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Old July 24th, 2012 #21
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Mark Weber is married to a White woman of Russian origin named Eteri. Taylor is also married to a White woman, possibly with French antecedents. MacDonald is dating a White woman who is much younger than himself.

However Weber along with Irving, When Irving's book on Himmler is out, will all say that the Germans DID gas the jews, possibly as many as 3.5 Million.

Mark Weber must resign from the Institute for Historical Review

By Dr. Robert Faurisson

Mark Weber must resign from the Institute for Historical Review, remaining free to establish, if he wishes, a body for the struggle against what he calls “the Jewish-Zionist power.” He has, in effect, recently announced in a veiled way his abandonment, if not of revisionism, then at least of the revisionist fight. He therefore no longer belongs at the head of an institute whose main job is to combat what Arthur R. Butz so rightly calls The Hoax of the Twentieth Century.

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Old July 24th, 2012 #22
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I would like to hear responsible speculation on whether Mark Weber and Jared Taylor are or have been in the CIA or funded by CIA money. I have heard this re Weber, but forget the claim and source. I have not heard it re Taylor, but he went to Princeton, a famous recruiting ground. And he has said he wants to be the William F. Buckley of white nationalism, and Buckley was in fact not just a jew-sellout like JT is, but an actual employee of the CIA. The CIA is also famous for putting loads of money, during the Cold War, into literary and political fronts supporting democracy. Could the CIA now be supporting the undermining of WN, which for objective reasons ought to be or be nearing mass takeoff?
Not true, Willis Carto and Michael Collins Piper nonsense. Weber is an indolent and slowly driving the IHR into the ground. The IHR under Weber's indolent stewardship goes from one financial crisis to the next. Only timely bequests from dead supporters have saved it thus far.
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Old July 24th, 2012 #23
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Mark Weber is married to a White woman of Russian origin named Eteri. Taylor is also married to a White woman, possibly with French antecedents. MacDonald is dating a White woman who is much younger than himself.
I know people claim Taylor's wife is a jew, but I don't believe that. There's never been any evidence it's true. Weber isn't WN, so doesn't matter.

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However Weber along with Irving, When Irving's book on Himmler is out, will all say that the Germans DID gas the jews, possibly as many as 3.5 Million.
Yeah...that's not a surprise. At this point Irving has compromised his integrity in court, and can't be trusted in his claims about such things.

Was it Carto in context of court cases with Weber who said he was CIA agent or handled by one?
 
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Not true, Willis Carto and Michael Collins Piper nonsense. Weber is an indolent and slowly driving the IHR into the ground. The IHR under Weber's indolent stewardship goes from one financial crisis to the next. Only timely bequests from dead supporters have saved it thus far.
Is Piper known for making things up? What specifically did he say?
 
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You don't gauge WN by what it is today but by its potential. It is very clear the number of WN sites is mushrooming. And the only reason there's not open organization is suppression by the enemy. Never a better time to head something off than before it gets steam behind it.
Groups require both followers and leaders. Most WN are neither, they are individualists, and rightly so.

If the shit ever hits the fan, it will be every man for himself, and Whites will fight back, some may even band together, but I see it more like families of settlers defending themselves against Indian attacks rather than some great, glorious, army reigning down terror on the enemy.
 
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I know people claim Taylor's wife is a jew, but I don't believe that. There's never been any evidence it's true. Weber isn't WN, so doesn't matter.
Don't think so, I think she could be part French, never heard she was a jew.

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Is Piper known for making things up? What specifically did he say?
Is the Pope a Catholic

Piper along with his mentor Willis Carto always make certain parts "fit" into their conspiratorial meme. With those guys everything is a conspiracy, I'm not sure if they believe it or not themselves.

One whooper was how Taylor and Weber met in Africa. Piper throws in the caveat that the CIA where active in that region at this time. Hence in a underhand way saying that both Weber and Taylor are CIA, which is nonsense.

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This is not true, Weber is most certainly not a WN, but a National Socialist. He was News Editor of Dr. Pierce's National Vanguard magazine in the early days.
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Polarization by forcing folks to veer away from Taylor lovers, thus moving in the right, non-conservative direction.

I look at TOO, OD, and a few others as BTN- better-than-nothing. I'm not sure that it is BTN. My tolerance for statist politics is low.

