Iranians banging down the door?

[Aquila Aquilonis]

Originally Posted by Shapur

Also who read the old works of ancient poets and historicans know that both the Greeks and the Romans "which are called from the European! Union as the base of the European nation" are from serval IRANIAN SPEAKING tribes.

Where did you get this nonsense from? Greeks and Romans had nothing to do with Iranians.

Originally Posted by Aquila Aquilonis

Where did you get this nonsense from? Greeks and Romans had nothing to do with Iranians.

Sure they had nothing to do with Iranians... LOL!
Btw the Iranians, Greeks and Romans are more related as north Europeans with south Europeans. Laughable...

[Aquila Aquilonis]

Originally Posted by Shapur

Sure they had nothing to do with Iranians... LOL!
Btw the Iranians, Greeks and Romans are more related as north Europeans with south Europeans. Laughable...

I would just like to know what old poets and historians you meant.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by ArmSla

Non-mixed Iranians are white. They have generally dark hair and brown eyes but there are some who are even blond.

The problem with Iran is that there is way too much Turkic and semitic infiltration.

There are two major ethnic groups in Iran and they are Persians and Azeri Turks. Persians are Aryans. Azeri Turks are not Aryans. My blog will explain the difference. Persians and afghans have the same origin and both are Aryans.

I am not allowed to post on Stormfront or Pan Aryan Forum. Both of those forums are pro-Azeri Turks.

Slide show on Persians and Azeri Turks and afghans.

Persians
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2036343...16581341/show/

Azeri Turks
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2036343...16588250/show/

Afghan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2036343...16574438/show/


More on Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com/

Also See a critique of American white nationalist views on Iran
http://whitenationalistviews.blogspot.com/

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Abzug Hoffman

Multiracial afghan child. Cute!

This is not a multi racial afghan child. This is a Pashtun Afghan.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Anima Eternae

Now Vivavodio, the question is: Would you accept a half-Persian half-European as white?


Only famous one I know of...





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This is a fake picture of Catherine Bell. This is the real Catherine Bell. She is Persian-British and speak fluent persian.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Vivaodio

This is the typical Persian Phenotype. I don't care what anyone says, despite popular myths there are few to none Southern Euros who even remotely resemble these types.
One distinctive thing about Persians is that they tend to have thick eyebrows and soot-black eyes, which very very few Europeans have.

No. That is Persian Hollywood style phenotype. What you are describing is an Azeri Turk with connected eyebrows.

See Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com

[oslonor]

[quote=Vivaodio]

Originally Posted by Velademir

MultiRacial? bewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bonehead she looks typical Irano-Afghan to me!


Keep Dreaming nigger, that's your ilk not mine, And why did you post a small picture to obscure her NW features?








BUAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!! Have a look at them beady BLACK nigger eyes. You're only making yourself look stupid here nigger. You should've quit after your first post.




One light semite against a group of fecal colored ones, what's your point?

These pictures are altered. The nose does not change in that age. Jews are famous for fakes.

Originally Posted by oslonor

No. That is Persian Hollywood style phenotype. What you are describing is an Azeri Turk with connected eyebrows.

See Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com

the vast majority of iranians are partial descendants of the arabs through 'arabization' from the male genetic line. the original speakers of farsi (parsi) may have been caucasian aryans similar to the georgians or armenians, getting killed off as we speak in another thread.

some 'armos' seem to have gotten a little mixed up with the turks while living under turkish occupation and in surrounding countries.

armenians & georgians are pretty much white. of course, nonathis is going to help us here in the u.s.

if i'm wrong respond with proof! :box:

rudi bhaktiar on cnn isn't 'white' and neither is bell, though close.

the pashtun child is an aryan mongoloid cross. this is an interesting area since the entire nation of latvia and hungary are also. but the mix is less than 2% thank god and so europe was saved

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by meerschaum

the vast majority of iranians are partial descendants of the arabs through 'arabization' from the male genetic line. the original speakers of farsi (parsi) may have been similar to the georgians or armenians, getting killed off as we speak in another thread.

the 'armos' seem to have gotten a little mixed up with the turks while living under turkish occupation and in surrounding countries.

georgians are pretty much white. of course, nonathis is going to help us here in the us.

