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Old September 6th, 2015 #61
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I think Dr.Pierce explains it best, as a kid the religion always felt alien to me.
See how he brings out how it was Europeanized but still managed to retain the alien mind set of the Jew, just makes sense.

Quote:Eventually Christianity became a unifying factor for Europe, and in the name of Jesus Europeans resisted the onslaught of Islamic Moors and Turks and expelled the “Christ-killing” Jews from one country after another. But the religion retained its alien mind-set, no matter how much some aspects of it were Europeanized. Its otherworldliness is fundamentally out of tune with the Aryan quest for knowledge and for progress; its universalism conflicts directly with Aryan striving for beauty and strength; its delineation of the roles of man and god offends the Aryan sense of honor and self-sufficiency.
 
Old September 6th, 2015 #62
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Majority of abortions come from white girls, Thats troubling. Muslim women have 5-7 babies each, and other non-white women average 4+ children. They do not believe in conception , abortions ,race mixing, mass immigration and multiculturalism. The Jews pushed all these things on whites only to destroy us.

How come the non-white women haven't been brainwashed with not having babies, abortions, race mixing? They're living in our white countries now! Because jews only targeting whites, so third world can thrive and repopulate europe and jews can control the easy sheeple and rule the world.

Not entirely true. LOTS of non-whites have abortions, especially if you look at it as a ratio of their population. Legalized abortion is a positive thing for whites, at least in comparison to non-white rates of abortion. The real problem is the rate of pregnancies compared to non-whites.






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All that means is that the churches have only truly obeyed the Bible since then (the clear egalitarianism described in Galatians 3:28). As Dr. William Pierce said, the early White Christians twisted the Bible to fit their own ideals just like Christian WNs do today. Christianity is an egalitarian slave-morality religion for weaklings, not Aryans. Christianity needs to die out.
No. The Bible can be interpreted just about any way you want. There is an interpretation for when a war is justified written by Augustine of Hippo, which was later modified by Thomas Aquinas. Both of them are freakin' saints. Christianity is whatever you want it to be.

"Augustine of Hippo, generally considered one of the greatest Christian theologians, was one of the first to assert that a Christian could be a soldier and serve God and country honorably. He claimed that, while individuals should not resort immediately to violence, God has given the sword to government for good reason (based upon Romans 13:4). In Contra Faustum Manichaeum book 22 sections 69-76, Augustine argues that Christians as part of government should not be ashamed to protect peace and punish wickedness.

Augustine asserted that this was a personal, philosophical stance:
"What is here required is not a bodily action, but an inward disposition. The sacred seat of virtue is the heart."

Nonetheless, he asserted, peacefulness in the face of a grave wrong that could only be stopped by violence would be a sin. Defense of one's self or others could be a necessity, especially when authorized by a legitimate authority:

"They who have waged war in obedience to the divine command, or in conformity with His laws, have represented in their persons the public justice or the wisdom of government, and in this capacity have put to death wicked men; such persons have by no means violated the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill.""

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Stop arguing ideological nonsense and look at reality. For well over a thousand years Christians conquered muds and put them in a place of subservience, with Christianity itself used as a justification for their slavery. Now Christianity has almost no say in how things are run, and few people follow Christianity very devoutly. And it wasn't until around the time that this happened that muds started to get their asses kissed by whites. I don't think there is a strong causal link between the 2 things, but it does show that Christianity didn't cause it.

The common link between the decline of pro-white attitudes and the decline of religious belief is that the jews have been trying to destroy or co-opt both, probably as they see them as related.
 
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Bullshit. I've heard this christ tard canard too many times to even count. Historically, christ tards have sought shit skin conversions, and have even race mixed with their newly recruited christians. Etc, Spanish Catholics knocked up a bunch of indian girls and now we got the mestizo christian hordes invading us thanks to christianity. And they're welcomed in open arms by most christians in the USA. They were even given amnesty by your christian conservatard hero Ronald Reagan. Christianity isn't based on race or being ethnocentric. Its a religion that preaches multiculturalism. Whether some Whites in the past chose not to embrace christianity for what it is doesn't mean its not anti-White. Christianity is just extra baggage the White race has been carrying around for far too long. Its hampered our advancement by hundreds of years, and is accessory to us being in our current situation. Why can't you let the semitic baggage go? Drop that shit off at the dumpster and move on.

Conquistadores converted them then worked them to death. The mixed breeds weren't considered white, and generally weren't allowed in government. To this day in Latin America there are fairly pure euros who are rich and in charge, and the swarthy squat monsters that work like dogs.

The rest of your examples are modern and so aren't relevant.
 
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Conquistadores converted them then worked them to death. The mixed breeds weren't considered white, and generally weren't allowed in government. To this day in Latin America there are fairly pure euros who are rich and in charge, and the swarthy squat monsters that work like dogs.
Doesn't that seem like jew-like behavior to you? Ironically, there were tons of crypto-jews who came over with the conquistadors. Converted by christians. They no doubt had their hands in the scummy activities that were going on.

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Christianity has always been anti-White. Its just showing its true face in modern times.
 
