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Old March 12th, 2006 #1
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For those of you who still doubt the incompatability of xtianity with an Aryan racialist Weltanschauung read on-

http://www.hopeofisrael.net/lordjew.htm
Jesus was indeed a Jew. According to the record of God's infallible Word: "of whom (Israel) as concerning the flesh Christ came" (Romans 9:5).
Fellow Gentile-Christian, what does this profound truth mean to you and me? Does it not challenge us to examine ourselves humbly and sincerely concerning this vital matter of our relation to those who are our blessed Lord's brethren according to the flesh? The closing part of Matthew 25 very graphically points out the keen and tender concern our Lord has for the children of Israel, and the implications surely should exhort us to search our hearts before Him and seek to know and do His will while we still have the opportunity. In the fight of the Holy Scriptures and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, let us look briefly at a few reasons why we should seek, by all means possible, to win Jews to the Lord Jesus Christ.

WHY EVANGELIZE THE JEWS?
Because they are Christ's brethren according to the flesh. This is repeated for emphasis. We need to really let this truth sink in.

Because they are lost.
Romans 3:9 with 6:23(a).
Christ told the Jews of His day that they would die in their sins unless they believed that He was the Messiah (John 8:24). The way of the Cross is the only way home for Jew as well as Gentile. What a fallacy it is to take the attitude that we have our "religion" and the Jews have theirs, and we should leave each other alone! The stark, sad truth is that the Jew without Christ is LOST!

Because Christ died for them (as well as for us).
Isaiah 53:6, and Romans 10:4, 11-13.
Are we constrained by His dying love to witness only to the Gentile? Surely not, for that precious blood was shed as much for Jews as for us.

Because God wants them to be saved.
II Peter 3:9
If we really want to be "in the center of God's will" we will be soul winners, because He is not willing that any should perish. If we by-pass the Jew, we are that much off-center as far as His good and perfect will is concerned.

Because Christ commands us to witness to them.
Mark 16:15
Our marching orders are both explicit and all-inclusive. When our Captain commanded us to witness for Him to all the world, He meant just that. This includes the Jew, as well as the Gentile.

Because they are especially precious to God.
Genesis 12:3, and Zechariah 2:8.
This great truth neither condones Israel's sins, nor minimizes God's boundless love for Gentiles as well. But the fact remains that in His sovereignty, He has chosen the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for a special token of His affection. As children of our Heavenly Father in Christ, what is our attitude toward those who are the "apple of His eye?"

Because they gave us the Word of God.
Romans 3:1, 2
Fellow Gentile-Christian, have you ever stopped to think that, humanly speaking, we would have no Bible had the Jews not written it under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? Are we not their debtors, indeed?

Because a Jewish missionary died to give us the gospel.
Galatians 2:8, and 11 Timothy 4:6-8
Paul, the greatest of missionaries, was a Jew. He had a love for lost Gentiles that caused him to burn out his life giving them the gospel - the "good news" that a Jewish Christ had died for our sins and risen for our justification! Are we grateful? Do we show it?

Because they will yet conduct the greatest worldwide crusade for Christ.
Matthew 24:14 with Revelation 7:1-14
The shadows are lengthening and deepening as this age rushes toward its predicted end, to wind up in unprecedented evil and feel the unprecedented wrath of God in the "great tribulation." We believe the true Church, the Body and Bride of Christ, will be raptured before the judgment-stroke falls. Then the task of preaching the gospel will revert to Israel. And, from Revelation 7, it is evident they will do a masterful job for Christ! Perhaps you and I might have the inestimable privilege of winning some of these future evangelists to Christ if we would only witness to the Jews as we should!

Because they are central in the earthly kingdom to be set up by Christ when
He returns as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
It would take pages just to cite the many prophecies relating to the time of Israel's glorification. Let it suffice for the present purpose simply to state that they will then be the leading nation, and Jerusalem the world-capital, when our Christ personally takes over the reins of the government of the world at His glorious return. Brethren, it is an honor to witness to anyone for the KING OF KINGS, but especially to give the "good news" to His chosen people!

Because they are increasingly eager for the gospel of Christ.
Romans 11:23-27
As the Church-age draws toward its close, and the time approaches for Israel's purging and restoration (the "day of Jacob's trouble" the "great tribulation"), their "blindness in part" is beginning to give way to light, and Jews are more and more willing to listen to the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Should we not be alert to take advantage of every opportunity to make Him known to them? Many Jews of our acquaintance may be far more anxious to hear the story than we dare hope!