if i'm wrong respond with proof! :box:

rudi bhaktiar on cnn isn't 'white' and neither is bell, though close.

the pashtun child is an aryan mongoloid cross. this is an interesting area since the entire nation of latvia and hungary are also. but the mix is less than 2% thank god and so europe was saved

I know Iran and Afghanistan very well I can tell you most of what you say is nonsense. Arabs have gene marker Haplogroup EU10. Iranians do not have EU10. So that was the end of discussion on Arabs mixed with Iranians. Pashtoons in Afghanistan are not mixed with anybody. That child is a pashtoon child. Rud Bakhtiar is not white. She is Aryan. I leave the concept of white for Europeans.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Anima Eternae

Uhm, Iranian is simply a nationality. Persian is the ethnicity. There are Azeri, Arabs, and Turks who are Iranian, as well.


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/ir.html

Look at the ethnicity sheet. Only 51% of Iran is Persian, and I believe the real numbers are quite lower.


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Yes. you are very correct. Persians are around %20-25 of population. Azeris are %35-45 of the population. CIA figures are wrong.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Shapur

This CIA stuff is bullshit. This seperation of Iranians in different tribes is also bullshit. The difference between a Persian and a Kurd is that the Kurds live in the west and the Persians in the south and that both have two different tribe names. The rest is simmilar. They are one! The CIA statics are very strange.
I would guess Iran have 35% Persians but this is not imporant.
95% of Iranians are of Iranian stock this is important. Btw I am of Kurdish stock.

No. Shapur you are wrong:
They are two different ethnic groups. Kurds are Iranians but not Persians. The separation of Iranians into different tribes is the only way to protect their ethnic rights. Azeri turks talk about the "Iranian Race" precisely to violate the ethnic rights of all minorities.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Kamangir42

I will post some pictures of Iranians. None are models because I don't think they are necessarily representative of the population.



Mohammad Khatami (Iranian President)



Khatami meeting Pakistani President Musharraf



Khatami meeting Indian Foreign Minister Singh





Supreme Guide Ayatollah Ali Khamenei



Shah Mohammad Reza I Pahlavi



Empress Farah and Princess Leila





Shirin Ebadi









Takavaran (Iranian Naval Commandos)





Iranian Army



Iranian Air Force officers

Some more Iranians...








And, finally, the deserts of Iran where the "sand niggers" hang out...

Most of your pictures are Azeri Turks. Azeri Turks Khatami, Shah's family is half persian half Azeri Turk, Shirin Ebadi Azeri Turk and the rest such as Iran's fotboll team.

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by Kamangir42

In Iran, nobody describes themselves as Persian. Persian basically means Iranian proper (Iranian stock, Farsi language) or Great Iranian in the sense that proper Russians used to be described as Great Russians while related peoples like the Belarussians were called White Russians.

There are several groups which the Persians would consider as close (but not identical) brethren. These include the Gilaki, Mazandarani and Kords. Sometimes the Lor and Bakhtiari are also considered as brethren but not as close I don't think (they are often viewed with suspicion as they are tribesmen and historical events). There is a recognition that Baluchis are related to Persians but they are viewed with suspicion because they have probably mixed somewhat with non-Iranian people.

The Arabs and Turkmen are definitely not regarded as brethren of the Persians (but these people are probably still largely Iranian though with significant admixture). The Azaris are more complicated. Some view them as brethren; others do not. IMO they are Persians with slight Oghuz Turk admixture (perhaps on the order of 5-10%, say). We're looking at a classical Turkish elite imposing its dominance on a Persian populace I think in Azarbaijan.

As for the accuracy of the CIA figures, note that they have a vested interest in making the Persians look as weak as possible (they fund opposition groups like SANAM which seeks Azari independence). So perhaps the figures are too low even. Also, if the claims of the minorities in Iran were taken into account Persians wouldn't even make up 5% of the population. So you have to take that with a pinch of salt. Also, places like Gilan can maintain highly concentrated populations whereas the mountainous areas are populated less sparsely.