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For well over a thousand years Christians conquered muds and put them in a place of subservience, with Christianity itself used as a justification for their slavery.
The Christians waged war in the name of religion. For example, they didn't carry out the Crusades because the Arabs were a threat to the White race, but because they were a threat to Christendom. Contrast this with, for example, the Indo-Aryans: the first thing they noticed when they arrived in the Indian subcontinent was the racial differences between themselves and the natives, hence referring to them in their scriptures as the "blackskins" and the "noseless ones". Even if the Jewish origins and egalitarian nature of Christianity were ignored, it would still be a Semitizing force. It is inherently contrary to Aryan nature. "Paganism", on the other hand, could not be more fitting to Aryan nature; it was, after all, an expression of their race soul.
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1500 years ago, when there weren't many muds in Europe, there weren't many muds in Europe. Therefore, the Church is pro-White!

What happened since then isn't relevant, because it's recent. The past two or three centuries should certainly be ignored.

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Old September 6th, 2015 #67
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Conquistadores converted them then worked them to death. The mixed breeds weren't considered white, and generally weren't allowed in government. To this day in Latin America there are fairly pure euros who are rich and in charge, and the swarthy squat monsters that work like dogs.
So the best racial end state of Christianity is Latin America.
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The Christians waged war in the name of religion. For example, they didn't carry out the Crusades because the Arabs were a threat to the White race, but because they were a threat to Christendom. Contrast this with, for example, the Indo-Aryans: the first thing they noticed when they arrived in the Indian subcontinent was the racial differences between themselves and the natives, hence referring to them in their scriptures as the "blackskins" and the "noseless ones". Even if the Jewish origins and egalitarian nature of Christianity were ignored, it would still be a Semitizing force. It is inherently contrary to Aryan nature. "Paganism", on the other hand, could not be more fitting to Aryan nature; it was, after all, an expression of their race soul.
In fairness though, the Brahmans were ahead of the other ancient Aryans as well. The ancient Greeks and Germans were racist, but not so fundamentally.
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In fairness though, the Brahmans were ahead of the other ancient Aryans as well. The ancient Greeks and Germans were racist, but not so fundamentally.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I consider Aryan India to be far better than Greece or Rome. It's just that Christianity eliminated any possibility of an Aryan resurgence (resurgence because the Greeks (with the exception of Sparta, maybe) and Romans had lost the spirit of their Indo-European founders within the first few centuries of their civilizations). It warped the mentality of Europeans. Very few people really know or understand anything about ancient India. Only the Third Reich can compare to it.
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Yes, I'm well aware of that. I consider Aryan India to be far better than Greece or Rome. It's just that Christianity eliminated any possibility of an Aryan resurgence (resurgence because the Greeks (with the exception of Sparta, maybe) and Romans had lost the spirit of their Indo-European founders within the first few centuries of their civilizations). It warped the mentality of Europeans. Very few people really know or understand anything about ancient India. Only the Third Reich can compare to it.
Yep. On the plus side, it doesn't look like Christianity is going to recover among Whites. I mean, it can't in the long run, since it leads to an evolutionary dead end.
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it doesn't look like Christianity is going to recover among Whites. I mean, it can't in the long run, since it leads to an evolutionary dead end.
The whole response to the migrant crisis shows that Christianity (or its basic moral views) is unfortunately alive and well among Whites. It has simply moved out of the old-line churches and abandoned a number of the old hymn books, which is a comparatively trivial thing. It has taken a quasi-secular form, liberalism (in the USA sense). Though quasi-secular, liberals of this type are galvanized by any reference to WWJD. Whisper "Jesus said suffer all the little children to come unto me," and they throw open their doors to migrants.

Indeed, the essence of Christian morals--absurd self-sacrifice to inferiors for the sake of moral feels--is still so powerful among Whites that Christianity, far from being dead among our people, may very well take the White race down with it. Which would be the evolutionary dead end.
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Possibly, but I think actual extinction is less likely than we commonly believe; it would require an extremely fast and uniform collapse. Genetic selection will favor racism. Liberalism is a Western ideology that will flounder once "The West" is discredited on the global scene. White Christianity's done. Secular Jewry's in a strong contraction. The Orientals are racist.

But we need a complete cultural-historical break with the White liberals and their sinking ship. Which is arduous. Rejecting any humanist religion is Step 1.
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Possibly, but I think actual extinction is less likely than we commonly believe; it would require an extremely fast and uniform collapse. Genetic selection will favor racism. Liberalism is a Western ideology that will flounder once "The West" is discredited on the global scene. White Christianity's done. Secular Jewry's in a strong contraction. The Orientals are racist. But we need a complete cultural-historical break with the White liberals and their sinking ship. Which is arduous. Rejecting any humanist religion is Step 1.
Yes, other races are "racist," but it's only an article of faith that Whites will become so.

Why Whites should be expected to become "racist" after they lose even more power ("when 'The West' is discredited on the global scene") isn't clear. Whites are roughly 8% of world population now. Are you saying Whites will inevitably "wake up" when they are at, say, 4% or 5%?

