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Old October 22nd, 2008 #21
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It brings to mind this story.



He's 4 years old!!! Let him be a child a little while longer before being forced to grow up.

Hell yeah!!
That kid is a hero! And I would've done the same thing at his age - except I would've been dressed as He-Man in my era.



Kids don't need to be put on pills for every little thing.

A sinus infection? Sure, here's a Sudafed.

Hyperactivity? Put down the candy bar and Coka-Cola breakfast and have some bacon and eggs, kids.

REAL bacon and eggs, too. Not that processed plastic in a microwavable box.


Mmmm, now I want bacon and eggs.
 
Old October 24th, 2008 #22
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Hell yeah!!
That kid is a hero! And I would've done the same thing at his age - except I would've been dressed as He-Man in my era.



Kids don't need to be put on pills for every little thing.

A sinus infection? Sure, here's a Sudafed.

Hyperactivity? Put down the candy bar and Coka-Cola breakfast and have some bacon and eggs, kids.

REAL bacon and eggs, too. Not that processed plastic in a microwavable box.


Mmmm, now I want bacon and eggs.
ADHD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and restless leg syndrome are all tied together, and real diseases, not jew inventions. I know, as I have them all. No, i don't take drugs for it, I fight it myself, every day, successfully for the most part, although there is no controlling the hideous sensations in my legs when I'm trying to get some rest.

Now I'm sure the judaized medical system overdiagnosis these a LOT, and overestimates their prevalence, but these things do exist.
 
Old October 24th, 2008 #23
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ADHD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and restless leg syndrome are all tied together, and real diseases, not jew inventions. I know, as I have them all. No, i don't take drugs for it, I fight it myself, every day, successfully for the most part, although there is no controlling the hideous sensations in my legs when I'm trying to get some rest.

Now I'm sure the judaized medical system overdiagnosis these a LOT, and overestimates their prevalence, but these things do exist.
Bipolar disorder is also something that,while a serious real problem,is drastically over and misdiagnosed.
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Old October 24th, 2008 #24
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Witness the stupidity of people who think it's natural, normal, or even a good idea to have children sitting indoors for eight hours a day, five days a week, for year after year of their lives, filling their minds with humdrum hooey. It isn't the children who have a "mental disorder", but the adults who put them there.

School? School robbed me of years of my life and I never learned a thing the whole time.

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Old October 24th, 2008 #25
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Witness the stupidity of people who think it's natural, normal, or even a good idea to have children sitting indoors for eight hours a day, five days a week, for year after year of their lives, filling their minds with humdrum hooey. It isn't the children who have a "mental disorder", but the adults who put them there.

School? School robbed me of years of my life and I never learned a thing the whole time.
I wonder if these are the same people that think a zoo is a natural environment for animals.

There is an old saying: A dirty child is a healthy child. Meaning they should be outside playing.
 
Old October 24th, 2008 #26
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There is an old saying: A dirty child is a healthy child. Meaning they should be outside playing.
Yeah I can't wait for baby girl to go outside and get dirty while I sit back and enjoy watching it. Aww I will love that.
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Smart kids don't go to school. They teach themselves. It's been proven a zillion times already that kids learn BETTER and FASTER by themselves than being shoved with BS by a teacher.

I mean damn, at 12 i was already speaking english (originally speaking french) and i build my own computers while my (/most) classmates weren't even able to put up a coherent sentence.

Most people are autodidacts. Fact is i'd say 90% of white people are autodidacts; unfortunately this ability is CRUSHED in school because you're forced to learn the "official" bull. Those dropping out turning either to "street geniuses" (you know, that drunkard/junkie by the street who seems to work for nasa), "mid" (as i'd qualify myself. Not poor nor rich, evolving half & half) or "lucky" (the guy who has some merchandizing skills and turns a bullshit project like facecrap into a million dollar industry).

Tesla ? Autodidact. Curie ? Autodidact. Edison ? Autodidact. Ford ? Autodidact. Shulgin (modern, invented psychoactive drugs & chemistry) ? Autodidact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin

99% of the people responsible for the world's major discoveries were shit on by the "official system", does it ring a bell ?
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Old October 24th, 2008 #28
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Absolutely true Leshrac. Unfortunately, we live in a world where ‘degrees’ have more importance than (true) merit, accomplishments and discipline, competence in other words...

The only positive thing about school — as it is — is that in productive studies (math, science, linguistics, etc., thus not psychiatry, ‘philosophy’/‘liberal arts,’ ‘politicology’ etc.) virtually all shitskins appear to be are allergic for it, and incapable of outperforming Whitey; even with all the adjustments made, to the most ridiculous extent stuff like anti-racist mathematics (!!) ...

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Old October 24th, 2008 #29
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although there is no controlling the hideous sensations in my legs when I'm trying to get some rest.
That might be a potassium deficiency, orange juice or bananas might help.
 