As the years have gone by, I leave sites from where I started. I found out about AMREN from an ad placed in Horowitz' monthly Heterodoxy. Then I used to follow Sailer and VDARE. This was long ago.
 
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Groups require both followers and leaders. Most WN are neither, they are individualists, and rightly so.

If the shit ever hits the fan, it will be every man for himself, and Whites will fight back, some may even band together, but I see it more like families of settlers defending themselves against Indian attacks rather than some great, glorious, army reigning down terror on the enemy.
WN may have a higher percentage of individualist types, but they are certainly willing to support a genuine cause or party or action project. We've proved this time and time again. The whole about our thing is that racial defense can't be done, successfully, individually, because we're under organized collective attack.
 
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Polarization by forcing folks to veer away from Taylor lovers, thus moving in the right, non-conservative direction.

I look at TOO, OD, and a few others as BTN- better-than-nothing. I'm not sure that it is BTN. My tolerance for statist politics is low.

As the years have gone by, I leave sites from where I started. I found out about AMREN from an ad placed in Horowitz' monthly Heterodoxy. Then I used to follow Sailer and VDARE. This was long ago.
Well it seems like CC and TOO are moving toward Taylor.

I still read LRC, but that's the only one out of my old circle. No interest in Vdare or WND or horowitz' thing. Seldom read AmRen. Never read Salon anymore.
 
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Don't think so, I think she could be part French, never heard she was a jew.

Is the Pope a Catholic

Piper along with his mentor Willis Carto always make certain parts "fit" into their conspiratorial meme. With those guys everything is a conspiracy, I'm not sure if they believe it or not themselves.

One whooper was how Taylor and Weber met in Africa. Piper throws in the caveat that the CIA where active in that region at this time. Hence in a underhand way saying that both Weber and Taylor are CIA, which is nonsense.
Bizarre I have never heard anyone say Piper was a liar. And I have heard many, many people claim Taylor's wife is a jew. Granted, they're mostly the same idiots claiming James Holmes is a jew.

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This is not true, Weber is most certainly not a WN, but a National Socialist. He was News Editor of Dr. Pierce's National Vanguard magazine in the early days.
I didn't know that. Why is Faurisson blasting Weber then?
 
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WN may have a higher percentage of individualist types, but they are certainly willing to support a genuine cause or party or action project. We've proved this time and time again. The whole about our thing is that racial defense can't be done, successfully, individually, because we're under organized collective attack.
Other than a handful of two-bit, militia-type, bubba gun-clubs, I really don't see WN ever having any sort of organized defense force. Maybe after everything completely falls apart and there is an extended period of utter chaos, something like that could be built out of the ashes of this civilization once it is gone; but every last attempt to produce any sort organized WN political body has only resulted in a handful of second and third rate organizations which fell far short of being a force to be reckoned with.
 
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Other than a handful of two-bit, militia-type, bubba gun-clubs, I really don't see WN ever having any sort of organized defense force. Maybe after everything completely falls apart and there is an extended period of utter chaos, something like that could be built out of the ashes of this civilization once it is gone; but every last attempt to produce any sort organized WN political body has only resulted in a handful of second and third rate organizations which fell far short of being a force to be reckoned with.
Better has been done. But the feds have destroyed them all.
 
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I didn't know that. Why is Faurisson blasting Weber then?
That Faurisson article is dynamite, everybody should read it.

He is blasting Weber for cowardice in the face of the revisionist fight. He states Weber is a moral coward, by now stating that the Germans did gas the jews. That Weber being the coward that he is, is running away from the Holohoax towards the Holocaust as fast as he can.
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That Faurisson article is dynamite, everybody should read it.

He is blasting Weber for cowardice in the face of the revisionist fight. He states Weber is a moral coward, by now stating that the Germans did gas the jews. That Weber being the coward that he is, is running away from the Holohoax towards the Holocaust as fast as he can.
Why would Weber do that after all these years?
 
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Why would Weber do that after all these years?
That's the 1,000 dollar question Alex, I don't know. Weber is very close to David Irving, thus Irving gave Weber the 'heads up' and what his Himmler book will have in it. The main point of the book will be the "gassed 3.5 Million jews". Weber is jumping on Irving's coattails, why I have no idea.
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This is what I was told -

MacDonald, Taylor, Weber, the American Third Position guys (Merlin Miller) and Johnson meet in California every few months or so to plan strategy, socialize, etc.

