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Old March 18th, 2014 #1
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DiLorenzo, the foremost Lincoln scholar, responds to jew jon "stewart's" jewing of Andrew Napolitano on The Daily Show

 
Old March 20th, 2014 #2
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750,000 – 850,000 Dead White People Was A GOOD Thing
Thomas DiLorenzo

That is the essential argument made by Jon Stewart and his cast of lying Lincolnites during their “Comedy Central” hatchet job on Judge Napolitano last week. They made this point in response to the fact that: 1) All other nations (i.e., British, Spanish, French, Danes, Dutch, Swedes, the Northern states of the U.S.) ended slavery peacefully in the nineteenth century. There were no “wars of emancipation” in New England, New York, or Illinois. So as to not even consider the possibility that America could have done the same in the 1860s, Stewart and his cast of liars and deceivers were making the point that since many slaves died during the transatlantic slave trade, the “Civil War” deaths were all justified. So shut up already! was their point. Two wrongs make a right after all. They deserved it.

This is a version of Lincoln’s Second Inaugural Address argument that: 1) Although he personally was not a Christian, he could read the mind of God; and 2) God’s mind told him that the war just “came” (Abe claimed to have nothing to do with it), and was God’s punishment of all Americans, North and South, for the sin of slavery. Argue with this theory and you are arguing with God. So shut up already! (Abe never attempted to explain why God would not have also punished the British, Spanish, French, etc. who were responsible for bringing 95% of all the slaves to the Western Hemisphere).

This theory was pounded into the heads of Boobus Americanus with the worst song ever written that referred to the hundreds of thousands of dead bodies, and more than double that number maimed for life; the bombing and burning of entire cities populated by civilians; the looting, plundering and raping ways of Sherman’s army; and worse, as “the glory of the coming of the Lord.”
 
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So what did "Stewart" do? Did he have Napolitano on and ambush him with the Cultural Marxist "historians", or did he just do his mock-shtick with their help?

That kike punk Liebowitz, Foner, and all the other jewscum gatekeeping & lying about OUR history have got to be deposed....
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That kike punk Liebowitz, Foner, and all the other jewscum gatekeeping & lying about OUR history have got to be deposed....
by "deposed" I'm assuming you mean, "sewn into a large burlap sack along with a rabid alley-cat and dropped from a bridge into a freezing cold river",-yes?
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by "deposed" I'm assuming you mean, "sewn into a large burlap sack along with a rabid alley-cat and dropped from a bridge into a freezing cold river",-yes?
"You are correct, sir! HAW HAW HAW!", as Ed McMahon would say.
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Old March 24th, 2014 #6
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The Lincoln Cult on Display: How Eric Foner, Manisha Sinha, and James Oakes Failed to Defame Judge Napolitano
By Thomas DiLorenzo
March 24, 2014

Most readers of LewRockwell.com are probably familiar with how television clown Jon Stewart attempted to smear Judge Andrew Napolitano on his Comedy Central “Daily Show” a couple of weeks ago by having a panel of academic “experts” shout “That’s not true!” or “Didn’t happen!” to some of the things Judge Napolitano said in a (five-against-one) debate over Lincoln and his legacy. Here is the main claim by the judge that outraged the panel of “experts” (Eric Foner of Columbia, Manisha Sinha of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and James Oakes of City College of New York): Lincoln should have busied himself with “abolishing the Fugitive Slave Act, said the judge, “which Lincoln enforced and his judges enforced and his federal marshals enforced.”

Foner: “That’s not true! Didn’t happen!”

Sinha: “That’s not true! Absolutely not!”

Oakes: “it’s not true! Didn’t happen!”

In addition, a black woman with a fake Abe Lincoln beard and stove pipe hat who Stewart addressed as “President Lincoln” chimed in about the alleged falsity of the judge’s claim, as did the wise-cracking Stewart.

It is undeniable that Judge Napolitano was right, and Foner, Sinha, Oakes, Stewart, and “President Lincoln” either hadn’t the foggiest idea of what they were talking about, or they were lying. It’s hard to believe that academics like Foner and Oakes, who have been teaching graduate-level courses on the “Civil War” for decades, were unaware of the fact that Lincoln did in fact enforce the Fugitive Slave Act during his presidency, just as Judge Napolitano said.

The authoritative academic source on enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 during the Lincoln administration
Slave Catchers: Enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Law Slave Catchers: Enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Law
, by Stanley W. Campbell (Chapel Hill, NC: University of North Carolina Press, 1968/2011). The book contains numerous examples, documented with official government documents, of runaway slaves being returned to their “owners” by federal judges and marshals during the Lincoln regime, just as the judge said. For example in one passage we learn that:

A fugitive slave named Harris, his wife, and two children were apprehended in Chicago on April 3 [1861] and sent to Springfield [Lincoln’s home town] for a hearing before a United States commissioner. Harris was owned by one man, his wife and children by another, both residents of St. Louis County, Missouri. After the hearing, the slaves were remanded to their owners and quietly returned to Missouri (p 188).

Just this one example is sufficient to prove Judge Napolitano’s claim to be correct, and Stewart’s “experts” wrong. But there is much more to the story. The Fugitive Slave Act was being so vigorously enforced by the Lincoln administration, writes Professor Campbell, that there was “a veritable stream of fugitive slaves headed for the Canadian border. On April 8 [1861], 106 fugitive slaves were counted boarding the Michigan Southern and Northern Indiana Railroad. Their destination was Canada and freedom from arrest” (p. 188).

Campbell points out that “In his [first] inaugural address, president Lincoln once again disclaimed any intention of interfering with slavery in the states . . . nor had his views about the Fugitive Slave Law changed” (p. 189). Indeed they had not. Professor Campbell quotes an August 27, 1858 speech by Lincoln in which he said, “I have never hesitated to say, and I do not now hesitate to say, that I think, under the Constitution of the United States, the people of Southern States are entitled to a Congressional Fugitive Slave Law” (p 189).