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That might be a potassium deficiency, orange juice or bananas might help.
Sodium

K primarily control organs efficiency. Na controls neurological reactions, feelings and sensations of well-being.

For example a deficiency of potassium might get your muscles more tense/responsive than usual, a deficiency of sodium will give you slight headaches, mild irritation and sometimes a "not feeling that good" mood
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Sodium

K primarily control organs efficiency. Na controls neurological reactions, feelings and sensations of well-being.

For example a deficiency of potassium might get your muscles more tense/responsive than usual, a deficiency of sodium will give you slight headaches, mild irritation and sometimes a "not feeling that good" mood
Like a twitch or a cramp, as in restless leg.
 
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Like a twitch or a cramp, as in restless leg.
Definitely potassium
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Old October 25th, 2008 #33
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No, it's neurological, and it's not a twitch or cramp, its a literally indescribable feeling, more of a buzzing, or really it's just deep discomfort you're constantly trying to make go away by twitching the leg/butt muscles.

I'm not arguing thats it itsn't sodium or potassium, in fact I do think I have a salt issue, I may check that out.
 
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I use to get leg twitches a lot when I was in bed, prior to falling asleep. It started more once I moved to Ireland. Since it is freezing here, to me anyways, I found wearing 2 or more pairs of knee high socks to bed worked better than not wearing any and eating a banana about an hour or two prior to bed. I found that if my feet were cold that was when my legs would feel like they were going to cramp up. My father told me to take vitamin b supplements as he has it as well and said it works wonders. I haven't tried it yet as I don't get that horrible feeling as much anymore but you could try that.
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Old October 25th, 2008 #35
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No, it's neurological, and it's not a twitch or cramp, its a literally indescribable feeling, more of a buzzing, or really it's just deep discomfort you're constantly trying to make go away by twitching the leg/butt muscles.

I'm not arguing thats it itsn't sodium or potassium, in fact I do think I have a salt issue, I may check that out.
If you buy a potassium supplement, and it doesn't work, you will be out $3.

Google restless leg syndrome potassium
 
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Potassium noted and I will try it, but i think my cause is neurological.

For the record, restless leg syndrome, at least in my case, actually can occur throughout the body. I feel it along my entire left side, and I constantly twicth my left nostril, butt cheek and calf because of it.(discreetly) When its real bad it throbs through both legs, and my arms.

My ex-boyfriend, who had bipolar disorder, felt it in his groin and upper thighs.
There may be different levels of severity, and diferent causes. I eat a healthy diet and take my vitamins- I tend to believe this is more related to my almost total lack of seratonin production.

For one thing, it rarely bothers me and never keeps me up when I sleep alone, but when I have a bedpartner it gets a thousand times worse. If they try to snuggle it goes into overdrive and I have to jump out of bed and go running, it's so bad, a throbbing, buzzing electrical hell that truly makes you question your sanity, and pisses of your boyfriend.

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Old October 25th, 2008 #37
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No, it's neurological, and it's not a twitch or cramp, its a literally indescribable feeling, more of a buzzing, or really it's just deep discomfort you're constantly trying to make go away by twitching the leg/butt muscles.

I'm not arguing thats it itsn't sodium or potassium, in fact I do think I have a salt issue, I may check that out.
Your pre-frontal cortex is undeveloped leaving you unable to produce sufficient serotonin and dopamine. Not enough of these chemichals makes you want to jump out of your chair.
 
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Your pre-frontal cortex is undeveloped leaving you unable to produce sufficient serotonin and dopamine. Not enough of these chemichals makes you want to jump out of your chair.
...you jes' gots da "jimmy legs"!
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...you jes' gots da "jimmy legs"!
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One thing that needs to be clarified: fake mental disorders such as ADHD take NORMAL behaviour of a child and classify it as a disorder.

I am not claiming there are no such thing as legitimate mental disorders. But in order for us to classify something as a mental disorder, it must be characterized by ABNORMAL behaviour. Homosexuality is a good example. A fixation on feces would be another. But even in these cases, a solution is not likely to be found in drugging the brain with a certain chemical.

But a child not paying attention is class is an issue of DICIPLINE, not a mental disorder.
No haha. Abnormality isn't sufficient for pathology.

Diagnoses should be useful above all. You don't call something a disease unless it is harmful. (By the way, this is basically the reason why the "abnormality" argument against homosexuality is a poor one).

As for these disorders, well, I suspect there is something to them, but also that they are over-diagnosed. It's unfortunate that naming something makes it more real. You'd think people could be nice to each other whether they had a name for their foibles or not.

Also it's not really an issue of discipline. Parenting perhaps, but not "discipline". Authoritarian parenting generally yields what most would agree are worse outcomes in terms of behaviour and moral reasoning.
 
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