MacDonald and Johnson choose to associate and form strategy with Weber and Taylor, one a pro-Semitic traitor to whites and the other a traitor to Revisionists.

Taylor's danger to our people and this movement has been covered here very well, but Weber's backstabbing and destruction of the IHR is covered on CODOH forums, or by Michael Collins Piper, or you can ask Fritz Berg about it (of nazigassings.com).

The guy who told me about these meetings is a white guy who attended at least one of these California get-togethers. He has an asian wife...

Whites with asian wives, a philo-semite, and a guy who destroyed the upward momentum of the largest American revisionist organization are all part of this California based "elite" which is telling us not to talk about the gas chamber and "gas van" lies known as "The Holocaust". This is the "New Right" strategy for success?

Mark Weber took a successful organization, castrated it, and ran it into the ground.

I think if you would ask Johnson about this, he would admit he's been to these get-togethers with Weber and Taylor. It's obvious. He quotes Mark Weber as a source to back up his point of view. "First, as Mark Weber has pointed out..."

VNN is one of the few places for the younger generation to turn to which tells the whole truth -

Christianity is bullshit, "The Holocaust" is a hoax in the same Semitic tradition.

I was listening to Alex on the Carolyn Yeager show so in some sense my response to Johnson was inspired by his appearance.

Look at the young Ron Paul kids Linder referenced. These are the kinds of people we should go after, and tell them that Noah's Ark, Santa, Jesus, and The Holocaust are myths, racial differences are real.

Every white person we are able to reach and un-brainwash will become our base - for life. Not a bunch of Christians who watch the Hitlery Channel and have asian wives but really don't like blacks.

Look at how popular Alex Jones is, who reaches out to young people looking for "the truth" but instead absorb his misdirections?

This is the documentary video I made -


This small segment, cut out of the documentary by a viewer and re-uploaded, has gotten over 100,000 hits.


Sure, it's crude - a large part of it was made while I was living in my car (it's impossible to get decent employment as a hate / thought criminal). But I take their Holocaust weapon and turn it back on them.

I view Johnson's article as a direct reaction to the small gains deniers have made recently, mostly reaching young minds - without Weber - doing things such as creating documentaries, http://onethirdoftheholocaust.com and suing Jews such as diamondshitter Zisblatt and even Spielberg.

Another guy who posts on the comments to Johnson's article - ZionCrimeFactory, is a very talented video editor whose videos have been seen tens of thousands of times. If Johnson had any idea what he was doing he would reach out to this talented segment of the WN community instead of push them away. But this is all by Weber / Taylor's design as infiltrators.

On another note, I was also contacted for the Zoomer Media piece Linder was interviewed for, but turned it down. I've recently conducted an interview via email that will be published in a major publication.

My website is holocaustdenier.com.
 
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This is what I was told -

MacDonald, Taylor, Weber, the American Third Position guys (Merlin Miller) and Johnson meet in California every few months or so to plan strategy, socialize, etc.

MacDonald and Johnson choose to associate and form strategy with Weber and Taylor, one a pro-Semitic traitor to whites and the other a traitor to Revisionists.

Taylor's danger to our people and this movement has been covered here very well, but Weber's backstabbing and destruction of the IHR is covered on CODOH forums, or by Michael Collins Piper, or you can ask Fritz Berg about it (of nazigassings.com).

The guy who told me about these meetings is a white guy who attended at least one of these California get-togethers. He has an asian wife...

Whites with asian wives, a philo-semite, and a guy who destroyed the upward momentum of the largest American revisionist organization are all part of this California based "elite" which is telling us not to talk about the gas chamber and "gas van" lies known as "The Holocaust". This is the "New Right" strategy for success?

Mark Weber took a successful organization, castrated it, and ran it into the ground.

I think if you would ask Johnson about this, he would admit he's been to these get-togethers with Weber and Taylor. It's obvious. He quotes Mark Weber as a source to back up his point of view. "First, as Mark Weber has pointed out..."