On May 27, 1861 a number of runaway slaves appeared within the military command of Union Army General Benjamin Butler, who offered the opinion that the Fugitive Slave Law did not apply there since the South was “a foreign country,” something that Lincoln himself never, ever, maintained. Lincoln had his secretary of war Simon Cameron, send Butler a letter of rebuke in which he was ordered NOT to “prevent the voluntary return of any fugitive to the service from which he may have escaped” (p. 190).

When General John C. Fremont instituted martial law in Missouri on August 30, 1861 and declared all the slaves there to be freed, “Lincoln overruled the proclamation” and “removed Fremont from his command at St. Louis on November 2, 1861” (p. 191). Some seven months later, Lincoln’s attorney general, Edward Bates, issued instructions that “It is the President’s constitutional duty to ‘take care that the laws be faithfully executed.’ This means all laws” (p. 192). He was referring exclusively to the Fugitive Slave Law.

The Fugitive Slave Act was as vigorously enforced in Washington, D.C. Lincoln’s wartime home town, as well as it was in Springfield, Illinois, his peacetime home town during his administration. As Professor Campbell further writes:

In May, 1862, the Superior Court of the District of Columbia ruled that the Fugitive Slave Law was as applicable to the District of Columbia as it was to any of the states. The docket of the court for 1862 listed the claims of twenty-eight different slave owners for 101 runaway slaves. In the two months following the courts decisions, 26 fugitive slaves were returned to their owners from the fugitive slave tribunal in the nation’s capital (p. 193).
Runaway slaves were still being sent back to their “owners” by Lincoln’s judges and marshals after the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1863. “On June 12, for example, 3 women and 4 children were arrested as fugitive slaves and taken before the United States Commissioner Walter S. Coxe, in Washington. After a hearing they were remanded to the claimant from Prince Georges County, Maryland, and on June 18, Commissioner Coxe remanded 2 fugitive slaves to claimants from the same county in Maryland” (p 193).

When Brigadier General T.W. Tuttle wrote to Chicago Mayor Sherman claiming to have “a large number” of “contraband negroes” and asking the mayor if he could find “work” for them, the mayor “seemed horrified at such a suggestion” and wrote back that since the Illinois Constitution of 1848 made it illegal for black people to emigrate into the state, “Your proposition to send negroes to Chicago to work would be in violation of the laws of this State” (p. 193, emphasis in original).

Governor John Albion of Massachusetts did the exact same thing when confronted with a similar situation on October 30, 1862. The governor “promptly refused to permit them to come” into his state, writes Campbell (p. 194).

We owe a debt of gratitude to Jon Stewart for using his television show to allow us an opportunity to publicly “out” these prominent academic Lincoln cultists as either the gross incompetents or the professional deceivers and court historians that they obviously are.
 
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We owe a debt of gratitude to Jon Stewart for using his television show to allow us an opportunity to publicly “out” these prominent academic Lincoln cultists as either the gross incompetents or the professional deceivers and court historians that they obviously are.
I hope DiLorenzo doesn't imagine that Liebowitz' hipster audience saw his ambush of Napolitano with fraud "historians" as anything but a defeat for the judge. Kikes like "Stewart" & Foner know full well that several carefully-chosen Social Marxist "experts" and a dash of mocking ass-clownery thrown in for good measure will outweigh one man armed only with the truth in the minds of kwalege-edjewcated punks who imagine they're vastly smarter, better informed & worldly-wise than they'll ever be.
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Ignoring the Obvious (Again)
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I am often asked how a monstrous tyrant who suffered from several mental illnesses went from being America’s most reviled president in all of history to our “most beloved president.” I speak of course of Abe Lincoln, who was indeed the most hated and reviled of all presidents during his own lifetime, as documented by historian Larry Tagg in The Unpopular Mr. Lincoln: America’s Most Reviled President. (As for Lincoln’s mental illness and instability, see Joshua Shenk, Lincoln’s Melancholy).

Part of the answer to this question is that the template for Lincoln biographies was written many decades ago by Lincoln’s two White House secretaries, John Hay and John Nicolay, with the close supervision and censorship of Lincoln’s son Robert. Presidential “biographies” written by White House press secretaries (a.k.a. Official Executive Branch Propagandists) and the presidents’ children are never taken very seriously by serious people, but with Lincoln it is an exception.

So now comes a book celebrating how the Lincoln myth was invented by Nicolay and Hay in an equally gushing and hagiographic book by one Joshua Zietz entitled Lincoln’s Boys. The essence of the book is that it is an attempt to lionize Nicolay and Hay for a job well done in pulling the wool over the American public’s eyes about the most hated president in their history. He was hated by people who actually knew him or knew of him during his time. It is only future generations of Boobus Americanus, as H.L. Mencken called them, who came to revere Dishonest Abe. Indeed, this is the purpose of the entire Lincoln cult — to always keep The Big Lie fresh in the minds of rationally-ignorant Americans. For the Lincoln myth is the ideological cornerstone of the American state which supposedly sanctifies anything and everything the state does, just as Robert Penn Warren described in his 1961 book, The Legacy of the Civil War.

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So now comes a book celebrating how the Lincoln myth was invented by Nicolay and Hay in an equally gushing and hagiographic book by one Joshua Zietz entitled Lincoln’s Boys.
As ever, an ehuding Zeitz blocking & distorting the goyeem's view of their own history...

Kikes & their Cultural Marxist dupes lionize Lincum because he usurped fed power to abolish the Founders' America - and especially because he crushed Southerners. He's the great centralizing example they want presidents & all fed political whores to follow.
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