This is not a fluke neither a new thinking.

Many Arab nations have always engaged attempts to change Somalia into an Arabic speaking nation. The issue is never about converting the Somalis to become Moslems, because Somalis accept Islam by birth, but it is about infiltrating the Arabic language into the Somali culture and lifestyle. It is about changing the Somali language and replacing it with Arabic.

It is very common to run into some Somalis who mistakenly equate Arabic to their faith (Islam) and believe Arabic should be the Somali script. And if it was not for the persistence of Mohamed Siyaad Barre, chances are the Somali language would have little chance to develop its own script. Some Arab countries approached Mohamed Siyad Barre's regime with money and other influences in order to put a roadblock and undermine the teaching of the Somali language long before Somalis started succeeding in their campaign of writing their language in 1972. It was only Mohamed Siyad's refusal and his commitment and support for the Ololaha of the Somali teaching that have saved our language from a possible early distinction (yes, he deserves credit for doing that).

The 1972 decision to introduce a Somali script made a dramatic change in the lives of many Somalis, who found some doors open from them, and many even realised their dream of working in government and private offices without learning a foreign language. Even the Somali officials were required to learn the script, and a countrywide literacy campaign was launched.

By some estimates, a literacy rate of 55% was reported in 1975, though some believed that it was a little stretched by the government. But even the UN report of 1990 estimated a national literacy rate of 24% in over all Somali population. Considering the small resource and the short time spent on the campaign against illiteracy in the country before things gone out of hand for Siyaad's regime, 24%-55% national literacy rate achieved within a short period of time and with a limited resources, in contrast to 5% national literacy rate before the adoption of the Somali script, should be considered a significant progress. Many who are enjoying writing Somali language today may not have a clue of its history.

All languages have social and psychological, as well as expressive and rich epistemological roots. Every language has some specific character, unique identity of purity and authenticity that no other language could match no matter how well one translates from one to the other. Words of historical roots exist in every language, and Somali is no different. Something is always lost in the translation, as they say. We can always try to translate one language to the other, but construction of "meaning" is not an end in itself.

Every language has its own culture based on meaning of things and story telling styles. One could even appreciate understanding all that his/her language could offer by knowing how to express them. Misconceptions; perceptions; illusions; prejudice; stereotypes; delusions; beliefs; selfhood, and all other intellect that one acquires through his/her environment, shape us and present the uniqueness of one’s own, who we are and the uniqueness of our ecosystems. It is what makes every culture different and helps its inhabitants to construct meaning in their minds, understand and relate.

One doesn't have to be schooled to acquire this in his/her lifetime. The environment and the media of communication (language) is the only school one needs in order to express one's own thoughts - every culture has great poets, philosophers, anthropologists and ecologists who see different things; write about it, sing about it and express the uniqueness of it all. Somalis have this and express their thoughts not in Arabic, but in pure Somali with its extraordinary expressive style and language that existed through traditions that has enriched its vocabulary, which is as old as and as time-honored as Arabic language itself.

However, times have changed since then and that safe environment has been under attack for sometime now, and given another century, we would have a society where the Somali language became diluted and lost its richness and uniqueness. Our culture has been infiltrated and impregnated with Arabic language and it is ready to deliver a hybrid with Somo-Arabic features that lacks originality and loaded with heavy foreign accents.

The domination of Arabic media and the strategically designed attack on our language is apparent in every household of our broken down country today (satellites of Arabic media). We have a society that is unrecognisable so much so that one can detect the works of Talibans, Wahabists, Al-Qaida, and fundamentalists flourishing in our society and taking a strong hold to water down and dilute our once rich and pure cultures.

Though many of these fanatics and fundamental teachings are losing their place in many Moslem countries like Saudi Arabia, Afganistan or Pakistan, especially after 9/11 when many Arab countries were forced to revisit the method of Islamic teachings in their schools where hatred towards others and oppression of women is part of their Islamic teaching curriculum, these agents of hate are finding their way to make high leaps over our unprotected borders in order to secure their existence in our society.

But those agents are spreading the same teachings in our society so much so that one can observe the success of their teachings in our society today. It is another invasion that the Somalis don't even know it is happening; it is another failure on our part to protect our precious culture and language.

Of all the money in the world and wealth they claim to have, these Arab countries have yet to build a single hospital or maternity ward to save the lives of our sisters and their children who are dying in great numbers in front of empty delivery rooms in our country for the lack of oxygen or simple drugs that could save their lives. Instead, they are spreading vicious teachings of how to subjugate our sisters, daughters and mothers and shut them up in their homes, where they remain subservient to their husbands and follow their orders; it is in the Islamic religion, they claim.