If I were pushed to come up (using the CIA figures) with the proportion of true Iranians, or Aryans if you want to call it that, I would calculate as follows. At the least, being very strict, I would say that the Persians (51%), Gilakis and Mazandaranis (8) and Kords (7%) were Aryan (66%). Perhaps 5% are not pure leaving 61%. A medium estimate, probably followed by most Persians, would include the Lors and Bakhtiari (5%) and this would leave (taking out the unpure) the Aryan population at about 66%. Now if you were to include the Azari who have no Turkic admixture (22%) this would come to 90%. Some Baluchis may be pure Iranian too but their numbers are so small that it would not change the figure much.

In short, I would say that at least 60% of Iranians are of pure Iranian stock but this may range as high as 90%.

You are a Pan-Azeri , Pan-turk. You are promoting the Azeri Turk "Iranian race" invented by the Azeri Turk regime in Tehran.

See this:
Are there Persians in Iran?
http://panturanianinpersia.blogspot.com/

The Policy of Turkification of Iran
http://azeriturks.blogspot.com/

Originally Posted by oslonor

I know Iran and Afghanistan very well I can tell you most of what you say is nonsense. Arabs have gene marker Haplogroup EU10. Iranians do not have EU10. So that was the end of discussion on Arabs mixed with Iranians. Pashtoons in Afghanistan are not mixed with anybody. That child is a pashtoon child. Rud Bakhtiar is not white. She is Aryan. I leave the concept of white for Europeans.

THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU SAID AT THE ARMENIAN FORUM, NOW IS IT OSLONOR? REMEMBER, I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS STUFF.

Originally Posted by oslonor

You're a moron. Us Persians don't need white people like you telling us who we are. We KNOW who we are. We don't WANT to be white. Europeans are NOT Aryan. You never were, and you never will be. Aryans today are Persian, Afghan, Indian, And Pakistani. And WE ARE NOT WHITE. AND WE ARE PROUD. The only racist person I see here is you, NOT HOLLYWOOD. You seem so ashamed of the fact that your wife is not white, that you will try anything in your power to get her to be white. NEWSFLASH: The myth that Germans are Aryan has been proven false COUNTLESS times. There is NO Indo-European race. The Aryan race was INDO-IRANIAN.

Persians and Iranians don't like Europeans, we don't care about Europeans, our culture is completely different than Europeans. WE ARE NOT LIKE YOU. GIVE IT A REST.

YES, PERSIANS DO LOOK VASTLY DIFFERENT. Even Dariush, the Shah of Iran had bushy, curly, black hair, and light brown skin, with a hooked nose. You're a d**n idiot.

ARYANS ARE NOT EUROPEAN, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR STUPID SKULL.

When will white people stop trying to be Iranian?

And I hope you know that those pictures you posted are mostly of Iranian girls who have had nose jobs, tatooted their eyebrows, and dyed their hair. It's very popular to do those things in Iran, if you knew anything about Iran, you would know that. Get a life.

It's very easy to go through a bunch of pictures of a group of people and pick out 5 that look "white" and then post them and come to a conclusion.

you're an idiot.

Indo-European is a lie.

A lot of Iranians have Arab blood. Arabs and Iranians have been in contact with eachother for thousands of years, it's natural.

LINK
http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=6836

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by meerschaum

THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU SAID AT THE ARMENIAN FORUM, NOW IS IT OSLONOR? REMEMBER, I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS STUFF.



LINK
http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=6836

This is an Azeri Opinion on Persians. And you have not quaoted my reply to it: This was my reply:

Oslonor: You are an Azeri Turk and you make up all this to be able to hide yourself behind the label of Persian. Sorry those pictures are the picutres of live Persians. Azeris look different from Persians.

You can read more about that here:

Comments by Visitors
http://commentsbyvisitors.blogspot.com/

Armenian Genocide Forum
http://www.armeniangenocide.com/foru...ead.php?t=1553

From your dishonesty in quoting me, I conclude that you are an Azeri Turk. Thanks for the information.

i couldn't tell if that was a quote or if you had written it. still i'm not entirely convinced though surprised at your restraint.

~~sorry~~

[oslonor]

Originally Posted by meerschaum

i couldn't tell if that was a quote or if you had written it. still i'm not entirely convinced though surprised at your restraint.

~~sorry~~

What are you not convinced of?