VNN is one of the few places for the younger generation to turn to which tells the whole truth -

Christianity is bullshit, "The Holocaust" is a hoax in the same Semitic tradition.

I was listening to Alex on the Carolyn Yeager show so in some sense my response to Johnson was inspired by his appearance.

Look at the young Ron Paul kids Linder referenced. These are the kinds of people we should go after, and tell them that Noah's Ark, Santa, Jesus, and The Holocaust are myths, racial differences are real.

Every white person we are able to reach and un-brainwash will become our base - for life. Not a bunch of Christians who watch the Hitlery Channel and have asian wives but really don't like blacks.

Look at how popular Alex Jones is, who reaches out to young people looking for "the truth" but instead absorb his misdirections?

This is the documentary video I made -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

This small segment, cut out of the documentary by a viewer and re-uploaded, has gotten over 100,000 hits.

Holohoax Survivors who Tell the Truth - YouTube

Sure, it's crude - a large part of it was made while I was living in my car (it's impossible to get decent employment as a hate / thought criminal). But I take their Holocaust weapon and turn it back on them.

I view Johnson's article as a direct reaction to the small gains deniers have made recently, mostly reaching young minds - without Weber - doing things such as creating documentaries, http://onethirdoftheholocaust.com and suing Jews such as diamondshitter Zisblatt and even Spielberg.

Another guy who posts on the comments to Johnson's article - ZionCrimeFactory, is a very talented video editor whose videos have been seen tens of thousands of times. If Johnson had any idea what he was doing he would reach out to this talented segment of the WN community instead of push them away. But this is all by Weber / Taylor's design as infiltrators.

On another note, I was also contacted for the Zoomer Media piece Linder was interviewed for, but turned it down. I've recently conducted an interview via email that will be published in a major publication.

My website is holocaustdenier.com.
These are excellent video compilations, thank you for sharing them. I wish we could get the public to see more of these.
 
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If the CIA were to infiltrate WN groups, I think they would quickly realise that they don't have much to worry about, especially compared to Islamic groups here in America.
Any honest and competent operative would look the devil right in the face and although helpless to do anything about it acknowledge the Jew's espionage is the number one threat to this country's integrity , especially when compared to other groups. If the bullshit continues at the current pace, more Whites start getting the picture, you better believe they get worried. What's with the s in 'realise', is that how it's spelled in Alabama?

And about confronting the Holocaust propaganda ,Alex spells it out very concisely as to why 'Let's leave well enough alone. Who cares? Kids don't listen to it anyway" argument doesn't cut it.

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These people don't name the jew. They hire the jew, promote the jew, and let rabbis be keynote speakers. They cover up for the jew and support the HolyHoax. Absolutely less than worthless. If these gutless, career-seeking, money-grubbing "respectable" people were financed fronts to hurt White Nationalism it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
 
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Well it seems like CC and TOO are moving toward Taylor.
And so is CODOH.

Here is another opinion about how the censors at CODOH are moving toward the same direction (This from a "berty48" on the "skeptics" society forum):

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Many people don't realise that CODOH is a site to combat real revisionism by presenting a watered down, luke warm, Gerber style revisionism that resembles real revisionism as much as Gerbers Baby Food style pureed carrots duplicates a hard, fiberous root vegetable. Many of the leaders of CODOH are on the Zionist payroll and half the revisionist posters are sock puppets of passionate believers including those employed by USHMM...

We know that Hoaxters run CODOH because revisionists are routinely harrassed and their posts deleted. Real revisionists are fearless, honest and unafraid of ideas or arguments, so if someone is deleting posts and banning posters, one must assume that the scoundrel is either an outright Zionist stooge or a faux revisionist controlled by nefarious, secret cabalists...
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=18034

And here is Carolyn Yeager's response to being banned by the CODOH censors:

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It is supposed to be a forum for debate -- Open Debate on the Holocaust -- but if you show any SPIRIT in your debating -- of which I have a goodly share (it is the secret of my sticking power and success as a revisionist) -- it is seen as inappropriate and your post will be removed and you will be given a public lecture by the Moderator about your bad behavior... you're under personal attack right from the git-go, and so many posts that you carefully compose are simply deleted...
http://carolynyeager.net/being-banned-codoh-forum-again
 
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