Because Gentile Christendom has tragically neglected and ignored the plain injunction of Romans 1:16.
"The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (Gentile)."
The fact that Gentile Christians in general seem prone to reverse this Divine pronouncement (if indeed the Jew is sought at all), should only serve to spur on to greater endeavor those of us whose spiritual eyes the Holy Spirit has graciously opened. All about us the fields are white unto harvest, both at home and abroad. The laborers are indeed few, but we sometimes wonder if there is a needier or more neglected field than the children of Israel, God's own chosen people! May it please the Lord of the harvest to awaken more of Hs people to the greatness and importance of this task of getting the precious gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to lost Jews throughout the world. The question naturally arises, How shall I witness for Christ to the Jews?

Assuming there is a sincere desire to do so, born of the Holy Spirit, several answers immediately suggest themselves:
First we must live consistently for Christ. This is perhaps the primary prerequisite for witnessing to anyone, and especially so when it comes to presenting Christ to lost Jews. If we present a worldly, inconsistent Christian life to them in addition to the many serious stumbling-blocks already in their path, the testimony of our lips will likely amount to little if anything. Brethren, let's live Christ so that we can effectively talk Christ to anyone - Jew or Gentile! Second, we can give our personal testimony as the opportunity arises. In the case of the Jew this means that we must especially be equipped with the Word of God so that we may intelligently answer their questions and objections and answer them with their own Scriptures! Third, we can pray, and pray definitely for lost Jews. We should have them on our prayer fist by name. The chances are, if we pray earnestly enough for them, we will find ourselves witnessing to them! Finally, we can support with our means those whom the Lord has especially raised up and fitted as witnesses to His chosen people. We have particularly in mind Jewish Christians who are burdened for their lost brethren and who are eminently prepared to tell them the gospel message, answering questions and objections better than most Gentiles possibly could.

Brethren, our precious Christ was born a Jew shall we not try to win them for His sake?
 
Old March 12th, 2006 #2
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I am so perplexed as to why xtians cannot grasp this...

Jesus was jewish, aryans are not.
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I think most Christians worship the Jew on a stick,believing he was the first Christian.

Further, I think most Christians like to think of themselves as Jews; sorta by proxy=like 2nd class Jews-this appears to be the reason that today most Christians take such delight in kissing as many kosher asses as possible.

The basic Christian theory seems to be, that -if the Jews are Gods chosen people;then to be associated with them, will put all Christians second in line on judgment day.Sorta like knowing Trumps son when you go looking for a loan.

Lastly,I think that JC was a fictional character developed from other fictional characters from ancient legends and old folk tales.

The whole concept reeks of Santa Clause,The easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

Better to seek the wisdom of Creativity,than to foolishly waste a lifetime on Christian Mysticism.
 
Old March 12th, 2006 #4
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Brethren, let's live Christ so that we can effectively talk Christ to anyone - Jew or Gentile!
But the real fun starts when they talk Christ to Aryan Pagans. The Brethren who "live Christ" are going to have fun when they run into the Brethren who live Wotan or Hermes or Osiris... we're waiting!
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Old March 12th, 2006 #5
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I am not a Christian, but I do know that Yeshua (Jesus) was in no way a "Jew".

The word "Jew" was coined by Far-Eastern European's who called their kingdom "Khazar" after their conversion to Judaism. They seduced gullable Western European people into believing they were kin of their Christian religion's founder.

"Jesus" was a Judean, a middle eastern desert dweller who preached mono-theism for whatever reason.

He was not a "Jew".

There were no "Jews" in Roman times. Do some research.
 
Old March 12th, 2006 #6
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I have been reading Temple of Wotan by Ron McVan, which in the beginning, covers the origins of jesus christ, namely by applying the feats of men like Apollonius, to the jesus character.

I had theorized that the crucifiction of jesus was stolen from Wotan hanging and spearing himself to gain knowledge of the runic futhark, which is also covered(and confirmed) in Temple of Wotan.
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Old March 12th, 2006 #7
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This is why the white christian fools have to see the truth and what the christian religion stands for. Christianity is a tool that the jewish powers can use to control the white masses of this world, I say that christians are no better then the jew.
 
Old March 12th, 2006 #8
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There were no "Jews" in Roman times. Do some research.
Hahahaha, how stupid can you be?
 
Old March 12th, 2006 #9
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New York Times Reveals that European-Descended Jews are Counterfeits and have no Blood line to Abraham

The fact that most of those who call themselves Jews are not Jews (Rev. 2:9) and have no claim to the lands of Palestine because they have no genetic relation to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can no longer be suppressed. The October 29, 1996 N.Y. Times, in an article entitled, "Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews," states:

"Arching over these questions is the central mystery of just where the Jews of Eastern Europe came from. Many historians believe that there were not nearly enough Jews in Western Europe to account for the huge population that later flourished in Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and nearby areas.

"By reconstructing the Yiddish mother tongue, linguists hope to plot the migration of the Jews and their language with a precision never possible before.