I have even once witnessed some Somali men in a wedding gathering, who refused to sit and eat where everyone else was dinning, because they didn't want to sit around women and eat; it is against their Islamic faith (Wahabism), they claimed. We are suffering from identity crisis without even knowing it.

As if that was not enough, many Arab nations, particularly UAE, contributed to destruction of our precious ecosystems and burning down our irreplaceable trees in order for them to have a free charcoal from which they tremendously made profit by exporting it to the Gulf countries. At the same, Somali tradesmen cannot have an access to their markets where they once used to sell their livestock.

The consequences here, as one could imagine, are deadly. This practice of environmental invasion and economic assassination by obstructing the accessibility of their market for the Somalis caused the death of thousands of Somali children due to starvation and malnutrition, as reported by NGOs operating in Somalia.

An article titled "Singing into the vacuum" by the conscientious writer and poet, Bashir Goth that was posted on the Somaliland Awdalnews website recently, eloquently delineated a classical example of these identity crisis phenomena in our society. In his article, Mr Goth writes:

"A generation that had grown hearing only bad news and seeing depressing images about Africa. A generation that had no idea of how beautiful, how prosperous, how lush and green and how rich culturally and materially Africa was in the past and easily could be in the future if only it found proper leadership. A generation that grew up with foreign nurseries, foreign music, foreign clothing and foreign perspectives of their homeland. A generation that had no experience of sitting in a Somali theatre and listening to 'Habeen iyo dharaar, hadaladaan dhisnaa, Afkeena hooyo oo horumaraan, ku hoos caweynaynaa, Hagaaajinaa, had iyo jeer hagnaa, ma hagranee, waan u hawl galnaa' the customary choral theme of Somali artists written by the renowned playwright Hassan Sheikh Mumin Gorod as part of his immortal play 'Shabeel Naagood – Leopard among the women'. A generation that never had the opportunity to hear a mother or grandmother singing to them traditional Somali children songs."

Mr Bashir continues to write: "Of all the places to which the Somali people migrated, it may sound ironic and somewhat a tragedy to know that it is only in Muslim countries, and particularly Arab states that they found themselves as the most alien, the most discriminated and the most unwanted. Arab countries are one of the few if not the only places on earth where one packs up his bags and leaves unwanted and unappreciated after 30 years of service without any rights of citizenship for himself or for his children who never knew any other home."

This phenomena of identity crisis and the lost culture and heritage of the Somali history is very common nowadays, more so in the Diaspora. It is the self denial, the lack of social cohesiveness and common social goals, the ugly division in the communities, and the lack of preserved and protected Somali culture in the Diaspora community that failed to provide cultural centers for its future generation in order for them to learn and appreciate the richness of their culture. The result is what Mr Goth succinctly entailed in his article.

In a recent article titled "Another little piece of my heart" by our world-renowned writer and novelist, Mr Nuruddin Farah, has also pointed to same phenomena of Arabic domination in our culture and the risk of extinction of mother tongue. I have quoted him here for the benefit of those who haven't read his article.

"Even more disturbing because of the ominous omen for Somalia's future is the lack of education available. The Somali tradition of secular education is extinct. The schooling that does exist is financed by Arabs, which means Arabic has replaced Somali in school curriculums. This is tragic, especially because writing in Somali was in its infancy when the state collapsed - the standardization of the script having been adopted in 1972 - and Somalia is the only African country with a population numbering in the millions to boast of having one unifying language. This will no longer be the case if Arabic continues to be the medium of instruction in schools."

Only few like Nuruddin Farah and Bashir Goth could master the intellect to observe the tactfully planed cultural destruction directed to our communities by the foreign agents and write about it accordingly in order to wake up the rest of us to the attacks that we, Somalis, are under. Unfortunately, we are not even sure of who we are or what is ours anymore.

The alternative is clear then. Maybe we should rather focus on what we have in common as people instead of putting too much emphasis on our clan differences. We should promote and build on the things that could strengthen us as a nation, solidify our nationalistic sentiment, Somalinimo, which is what could ultimately dignify us, as a nation, and could provide a secured future for our young generations.

A new survey conducted worldwide showed that all successful and prosperous nations have one thing in common: that the majority of their respective populations believe in HELL - they are scared of the repercussions of their sinful actions that may haunt them after death. They follow the teachings of their religious beliefs, the basics of all religions that teach not to kill, no cheating or stealing public resources; abiding by the rule of law and having respect for human lives and all God's creation, including one's own life, and elevated humanity.