Evolution dictates no specific end. It says only that if a species adapts, it may live, and that if it does not adapt, it will die. It's circular to say "x will live because genetic selection will favor adaptation."

What if Whites go to 3% and are simply eaten?

Sitting in one's study and relying on a nonexistent evolutionary instinct to save the day strikes me as being of a piece with relying on Jesus. The only way forward is to exterminate our murderers, the jews.
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Yes, other races are "racist," but it's only an article of faith that Whites will become so.

Why Whites should be expected to become "racist" after they lose even more power ("when 'The West' is discredited on the global scene") isn't clear. Whites are roughly 8% of world population now. Are you saying Whites will inevitably "wake up" when they are at, say, 4% or 5%?
It's not a matter of population size, it's a matter of cultural power. Liberalism relies on insulating Whites through a media monopoly, which is eroding.

In a Sino-centric world there would always be a competing (Chinese) narrative, which would - frankly - trounce the Western narrative on questions of race. Islam would undermine feminism. And so forth.

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Evolution dictates no specific end. It says only that if a species adapts, it may live, and that if it does not adapt, it will die. It's circular to say "x will live because genetic selection will favor adaptation."
Attempts at adaptation will occur within a population, as less fit portions contract quicker. The adaptations may still be insufficient to save any portion of the population, but that's usually not the case. Contracting populations usually stabilize.

I don't anticipate White extinction because I only see one variable - racism - that really needs to be altered for us to be competitive.

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It's not impossible, but I consider it improbable. It's more likely that White liberalism will be eaten, and White racists will remain in scattered groups.

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We're subjects of causality, even if we can't perceive it all. Isn't predicting human behavior the reason we're racist?

From a propaganda standpoint, the far-right has tried the "WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME WE NEED TO FIGHT NOW!" thing for 50 years, believing that it would shock people into action. Instead it's been one of our worst liabilities. We certainly haven't matched the success of the Calvinists, the flag-bearers of Christian predestination.

No sane person becomes a racist through the conviction that their actions alone will determine if the White race survives. So people want a projection of how other Whites will act before taking action themselves. I think providing them with one - even if it's only off-the-cuff estimations - helps them to orientate themselves.
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The Christians waged war in the name of religion. For example, they didn't carry out the Crusades because the Arabs were a threat to the White race, but because they were a threat to Christendom. Contrast this with, for example, the Indo-Aryans: the first thing they noticed when they arrived in the Indian subcontinent was the racial differences between themselves and the natives, hence referring to them in their scriptures as the "blackskins" and the "noseless ones". Even if the Jewish origins and egalitarian nature of Christianity were ignored, it would still be a Semitizing force. It is inherently contrary to Aryan nature. "Paganism", on the other hand, could not be more fitting to Aryan nature; it was, after all, an expression of their race soul.

So how are all those pure white Aryans in India doing today?

You can't logically say Christianity leads to race mixing when virtually every religion and culture leads to race mixing when there are multiple races present. That is just the way people are, with culture effecting the rate at which it happens, but not whether it happens or not. It takes a strong ideology to slow it down, and even Judaism's strong proscriptions against race mixing has still lead to a lot of mixing. God told them to kill every Canaanite, yet archeology and DNA evidence show that the Jews interbred with them.

Saying paganism (I assume you are only talking about the Germanic version of paganism) didn't lead to race mixing isn't very helpful, since most pagan areas were racially isolated. What paganism lead to was getting their ass beat by Christianity and forcibly converted. That isn't a winning formula, and we need winning formulas. Of course those 2 religions back then are not the same as the successors to those religions that exist today, and it is impossible to recreate them.

We need to go with whatever works to advance the real end goal, racial separation, and not give in to the temptation to argue the minutiae of made-up belief systems. If some people's version of Christianity makes them believe that whites should have their own nation, then great I'll support that version of Christianity. If some version of Paganism reinforces your beliefs that whites should have their own nation, then great I'll support your version of Paganism. Whatever keeps every body marching in the same direction on the same day.
 
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Christianity leads to race-mixing because it's their duty to convert others, no matter what race they are.

A dumb nigger from darkest Africa who lives in a mud hut and is still scared of the sun, is considered the equal of an Aryan genius like Charles Darwin in the eyes of Christianity.

Dumb nigger (his soul saved) can now fuck all the white women he wants because they are all 'gods children'.
 
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You can't logically say Christianity leads to race mixing when virtually every religion and culture leads to race mixing when there are multiple races present.
Christianity is why there are multiple races present. It weakens the natural ethnocentrism of Whites with its doctrine of human spiritual equality and encourages charity towards the enemy. Almost all Christians believe in race equality, and that holds true no matter how "right wing" they are on other issues.
 
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Saying paganism (I assume you are only talking about the Germanic version of paganism) didn't lead to race mixing isn't very helpful, since most pagan areas were racially isolated. What paganism lead to was getting their ass beat by Christianity and forcibly converted. That isn't a winning formula, and we need winning formulas.
How about this winning formula: Don't worship a god invented by kikes.
 
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