"It has even been suggested, on the basis of linguistic evidence, that the Jews of Eastern Europe were not predominantly part of the diaspora from the Middle East, but were members of another ethnic group that adopted Judaism.

"...One linguist has recently argued that Yiddish began as a Slavic language that was 'relexified,' with most of its vocabulary replaced with German words.

"...Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that during the Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western Europe. These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by the 17th century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.

"...Some scholars believe the roots of Yiddish, and even the Ashkenazic people themselves, lie much farther east. In his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe, Arthur Koestler made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that they were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse to Judaism in medieval times.

"More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews': A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers), by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist.

"Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a Slavic language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going even further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted Slavs and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the Diaspora."
 
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Hahahaha, how stupid can you be?

The word "Jew" never appeared until the 18th century.
 
Old March 12th, 2006 #11
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I was raised Methodist. I've gone to a Catholic mass in a few different churches with my wife who was raised as such.

The last thought I had at Catholic mass centered on the cross behind the altar with a dead jew on it. The crucifix. It became an eerie cult service celebrating a dead jew.

What's not to worship? Christians are forgiven for whatever they do through this dead jew.

Holocaust reparations? No problem, see Jesus for the check. Free pass.

Christianity is tonque in cheek "religion" for the majority of Whites.

Really, almost nobody takes that shit literally, except for many nigger Christians. Alot of the Whites that say they do are really just being good comedians.
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Really, almost nobody takes that shit literally, except for many nigger Christians. Alot of the Whites that say they do are really just being good comedians.
Or businessmen. Lots of guys that can't get good work but have the gift of gab just start a church and get the tax write-off. I know they don't believe shit, but money is money.
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I was reading the other day a library book on cannabis -written by Aleister Crowley buff Martin Booth - that said the Ashkenaz were an ancient Aryan tribe that penetrated down into Palestine, where the hebes were already living and smoking dope in their temples. I think he was just playing headgames, though.
 
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Eastern European Jews are Khazars, so thus is follows logically that the Levantine man known in the West as "Jesus" must have been an Anglo-Saxon. In fact, there are ancient scrolls available in Egypt with eye-witness decriptions of the man: he would have been a dead ringer for Pastor Pete Peters!

Get real. Even if today's Jews are Turks, Jesus would've been a frickin' Palestinian.
 
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Few people know this, but Jesus was the Saviour, the Son of God, and it doesn't matter what else, he is the second person in the Blessed Trinity. The Jews don't have a Trinity or a Son of God, and are still waiting for the Messiah, or have some other Messiah.

The Christians rejected the laws of the Jews and all this is why the Jews persecuted the Christians for hundreds of years.

All this Jesus was a good jew stuff comes from Zionists, so don't be like them.

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But the real fun starts when they talk Christ to Aryan Pagans. The Brethren who "live Christ" are going to have fun when they run into the Brethren who live Wotan or Hermes or Osiris... we're waiting!
Indeed!:cheers:
I have a whale of a time when xtians attempt to "convert" me. Being a former xtian I know all the arguments and the scriptures far better than the average xtian activist. When I tell them that I honour Wotan and the gods of my blood they have nothing more to say to me. It is an excellent opportunity for us to get across the racialist message via religion.
 
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QUOTE=Abzug Hoffman]Few people know this, but Jesus was the Saviour, the Son of God, and it doesn't matter what else, he is the second person in the Blessed Trinity. The Jews don't have a Trinity or a Son of God, and are still waiting for the Messiah, or have some other Messiah.
With billions of xtians of all colour and orientation all over the world I would say that it is a safe bet that it is common knowledge!

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The Christians rejected the laws of the Jews and all this is why the Jews persecuted the Christians for hundreds of years.
How do explain this passage from your own scriptures?
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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All this Jesus was a good jew stuff comes from Zionists, so don't be like them.
I agree with you. The jew on the stick if he ever lived was not only a jew but a weakling who promoted, according to Hitler an early form of bolshevism.

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TE=winky]Eastern European Jews are Khazars, so thus is follows logically that the Levantine man known in the West as "Jesus" must have been an Anglo-Saxon. In fact, there are ancient scrolls available in Egypt with eye-witness decriptions of the man: he would have been a dead ringer for Pastor Pete Peters!
"Anglo-Saxon"? From the Levant? Methinks that you have got both your geography and history a trifle confused!
 
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I was reading the other day a library book on cannabis -written by Aleister Crowley buff Martin Booth - that said the Ashkenaz were an ancient Aryan tribe that penetrated down into Palestine, where the hebes were already living and smoking dope in their temples. I think he was just playing headgames, though.
Do you read many books on cannabis and satanists Abzug?
I am beginning to see you in a whole new light!
 
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