Many of these qualities, unfortunately, are practically non-existent in many parts of our nation today. No wonder! Maybe it is time to take break from this cycle of tribal wars. All Somalis, north, south, east and west need to expose the hidden skeletons in their closets, the ugly divisiveness filled in their hearts, by seriously discussing ways to heal the nation as a whole. Maybe it is time for the Somalis to believe in HELL.

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Although their attitudes are disgusting and their beliefs and facts are absurd, they do irritate Jews so they serve some purpose right?

Watching that video is like watching some people in an insane asylum act out.

I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of whites are only reactionary racialists, they will only respond to the hostility of non-white ethnocentrism and abuse against them. So it's helpful in that way.

 
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Although their attitudes are disgusting and their beliefs and facts are absurd, they do irritate Jews so they serve some purpose right?

Watching that video is like watching some people in an insane asylum act out.

I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of whites are only reactionary racialists, they will only respond to the hostility of non-white ethnocentrism and abuse against them. So it's helpful in that way.

YouTube - Hebrew Israelites speak on Patriotism and America
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Why judge attitudes and facts and beliefs of Black separatists? Racial separatism is a state of mind, among other things, and when you are separate from them, you don't judge them by White standards. You celebrate their separatude and leave it at that.

That's what's great about the Black Hebrews -- they are racial separatists, and that makes them wonderful in my book. Nothing else about them matters.

We should provide unqualified rhetorical support for the Black Hebrews, and the pale fake Jewish people who made their fortunes on the Black Holocaust of the slave trade with all their Jewish banker blood money owe the Black Hebrews hundreds of billions if not trillions in repamarations.
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Why judge attitudes and facts and beliefs of Black separatists? Racial separatism is a state of mind, among other things, and when you are separate from them, you don't judge them by White standards. You celebrate their separatude and leave it at that.
Why judge them? Because they're obscene, sadistic liars. Perhaps you are of the opinion that good behavior and telling the truth is of no consequence as long as you get what you want?

I think you overestimate their importance. They're a traveling freak show, not much more.

Granted, it has some entertainment value, makes blacks look bad, and upsets some Jews and liberal whites.

I support their separatism, however they also want revenge on whites.
 
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These guys are the true Hebrews and therefore they have the right to wage war on the hook-nosed impostors.
 
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they are full of hate for our people. That is fine. I hate them even more. However I do appropriate that they are open about it. I hate PC niggers who think they can live off our table scraps and get by on affirmative action liberal PC pussies give them.

These fucks want to make us their slaves. Ok, that means we will kill them all on the battle field.

Other then that, if they want to leave and live on their own fine, we will do the same. We will not trade with them, or have any formal relations with their state.

If they capture or mistreat any one of our Aryan citizens then it would be war.
 
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Also every time one of them fucking PC fagots try to paint us a militant haters, give them a taste of these monkey fuckers and ask them if their hated words also apply them them???

Never acknowledge any accusation made towards our people and always put it back on the monkey fuckers and ask the PC nigger lovers to explain what they are going to do about these militant monkey fuckers.
 
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I don't believe black nationalism will go anywhere. Blacks may be dumb, but they are bright enough to know that they can only elevate their status of living by integrating into white society. They want to move to clean, white neighborhoods, shop in white stores, and get high-paying affirmative action jobs in white companies. The primary desire of black males is access to white females. Sounds shallow and crass, but it's true.

Louis Farrakhan and his troopers can move to black-run Liberia at any time. Why doesn't he? (rhetorical question)



Then it's long overdue for them to admit this, and RESPECT WHITEY,and stop all of their TNB and niggnorant slang,Hate Whitey rhetoric,Whitey-is-the-devil rhetoric, admit all of the endless crimes against Whites( Not only here,but elsewhere in the world, by admitting they have brutalized us far worse than WE ever did them ) , and admit that THEY CANNOT MAKE IT WITHOUT THE HELP OF WHITEY - OR ANY OTHER RACE FOR THAT MATTER!!!!

And if you will never do that,Louis/Louise ,New Pink Panties,5 Pussyenters, Black Jizzraelites,etc,etc, THEN YOU,NOT WHITEY, ARE THE DEVIL, AND YOU ,NOT WHITEY, SHALL REAP THE WHIRLWIND THAT YOU,NOT WHITEY, HAVE SOWN!!!!

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